Even though Resident Evil 4 was a masterpiece...

[QUOTE="JetB1ackNewYear"]I dont understand how anyone can be a true fan of RE if they say that they only liked 4? the orignals were classics and always will be. i wish they went back to 1,2 and 3 those were great games.L1qu1dSword

I havnt seen a single person state that. Me for example, I played 0, 1 and 2( didnt bother with the others because i was sick of the format) and I think 4 is superior in pretty much every way.

So this entire time you've been arguing, and you haven't played ALL the REs? Correct me if I'm wrong, but you did state you played all the other REs a couple of pages back?

Anyway, are people that idiotic that they found the controls that mind-numbingly "difficult"? I don't mean to sound disrespectful to anyone, but these complaints about the "controls being to hard" is just getting ridiculous, it takes literally like 5-10 minutes to get used to.

[QUOTE="L1qu1dSword"]

[QUOTE="JetB1ackNewYear"]I dont understand how anyone can be a true fan of RE if they say that they only liked 4? the orignals were classics and always will be. i wish they went back to 1,2 and 3 those were great games.alwayspureblood

I havnt seen a single person state that. Me for example, I played 0, 1 and 2( didnt bother with the others because i was sick of the format) and I think 4 is superior in pretty much every way.

So this entire time you've been arguing, and you haven't played ALL the REs? Correct me if I'm wrong, but you did state you played all the other REs a couple of pages back?

Anyway, are people that idiotic that they found the controls that mind-numbingly "difficult"? I don't mean to sound disrespectful to anyone, but these complaints about the "controls being to hard" is just getting ridiculous, it takes literally like 5-10 minutes to get used to.

It wasnt difficult the controls just started feeling clunky and dated. The new controls are vastly superior but to me the old format of puzzles and survival horror was vastly superior. Mix the two together and you get gaming bliss.

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="IronBass"]

I also didn't say it was a survival horror game. It is an action/adventure game with some minor horror aspects (what actually I like more than a truly survival horror with crappy controls).

IronBass

Wouldn't you mean camera angles? The controls are exactly the same, the only difference is the POV you play in. I prefer the new camera angle as well, and also the revamped aiming system.

The camera angle also affected the controls (example, left is not always "move left"). Also the aiming is different (not auto aiming), but yeah, the camera angle was the main problem. RE4 was a truly savior of the franchise IMO.

The franchise didnt need saving. Just because you couldnt get your head around the controls doesnt make them crappy. RE4 is a fantastic action game. Just a pity its taken the RE name.

That's why I said "IMO", because for me controls were really crappy. After finishing RE3, I was so tired of them that I didn't even try Code Veronica. That's why the franchise was lost for me. RE 4 saved the franchise for me.

Just because you're more of a FPS gamer(which I can tell based on your gamer card, and your approval of RE4) doesn't mean that a game has "crappy controls" or the franchise was "lost", its just not your cup of tea apparently, thats all.

Just because you're more of a FPS gamer(which I can tell based on your gamer card, and your love for RE) doesn't mean that a game has "crappy controls" or the franchise was "lost", its just not your cup of tea apparently, thats all.

alwayspureblood

IMO, "In My Opinion" the controls were crappy. FOR ME the franchise was lost because I didn't want to play another RE game again. Of course, I know a lot of people who actually liked the controls and could have played more RE games with the same scheme.

And actually, the only First Person game I own is Bioshock, that is not exactly a "shooter" (you can play with the wrench the whole game, what is more fun than shooting). No Halo nor CoD4. Not every 360 owner is a FPS lover.

Anyway, are people that idiotic that they found the controls that mind-numbingly "difficult"? I don't mean to sound disrespectful to anyone, but these complaints about the "controls being to hard" is just getting ridiculous, it takes literally like 5-10 minutes to get used to.

alwayspureblood

Agreed, you could get used to them after a while, but that didn't make them good or fun to play with, IMO of course.

Here's how it works, based on what I've seen in this thread:

Resident Evil 4 is a great video game, but a bad Resident Evil game (hmm). If Resident Evil 4 had been called something like 'Resident Evil: Plagas Files" then it would have been accepted by hardcore RE fans (petty semantical mind games FTW). If you like Resident Evil 4 better than the other Resident Evils, for any reason, then you are an RE4 noob who didn't play or didn't enjoy playing the original games (funny, I loved the originals).

If you disagree with any of the psychotic, foaming at the mouth RE fanboyism being posted in this thread, then you are an RE n00b who supports the casualisation of the series, and plays too many shooter games.

How am I doing so far?

I don't know, I never really look at RE games and expect to have fun, I expect to be frightened. Resident Evil 4 gave me that fun factor while losing the fright. In all honestly, I'm fine with RE4, sure I wish it fell more clearly into the overall story, but I still enjoyed the game. I think the older REs got me too used to an eerie enviorment with scary creatures, for me, the most Resident Evil-esque creature/enviorment in RE4 was a Regenerator and the hospital/lab facilities.

