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#51 Speedzilla
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not a bad list, not bad at all.

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#52 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"]That's actually a fantastic list. I think you need GTA3 on there, prob instead of Mass Effect, and it's pretty awesome.glez13

This was of the decade GTA III came out in 2001 and this list is from 2002-2012.

I would've liked to see Super Mario Galaxy 2. But it is still a great list I almost agree with every game listed.

Your decade seems to have almost 11 years for some reason... :?

It is still 10 years 12 - 10 = 2 and 12 - 2 = 10. It is from 2002 until 2012.

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#53 GeoffZak
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Shadow of the Colossus and WoW are the only two that deserve to be on that list.

But I don't care. It's entertainment weekly. They don't actually know games. lol They think they can relate to gamers. XD

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#54 guard12
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Wii sports??? Other than that I kinda like the list.

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#55 glez13
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[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]This was of the decade GTA III came out in 2001 and this list is from 2002-2012.

I would've liked to see Super Mario Galaxy 2. But it is still a great list I almost agree with every game listed.

Nintendo_Ownes7

Your decade seems to have almost 11 years for some reason... :?

It is still 10 years 12 - 10 = 2 and 12 - 2 = 10. It is from 2002 until 2012.

I don't know whats wrong with the basic numerical skills of people. 2002-2011 is a decade 2002-2012 is 11 years.

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#56 Zeviander
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GTA3 is older than a decade.glez13
Since when do we get a new "decade" every year?
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#57 Allicrombie
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Wii Sports>all
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#58 glez13
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[QUOTE="glez13"]GTA3 is older than a decade.Zeviander
Since when do we get a new "decade" every year?

A decade is simply 10 years.

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#59 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="glez13"]

Your decade seems to have almost 11 years for some reason... :?

glez13

It is still 10 years 12 - 10 = 2 and 12 - 2 = 10. It is from 2002 until 2012.

I don't know whats wrong with the basic numerical skills of people. 2002-2011 is a decade 2002-2012 is 11 years.

Ok then it is 2003 to 2012 although Windwaker came out in Japan in December of 2002.

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#60 PhazonBlazer
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I was expecting a really bad list, I was actually surprised that it was an ok list.

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#61 Badosh
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Everyone vote! One of those games will be announced as the winner at the ... VGAs, omg!
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#62 Lucianu
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10. GTA: San Andreas
9. Portal
8. Arkham City goes here
7. Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition
6. Super F*cking Mario Galaxy 2
5. Fallout: New Vegas
4. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
3. WoW goes here
2. Half Life 2 goes here
1. Resident Evil 4

DontGetBigIdeas

Much better.

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#63 glez13
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Everyone vote! One of those games will be announced as the winner at the ... VGAs, omg! Badosh

Metal God Solid 4 and The Elder Scrolls V: Godrim aren't on the list = FAIL!!!111

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#64 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"]

10. GTA: San Andreas
9. Portal
8. Arkham City goes here
7. Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition
6. Super F*cking Mario Galaxy 2
5. Fallout: New Vegas
4. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
3. WoW goes here
2. Half Life 2 goes here
1. Resident Evil 4

Lucianu

Much better.

That list the TC had it wasn't numbered in an order the TC did it but the actual list they only put listed it by Release Date that is why the TC had Arkham City at #1 because it was the latest game on the list to be released.

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#65 glez13
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[QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"]

10. GTA: San Andreas
9. Portal
8. Arkham City goes here
7. Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition
6. Super F*cking Mario Galaxy 2
5. Fallout: New Vegas
4. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
3. WoW goes here
2. Half Life 2 goes here
1. Resident Evil 4

Lucianu

Much better.

Didn't you read the post above you? They are just listed by release date you have to vote the winner. So yeah, even more f***up.

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#66 PAL360
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Everyone vote! One of those games will be announced as the winner at the ... VGAs, omg! Badosh

Red dead redemption, since there's no Godrim in the list!

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#67 hoola
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Prepare for mad, but frankly it's not a horrible list at all. No Halo or Call of Duty's make it, but neither does Metal Gear Solid.

10. Windwaker
9. Half Life 2
8. Wow
7. Shadow Of The Colossus
6. Wii Sports
5. Bioshock
4. Portal
3. Mass Effect 2
2. Red Dead Redemption
1. Arkham City

DontGetBigIdeas

Half Life 2 + episodes should be number 1

Bioshock should be number 2

Portal + 2 should be number 3

After that it doesn't matter. I guess it isn't a terrible list but the order is completely wrong.

