Epic Killzone 3 Beta 720pHD ingame shots!

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

lemmings and hermits are threatened... :roll:

lundy86_4

What would Hermits be threatened by? :?

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[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

lemmings and hermits are threatened... :roll:

Stevo_the_gamer

What would Hermits be threatened by? :?

:lol:

Especially when we're talking about graphics...

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

lemmings and hermits are threatened... :roll:

lundy86_4

What would Hermits be threatened by? :?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]

lemmings and hermits are threatened... :roll:

Bazooka_4ME

What would Hermits be threatened by? :?

But... It can't.

Can it come close to replicating Crysis (Very High) at resolutions of 1080p plus? I'm not saying console games look awful, as some of them very much don't, but "close" isn't a term i'd use to describe their graphics.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]As a mainly PC gamer I'm gonna give one big meh.Silenthps

That a "simple" system such as teh PS3 can produce a graphical game as close to those in PCs.Bazooka_4ME

The PS3 can't though...

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]That a "simple" system such as teh PS3 can produce a graphical game as close to those in PCs.Stevo_the_gamer

The PS3 can't though...

Here's Killzone 3 beta gameplay

That a "simple" system such as teh PS3 can produce a graphical game as close to those in PCs.Bazooka_4ME

Common sense makes arguments like this rather redundant. There is no point in arguing with someone who thinks 2005 tech can compare with 2010 tech, its a technological impossibility for past hardware to match future hardware.

There would have to be artificial factors holding the latter back, which would be nothing to boast about; given the PS3s past.

Show me some gameplay. As a matter of fact show me a Crysis 2 gameplay since that's what hermits and lemmings are clinging to at the moment.

Bazooka_4ME

Having elected yourself the judge of this argument, I think it is fair to say you aren't about to give a fair review of the facts. Like a creationist asking for fossil evidence, no matter how much is presented; it would never be enough. Asking for evidence from a unreleased game that not a single PC gamer has; also doesn't help. Frankly I wouldn't refer to Crysis 2, given that it is a console limited game.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]That a "simple" system such as teh PS3 can produce a graphical game as close to those in PCs.Bazooka_4ME

The PS3 can't though...

Here's Killzone 3 beta gameplay

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"] Show me some gameplay. As a matter of fact show me a Crysis 2 gameplay since that's what hermits and lemmings are clinging to at the moment.

Here's Killzone 3 beta gameplay

tagyhag

Just from character animation and sounds, Killzone 3 blows both Crysis and Crysis 2 out of the water IMO

[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"] Show me some gameplay. As a matter of fact show me a Crysis 2 gameplay since that's what hermits and lemmings are clinging to at the moment.

Here's Killzone 3 beta gameplay

Bazooka_4ME

The little of single player we've seen look so much better than these shots, the grain filter doesn't help either, though it's still in alpha, it's almost like these screens were altered or something, even this looks better.

lol what ever, i think it looks good, as im not a pompous pc gamer that cant give credit when credit is due.

I like consoles more anywyas, as i dont have to worry about anything from viruses to whether or not my computer can run it or not, and I like how with a console i can just pop the game in and play with out worries.

So killzone 3 will be fine by me.

[QUOTE="tagyhag"][QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"] Show me some gameplay. As a matter of fact show me a Crysis 2 gameplay since that's what hermits and lemmings are clinging to at the moment.

Here's Killzone 3 beta gameplay

Bazooka_4ME

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"] That a "simple" system such as teh PS3 can produce a graphical game as close to those in PCs.AnnoyedDragon

Common sense makes arguments like this rather redundant. There is no point in arguing with someone who thinks 2005 tech can compare with 2010 tech, its a technological impossibility for past hardware to match future hardware.

There would have to be artificial factors holding the latter back, which would be nothing to boast about; given the PS3s past.

Show me some gameplay. As a matter of fact show me a Crysis 2 gameplay since that's what hermits and lemmings are clinging to at the moment.

