Epic Killzone 3 Beta 720pHD ingame shots!

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#201 Mr_BillGates
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Where is the "sharp textures" that the OP promise?

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#202 beaverbuttcoat
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I'd like to see what the rest of KZ3 looks like. Although Crysis no doubt looks better in many places, I think it's a much harder call on the snow and underground levels. I think it's a dead heat when comparing the snow and underground levels of KZ3 and vanilla Warhead. That's just me though. The pc game would still have the advantage of full AA and resolution.

He He. I hope the TC don't mind if I borrow one pic. He He. :lol: I'm having a hard time deciding which one is better.

Edit: The reason Warhead looks blurry is because I have Shaders at Enthusiast/Very High DX10. It looks sharper if I leave Shaders at Gamer/High.

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#203 mitu123
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I just loaded up a few Crysis saves and took 4 screenies. Let's see how KZ3 stacks up against it shall we?

Pretty good for a console game I'd say. So the KZ3 screenies has taken a lot of heat in this post but keep in mind that we're most likely peeved by the fact that consoles shots are normally more bull than screen.

It's going to look great in 720p on a TV as long as you're not sitting with your face 1 yard away. Crysis will look even better obviously.

Edit: lol at my fps taking a nosedive in the last one. Guess I chose the wrong second to hit F12.

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Wow, KZ3 doesn't come close, still a great looking game though.

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#204 TheSterls
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[QUOTE="OctaBech"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]As a mainly PC gamer I'm gonna give one big meh.mattuk69

Funny how insecure PC gamers are.

Insecure? Hes right the game looks meh at best. A console gamer will think think it looks amazing, but a PC gamer which has seen much better graphics will not be impressed. I could post all the Metro 2033 and crysis pics i want, but you still wont understand how meh those pics look to what PC graphics are capable of today.

I own a pretty decent gaming rig there is nothign meh about KZ2 and when you can count the number of fps on one hand that look better on pc i wouldnt be saying meh. Not to mention most of the metro 2033 screenshots dont look impressive at all.

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#205 TheSterls
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OT, you've gotta be freaking kidding me. Have you ever played STALKER or Gears of War PC on minimum settings? It looks just like that... Please don't tell me thats fire in the 3rd picture......oh God please let it be debris or something.TheBigBadGRIM

If you think Gears of war on pc on minimum settings are any settings for that matter touches KZ3 you need to get your eyes checked.

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#206 walkingdream
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It looks good....nothing amazing though
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#207 oajlu
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not bad, hopefully they have smooth movement this time, kz2 is too heavy/slow, imo.

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#208 Urworstnhtmare
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I don't know why some people think Killzone looks "blurry and too grainy" and is a "mixture of greys and browns". I don't know about you particular people who might live in a world were guns shoot bright purple beams, and there are fields of brightly coloured lollipops, but Killzone is a FPS about war. I have not been to war, but if there is one thing I know, its that war is gritty, and in the location of an industrial world like the setting of Killzone, the colour pallete is mostly greys and browns.

If anything Killzone should be applauded for its colour palette, and for its 'blurry, gritty visuals".

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#209 Hakkai007
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I don't know why some people think Killzone looks "blurry and too grainy" and is a "mixture of greys and browns". I don't know about you particular people who might live in a world were guns shoot bright purple beams, and there are fields of brightly coloured lollipops, but Killzone is a FPS about war. I have not been to war, but if there is one thing I know, its that war is gritty, and in the location of an industrial world like the setting of Killzone, the colour pallete is mostly greys and browns.

If anything Killzone should be applauded for its colour palette, and for its 'blurry, gritty visuals".

Urworstnhtmare

I didn't know real life had massive amounts of film grain.

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#210 Urworstnhtmare
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[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

I don't know why some people think Killzone looks "blurry and too grainy" and is a "mixture of greys and browns". I don't know about you particular people who might live in a world were guns shoot bright purple beams, and there are fields of brightly coloured lollipops, but Killzone is a FPS about war. I have not been to war, but if there is one thing I know, its that war is gritty, and in the location of an industrial world like the setting of Killzone, the colour pallete is mostly greys and browns.

If anything Killzone should be applauded for its colour palette, and for its 'blurry, gritty visuals".

Hakkai007

I didn't know real life had massive amounts of film grain.

I didn't know Killzone 3 had massive amounts of film grain. Oh wait. Because it doesn't. I have watched so much gameplay footage, and I fail to see any so called film grain...

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#211 gpuking
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I didn't know real life had massive amounts of film grain.