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#68 glez13
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OMG!!!111

No Call of Duty = FAIL!!!111

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#69 Nintendo_Ownes7
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[QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"]

Prepare for mad, but frankly it's not a horrible list at all. No Halo or Call of Duty's make it, but neither does Metal Gear Solid.

10. Windwaker
9. Half Life 2
8. Wow
7. Shadow Of The Colossus
6. Wii Sports
5. Bioshock
4. Portal
3. Mass Effect 2
2. Red Dead Redemption
1. Arkham City

hoola

Half Life 2 + episodes should be number 1

Bioshock should be number 2

Portal + 2 should be number 3

After that it doesn't matter. I guess it isn't a terrible list but the order is completely wrong.

The order is by Release date we still have to vote on the Winner and it would be announced December 7th during the VGAs.

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#70 PhazonBlazer
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[QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"]

Prepare for mad, but frankly it's not a horrible list at all. No Halo or Call of Duty's make it, but neither does Metal Gear Solid.

10. Windwaker
9. Half Life 2
8. Wow
7. Shadow Of The Colossus
6. Wii Sports
5. Bioshock
4. Portal
3. Mass Effect 2
2. Red Dead Redemption
1. Arkham City

hoola

Half Life 2 + episodes should be number 1

Bioshock should be number 2

Portal + 2 should be number 3

After that it doesn't matter. I guess it isn't a terrible list but the order is completely wrong.

It's ranked in the order they came out

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#71 hoola
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[QUOTE="hoola"]

[QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"]

Prepare for mad, but frankly it's not a horrible list at all. No Halo or Call of Duty's make it, but neither does Metal Gear Solid.

10. Windwaker
9. Half Life 2
8. Wow
7. Shadow Of The Colossus
6. Wii Sports
5. Bioshock
4. Portal
3. Mass Effect 2
2. Red Dead Redemption
1. Arkham City

Nintendo_Ownes7

Half Life 2 + episodes should be number 1

Bioshock should be number 2

Portal + 2 should be number 3

After that it doesn't matter. I guess it isn't a terrible list but the order is completely wrong.

The order is by Release date we still have to vote on the Winner and it would be announced December 7th during the VGAs.

ok that makes sense then because I was wonder why they had us voting for the winner when they were already showing it right there:P

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#72 Lucianu
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[QUOTE="Lucianu"]

[QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"]

10. GTA: San Andreas
9. Portal
8. Arkham City goes here
7. Devil May Cry 3: Special Edition
6. Super F*cking Mario Galaxy 2
5. Fallout: New Vegas
4. Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
3. WoW goes here
2. Half Life 2 goes here
1. Resident Evil 4

glez13

Much better.

Didn't you read the post above you? They are just listed by release date you have to vote the winner. So yeah, even more f***up.

F*k that list and its rules. My picks are absolute.

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#73 whiskeystrike
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Shadow of the Colossus and WoW are the only two that deserve to be on that list.

But I don't care. It's entertainment weekly. They don't actually know games. lol They think they can relate to gamers. XD

GeoffZak

Lemme guess it should only have the JRPGs you consider hardcore and nothing else, right?

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#74 MercenaryMafia
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Entertainment Weekly. lol.Badosh
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#75 redskins26rocs
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where is metal gear solid i think at least one of them should have been on the list same with gta, halo and a bethesda game like fallout or tes
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#76 ActicEdge
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That`s not a terrible list by any means. I endorse Windwaker on there and SoTC as well. I kind of vommited a bit when I saw Rockstar trash and Mass Effect there though.

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Very hard to make a list that small, plenty I think are missing, some that shouldn't be there, but I've seen a lot lot worse tbh.
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#78 padaporra
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Wind Waker is ranked too low. Red Dead Redemption is ranked too high.RulerofGondor


There isn't a ranking. It's just the 10 games. No order.

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#79 goblaa
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That's actually a really good list. I'd replace red-dead with SMG or SMG2 though.

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#80 Sparky04
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Really not a bad list. I would get rid of Wii sports and replace Mass Effect 2 with Dragon Age: Origins but whatever. Really glad to see Shadow of the Colossus on that list.

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#81 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="BrunoBRS"]

[QUOTE="glez13"]

GTA3 is older than a decade.

Nintendo_Ownes7

the decade is from 2000-2010, so GTA 3 would apply. although the list goes as far as 2011, so i assume they went for 2001-2011. GTA 3 still applies though.

This is listed from 2002-2012 since this is the end of 2012. so it wouldn't apply to GTA III only the PC version of GTA III was released in 2002.

the list doesn't include any 2012 games, and 2012 is another decade entirely. plus, you can't write about a time frame's best until that time frame is over (unless you're master shake and you ignore that there are still games to be released before calling GOTY).
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#82 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="Badosh"]Everyone vote! One of those games will be announced as the winner at the ... VGAs, omg!

well since my favorite game of the decade (and all time) is actually an option, i'll vote. *votes*
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#83 TheDidact
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Meh. If it was from 2002-2012 I'd go with: 1) Metroid Prime 2) Mass Effect 2 3) Super Mario Galaxy 4) Uncharted 2 5) Halo 2 6) Metal Gear Solid 3 7) Skyrim 8) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 9) God of War 2 10) Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal
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They actually got #1 right. Arkham City is the most well rounded game ive ever played.

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#85 TwistedShade
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Replace Shadow of the collusus with MGS4 and it's a great list.

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#86 Ballroompirate
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Not a bad list for once
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#87 mjf249
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Entertainment Weekly.... Please stay away from games. It's insulting that Wii Sports is on there.... Missing so many great games.
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#88 goblaa
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Replace Shadow of the collusus with MGS4 and it's a great list.

TwistedShade

That's the worst suggestion is the history of history.

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#89 DarkLink77
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Prepare for mad, but frankly it's not a horrible list at all. No Halo or Call of Duty's make it, but neither does Metal Gear Solid.

10. Windwaker
9. Half Life 2
8. Wow
7. Shadow Of The Colossus
6. Wii Sports
5. Bioshock
4. Portal
3. Mass Effect 2
2. Red Dead Redemption
1. Arkham City

DontGetBigIdeas

Terrible f*cking list.

No Halo: CE, no Resident Evil 4, no Gears of War, no StarCraft II, no Ninja Gaiden Black, no Call of Duty 4 (it deserves to be on that list, as much as I hate it), no Metroid Prime, no Metal Gear Solid 3, no Super Mario Galaxy, no Uncharted 2 ... this list is a joke.

What the f*ck is Wii Sports doin in a "best of" list, lolBioshock, LAWLMass Effect 2, Wind Waker is the worst 3D Zelda, Portal is mad overrated, Red Dead is nothing compared to, say, GTA III, and Arkham City executes well, but it's a year old, and we're declaring game of the decade? Please.

There are only two games you can actuall make an argument for on that list. On is WoW, and the other is Half-Life 2, which doesn't belong there either.

Garbage. Complete and total garbage.

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#90 BrunoBRS
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[QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"]

Prepare for mad, but frankly it's not a horrible list at all. No Halo or Call of Duty's make it, but neither does Metal Gear Solid.

10. Windwaker
9. Half Life 2
8. Wow
7. Shadow Of The Colossus
6. Wii Sports
5. Bioshock
4. Portal
3. Mass Effect 2
2. Red Dead Redemption
1. Arkham City

DarkLink77

Terrible f*cking list.

No Halo: CE, no Resident Evil 4, no Gears of War, no StarCraft II, no Ninja Gaiden Black, no Call of Duty 4 (it deserves to be on that list, as much as I hate it), no Metroid Prime, no Metal Gear Solid 3, no Super Mario Galaxy, no Uncharted 2 ... this list is a joke.

What the f*ck is Wii Sports doin in a "best of" list, lolBioshock, LAWLMass Effect 2, Wind Waker is the worst 3D Zelda, Portal is mad overrated, Red Dead is nothing compared to, say, GTA III, and Arkham City executes well, but it's a year old, and we're declaring game of the decade? Please.

There are only two games you can actuall make an argument for on that list. On is WoW, and the other is Half-Life 2, which doesn't belong there either.

Garbage. Complete and total garbage.

someone sounds pissed.
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#91 Blabadon
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Wii Sports? People just need to pack it up with the "best games" title and make it "most influential" instead. Also, RDR LOL
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#92 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="DontGetBigIdeas"]

Prepare for mad, but frankly it's not a horrible list at all. No Halo or Call of Duty's make it, but neither does Metal Gear Solid.

10. Windwaker
9. Half Life 2
8. Wow
7. Shadow Of The Colossus
6. Wii Sports
5. Bioshock
4. Portal
3. Mass Effect 2
2. Red Dead Redemption
1. Arkham City

BrunoBRS

Terrible f*cking list.

