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#151 ramen613
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Despite the phenomenal Wii sales, the third party support is the worst Nintendo has ever received. Soul Calibur 4 was announced for the 360 and PS3, but NOT the Wii. Last time SC went multiplat, it found a home on the Nintendo console but not this generation. Another major example is Resident Evil 5. You won't see any of these games due to lack of power and lack of good controls. Good graphics correlate with good gameplay 80% of the time.AHUGECAT

Yep Wii is not getting Soul Calibur 4 but a Soul Calibur EXCLUSIVE and NOT SOME MULTIPLAT

Uh I'd rather have a multiplat than some spin-off that'll score 5.5.

dude again dont judge a book by its cover
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#152 monkey-squable
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the controls didnt stop the games. especially RE 5. RE 4 plays awesome on the wiimote. the hardware costed Nintendo multiplats. basically the Wii is a secondary console IMO. It more or less isnt gonna be anyones primary system.

THe primary will be PC, 360, or PS3. With the Wii being the secondary, and get majority playtime only when the big favorite 1st/2nd party games come.jg4xchamp
the wii is my primary system
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#153 TreyoftheDead
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AHUGECAT, I am dissapointed with you. You should know that it's not only phenomal graphics that the games GTA4, Assassins Creed, Bioshock, and most likely Resident Evil 5 can't be made on the Wii. It's alot more than just graphics. Think CPU.

AHUGECAT

Good point. The Wii just can't handle great games.

Whether a game is great or not is totally subjective.

For example, the new Harry Potter game for the Wii scored a 5.0 here on Gamespot, but personlly I think it's a great game. Zelda: OoT scored 10.0 here at GS and while I love the game to death, there are people who can't stand it.

As I just said, gaming is an extremely subjective medium, all that really matters is that you are having fun. Right? :)

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#154 magiciandude
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="emawk"]

AHUGECAT, I am dissapointed with you. You should know that it's not only phenomal graphics that the games GTA4, Assassins Creed, Bioshock, and most likely Resident Evil 5 can't be made on the Wii. It's alot more than just graphics. Think CPU.

ramen613

Good point. The Wii just can't handle great games.

so smg mp3 ssbb no more heros nights2 tales wii disaster day of crysis scl re:uc fire emblem mario strikers opoona project ryger mushroom men ffcc arnt good games but seriously just because you dont like the wii and its games doesnt mean other people(like me)wont like them

Pah, they're all just ports and mini-games.

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#155 ramen613
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[QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Spin-offs mean almost nothing (if the main series isn't on the console).AHUGECAT



And what is preventing them from being good games?

What are you a n00b?

Spin-offs always suck. World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy Tactics, and Super Mario RPG prooved this.

Soul Calibur Legends should just be renamed Death By Degrees 2 while RE: UC should be renaimed Dead Aim 2.

If you hype a frickin rail shooter more than the sequel to RE4, that is just pure fanboyism. You can if you want, your choice, though.

no its more like pure opinion and please dont tell people what to hype and what not to
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#156 magiciandude
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[QUOTE="osbassgordo"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Despite the phenomenal Wii sales, the third party support is the worst Nintendo has ever received. Soul Calibur 4 was announced for the 360 and PS3, but NOT the Wii. Last time SC went multiplat, it found a home on the Nintendo console but not this generation. Another major example is Resident Evil 5. You won't see any of these games due to lack of power and lack of good controls. Good graphics correlate with good gameplay 80% of the time.AHUGECAT

Yep Wii is not getting Soul Calibur 4 but a Soul Calibur EXCLUSIVE and NOT SOME MULTIPLAT

Uh I'd rather have a multiplat than some spin-off that'll score 5.5.

What makes youjump into conclusion that it'll be 5.5? Other than your baseless opinions?

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#157 ramen613
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="emawk"]

AHUGECAT, I am dissapointed with you. You should know that it's not only phenomal graphics that the games GTA4, Assassins Creed, Bioshock, and most likely Resident Evil 5 can't be made on the Wii. It's alot more than just graphics. Think CPU.

TreyoftheDead

Good point. The Wii just can't handle great games.

Whether a game is great or not is totally subjective.

For example, the new Harry Potter game for the Wii scored a 5.0 here on Gamespot, but personlly I think it's a great game. Zelda: OoT scored 10.0 here at GS and while I love the game to death, there are people who can't stand it.