Hakkai007

You are missing the point and so do many of others, if you ever watched Saving private Ryan on Blu-ray you'd see how grainy and grey it looked. Killzone 3 does the same effect and it's not suppose to render real life effect in the manor Crysis does.

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#212 Tessellation
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i don't see sharp textures,i see only horrible aliasing n horrible AF.
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#213 Bazooka_4ME
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[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

I don't know why some people think Killzone looks "blurry and too grainy" and is a "mixture of greys and browns". I don't know about you particular people who might live in a world were guns shoot bright purple beams, and there are fields of brightly coloured lollipops, but Killzone is a FPS about war. I have not been to war, but if there is one thing I know, its that war is gritty, and in the location of an industrial world like the setting of Killzone, the colour pallete is mostly greys and browns.

If anything Killzone should be applauded for its colour palette, and for its 'blurry, gritty visuals".

Urworstnhtmare

I didn't know real life had massive amounts of film grain.

I didn't know Killzone 3 had massive amounts of film grain. Oh wait. Because it doesn't. I have watched so much gameplay footage, and I fail to see any so called film grain...



Some gamers have gotten used to playing with colorful games such as Halo and Crysis cuz to them, they'd prefer warzones like this:

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#214 hypoty
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[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

I didn't know real life had massive amounts of film grain.

Bazooka_4ME

I didn't know Killzone 3 had massive amounts of film grain. Oh wait. Because it doesn't. I have watched so much gameplay footage, and I fail to see any so called film grain...



Some gamers have gotten used to playing with colorful games such as Halo and Crysis cuz to them, they'd prefer warzones like this:

Plenty of times warzones are like that, nature doesn't dramatise things for the benefit of the viewer.

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#215 gpuking
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nature doesn't dramatise things for the benefit of the viewer.

hypoty

What do you know about nature on Helgan?

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#216 soulitane
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I really don't like the art style, well in them pictures at least.
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#217 killzowned24
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Comparing with crysis would be better if you used multiplayer like KZ3.
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#218 topgunmv
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Looks alright, not great or bad.

People really should avoid bringing up crysis though in these threads.

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#219 mirgamer
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Or maybe because there are too many FPS game with that grey, different shade of grey and black combo that people are actually sick of it? :D In any case, I actually like that kind of palette, just as I like a more vibrant palette. But the screenies posted here don't look that great. Its good with regards to current console capabilities but definitely not dethroning anything :D
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#220 Hakkai007
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[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]I didn't know real life had massive amounts of film grain.

gpuking

You are missing the point and so do many of others, if you ever watched Saving private Ryan on Blu-ray you'd see how grainy and grey it looked. Killzone 3 does the same effect and it's not suppose to render real life effect in the manor Crysis does.

Well it's ugly as hell.

In Mass Effect 1 and 2 for the PC they gave you the option to turn film grain off and it looked so much better with it off.

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#221 hypoty
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[QUOTE="hypoty"] nature doesn't dramatise things for the benefit of the viewer.

gpuking

What do you know about nature on Helgan?

I know its atmosphere is toxic, and is plagued by electrified skylines and storms. It's also mostly covered by rocky terrain and large mountains. Its fauna is also just as bad as it's atmospheric conditions. Though, I think you missed my point. Neither Halo, Crysis or Killzone's presentation of a warzone is incorrect, and being darker and grainier certainly doesn't make it more realistic (and vice-versa).

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#222 gpuking
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A better example of razor sharp textures.
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#223 Bazooka_4ME
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Comparing with crysis would be better if you used multiplayer like KZ3.killzowned24
Too bad they deleted that video you posted a while back comparing Crysis 2's beta gameplay to Killzone 3's.
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#224 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="gpuking"]

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]I didn't know real life had massive amounts of film grain.

Hakkai007

You are missing the point and so do many of others, if you ever watched Saving private Ryan on Blu-ray you'd see how grainy and grey it looked. Killzone 3 does the same effect and it's not suppose to render real life effect in the manor Crysis does.

Well it's ugly as hell.

In Mass Effect 1 and 2 for the PC they gave you the option to turn film grain off and it looked so much better with it off.

You can turn it off in the console versions as well.

Film grain can look good if not overdone and used properly to just accentuate certain moments.

I'm pretty sure a minor film grain effect pops up in crysis during a few key parts.

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#225 Hahadouken
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Looks great to me!
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#226 gpuking
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[QUOTE="gpuking"]

[QUOTE="hypoty"] nature doesn't dramatise things for the benefit of the viewer.

hypoty

What do you know about nature on Helgan?