Bazooka_4ME

Having elected yourself the judge of this argument, I think it is fair to say you aren't about to give a fair review of the facts. Like a creationist asking for fossil evidence, no matter how much is presented; it would never be enough. Asking for evidence from a unreleased game that not a single PC gamer has; also doesn't help. Frankly I wouldn't refer to Crysis 2, given that it is a console limited game.

lol what ever, i think it looks good, as im not a pompous pc gamer that cant give credit when credit is due.

I like consoles more anywyas, as i dont have to worry about anything from viruses to whether or not my computer can run it or not, and I like how with a console i can just pop the game in and play with out worries.

So killzone 3 will be fine by me.

jerkface96

You don't have to be pompous to see that they don't look that great. I have no doubt it'll look fantastic upon release, but those screens leave much to be desired.

lol what ever, i think it looks good, as im not a pompous pc gamer that cant give credit when credit is due.

I like consoles more anywyas, as i dont have to worry about anything from viruses to whether or not my computer can run it or not, and I like how with a console i can just pop the game in and play with out worries.

So killzone 3 will be fine by me.

jerkface96

For the 2nd time, it isn't just PC gamers criticising those screens.

Well it's common sense that whenever hermits are threatened, all they talk about are numbers. "Yeah my PC can play games in 4xMSAA", "Yeah I can play this in 1080p in my power awesomest PC!"... blah blah... Stop showing me numbers and show me gameplay.Bazooka_4ME

Again, threatened by what exaclty? You said that consoles can come close to looking the same as PC's, but I asked a question, which you ignored, on whether they can come close to replicating Crysis at 1080p plus (Very High) any time soon.

Well it's common sense that whenever hermits are threatened, all they talk about are numbers. "Yeah my PC can play games in 4xMSAA", "Yeah I can play this in 1080p in my power awesomest PC!"... blah blah... Stop showing me numbers and show me gameplay.Bazooka_4ME

So in your universe, 256mb of vram can store the same as 1GB of vram? Of course that's just silly, but numbers aren't important; right?

Have fun folks, I think I'll sit the rest of this one out.

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lol what ever, i think it looks good, as im not a pompous pc gamer that cant give credit when credit is due.

I like consoles more anywyas, as i dont have to worry about anything from viruses to whether or not my computer can run it or not, and I like how with a console i can just pop the game in and play with out worries.

So killzone 3 will be fine by me.

lundy86_4

You don't have to be pompous to see that they don't look that great. I have no doubt it'll look fantastic upon release, but those screens leave much to be desired.

Cool pics, but they are low res pics.

i know i agree they dont look that great, just some horrible screen shots. but still.... jerkface96

Considering how KZ2 came out, i'd sincerely doubt this game will look anything other than superb.

As a mainly PC gamer I'm gonna give one big meh.GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]Well it's common sense that whenever hermits are threatened, all they talk about are numbers. "Yeah my PC can play games in 4xMSAA", "Yeah I can play this in 1080p in my power awesomest PC!"... blah blah... Stop showing me numbers and show me gameplay.AnnoyedDragon

So in your universe, 256mb of vram can store the same as 1GB of vram? Of course that's just silly, but numbers aren't important; right?

Have fun folks, I think I'll sit the rest of this one out.

[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]Well it's common sense that whenever hermits are threatened, all they talk about are numbers. "Yeah my PC can play games in 4xMSAA", "Yeah I can play this in 1080p in my power awesomest PC!"... blah blah... Stop showing me numbers and show me gameplay.lundy86_4

Again, threatened by what exaclty? You said that consoles can come close to looking the same as PC's, but I asked a question, which you ignored, on whether they can come close to replicating Crysis at 1080p plus (Very High) any time soon.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]As a mainly PC gamer I'm gonna give one big meh.XanderZane

They are low res pics.

Again, you're providing numbers that aren't helping your very arguments. I asked for a gameplay, in which you ignored.Bazooka_4ME

We're in a thread talking specifically about the graphics and look of the game. To which you said:

That a "simple" system such as teh PS3 can produce a graphical game as close to those in PCs.Bazooka_4ME

Which implies you are talking specifically about the graphical aspect of the game -- not gameplay, nor any other aspect. Now, with regards to those numbers you keep wanting to do away with, they have a *DIRECT* impact on the overall graphical quality of the game, as increasing resolution, AA and texture quality/shader quality/ shadow quality etc will make a game look *CONSIDERABLY* better.