As I just said, gaming is an extremely subjective medium, all that really matters is that you are having fun. Right? :)

yes thank you for your logic
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#158 ramen613
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="osbassgordo"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Despite the phenomenal Wii sales, the third party support is the worst Nintendo has ever received. Soul Calibur 4 was announced for the 360 and PS3, but NOT the Wii. Last time SC went multiplat, it found a home on the Nintendo console but not this generation. Another major example is Resident Evil 5. You won't see any of these games due to lack of power and lack of good controls. Good graphics correlate with good gameplay 80% of the time.magiciandude

Yep Wii is not getting Soul Calibur 4 but a Soul Calibur EXCLUSIVE and NOT SOME MULTIPLAT

Uh I'd rather have a multiplat than some spin-off that'll score 5.5.

What makes youjump into conclusion that it'll be 5.5? Other than your baseless opinions?

thank you
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#159 monkey-squable
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[QUOTE="BuryMe"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="norfair_dweller"]

Wii games have gotten 9s in graphics.

Riviera_Phantom

For Wii games. Let's face it - the Wii will NEVER have games like Gears of War, Half-Life 2, Resistance, Uncharted, etc. etc. due to lack of power and a good controller.

there's nothing wrong with the wiimote :|

it can play pretty much any genre

Stop being so blind. How on earth will you play games like Ninja Gaiden on Wii? you would need a physically impossible control scheme or dumb as hell AI.

i know youre a wii hater because you have a ps3 and you have nothing else better to do except flame on the wii because youre lackluster ken kutaragi copied what the wii is doing and turned it into crap

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#160 monkey-squable
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[QUOTE="Dencore"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Spin-offs mean almost nothing (if the main series isn't on the console).AHUGECAT



And what is preventing them from being good games?

What are you a n00b?

Spin-offs always suck. World of Warcraft, Final Fantasy Tactics, and Super Mario RPG prooved this.

Soul Calibur Legends should just be renamed Death By Degrees 2 while RE: UC should be renaimed Dead Aim 2.

If you hype a frickin rail shooter more than the sequel to RE4, that is just pure fanboyism. You can if you want, your choice, though.

get a life

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#161 Eponique
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Whatever, this thread fails. The TC is acting like Soul Calibur Ledgends will score 1 just because it's a spin-off. GameSpot scores games for what they are, not what other games are!

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#162 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="osbassgordo"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Despite the phenomenal Wii sales, the third party support is the worst Nintendo has ever received. Soul Calibur 4 was announced for the 360 and PS3, but NOT the Wii. Last time SC went multiplat, it found a home on the Nintendo console but not this generation. Another major example is Resident Evil 5. You won't see any of these games due to lack of power and lack of good controls. Good graphics correlate with good gameplay 80% of the time.magiciandude

Yep Wii is not getting Soul Calibur 4 but a Soul Calibur EXCLUSIVE and NOT SOME MULTIPLAT

Uh I'd rather have a multiplat than some spin-off that'll score 5.5.

What makes youjump into conclusion that it'll be 5.5? Other than your baseless opinions?

It's a Wii third party game - a spin-off from a Namco fighting series.

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#163 magiciandude
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It's a Wii third party game - a spin-off from a Namco fighting series.AHUGECAT

That's it?

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#164 Funkyhamster
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Probably because they have to build games ground-up for the Wii, because its hardware is so different... multiplats (at least straight ports) are going to be hard to find on the Wii once the PS2 dies off.
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#165 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="Riviera_Phantom"][QUOTE="BuryMe"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="norfair_dweller"]

Wii games have gotten 9s in graphics.

monkey-squable

For Wii games. Let's face it - the Wii will NEVER have games like Gears of War, Half-Life 2, Resistance, Uncharted, etc. etc. due to lack of power and a good controller.

there's nothing wrong with the wiimote :|

it can play pretty much any genre

Stop being so blind. How on earth will you play games like Ninja Gaiden on Wii? you would need a physically impossible control scheme or dumb as hell AI.

i know youre a wii hater because you have a ps3 and you have nothing else better to do except flame on the wii because youre lackluster ken kutaragi copied what the wii is doing and turned it into crap

Actually I'm a lemming but thank you very much.

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[QUOTE="magiciandude"][QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="osbassgordo"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Despite the phenomenal Wii sales, the third party support is the worst Nintendo has ever received. Soul Calibur 4 was announced for the 360 and PS3, but NOT the Wii. Last time SC went multiplat, it found a home on the Nintendo console but not this generation. Another major example is Resident Evil 5. You won't see any of these games due to lack of power and lack of good controls. Good graphics correlate with good gameplay 80% of the time.AHUGECAT

Yep Wii is not getting Soul Calibur 4 but a Soul Calibur EXCLUSIVE and NOT SOME MULTIPLAT

Uh I'd rather have a multiplat than some spin-off that'll score 5.5.

What makes youjump into conclusion that it'll be 5.5? Other than your baseless opinions?

It's a Wii third party game - a spin-off from a Namco fighting series.

Oh man That's right Gamespot scores games based on where they came from and what console they are on... not how good they are.

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#167 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]It's a Wii third party game - a spin-off from a Namco fighting series.magiciandude

That's it?

Why the heck should I hype it more than 6.0. Remember Death By Degrees? Btw the lack of experience of the adventure genre from the developers is seen in SCIII.

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#168 AHUGECAT
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Oh man That's right Gamespot scores games based on where they came from and what console they are on... not how good they are.

GundamGuy0

It's a Wii third party game, so that's already bad news.

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#169 magiciandude
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[QUOTE="magiciandude"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]It's a Wii third party game - a spin-off from a Namco fighting series.AHUGECAT

That's it?

Why the heck should I hype it more than 6.0. Remember Death By Degrees? Btw the lack of experience of the adventure genre from the developers is seen in SCIII.

So because one game didn't so well means that this one won't either?

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#170 magiciandude
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

Oh man That's right Gamespot scores games based on where they came from and what console they are on... not how good they are.

AHUGECAT

It's a Wii third party game, so that's already bad news.

Oh noez! :roll:

This is probably the funniest arguement I have ever heard! :lol:

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#171 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="magiciandude"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]It's a Wii third party game - a spin-off from a Namco fighting series.magiciandude

That's it?

Why the heck should I hype it more than 6.0. Remember Death By Degrees? Btw the lack of experience of the adventure genre from the developers is seen in SCIII.

So because one game didn't so well means that this one won't either?

Pretty much, yes. The lack of experience will hurt it.

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#172 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"][QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

Oh man That's right Gamespot scores games based on where they came from and what console they are on... not how good they are.

magiciandude

It's a Wii third party game, so that's already bad news.

Oh noez! :roll:

This is probably the funniest arguement I have ever heard! :lol:

Third parties just put trash on the Wii.

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#173 magiciandude
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Pretty much, yes. The lack of experience will hurt it.AHUGECAT

Is that the best you can come up with?

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#174 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Pretty much, yes. The lack of experience will hurt it.magiciandude

Is that the best you can come up with?

I have every reason to believe the game will be garbage, and not any good.

- The developers lack of experience in the genre (as seen in SCIII and Death By Degrees)
- It's a spin-off, and only high profile spin-offs are any good
- It's a Wii third party game, so there will be very little effort put into the game

It's just obvious this game is not going to be good. It's desperation to say SCL is "awesome third party support."

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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"] Oh man That's right Gamespot scores games based on where they came from and what console they are on... not how good they are.AHUGECAT
It's a Wii third party game, so that's already bad news.

Just like how Madden 07 faultered here...

...:|

...Wait! :o

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#176 ramen613
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[QUOTE="GundamGuy0"]

Oh man That's right Gamespot scores games based on where they came from and what console they are on... not how good they are.

AHUGECAT

It's a Wii third party game, so that's already bad news.

so a third party game on the wii means its a bad game you dont have the right to acuess any body of fanboyism
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#177 iamshivy
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it's probably because the wii doesnt even have a controler to play the game with but insteed has a dvd remote.plus the graphics are craptakuler.. what im trying to say is,i think the wii just sucks.
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#178 StealthedRogue
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Despite the phenomenal Wii sales, the third party support is the worst Nintendo has ever received. Soul Calibur 4 was announced for the 360 and PS3, but NOT the Wii. Last time SC went multiplat, it found a home on the Nintendo console but not this generation. Another major example is Resident Evil 5. You won't see any of these games due to lack of power and lack of good controls. Good graphics correlate with good gameplay 80% of the time.AHUGECAT

The Wii is getting Umbrella Chronicals though, it's not up to RE5 standards, but it really looks great.

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#179 magiciandude
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Third parties just put trash on the Wii.AHUGECAT

Like the following games?

  • No More Heroes
  • Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Crystal Bearers
  • Opoona
  • Residen Evil 4: Wii Edition
  • Rayman Raving Rabbids
  • Sonic and the Secret Rings
  • Elebits
  • Trauma Center: Second Opinion
  • King Story
  • SSX Blur
  • Dragon Quest Swords
  • Project 'S'
  • Project Rygar

...

I could go on and on, but all I'll get is "All games suck/I'm not interested in those games" response, am I right? And all you'll do is post a list of bad games for the Wii, correct?To which I'll respond that no one really gives a **** about them just like how no one cares about the badgames for the 360 and PS3. :|

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#180 AHUGECAT
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Third parties just put trash on the Wii.magiciandude

Like the following games?

  • No More Heroes
  • Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Crystal Bearers
  • Opoona
  • Residen Evil 4: Wii Edition
  • Rayman Raving Rabbids
  • Sonic and the Secret Rings
  • Elebits
  • Trauma Center: Second Opinion
  • King Story
  • SSX Blur
  • Dragon Quest Swords
  • Project 'S'
  • Project Rygar

...

I could go on and on, but all I'll get is "All games suck/I'm not interested in those games" response, am I right? And all you'll do is post a list of bad games for the Wii, correct?To which I'll respond that no one really gives a **** about them just like how no one cares about the badgames for the 360 and PS3. :|

What a horrible list. Elebits, Opoonoa? Rayman MiniGames Rabbids? The only games that are any good is Sonic and RE4 which is 2 years old anyways.

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#181 ramen613
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[QUOTE="magiciandude"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Pretty much, yes. The lack of experience will hurt it.AHUGECAT

Is that the best you can come up with?

I have every reason to believe the game will be garbage, and not any good.

- The developers lack of experience in the genre (as seen in SCIII and Death By Degrees)
- It's a spin-off, and only high profile spin-offs are any good
- It's a Wii third party game, so there will be very little effort put into the game

It's just obvious this game is not going to be good. It's desperation to say SCL is "awesome third party support."

1 i will go with you on that one for know 2 false if developers put alot of effort in the game it can be better than the main game 3 read number 2 and its also fanboyism and also zack and wiki are getting praised by ign and started a campain and told people to pre ordered it now and it is a third party title
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#182 ramen613
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it's probably because the wii doesnt even have a controler to play the game with but insteed has a dvd remote.plus the graphics are craptakuler.. what im trying to say is,i think the wii just sucks.iamshivy
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#183 magiciandude
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What a horrible list. Elebits, Opoonoa? Rayman MiniGames Rabbids? The only games that are any good is Sonic and RE4 which is 2 years old anyways.

AHUGECAT

I didn't see that one coming. :roll:

Really though, I was just disproving about third party games being trash on the Wii. Sure there's a lot of 3rd partybad games for the Wii, but AT THE SAME TIME, there are decent 3rd party games for the Wii. You basically said that 3rd party games are bad on the Wii, meaning that ALL are.

Sorry, you lose.

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#184 ramen613
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[QUOTE="magiciandude"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Third parties just put trash on the Wii.AHUGECAT

Like the following games?

  • No More Heroes
  • Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Crystal Bearers
  • Opoona
  • Residen Evil 4: Wii Edition
  • Rayman Raving Rabbids
  • Sonic and the Secret Rings
  • Elebits
  • Trauma Center: Second Opinion
  • King Story
  • SSX Blur
  • Dragon Quest Swords
  • Project 'S'
  • Project Rygar

...

I could go on and on, but all I'll get is "All games suck/I'm not interested in those games" response, am I right? And all you'll do is post a list of bad games for the Wii, correct?To which I'll respond that no one really gives a **** about them just like how no one cares about the badgames for the 360 and PS3. :|

What a horrible list. Elebits, Opoonoa? Rayman MiniGames Rabbids? The only games that are any good is Sonic and RE4 which is 2 years old anyways.

iyo not to anybody else except illogical fanboys
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#185 kage_53
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And the only reason SC2 sold on the GC is because of Link.
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#186 ramen613
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[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Third parties just put trash on the Wii.magiciandude

Like the following games?

  • No More Heroes
  • Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Crystal Bearers
  • Opoona
  • Residen Evil 4: Wii Edition
  • Rayman Raving Rabbids
  • Sonic and the Secret Rings
  • Elebits
  • Trauma Center: Second Opinion
  • King Story
  • SSX Blur
  • Dragon Quest Swords
  • Project 'S'
  • Project Rygar

...

I could go on and on, but all I'll get is "All games suck/I'm not interested in those games" response, am I right? And all you'll do is post a list of bad games for the Wii, correct?To which I'll respond that no one really gives a **** about them just like how no one cares about the badgames for the 360 and PS3. :|

you forgot zack and wiki which to me beats most of the 360 games
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#187 Shinobishyguy
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And the only reason SC2 sold on the GC is because of Link.kage_53
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#188 AHUGECAT
Member since 2006 • 8967 Posts
[QUOTE="magiciandude"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Third parties just put trash on the Wii.ramen613

Like the following games?

  • No More Heroes
  • Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Crystal Bearers
  • Opoona
  • Residen Evil 4: Wii Edition
  • Rayman Raving Rabbids
  • Sonic and the Secret Rings
  • Elebits
  • Trauma Center: Second Opinion
  • King Story
  • SSX Blur
  • Dragon Quest Swords
  • Project 'S'
  • Project Rygar

...

I could go on and on, but all I'll get is "All games suck/I'm not interested in those games" response, am I right? And all you'll do is post a list of bad games for the Wii, correct?To which I'll respond that no one really gives a **** about them just like how no one cares about the badgames for the 360 and PS3. :|

you forgot zack and wiki which to me beats most of the 360 games

I'll be honest and admit I am looking forward to Zack and Wiki.

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#189 Pdiddy105
Member since 2007 • 4577 Posts

us sheep dont care about those generic next gen games.

De Blob and Dewey's Adventure >>>>>>>> GTA 4, DMC4, COD4, Assassins Creed, Soul Calibur 4, Left 4 Dead, Turok, RE5,etc 8)

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#190 magiciandude
Member since 2004 • 9667 Posts
[QUOTE="magiciandude"]

[QUOTE="AHUGECAT"]Third parties just put trash on the Wii.ramen613

Like the following games?

  • No More Heroes
  • Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles Crystal Bearers
  • Opoona
  • Residen Evil 4: Wii Edition
  • Rayman Raving Rabbids
  • Sonic and the Secret Rings
  • Elebits
  • Trauma Center: Second Opinion
  • King Story
  • SSX Blur
  • Dragon Quest Swords
  • Project 'S'
  • Project Rygar

...

I could go on and on, but all I'll get is "All games suck/I'm not interested in those games" response, am I right? And all you'll do is post a list of bad games for the Wii, correct?To which I'll respond that no one really gives a **** about them just like how no one cares about the badgames for the 360 and PS3. :|

you forgot zack and wiki which to me beats most of the 360 games

I didn't forget it, I just didn't want to waste time posting a list of games only to have someone say "horrible list".

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#191 ramen613
Member since 2007 • 621 Posts

us sheep dont care about those generic next gen games.

ssbb and zack and wiki smg mp3:c no more heros nights2 tales wii > GTA 4, DMC4, COD4, Assassins Creed, Soul Calibur 4, Left 4 Dead, Turok, RE5,etc 8)

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#192 zh666
Member since 2005 • 5068 Posts
[QUOTE="Pdiddy105"]

us sheep dont care about those generic next gen games.

ssbb and zack and wiki smg mp3:c no more heros nights2 tales wii > GTA 4, DMC4, COD4, Assassins Creed, Soul Calibur 4, Left 4 Dead, Turok, RE5,etc 8)

ramen613

other than RE5, I agree with this statement and then some...

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#193 lordlors
Member since 2004 • 6128 Posts
Maybe Soul Calibur 4 was planned for the PS3, Xbox 360 before it was announced and maybe before the unveiling and success of the wii. as i said before, multiplat games such as CoD4, SC IV, RE 5 require great graphics and maybe were planned in the beginning for the PS3 and Xbox360 because the devs thought the wii wouldnt be successful. The Wii hardware is very complicated especially with motion sensing. It is very hard for them to make or port these games to the wii hence there are spinoffs such as SCL, RE:UC,etc. Its some sort of experiment for them to study the wii hardware and in the future make better and great games with great graphics and motion controls. Got it?