No Halo: CE, no Resident Evil 4, no Gears of War, no StarCraft II, no Ninja Gaiden Black, no Call of Duty 4 (it deserves to be on that list, as much as I hate it), no Metroid Prime, no Metal Gear Solid 3, no Super Mario Galaxy, no Uncharted 2 ... this list is a joke.

What the f*ck is Wii Sports doin in a "best of" list, lolBioshock, LAWLMass Effect 2, Wind Waker is the worst 3D Zelda, Portal is mad overrated, Red Dead is nothing compared to, say, GTA III, and Arkham City executes well, but it's a year old, and we're declaring game of the decade? Please.

There are only two games you can actuall make an argument for on that list. On is WoW, and the other is Half-Life 2, which doesn't belong there either.

Garbage. Complete and total garbage.

someone sounds pissed.

I ain't even mad, to be honest. It's just a terrible f*cking list.
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#93 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"]Wii Sports? People just need to pack it up with the "best games" title and make it "most influential" instead. Also, RDR LOL

Even then, half of the games on that list do not belong there.
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#94 moistsandwich
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I can get behind that list... but take out Wii SPorts and replace it with SMG2

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#95 enterawesome
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That is one wack-ass f*cking list. What kind of bizarro world does EW live in where Wii Sports is better than Wind Waker? Also RDR lol

EDIT: I swear to god I did not read Blabadon's post before I posted this

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#96 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"]Wii Sports? People just need to pack it up with the "best games" title and make it "most influential" instead. Also, RDR LOLDarkLink77
Even then, half of the games on that list do not belong there.

True, it's a strange mix of both

Here's how I'd put it:

10. Windwaker - Either they liked it that much, or it's another pick that's there so people don't rage at them and because it can pass off as logical even if they haven't.
9. Half Life 2 - Understandable for me up until midway this gen. I haven't played this, but as awesome as it sounds and may be, its gameplay seems to have aged too damn poorly for it to be here
8. Wow - Understandable for the fact that no one tops it at what it does. You are a WoW fan so I'll take your opinion on this.
7. Shadow Of The Colossus - Of course, this would always be my choice for #1 since it's my favorite game of all time, but I really hope they actually played it and didn't put it on to satisfy gamers/ because it would seem logical even if they didn't.
6. Wii Sports - It's a shallow minigame packaged game. The amount of games that should be here instead is mind-boggling
5. Bioshock - Same as Portal
4. Portal - Haven't played but understandable
3. Mass Effect 2 - Haven't played, but somewhat understandable. Only problem is that it's the middle of a trilogy which in my opinion makes it weird
2. Red Dead Redemption - I dislike this game very much so to see this trash here disappoints me
1. Arkham City - Worthy of the list, not the spot

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#97 Blabadon
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That is one wack-ass f*cking list. What kind of bizarro world does EW live in where Wii Sports is better than Wind Waker? Also RDR lol

EDIT: I swear to god I did not read Blabadon's post before I posted this

enterawesome
Don't worry, the same thing happened to me a few days ago: http://www.gamespot.com/forums/topic/29322767/do-you-get-the-sense-theres-a-lot-of-lies-being-spread-about-wii-u It's funny as hell.
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#98 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Blabadon"]Wii Sports? People just need to pack it up with the "best games" title and make it "most influential" instead. Also, RDR LOLBlabadon

Even then, half of the games on that list do not belong there.

True, it's a strange mix of both

Here's how I'd put it:

10. Windwaker - Either they liked it that much, or it's another pick that's there so people don't rage at them and because it can pass off as logical even if they haven't.
9. Half Life 2 - Understandable for me up until midway this gen. I haven't played this, but as awesome as it sounds and may be, its gameplay seems to have aged too damn poorly for it to be here
8. Wow - Understandable for the fact that no one tops it at what it does. You are a WoW fan so I'll take your opinion on this.
7. Shadow Of The Colossus - Of course, this would always be my choice for #1 since it's my favorite game of all time, but I really hope they actually played it and didn't put it on to satisfy gamers/ because it would seem logical even if they didn't.
6. Wii Sports - It's a shallow minigame packaged game. The amount of games that should be here instead is mind-boggling
5. Bioshock - Same as Portal
4. Portal - Haven't played but understandable
3. Mass Effect 2 - Haven't played, but somewhat understandable. Only problem is that it's the middle of a trilogy which in my opinion makes it weird
2. Red Dead Redemption - I dislike this game very much so to see this trash here disappoints me
1. Arkham City - Worthy of the list, not the spot