I know its atmosphere is toxic, and is plagued by electrified skylines and storms. It's also mostly covered by rocky terrain and large mountains. Its fauna is also just as bad as it's atmospheric conditions. Though, I think you missed my point. Neither Halo, Crysis or Killzone's presentation of a warzone is incorrect, and being darker and grainier certainly doesn't make it more realistic (and vice-versa).

The keyword is cinematic, dark tone and gritty textures certainly make it more impressive looking.
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#227 tagyhag
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]Comparing with crysis would be better if you used multiplayer like KZ3.Bazooka_4ME
Too bad they deleted that video you posted a while back comparing Crysis 2's beta gameplay to Killzone 3's.

That was 360 Crysis 2.
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#228 capitalism25
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[QUOTE="gpuking"]

[QUOTE="hypoty"] nature doesn't dramatise things for the benefit of the viewer.

hypoty

What do you know about nature on Helgan?

I know its atmosphere is toxic, and is plagued by electrified skylines and storms. It's also mostly covered by rocky terrain and large mountains. Its fauna is also just as bad as it's atmospheric conditions. Though, I think you missed my point. Neither Halo, Crysis or Killzone's presentation of a warzone is incorrect, and being darker and grainier certainly doesn't make it more realistic (and vice-versa).

Crysis' theme is a tropical island...and not war torn or is mostly untouched until the Delta team visited the island and next the whole US army.
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#229 hypoty
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[QUOTE="hypoty"]

[QUOTE="gpuking"] What do you know about nature on Helgan?

gpuking

I know its atmosphere is toxic, and is plagued by electrified skylines and storms. It's also mostly covered by rocky terrain and large mountains. Its fauna is also just as bad as it's atmospheric conditions. Though, I think you missed my point. Neither Halo, Crysis or Killzone's presentation of a warzone is incorrect, and being darker and grainier certainly doesn't make it more realistic (and vice-versa).

The keyword is cinematic, dark tone and gritty textures certainly make it more impressive looking.

Well, depends on a persons preference. I know plenty of people who dislike Killzone's artstyle (which has been consistent since the original). I find both Crysis's and Killzone's artstyles to be impressive. Though, those screenshots the TC posted are ugly as hell.

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#230 Silenthps
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[QUOTE="Urworstnhtmare"]

[QUOTE="Hakkai007"]

I didn't know real life had massive amounts of film grain.

Bazooka_4ME

I didn't know Killzone 3 had massive amounts of film grain. Oh wait. Because it doesn't. I have watched so much gameplay footage, and I fail to see any so called film grain...



Some gamers have gotten used to playing with colorful games such as Halo and Crysis cuz to them, they'd prefer warzones like this:

yeah i know. shame on them. they'd also expect it to be ultra unrealistic like this too

sheesh when will people learn that all wars are grey brown and ugly? :|

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#231 hypoty
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[QUOTE="hypoty"]

[QUOTE="gpuking"] What do you know about nature on Helgan?

capitalism25

I know its atmosphere is toxic, and is plagued by electrified skylines and storms. It's also mostly covered by rocky terrain and large mountains. Its fauna is also just as bad as it's atmospheric conditions. Though, I think you missed my point. Neither Halo, Crysis or Killzone's presentation of a warzone is incorrect, and being darker and grainier certainly doesn't make it more realistic (and vice-versa).

Crysis' theme is a tropical island...and not war torn or is mostly untouched until the Delta team visited the island and next the whole US army.

And it's a fantastic theme, almost as good as the interior of the alien ship, which blew me away.

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#232 KHAndAnime
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Not really impressive to be honest. KZ2's multiplayer was way better looking. I think they pushed the blurry textures to the limits this time, probably in an effort to scrape up FPS. It's also more noticeable how many jaggies there are without the motion blur.
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#233 Hakkai007
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You can turn it off in the console versions as well.

Film grain can look good if not overdone and used properly to just accentuate certain moments.

I'm pretty sure a minor film grain effect pops up in crysis during a few key parts.

topgunmv

I never seen that film grain being used in Crysis and I make sure to turn it off in any game because it looks horrible.

Those KZ3 screenshots look much uglier because of the film grain.

And then there is all that blur.....or maybe the textures just lack detail to begin with.

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#234 Tessellation
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A better example of razor sharp textures.]gpuking
cool off screenshot,everyone knows that digital cameras add extra detail where it doesn't exist.
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#235 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

You can turn it off in the console versions as well.

Film grain can look good if not overdone and used properly to just accentuate certain moments.

I'm pretty sure a minor film grain effect pops up in crysis during a few key parts.

Hakkai007

I never seen that film grain being used in Crysis and I make sure to turn it off in any game because it looks horrible.

Those KZ3 screenshots look much uglier because of the film grain.

