EGM scores NG:Sigma 8.7!! (9,9,8) flop?

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#1 abusedbunny
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http://www.gamestats.com/objects/856/856529/

no site showing the review, just scores posted.

Comments?

 

and here are some videos from the game

http://media.www.gamestats.com/media/856/856529/vids_1.html

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#2 tree-branch
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flop.
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#3 alecsuba
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If I remember right. the 3rd score is the official 1up score. so 1up rated it an 8

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#4 Dreams-Visions
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dayum.  maybe it'll be closer than expected.  Cows: we were trying to tell you this game is 85% Ninja Gaiden Black...and that the score might reflect that reality.  Batton down teh hatches!
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#5 hazuki87
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Although I trust EGM reviews more than GameSpot they dont count here and are often quite different.
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#6 Medjai
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I think most rational people were predicting high AA 8.7-8.9 so this review falls right in line there...87% is expected but if it gets that here o happy day for lemmings
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dayum.  maybe it'll be closer than expected.  Cows: we were trying to tell you this game is 85% Ninja Gaiden Black...and that the score might reflect that reality.  Batton down teh hatches!Dreams-Visions
o.O You say that like its a bad thing.
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#8 istreakforfood
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is the 8.7 the offical score or will it change later on? Still a great game. Its woth checking it out. if you a gamer its a definite must to play the game sigma or black.
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#9 HungryLikeAMug
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Great score for a game that, from what i understand, is largely a port of a last gen game?
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#10 Ibacai
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I have the magazine and the scores are not averaged. It's just three reviewers opinions on a game. 2 AAA 1 AA I can definitely see Sigma getting an AA here but that won't stop me from buying a great game.
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#11 deathtrap90
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]dayum. maybe it'll be closer than expected. Cows: we were trying to tell you this game is 85% Ninja Gaiden Black...and that the score might reflect that reality. Batton down teh hatches!killab2oo5
o.O You say that like its a bad thing.

 They think its a whole new game.

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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]dayum. maybe it'll be closer than expected. Cows: we were trying to tell you this game is 85% Ninja Gaiden Black...and that the score might reflect that reality. Batton down teh hatches!deathtrap90

o.O You say that like its a bad thing.

 They think its a whole new game.

I see.You can kinda say its...alittle different,since they added a good bid of gameplay elements.It has a nice chance of getting AAA,even though its about 3 years old.
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#14 Medjai
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I have the magazine and the scores are not averaged. It's just three reviewers opinions on a game. 2 AAA 1 AA I can definitely see Sigma getting an AA here but that won't stop me from buying a great game.Ibacai
and it shouldn't esp if you haven't play the the original or black but I have beat the original atleast 3times and I rent black to see if it was worth the purchase and I beat that too, I didn't end up buying it I was burned out on NG at that point...but the game is fantastic but I am just done with it at this point
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#15 Ibacai
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[QUOTE="Ibacai"]I have the magazine and the scores are not averaged. It's just three reviewers opinions on a game. 2 AAA 1 AA I can definitely see Sigma getting an AA here but that won't stop me from buying a great game.Medjai
and it shouldn't esp if you haven't play the the original or black but I have beat the original atleast 3times and I rent black to see if it was worth the purchase and I beat that too, I didn't end up buying it I was burned out on NG at that point...but the game is fantastic but I am just done with it at this point

Yeah, I can understand how people can be burnt out on NG at the moment. I played the first one and Black but never owned them myself. I think I'm part of the target audience here.
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#16 Mizarus
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lol its so funny how anything below 9 is considered a flop on system wars =p anyway it seems that by sw standards yes it floped
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NG2 is the only NG i want right now, and will be for my 360 soon, and NOT PS3 !!!
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#18 vgmkyle
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Very good score for a third outing.And especially since EGM seems to hate Team Ninja lately....But who cares what EGM thinks?There magazine blows.

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[QUOTE="deathtrap90"]

[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]dayum. maybe it'll be closer than expected. Cows: we were trying to tell you this game is 85% Ninja Gaiden Black...and that the score might reflect that reality. Batton down teh hatches!killab2oo5

o.O You say that like its a bad thing.

They think its a whole new game.

I see.You can kinda say its...alittle different,since they added a good bid of gameplay elements.It has a nice chance of getting AAA,even though its about 3 years old.

I hyped AAA. 

but in my hype post in the official thread, I had reservations because it's essentially the same game with a new coat of paint, a few new enemies, a few new weapons and some remixed levels (along with a couple new).  depending on how the reviewers look at those facts, it would dictate whether the game is considered AA or AAA. 

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#20 MikeE21286
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What's the hype on this one (was there an official thread).  It's gotta be like high AA
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#21 Dreams-Visions
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What's the hype on this one (was there an official thread). It's gotta be like high AAMikeE21286
AAA
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#22 deathtrap90
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What's the hype on this one (was there an official thread). It's gotta be like high AAMikeE21286

 

Its AAA and considerd a port or something,not an exclusive.

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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]What's the hype on this one (was there an official thread). It's gotta be like high AAdeathtrap90

 

Its AAA and considerd a port or something,not an exclusive.

it's considered exclusive.  one thread of fanboys arguing doesn't change that.   

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#24 deathtrap90
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[QUOTE="deathtrap90"]

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]What's the hype on this one (was there an official thread). It's gotta be like high AADreams-Visions

 

Its AAA and considerd a port or something,not an exclusive.

it's considered exclusive. one thread of fanboys arguing doesn't change that.

Look at the official sticky.The not near the end in the 1st post. 

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It's a last gen port no matter what you people want to call it.  That's a good score for a last gen port.
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#26 MikeE21286
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]What's the hype on this one (was there an official thread). It's gotta be like high AADreams-Visions
AAA

OUch.....AAA???....looks like some people got too excited.  I don't see anyway this game gets AAA. 

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[QUOTE="deathtrap90"]

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]What's the hype on this one (was there an official thread). It's gotta be like high AADreams-Visions

Its AAA and considerd a port or something,not an exclusive.

it's considered exclusive. one thread of fanboys arguing doesn't change that.

Apparently it's still considered a port according to Casey and a bunch of SW vocals. Doesn't matter to me though.
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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="deathtrap90"]

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]What's the hype on this one (was there an official thread). It's gotta be like high AAIbacai

 

Its AAA and considerd a port or something,not an exclusive.

it's considered exclusive. one thread of fanboys arguing doesn't change that.

Apparently it's still considered a port according to Casey and a bunch of SW vocals. Doesn't matter to me though.

 

Only cows say otherwise, in desperation for the ps3 to get an exclusive aaa 

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#29 Thrice_III
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I predicted 8.6 so it is where I expected it.

Sounds like the game is great, as expected, just has a few technical problems that hurt the score. 

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dayum.  maybe it'll be closer than expected.  Cows: we were trying to tell you this game is 85% Ninja Gaiden Black...and that the score might reflect that reality.  Batton down teh hatches!Dreams-Visions
uh-oh...

 

oh God....:o

 

 

 

Brace for teh impact fellow Bovine!!

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]What's the hype on this one (was there an official thread). It's gotta be like high AAMikeE21286

AAA

OUch.....AAA???....looks like some people got too excited.  I don't see anyway this game gets AAA. 

-raises a guilty hand- Yeah. That's me. The game has always been AAA to me. But...ehhhhh. I think the game is going to officaly flop here now. :lol: Oh well.

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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="deathtrap90"]

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]What's the hype on this one (was there an official thread). It's gotta be like high AAIbacai

 

Its AAA and considerd a port or something,not an exclusive.

it's considered exclusive. one thread of fanboys arguing doesn't change that.

Apparently it's still considered a port according to Casey and a bunch of SW vocals. Doesn't matter to me though.

I think Dream said it best it an 85% port :)

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#33 Phanrang
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Haha another flop!
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#34 Medjai
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="MikeE21286"]What's the hype on this one (was there an official thread). It's gotta be like high AAhotdaisy18

AAA

OUch.....AAA???....looks like some people got too excited.  I don't see anyway this game gets AAA. 

-raises a guilty hand- Yeah. That's me. The game has always been AAA to me. But...ehhhhh. I think the game is going to officaly flop here now. :lol: Oh well.

I don't think there is any sane person who does not think its a AAA title...the question is did they do enough to warrant another AAA score 3 years later? time will tell...but NG is a great game

I wouldn't worry about getting owned either there will be some clamouring but I think the ownage when Warhawk and Lair come out will be more severe although the more I am seeing Lair lately the more I am thinking it has a chance to score well...

I don't know why people would try to claim ownage with NG its a great game reguardless

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#35 squallff8_fan
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flop.tree-branch

Yeah 2 AAA and 1 AA and its a flop, lol. :P

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#36 readingfc_1
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I don't think it will do any better here at gamespot!
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#37 pundog
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I don't know why people would hype Sigma AAA, it'll be a great game and all but I played it 3 years ago. Sure there are a couple of new features but its a pretty big stretch for GS to give a 3 year old port AAA.

And anyone who thinks Sigma is exclusive is stupid, by that logic Virtua Tennis 3 is 360 exclusive because it has online multiplayer and the PS3 version doesn't. Just because the game has some new content doesn't make it a new game.

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#38 kansasdude2009
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it got the same score as RE:Wii Edition, now thats funny. I suppose both are ports, but Sigma is more of a re-make, so I thought it would get the higher scores.
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#40 Dahaka-UK
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You people and your flops :| So every game under AAA is a bad game in other words... under AAA=FLOP=BAD GAME in the minds of fanboys...  Sooo.... Dead rising, Lost planet, Splinter Cell DA, PGR3, Kameo, C&C3, Saints Row, Ghost Recon AWF2, Crackdown, Call of Duty 3, Viva Pinata, Need for speed carbon, hitman blood money, F.E.A.R, Dead or Alive 3 and alot more are all FLOPS... So basically XBOX 360 is riddled with FLOPTASTIC games like the Wii.
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#41 pundog
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You people and your flops :| So every game under AAA is a bad game in other words... Dahaka-UK
No every game that scores lower than it is hyped is a flop. Sigma is hyped AAA, according to this it is on track to score AA, therefore: flop, or at least probable flop. Learn the rules before posting.
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NG2 is the only NG i want right now, and will be for my 360 soon, and NOT PS3 !!!greg_splicer

When did they announce it for 360? And where does it say it will not be on PS3? and it will only be on YOUR 360 you say? so its a greg_splicer exclusive?

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[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]You people and your flops :| So every game under AAA is a bad game in other words... pundog
No every game that scores lower than it is hyped is a flop. Sigma is hyped AAA, according to this it is on track to score AA, therefore: flop, or at least probable flop. Learn the rules before posting.

 

Oh so it works like this... One cow makes a thread of how sigma is the best game ever and it's going to get an AAA for sure!.. So a bunch of lemmings come a long and say how it's the worst game ever because it isnt on there system... Then the score finally arrives.. and lemmings are like ohhh seee I told you!! Ninja gaidden the worst flop in history!! Makes sense lol :| I really don't want to go by these "rules".

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#44 Bullets4Brains
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Game informer in Germany scored Sigma 82%, less than Mario strikers which got 83%

they said Sigma had problems with textures, and had the same problems as the Xbox version, whatever that means. There is no way in hell a 3 year old port is getting AAA on Gamespot, this game will flop hard in most reviews. People have played the game on Xbox and moved on.

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#45 Bullets4Brains
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[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]NG2 is the only NG i want right now, and will be for my 360 soon, and NOT PS3 !!!mazdero

When did they announce it for 360? And where does it say it will not be on PS3? and it will only be on YOUR 360 you say? so its a greg_splicer exclusive?

Itagaki has said 360 is his main platform and his next game is the one people are expecting. It doesn't take Inspector Gadget to understand what that means.

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[QUOTE="Dahaka-UK"]You people and your flops :| So every game under AAA is a bad game in other words... pundog
No every game that scores lower than it is hyped is a flop. Sigma is hyped AAA, according to this it is on track to score AA, therefore: flop, or at least probable flop. Learn the rules before posting.

So 2 AAA vs 1 AA means its on its way to be a flop? Dont get me wrong, yes it may be a new port, but can u name me 1 next gen action game that is better then NGS? I didnt think so, and this is one thing reviewers forget, if there is no action game out there to compete vs NGS then they still have to give credit to team ninja for enhancing everything from the old ninja gaiden games and making the first ninja gaiden for next gen. Look at the xbox 360, its been out all this time and not one action game to even be on the level of a ninja gaiden sigma until devil may cry 4 comes out but that is also on the ps3 and pc. My point is these reviews shouldnt be nit picking at every little thing, because what it looks like for example, if a shooter doesnt look as good as gears of war, they automatically downgrade it just like they did with RFOM, which really didnt get all the credit it deserves. It is a great game and is very underrated compared to gears of war.

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#47 Phil_Ken_Sebben
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How is a it a flop?

 8.7 is what should be expected of the third NG - of the same one game.

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#48 NobuoMusicMaker
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Gamespot will probably give it the "not enough new content" excuse.  I'm not expecting much.
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#49 daveg1
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thats still a good score and then you consider its a 3rd port so thats good if you ask me..everyone knows its a good game so people will still get it..only in here and other fanboy driven places will it be considered a flop!
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#50 Amnesiacx
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They basically reviewed a beta copy. The review was no doubt written about a month ago to meet deadlines for the magazine. Couple that with the fact that Sigma isn't being released until July 3rd means that they reviewed a copy that probably won't have some of the problems that they mentioned in the reviews.