Eurogamer: Skyrim is shallow, boring. Dark Souls is captivating, intriguing

Tom Mcshea will make it big there at EG..... we all love tom! don't we

Lol, this should be fun.

96 > 89

I agree. I was way hooked on Dark Souls when I first started playing. Couldn't put it down

Skyrim on the other hand, while fun, just hasn't really been worth my time I've invested so far. All personal opinion of course.

Eurogamer has taste? good to know. agreed with them, it does look like a one messed up game

96 > 89

Austindro

meh, I love skyrim even if you can nitpick at it. Havent tried dark souls, but demons souls seemed kind of been there done that to me at the beginning. maybe Ill try it again but the first hour or so wasnt that interesting for me.

[QUOTE="Austindro"]

96 > 89

-Damien-

Don't really care. I like them both for their own reasons.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-07-telling-tales-skyrim-and-dark-souls-article-Damien-

In reference to eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-saboteur-aa-blog-entry and I quote.

"In the meantime, what we have is something that's new and genuinely exciting from a technical standpoint. We're seeing PS3 attacking a visual problem using a method that not even the most high-end GPUs are using."

Eurogamer didn't factor in AMD's developer.amd.com/gpu_assets/AA-HPG09.pdf

It was later corrected by Christer Ericson, director of tools and technology at Sony Santa Monica and I quote

"The screenshots may not be showing MLAA, and it's almost certainly not a technique as experimental as we thought it was, but it's certainly the case that this is the most impressive form of this type of anti-aliasing we've seen to date in a console game. Certainly, as we alluded to originally, the concept of using an edge-filter/blur combination isn't new, and continues to be refined.This document by Isshiki and Kunieda published in 1999 suggested a similar technique, and, more recently, AMD's Iourcha, Yang and Pomianowski suggested a more advanced version of the same basic idea".

AMD's Iourcha, Yang and Pomianowski's papers refers to developer.amd.com/gpu_assets/AA-HPG09.pdf

To quote AMD's paper

"This filter is the basis for the Edge-Detect Custom Filter AA driver feature on ATI Radeon HD GPUs".

Eurogamer's "not even the most high-end GPU are using" assertion IS wrong.

Agreed. Skyrim is pretty lame. Bethesda use the "carrot on a stick" method to fool people into thinking they're playing a huge epic game with a huge world to explore, when in reality 80% of the game are fetch quests and locations that offer nothing of interest.

Eurogamer has taste? good to know. agreed with them, it does look like a one messed up game

finalstar2007

[QUOTE="-Damien-"]http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-07-telling-tales-skyrim-and-dark-souls-articleronvalencia

In reference to eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-saboteur-aa-blog-entry and I quote.

"In the meantime, what we have is something that's new and genuinely exciting from a technical standpoint. We're seeing PS3 attacking a visual problem using a method that not even the most high-end GPUs are using."

Eurogamer didn't factor in AMD's developer.amd.com/gpu_assets/AA-HPG09.pdf

It was later corrected by Christer Ericson, director of tools and technology at Sony Santa Monica and I quote

"The screenshots may not be showing MLAA, and it's almost certainly not a technique as experimental as we thought it was, but it's certainly the case that this is the most impressive form of this type of anti-aliasing we've seen to date in a console game. Certainly, as we alluded to originally, the concept of using an edge-filter/blur combination isn't new, and continues to be refined.This document by Isshiki and Kunieda published in 1999 suggested a similar technique, and, more recently, AMD's Iourcha, Yang and Pomianowski suggested a more advanced version of the same basic idea".

AMD's Iourcha, Yang and Pomianowski's papers refers to developer.amd.com/gpu_assets/AA-HPG09.pdf

To quote AMD's paper

"This filter is the basis for the Edge-Detect Custom Filter AA driver feature on ATI Radeon HD GPUs".

Eurogamer's "not even the most high-end GPU are using" assertion IS wrong.

Uhh... This was probably your most random post ever.

Just sayin'. :P

Here in 'Merica, Skyrim has my vote for GOTY.

Eurogamer has taste? good to know. agreed with them, it does look like a one messed up game

finalstar2007

Most people would not agree, including me. My opinion Skyrim > Dark Souls. Metacritic's opinion Skyrim > Dark Souls. At the end of the day though these are all just opinions. The only people that are actually loosing are the ones who refuse to play either.

After reading what Skyrim is all about i know for sure that is not my cup of tea and i can see myself getting ridiculously bored with it, Dark Souls got me quite entertained for quite a few weeks.

Most people would not agree, including me. My opinion Skyrim > Dark Souls. Metacritic's opinion Skyrim > Dark Souls. At the end of the day though these are all just opinions. The only people that are actually loosing are the ones who refuse to play either.

DireOwl

After reading what Skyrim is all about i know for sure that is not my cup of tea and i can see myself getting ridiculously bored with it, Dark Souls got me quite entertained for quite a few weeks.

madsnakehhh

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"]

[QUOTE="-Damien-"]http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-12-07-telling-tales-skyrim-and-dark-souls-articletheuncharted34

In reference to eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-saboteur-aa-blog-entry and I quote.

"In the meantime, what we have is something that's new and genuinely exciting from a technical standpoint. We're seeing PS3 attacking a visual problem using a method that not even the most high-end GPUs are using."

Eurogamer didn't factor in AMD's developer.amd.com/gpu_assets/AA-HPG09.pdf

It was later corrected by Christer Ericson, director of tools and technology at Sony Santa Monica and I quote

"The screenshots may not be showing MLAA, and it's almost certainly not a technique as experimental as we thought it was, but it's certainly the case that this is the most impressive form of this type of anti-aliasing we've seen to date in a console game. Certainly, as we alluded to originally, the concept of using an edge-filter/blur combination isn't new, and continues to be refined.This document by Isshiki and Kunieda published in 1999 suggested a similar technique, and, more recently, AMD's Iourcha, Yang and Pomianowski suggested a more advanced version of the same basic idea".

AMD's Iourcha, Yang and Pomianowski's papers refers to developer.amd.com/gpu_assets/AA-HPG09.pdf

To quote AMD's paper

"This filter is the basis for the Edge-Detect Custom Filter AA driver feature on ATI Radeon HD GPUs".

Eurogamer's "not even the most high-end GPU are using" assertion IS wrong.

Uhh... This was probably your most random post ever.

Just sayin'. :P

The point, Eurogamer's info can be wrong.

[QUOTE="DireOwl"]

Most people would not agree, including me. My opinion Skyrim > Dark Souls. Metacritic's opinion Skyrim > Dark Souls. At the end of the day though these are all just opinions. The only people that are actually loosing are the ones who refuse to play either.

funsohng

Weird, looks like this Rich Stanton feller might be a black sheep. :P

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="DireOwl"]

Most people would not agree, including me. My opinion Skyrim > Dark Souls. Metacritic's opinion Skyrim > Dark Souls. At the end of the day though these are all just opinions. The only people that are actually loosing are the ones who refuse to play either.

DireOwl

Weird, looks like this Rich Stanton feller might be a black sheep. :P

[QUOTE="DireOwl"]

Most people would not agree, including me. My opinion Skyrim > Dark Souls. Metacritic's opinion Skyrim > Dark Souls. At the end of the day though these are all just opinions. The only people that are actually loosing are the ones who refuse to play either.

funsohng

Most people would not agree, including me. My opinion Skyrim > Dark Souls. Metacritic's opinion Skyrim > Dark Souls. At the end of the day though these are all just opinions. The only people that are actually loosing are the ones who refuse to play either.

DireOwl

eurogamer is the worst, and I'm not just saying that because of their wrong opinion in this case.

A lot of their reviews contain atrocious writing.

Wow someone really likes dodging my questions. It's happened twice now.

[QUOTE="DireOwl"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"] And in Eurogamer, it's also Skyrm (10) > Dark Souls (9)....funsohng

Weird, looks like this Rich Stanton feller might be a black sheep. :P

I does a little bit. Narrative and world exploration are some the key features in WRPGs and the author is saying more or less he prefers Dark Souls in these categories. I kinda see what your typing to though. He never says that Dark Souls > Skyrim or the like.

[QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

After reading what Skyrim is all about i know for sure that is not my cup of tea and i can see myself getting ridiculously bored with it, Dark Souls got me quite entertained for quite a few weeks.

realguitarhero5

What!? Do you come to SW often!? :P

Agreed. Skyrim is pretty lame. Bethesda use the "carrot on a stick" method to fool people into thinking they're playing a huge epic game with a huge world to explore, when in reality 80% of the game are fetch quests and locations that offer nothing of interest.

Peredith

Wait, so, Skyrim doesn't have a huge open world?:o

[QUOTE="realguitarhero5"][QUOTE="madsnakehhh"]

After reading what Skyrim is all about i know for sure that is not my cup of tea and i can see myself getting ridiculously bored with it, Dark Souls got me quite entertained for quite a few weeks.

MLBknights58

What!? Do you come to SW often!? :P

They are both equally overrated in my humble opinion.

They are both equally overrated in my humble opinion.

Masculus

Eh... not exactly what I was going to say, but close.

Both were equally fun, for me and any RPG fan. Skyrim is spread a bit more thin but also bigger and more addicting, yet Dark Souls is more captivating and polished and creative.

Both are great, and I actually like to pretend I'm playing the same characters in both game. Just, Dark Souls is what happens in his nightmares and Skyrim is the waking hours of my character, and considering how I'm a thief in both games and look the same in both games, it totally works out for me.

Both are very good. Choosing between them is too hard

What a misleading title. The article is specifically about the narrative capabilities of the two games. In fact, in Eurogamer, Skyrim is 10 and Dark Souls is 9.funsohng

I see what you mean now when you once said people ignore your posts, friend. :P

Anyway

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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Eurogamer has taste? good to know. agreed with them, it does look like a one messed up game

Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Eurogamer has taste? good to know. agreed with them, it does look like a one messed up game

Da_lil_PimP

I enjoyed Both.

[QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Did you even play skyrim? And can you prove that you did?Animal-Mother

As someone else pointed later on in the topic he didn't because Demon Soul was too hard.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"] He hasn't even played Dark Souls.archvile_78

As someone else pointed later on in the topic he didn't because Demon Soul was too hard.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Da_lil_PimP"] He hasn't even played Dark Souls.archvile_78

As someone else pointed later on in the topic he didn't because Demon Soul was too hard.

I agree. Although, its a preference that depends on whether you like the vagueness of Dark Souls or the more direct approach of Skyrim. Both are good in their own ways.

[QUOTE="archvile_78"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] AHAHAHAHAH you're kidding me right?Animal-Mother

As someone else pointed later on in the topic he didn't because Demon Soul was too hard.

Oh i know, i'm the same way. If i usually see a post that interest me, i normally quote it right away. ;D

and lol, i know right?

though I like skyrim, that is true. for once i agree with eurogamer