Here is some gameplay of Crysis including all of those "numbers" you oh so much hate. Now here is a comparison between low and high quality, just to help you out.

Trust me, in a debate, consistency can be your best friend.

Watching: Crysis 2 PC 720p beta gameplay gets destroyed by Killzone 3 PS3 beta gameplay... :roll:

Watching: Crysis 2 PC 720p beta gameplay gets destroyed by Killzone 3 PS3 beta gameplay... :roll:

Bazooka_4ME

Why are you linking Crysis 2? You specified PC, which would mean all PC games are open to comarison regarding your graphics being "close" comment. The first Crysis alone destroys that argument. Refer to my post above.

Honestly, your lack of consistency hurts my head.

Blurzone without the blur = mehzone.

Those shots look very average I need to see more

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Watching: Crysis 2 PC 720p beta gameplay gets destroyed by Killzone 3 PS3 beta gameplay... :roll:

lundy86_4

Why are you linking Crysis 2? You specified PC, which would mean all PC games are open to comarison regarding your graphics being "close" comment. The first Crysis alone destroys that argument. Refer to my post above.

Honestly, your lack of consistency hurts my head.

Those pics don't look that great to be honest :? but then again I never understand why anybody drools over screenshots, vids I get but screens only tell half the story.

The Crysis video you posted were pretty good but lacked atmosphere and it was empty. Yeah it looks photorealistic which I'm assuming would be an easy task for developers to produce. But animation and processing effects especially environmental atmosphere, I think Killzone 3 can step to the plate. Bazooka_4ME

You said the PS3 can create games close to that of the PC in terms of graphics, but now you divert the entire basis of your debate to artstyle... Seriously? Technically, which is what was being discussed, Killzone 3 will be very far behind Crysis in terms of graphics. Artistically, it's entirely subjective.

Ewww it looks just as bad as Killzone 2.

So much blur.

Everything looks out of focus.

Film Grain filter really kills it too.

You said the PS3 can create games close to that of the PC in terms of graphics, but now you divert the entire basis of your debate to artstyle...

lundy86_4

I know I said I'd stay out, but, that's the point.

He has already stated he will not accept any arguments from figures or technical information. He might as well have said no facts allowed then, because all that leaves if subjective arguments from opinion (which is the goal really). Seeing how he has elected himself a judge for determining what's "good enough", and has already stated what he thinks, there is no real point in debating with him.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

You said the PS3 can create games close to that of the PC in terms of graphics, but now you divert the entire basis of your debate to artstyle...

AnnoyedDragon

I know I said I'd stay out, but, that's the point.

He has already stated he will not accept any arguments from figures or technical information. He might as well have said no facts allowed then, because all that leaves if subjective arguments from opinion (which is the goal really). Seeing how he has elected himself a judge for determining what's "good enough", and has already stated what he thinks, there is no real point in debating with him.

Exactly the way I see it. Really this can only debated by using the facts, but numbers aren't allowed. What an awful way of stacking an argument.

Fortunately, he's decided that debating with me isn't worthwhile (or so it seems). He's yet to refute my other posts.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Why are you linking Crysis 2? You specified PC, which would mean all PC games are open to comarison regarding your graphics being "close" comment. The first Crysis alone destroys that argument. Refer to my post above.

Honestly, your lack of consistency hurts my head.

Bazooka_4ME

You're flip flopping all over the place. AND going into subjective grounds.

And I have no idea how you'd think making a photorealistic game would be an easy task. (Especially when the entire level of a Crysis map ((Which are easily 5x bigger than Killzone 2 campaign maps)) is being rendered simutaneously.)

The fact that you had to use a 720p video of Crysis to try to make it equal shows people NEED to limit the PC to try to compare on equal grounds.

Not impressed. Not even in comparison with some other console games.. let alone what I'm used to on PC.

hand me a pair of cow goggles so I can see the 'epicness' and 'teh graphucks'

these look horrible:lol: