Eurogamer: Leaked PS4 Slim is legit - Watch it boot up!

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#51 chikenfriedrice
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@davillain- said:

@emgesp: Sorry but when I see a person values there's stuff, even to a machine that happens to play games, I can respect that. Same reason if someone loves there Car to death when they clean it and wax it. It maybe a machine but that machine means more to that person. We Humans value what we think it's important to us, even a console gaming machine.

On that note I just upgraded my PC case and put in 2 fans that have green led's, my case glows a beautiful green when in use now.....I love that stuff.

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#52 emgesp
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@davillain- said:

@emgesp: Sorry but when I see a person values there's stuff, even to a machine that happens to play games, I can respect that. Same reason if someone loves there Car to death when they clean it and wax it. It maybe a machine but that machine means more to that person. We Humans value what we think it's important to us, even a console gaming machine.

So you can only value something if its aesthetically pleasing?

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#53 CRUSHER88
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It will be interesting to see what direction they go having essentially two consoles out this year. If the PS4 Slim is similar to the PS4 (no 4k, HDR, etc), they can definitely price it below the Xbox One S. The Neo could be priced similar to the Xbox One S, depending on the storage space they choose to start the Neo at.

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#54 dynamitecop
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The original PS4 is much more attractive, and it's already small enough so I'm failing to see the appeal to this.

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#55  Edited By Shewgenja
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@dynamitecop: cheaper to manufacture, cool, and a change in supply chain going to finfet.

It has little to nothing to do with aesthetics and everything to do with engineering.

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#56 dynamitecop
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@Shewgenja said:

@dynamitecop: cheaper to manufacture, cool, and a change in supply chain going to finfet.

It has little to nothing to do with aesthetics and everything to do with engineering.

And this means what to the consumer?

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#57 QuadKnight
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@dynamitecop said:

The original PS4 is much more attractive, and it's already small enough so I'm failing to see the appeal to this.

I agree. I won't be getting this.

The Neo on the other hand....

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#58 CRUSHER88
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@dynamitecop said:
@Shewgenja said:

@dynamitecop: cheaper to manufacture, cool, and a change in supply chain going to finfet.

It has little to nothing to do with aesthetics and everything to do with engineering.

And this means what to the consumer?

Usually a lower price.

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#59 dynamitecop
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@CRUSHER88 said:
@dynamitecop said:
@Shewgenja said:

@dynamitecop: cheaper to manufacture, cool, and a change in supply chain going to finfet.

It has little to nothing to do with aesthetics and everything to do with engineering.

And this means what to the consumer?

Usually a lower price.

A lower price should already be implied for the existing device, it's only dropped $50 in nearly 3 year, Sony has price gouged because of their stance in the market.

Also not to mention Neo is being announced/launched so the price should fall naturally in that case as well.

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#60 p3anut
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X1 S still looks better.

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#61 SuperFlyZero
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Who cares how it looks? Some of you guys plan on marrying it or something?

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#62 CRUSHER88
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@dynamitecop That's still a price drop no? The assumption is that the base PS4 will get a noticeable price drop as it is phased out (similar to the Xbox One). The end result might be the PS4 Slim being slightly cheaper than the current price of a PS4. I also don't think the Neo is going to drop the price of the other PS4's. The Neo is supposed to be a 4k capable machine, implying the use of a 4k TV. The target audience is not low price consumers to start. Although, I guess that depends exactly when the Neo is launching.

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#63 dynamitecop
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@superflyzero said:

Who cares how it looks? Some of you guys plan on marrying it or something?

Would you drive a dildo if it could get you to work and back home? Looks matter man, they always do.

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PS4 S is a dildo? >.<

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#65 blackace
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@chikenfriedrice said:

Very ordinary looking console....hopefully the Neo will be more pleasing to the eye.

True. Not really impressed by the design. Won't waste any money on that. Will get the PS4 Neo a year or so after it launches.

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#66 blackace
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@Heil68 said:

One sexy looking machine..yowza

Where?!?!? Maybe you meant this.

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#67  Edited By deactivated-5f26ef21d6f71
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Looks beautiful in my opinion. Though the original is a tad better looking. It's a Slim version, what more do you want? I wouldn't go far as calling it cheap. The PS3 Slim (2009) was beautiful when it came out and that's the version I bought.

If this PS4 Slim comes with at lease a 1-2TB HDD to compete with XO-S 2tb HDD, I might budge.

Also why are the front USB ports completely separated apart? Could this version support external HDD? One you can plug into the USB port on the far right, to make it more discreet? I would hope so.

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#68  Edited By Shewgenja
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@p3anut: I think the white is uggo as hell. Looks cheap, amateurish, and a dust/grime magnet. /puke

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#69 dynamitecop
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@KingsofQueens said:

Looks beautiful in my opinion. Though the original is a tad better looking. It's a Slim version, what more do you want? I wouldn't go far as calling it cheap. The PS3 Slim (2009) was beautiful when it came out and that's the version I bought.

If this PS4 Slim comes with at lease a 1-2TB HDD to compete with XO-S 2tb HDD, I might budge.

Also why are the front USB ports completely separated apart? Could this version support external HDD? One you can plug into the USB port on the far right, to make it more discreet? I would hope so.

Very doubtful, not only with the HDD space but the reasoning for the position of the USB ports, they likely have them separated due to internal hardware crammed in between.

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#70 intotheminx
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Why are Sony and MS releasing slims on top of more powerful consoles? Seems like a consumer fail.

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#71  Edited By gago-gago
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Sony always seem to downgrade their console when they release "updated" ones especially in the looks department. Just look at last gen, the last PS3 was the worst one. Not only they look bad but the quality of build and material downgrades as well. Can't say the same with Xbox though, at least they try to make theirs look pleasing while cutting down cost. Anyway, if the cost is significantly less, that's a good thing just as long it doesn't cause any problems. But I really really hope the NeO looks much better than this garbage.

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#72 lundy86_4
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The fact that this is real saddens me.

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#73 Heil68
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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@Shewgenja said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

@Heil68: Sexy? Lol you gotta be kidding... take your fanboy glasses off. It's awful.

Can you explain to me what is so offensive or awful about a black box separated by a thin section that inlets for USB plugs?

I mean, feel free to call it boring, uninspired, conservative, or drab all you want. Awful? ...awful?

It's all of those things... which classes it as awful I think. Sony can do much better than that.

Well I think its classy, elegant with a hint of sophistication. Wonder if it will will sell well and keep SONY as current gen 8 console leader??

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#74 gago-gago
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They added more useless lights to their controllers too. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RDFbLGEky8g

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#75 scatteh316
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Wonder if it'll have higher clocks like Xbone S.

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#76 inggrish
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@gago-gago: all other arguments aside, i actually like the new position for the light bar, means the colour will actually mean something, provided is not too bright

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#77  Edited By gago-gago
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@_Matt_ said:@gago-gago: all other arguments aside, i actually like the new position for the light bar, means the colour will actually mean something, provided is not too bright

It's not really a new position as there is still light at the front of the controller. Now there's light on top facing you. But hopefully that will be dimmable too but even it's dimmable, it's still bright and more lights may use up battery faster than ever now.

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#78 MirkoS77
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@emgesp said:
@davillain- said:

@emgesp: Sorry but when I see a person values there's stuff, even to a machine that happens to play games, I can respect that. Same reason if someone loves there Car to death when they clean it and wax it. It maybe a machine but that machine means more to that person. We Humans value what we think it's important to us, even a console gaming machine.

So you can only value something if its aesthetically pleasing?

Nothing wrong with placing value on something due exclusively to aesthetics. We do it all the time: art, cars, beauty, photography. Hell, some art costs millions due to it. If some value their consoles based purely on superficialities obviously they have their priorities largely misplaced, but icing on the cake should never be denied or belittled.

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#79 silversix_
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Of course it was real. As of late, almost every rumor is true lol. In my opinion, this is one of the ugliest consoles i have ever seen. Why is Sony asking me to pay $69 for PS4 and then torture my eyes with this turd? Why are you hurting me, Sony?

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#80  Edited By ronvalencia
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@scrollinglayers:

@scrollinglayers said:

I'll bet that the more powerful PS4K / Neo will keep the angular look of the original PS4, and as the latest rumor suggests, it'll be thicker and significantly heavier.

Reason being for Neo's rumored 10 lbs, would be the larger PSU and required cooling to keep its APU w/ 36 CU Polaris 10 GPU and overclocked Jaguar GPU cool.

PS4 Slim could indicate similar TSMC 16 nm FinFET update as Xbox One S e.g. HDR10, H.265 10 video playback and extra GPU power for extra HDR processing e.g. 1.83 TFLOPS to 1.92 TFLOPS..

XBO S has extra GPU power for HDR processing i.e. 1.31 TFLOPS to 1.4 TFLOPS.

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#81 dropthepj
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I think it looks great. Better than the original.

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#82  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Shewgenja said:

@p3anut: I think the white is uggo as hell. Looks cheap, amateurish, and a dust/grime magnet. /puke

There is a white PS3 Slim.

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#83 inggrish
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@gago-gago: oh. Well looks like it's gonna be a disco ball then... The battery shouldn't be impacted to any noticeable degree, you can probably keep one of those leds on for half a year on a single AA battery on its own. Wouldn't surprise me if the battery has been upgraded too

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#84 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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BRB throwing my PC out the window with my XB1 S.

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#86 The-A-Baum
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For $50 less than Xbox slim with no UHD or 4k it's a good price for anyone who has no interest in ever upgrading their TVs in the future. It's just a cheaper smaller version of the same thing out now.

Side by side I would go with the S. For existing Ps4 owners there is no reason to buy this at all. The target is entirely to new customers. Still why not wait for Neo or Scorpio?

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@the-a-baum said:

For $50 less than Xbox slim with no UHD or 4k it's a good price for anyone who has no interest in ever upgrading their TVs in the future. It's just a cheaper smaller version of the same thing out now.

Side by side I would go with the S. For existing Ps4 owners there is no reason to buy this at all. The target is entirely to new customers. Still why not wait for Neo or Scorpio?

Na I like thin things on my desk. The thinner the better, Thin Life, Thin Women, Thin Oreo's, Fat Free Milk.

**** big things. Day one for this slim. Sony has done it again.

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#88 ronvalencia
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@scrollinglayers said:

I'll bet that the more powerful PS4K / Neo will keep the angular look of the original PS4, and as the latest rumor suggests, it'll be thicker and significantly heavier.

Reason being for Neo's rumored 10 lbs, would be the larger PSU and required cooling to keep its APU w/ 36 CU Polaris 10 GPU and overclocked Jaguar GPU cool.

In terms of TDP, NEO Option A's 914 Mhz Polaris 10 36 CU and 2.1 Ghz Jaguar should be similar to the current PS4.

RX-480 has up to 1266 Mhz clock speed. FinFET PS4 Slim could satisfy year 2016 updates.

Do we have a confirmation for either NEO Option A or NEO Option B?

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#89 deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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Now the question is do I get this or the neo.

There was a rumor that the Neo might be 10 pounds, If so then they must've gone with their $500 model with beefy cooling.

Might just get the slim if it's $250.

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#90 Chutebox
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Looks the same. Coneole is pretty small to begin with

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#91 ronvalencia
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@Chozofication said:

Now the question is do I get this or the neo.

There was a rumor that the Neo might be 10 pounds, If so then they must've gone with their $500 model with beefy cooling.

Might just get the slim if it's $250.

If 10 pounds is true, it might indicate the following

1. NEO Option A ($399) with revised 2.8X perf/watt Polaris 10. RX-470 (4.9 TFLOPS) like results. The problem with RX-470 level GPU would be the Jaguar CPU. RX-470 is memory bandwidth constraining the GPU.

2. NEO Option B ($499) with upgraded CPU and which is similar to Scorpio SoC. Depending on PCB selection, memory bandwidth could range from RX-480 to R9-390X level. RX-470 level memory bandwidth with ZEN LP CPU + Polaris 10 36 CU would be silly i.e. wasting a lot FLOPS with crappy memory bandwidth..

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#92  Edited By deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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@ronvalencia: 10 pounds is Ps3 fat boy territory, i'd expect a Scorpio competitor with zen lite and more memory.

Then again we don't know if Scorpio will have Zen either.

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#93 lolzman
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Somebody uploaded PS4 Slim unboxing video on Youtube.

http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1267929

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#94 Messiahbolical-
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Only thing I care about: Will it actually have a Wifi card that supports 5.0ghz band? The OG PS4 not supporting 5.0ghz Wifi when my old ass iPhone 5 supports it really triggers me. Kind of like the PS3 not supporting Wireless N back in the day...

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#95 sailor232
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Looks alright, not a fan of how far apart the usb's are, or of the light bar on top of the controller, would be alright if they got rid of the light from the back of the controller for the bar on top but they haven't, now we have one more light source to worry about.

Waiting patiently to finally see what the Neo will be.

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#96  Edited By tormentos
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

It's all of those things... which classes it as awful I think. Sony can do much better than that.

Lemmings are pathetic they bought a console 3 years ago that looked like a freaking 80´s VCR and was weak as hell with a HUGE power brick and some how the slim PS4 look bad..hahahahahaa

99% of the people downplaying the looks of this machine here are confirmed Lemmings who basically hate anything PS.

@FastRobby said:

Hmm that's quite ugly, but so was every console they every made. I did like the PSP though.

Case in point.

Yeah because MS consoles have being a beauty...lol

The first one was huge with a horrible controller that only NBA players would feel at home with and never got a re design the 360 was huge and got one 5 years into the generation,and the xbox one look like an 80´s VCR..

This model look much better than the first one and people are on denial about it,all of the sudden the xbox one s has erased the 20 million ugly ass xbox one sold which are huge with a huge power brick and which non of you say anything about..lol

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#97 remiks00
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Meh

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#98  Edited By tormentos
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@dynamitecop said:

The original PS4 is much more attractive, and it's already small enough so I'm failing to see the appeal to this.

No is not and you people have downplay it as looking like an eraser..hahahaa

The fun thing is you people have miss how bad the xbox one look how huge it is and on top of that you have to carry with it a power brick which is 1/3 of the PS4 size...hahahaa

But considering that you are the fool who claim sony make the slim PS4 in 2 months to counter MS i don't expect you to say something different..

@dynamitecop said:

A lower price should already be implied for the existing device, it's only dropped $50 in nearly 3 year, Sony has price gouged because of their stance in the market.

Also not to mention Neo is being announced/launched so the price should fall naturally in that case as well.

That is funny the PS3 slim was $299 in 2009,when the xbox 360 elite was lower to $299 on August 2009,the elite XB360 carry a 120GB HDD just like the slim PS3 did,which release 1 month latter,the difference was that the xbox 360 didn't have blu-ray or free online play or even a cheap way to buy another HDD.

The PS3 went down in price more in 3 years than the xbox 360 went down the complete generation,specially for a model with HDD.

The $99 360 model was the core which started at $299 so it dropped $199 in like 8 years because it was at the end of the generation that it started to hit $99 and during black friday deals,so basically sony lower more the price of the PS3 in 3 years than the xbox 360 did in 8,oh not to mention the wii which was $50 less than a Elite 360 in 2009 and than a PS3 slim Nintendo basically refused to lower the price until sales started to stall.

The xbox 360 was cheaper to built than the PS3 by a considerable gap,and MS refuse for years to drop the price of the unit accordingly,yet you didn't say anything.

@dynamitecop said:

Would you drive a dildo if it could get you to work and back home? Looks matter man, they always do.

Really then how the fu** you bought a HUGE ugly ass xbox one with that huge power brick.? The xbox one look like an 8's VCR is not a good looking console at all.

But i guess that when it is your console of choice the ugly one it is ok.

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#99 darklight4
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I'm waiting for Neo. looks don't bother me I shove it under my tv and that's that.

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@tormentos said:

@FastRobby said:

Hmm that's quite ugly, but so was every console they every made. I did like the PSP though.

Case in point.

Yeah because MS consoles have being a beauty...lol

The first one was huge with a horrible controller that only NBA players would feel at home with and never got a re design the 360 was huge and got one 5 years into the generation,and the xbox one look like an 80´s VCR..

This model look much better than the first one and people are on denial about it,all of the sudden the xbox one s has erased the 20 million ugly ass xbox one sold which are huge with a huge power brick and which non of you say anything about..lol

That's your opinion. Style of consoles is purely based on taste, which can be different for anyone. There is no right, or wrong. I think it's ugly, you like it. You think consoles by Microsoft were ugly, I actually think the Xbox One was beautifully minimal (not as in small).