And then there is all that blur.....or maybe the textures just lack detail to begin with.

I googled it and it looks like warhead has it pop up a few times if you have postprocessing turned all the way up.

I'll trying finding it and capping it with fraps tomorrow.

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#236 jis87
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TC's screenshots are direct feed since they are taken from gametrailers' Forums. It is the PS3's "It only does screenshots v14" -thread where users are using capture cards and then uploading the screenshots on the thread.

Anyhow, looking at these screenshots you kind of miss the "epicness" and everything seems too grainy. Some of you have said it has too much blur but the reality is that KZ3's beta do have very little of motion blur or any kind of blur. It doesn't have a ""vaseline-effect" like KZ2 did (see: quincunx AA, altough KZ2 did very good job with quincunx). As for the grainy looks of the corinth crossing you should remember that a nuclear device has just gone off and that this is really a war torn city. The atmosphere is very impressive and hectic.

While you may not see such epicness from these screenshots I can assure you that Killzone 3 beta looks stunning, it has so much stuff going on the screen and the particle effects are insane. And I'm sure that guerrilla games will make KZ3 to look even more impressive graphically. They have the time and knowledge to do so. Finally, there is also the Frozen Dam -level if you don't like the grain. Thanks for reading!

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#237 TheSterls
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[QUOTE="themyth01"]^ try using Crysis screens on max settings, or just better screens.rpgs_shall_rule
I think his point was showing how Crysis was better even without fully maxed out settings.

That is max settings :|

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#238 UnrealLegend
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Those pics are terrible, looks worse than KZ2.

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#239 AbleFa3
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A better example of razor sharp textures.  gpuking

Halo Reach looks as sharp

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#240 zero_snake99
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Halo Reach looks as sharp

AbleFa3

Eh?... don't take this the wrong way... but the Halo franchise has never looked good.

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#241 bigblunt537
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Halo Reach looks as sharp

zero_snake99

Eh?... don't take this the wrong way... but the Halo franchise has never looked good.

Halo 1 definitely did imo back in the day.

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#242 NukePistols
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As a mainly PC gamer I'm gonna give one big meh.GeneralShowzer
I'm mainly a PS3 gamer and I'm not impressed.
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#244 zero_snake99
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[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Halo Reach looks as sharp

bigblunt537

Eh?... don't take this the wrong way... but the Halo franchise has never looked good.

Halo 1 definitely did imo back in the day.

Well it was impressive how large the environments were, but if you compare to other games on the Xbox.. like Riddick, that game smashes even lots of games now.
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#245 PAL360
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[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Halo Reach looks as sharp

bigblunt537

Eh?... don't take this the wrong way... but the Halo franchise has never looked good.

Halo 1 definitely did imo back in the day.

Yeah, CE and Halo2 looked fantastic. So does Halo Reach.

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#246 bigblunt537
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[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]

I just loaded up a few Crysis saves and took 4 screenies. Let's see how KZ3 stacks up against it shall we?

Pretty good for a console game I'd say. So the KZ3 screenies has taken a lot of heat in this post but keep in mind that we're most likely peeved by the fact that consoles shots are normally more bull than screen.

It's going to look great in 720p on a TV as long as you're not sitting with your face 1 yard away. Crysis will look even better obviously.

Edit: lol at my fps taking a nosedive in the last one. Guess I chose the wrong second to hit F12.

blaznwiipspman1

sigh why would you even put the screens at the same resolution. First of all, if you put the resolution of any screen down, you can make even the Wii look equal to the PC. If you want to see the differences put the screens at their native resolution then compare.

No Wii game will look even close to a downscaled PC game. Crysis at 640 x 480 still looks light years ahead of the Wii.

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#247 bigblunt537
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[QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"] Eh?... don't take this the wrong way... but the Halo franchise has never looked good.

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Halo 1 definitely did imo back in the day.

Well it was impressive how large the environments were, but if you compare to other games on the Xbox.. like Riddick, that game smashes even lots of games now.

Well lets see..... Halo CE came out 2001 and was one of the first Xbox games and definitely one of the best looking shooters during it time and you are comparing it with Riddick which came out in 2004? How does this make sense?

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#248 mitu123
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[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]

[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

Halo Reach looks as sharp

bigblunt537

Eh?... don't take this the wrong way... but the Halo franchise has never looked good.

Halo 1 definitely did imo back in the day.

And Halo 2.
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#249 AndyAlfredo
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People should see the game in motion before making any conclusions.

The game looks amazing and plays well, too. Even better than Killzone 2.

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#250 Renzokucant
Member since 2009 • 3157 Posts
anyone that says meh is obviously drinkin haterade