In their defense, the list isn't actually ranked by anything other than year of release. TC dun goof'd. As far as the games go, I agree with you by and large. Many of those games are good ( I love RDR :P), but putting them over something like GTA III, Halo: CE, or Resident Evil 4, among others? Get out.
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#99 Blabadon
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Even then, half of the games on that list do not belong there.DarkLink77

True, it's a strange mix of both

Here's how I'd put it:

10. Windwaker - Either they liked it that much, or it's another pick that's there so people don't rage at them and because it can pass off as logical even if they haven't.
9. Half Life 2 - Understandable for me up until midway this gen. I haven't played this, but as awesome as it sounds and may be, its gameplay seems to have aged too damn poorly for it to be here
8. Wow - Understandable for the fact that no one tops it at what it does. You are a WoW fan so I'll take your opinion on this.
7. Shadow Of The Colossus - Of course, this would always be my choice for #1 since it's my favorite game of all time, but I really hope they actually played it and didn't put it on to satisfy gamers/ because it would seem logical even if they didn't.
6. Wii Sports - It's a shallow minigame packaged game. The amount of games that should be here instead is mind-boggling
5. Bioshock - Same as Portal
4. Portal - Haven't played but understandable
3. Mass Effect 2 - Haven't played, but somewhat understandable. Only problem is that it's the middle of a trilogy which in my opinion makes it weird
2. Red Dead Redemption - I dislike this game very much so to see this trash here disappoints me
1. Arkham City - Worthy of the list, not the spot

In their defense, the list isn't actually ranked by anything other than year of release. TC dun goof'd. As far as the games go, I agree with you by and large. Many of those games are good ( I love RDR :P), but putting them over something like GTA III, Halo: CE, or Resident Evil 4, among others? Get out.

Oh, I see, goes to show I should actually read the article.

Now that I read it, the Shadow of the Colossus and a few other games seem decently justified (I always get chills reading about SotC, every damn time), but I still can't support Red Dead or Wii Sports on the list. You're right, not over GTA III, VC, SA, Halo 1, 2 (eh...), or 3 (most deserving IMO), and lots of other games.

Then I would throw in my old wild cards like Uncharted 1, DXHR, Prince of Persia 2008, etc.

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#100 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Blabadon"]True, it's a strange mix of both

Here's how I'd put it:

10. Windwaker - Either they liked it that much, or it's another pick that's there so people don't rage at them and because it can pass off as logical even if they haven't.
9. Half Life 2 - Understandable for me up until midway this gen. I haven't played this, but as awesome as it sounds and may be, its gameplay seems to have aged too damn poorly for it to be here
8. Wow - Understandable for the fact that no one tops it at what it does. You are a WoW fan so I'll take your opinion on this.
7. Shadow Of The Colossus - Of course, this would always be my choice for #1 since it's my favorite game of all time, but I really hope they actually played it and didn't put it on to satisfy gamers/ because it would seem logical even if they didn't.
6. Wii Sports - It's a shallow minigame packaged game. The amount of games that should be here instead is mind-boggling
5. Bioshock - Same as Portal
4. Portal - Haven't played but understandable
3. Mass Effect 2 - Haven't played, but somewhat understandable. Only problem is that it's the middle of a trilogy which in my opinion makes it weird
2. Red Dead Redemption - I dislike this game very much so to see this trash here disappoints me
1. Arkham City - Worthy of the list, not the spot

Blabadon

In their defense, the list isn't actually ranked by anything other than year of release. TC dun goof'd. As far as the games go, I agree with you by and large. Many of those games are good ( I love RDR :P), but putting them over something like GTA III, Halo: CE, or Resident Evil 4, among others? Get out.

Oh, I see, goes to show I should actually read the article.

Now that I read it, the Shadow of the Colossus and a few other games seem decently justified (I always get chills reading about SotC, every damn time), but I still can't support Red Dead or Wii Sports on the list. You're right, not over GTA III, VC, SA, Halo 1, 2 (eh...), or 3 (most deserving IMO), and lots of other games.

Then I would throw in my old wild cards like Uncharted 1, DXHR, Prince of Persia 2008, etc.

Some of them are justifiable. But when you realize what's been left out to get those games on that list, those arguments disappear real quick.