And I meant to put a "/TPS" because you do have Gears on your card.

I don't know, I never really look at RE games and expect to have fun, I expect to be frightened. Resident Evil 4 gave me that fun factor while losing the fright. In all honestly, I'm fine with RE4, sure I wish it fell more clearly into the overall story, but I still enjoyed the game. I think the older REs got me too used to an eerie enviorment with scary creatures, for me, the most Resident Evil-esque creature/enviorment in RE4 was a Regenerator and the hospital/lab facilities.

And I meant to put a "/TPS" because you do have Gears on your card.

alwayspureblood

You'd have been right, 'cause I love TPS. :)

And I gotta agree that RE4 was not scary, but, IMO, despite that, a better game.

Of course, if you were searching for some scary moments, RE4 was not a good option.

EDIT: Also, I agree that RE$ with more places like the hospital would have been even better. Those moments were epic.

It wasnt difficult the controls just started feeling clunky and dated. The new controls are vastly superior but to me the old format of puzzles and survival horror was vastly superior. Mix the two together and you get gaming bliss.

6matt6

Here's how it works, based on what I've seen in this thread:

Resident Evil 4 is a great video game, but a bad Resident Evil game (hmm). If Resident Evil 4 had been called something like 'Resident Evil: Plagas Files" then it would have been accepted by hardcore RE fans (petty semantical mind games FTW). If you like Resident Evil 4 better than the other Resident Evils, for any reason, then you are an RE4 noob who didn't play or didn't enjoy playing the original games (funny, I loved the originals).

If you disagree with any of the psychotic, foaming at the mouth RE fanboyism being posted in this thread, then you are an RE n00b who supports the casualisation of the series, and plays too many shooter games.

How am I doing so far?

jethrovegas

What it is is that RE4 is accepted as a great game, but not a great Resident Evil game. Thats because its an action title, not a survival horror title. If someone says they like RE4 better than previous RE games, all it proves is that they basically prefer action games to survival horror games. It doesnt make them a n00b.

Here's how it works, based on what I've seen in this thread:

Resident Evil 4 is a great video game, but a bad Resident Evil game (hmm). If Resident Evil 4 had been called something like 'Resident Evil: Plagas Files" then it would have been accepted by hardcore RE fans (petty semantical mind games FTW). If you like Resident Evil 4 better than the other Resident Evils, for any reason, then you are an RE4 noob who didn't play or didn't enjoy playing the original games (funny, I loved the originals).

If you disagree with any of the psychotic, foaming at the mouth RE fanboyism being posted in this thread, then you are an RE n00b who supports the casualisation of the series, and plays too many shooter games.

How am I doing so far?

jethrovegas

[QUOTE="6matt6"]

It wasnt difficult the controls just started feeling clunky and dated. The new controls are vastly superior but to me the old format of puzzles and survival horror was vastly superior. Mix the two together and you get gaming bliss.

club-sandwich

Yes and thats relevant because?

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Here's how it works, based on what I've seen in this thread:

Resident Evil 4 is a great video game, but a bad Resident Evil game (hmm). If Resident Evil 4 had been called something like 'Resident Evil: Plagas Files" then it would have been accepted by hardcore RE fans (petty semantical mind games FTW). If you like Resident Evil 4 better than the other Resident Evils, for any reason, then you are an RE4 noob who didn't play or didn't enjoy playing the original games (funny, I loved the originals).

If you disagree with any of the psychotic, foaming at the mouth RE fanboyism being posted in this thread, then you are an RE n00b who supports the casualisation of the series, and plays too many shooter games.

How am I doing so far?

club-sandwich

very off, very off indeed

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Here's how it works, based on what I've seen in this thread:

Resident Evil 4 is a great video game, but a bad Resident Evil game (hmm). If Resident Evil 4 had been called something like 'Resident Evil: Plagas Files" then it would have been accepted by hardcore RE fans (petty semantical mind games FTW). If you like Resident Evil 4 better than the other Resident Evils, for any reason, then you are an RE4 noob who didn't play or didn't enjoy playing the original games (funny, I loved the originals).

If you disagree with any of the psychotic, foaming at the mouth RE fanboyism being posted in this thread, then you are an RE n00b who supports the casualisation of the series, and plays too many shooter games.

How am I doing so far?

club-sandwich

I think he was pretty accurate.

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="6matt6"]

It wasnt difficult the controls just started feeling clunky and dated. The new controls are vastly superior but to me the old format of puzzles and survival horror was vastly superior. Mix the two together and you get gaming bliss.

6matt6

Yes and thats relevant because?

[QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="6matt6"]

It wasnt difficult the controls just started feeling clunky and dated. The new controls are vastly superior but to me the old format of puzzles and survival horror was vastly superior. Mix the two together and you get gaming bliss.

club-sandwich

Yes and thats relevant because?

I happen to dislike the newer COD's. Be more specific next time.

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Here's how it works, based on what I've seen in this thread:

Resident Evil 4 is a great video game, but a bad Resident Evil game (hmm).

-Everything right so far.-

If Resident Evil 4 had been called something like 'Resident Evil: Plagas Files" then it would have been accepted by hardcore RE fans (petty semantical mind games FTW).

-Way off, the Zombies to me weren't such a big loss as the loss of the survival elements, atmosphere, etc, everything that made RE what it was, but I still would like to see zombies instead of this possessed people.-

If you like Resident Evil 4 better than the other Resident Evils, for any reason, then you are an RE4 noob who didn't play or didn't enjoy playing the original games (funny, I loved the originals).

-No, the RE noobs are the guys that played RE4 first and claim to be fans of the series, and then play the previous games and say they suck because they weren't like RE4, I'll respect veteran players opinions, not this so called "fans" that say the previous RE games sucked--

If you disagree with any of the psychotic, foaming at the mouth RE fanboyism being posted in this thread, then you are an RE n00b who supports the casualisation of the series, and plays too many shooter games.

-previous post apply here.-

How am I doing so far?

IronBass

I think he was pretty accurate.

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="6matt6"][QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="6matt6"]

It wasnt difficult the controls just started feeling clunky and dated. The new controls are vastly superior but to me the old format of puzzles and survival horror was vastly superior. Mix the two together and you get gaming bliss.

6matt6

Yes and thats relevant because?

I happen to dislike the newer COD's. Be more specific next time.

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Here's how it works, based on what I've seen in this thread:

Resident Evil 4 is a great video game, but a bad Resident Evil game (hmm). If Resident Evil 4 had been called something like 'Resident Evil: Plagas Files" then it would have been accepted by hardcore RE fans (petty semantical mind games FTW). If you like Resident Evil 4 better than the other Resident Evils, for any reason, then you are an RE4 noob who didn't play or didn't enjoy playing the original games (funny, I loved the originals).

If you disagree with any of the psychotic, foaming at the mouth RE fanboyism being posted in this thread, then you are an RE n00b who supports the casualisation of the series, and plays too many shooter games.

How am I doing so far?

REforever101

very off, very off indeed

Explain it to me.

im excited about re5, but i like to view it as a seperate game series from the other entries in the series. i mean, re4 is fun when you dont view it like an re game

REforever101

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

I see.

If RE4 had been called 'Resident Evil: Plagas Files' or something like that, would you (and others like you, of which there seem to be a good few) have sooner accepted the game?

REforever101

meh, probably

like, we have no problems with re:uc...

oh, and not to mention that re4 really is just a spin off. the plot has nothing to do with anything that came before it. even leon and ada are far different from how they once were

[QUOTE="web966"]I hate the old ones. Terrible controls.shadyd1717

noob.

Yeah I really don''t see the point anymore arguing with all these RE4 noobs. :(club-sandwich

No, seriously guys, explain it to me. I want to know.

Because I played the old RE games, and I loved the old RE games; I just love RE4 more than the old ones, and I don't have to pretend that it is a spinoff title in order to feel that way. You know I like you guys, club-sandwich and REforever101, I have sided with each of you in several debates, if I remember correctly.

But right now I feel like you (and others) are being rather petty and fanboyish about this whole matter.

No, seriously guys, explain it to me. I want to know.

Because I played the old RE games, and I loved the old RE games; I just love RE4 more than the old ones, and I don't have to pretend that it is a spinoff title in order to feel that way. You know I like you guys, club-sandwich and REforever101, I have sided with each of you in several debates, if I remember correctly.

But right now I feel like you (and others) are being rather petty and fanboyish about this whole matter.

jethrovegas

Seems my last post noone cared to read.

Basically whoever ISNT RE veteran , are the ones that saying previous RE games had terrible controls... I think you started with RE4 , and you found RE1 and 2 outdated. How not to since are 10 years old games.

The storyline and scenario of RE4 and this SCI-FI parasite shooter it became , would be FAR more acceptable as a SIDE game than the fourth installment of RE.. I mean , even Code Veronica , a side RE game , was far more original to the lore and the story of RE than RE4... A village in Spain , presidents daughter!! , parasites takes over humans , mother parasite controls the other parasites , they transform theirselfs at will and return to their human form again... I mean , WTF has that to do with the original lore and story ALL previous games had. Even RE zero stayed true to the story...

Brainless humans , ppl with chainsaws , ppl like death himself etc... Was that a RE game that amazed you? Sorry , not for me and all the other veterans.

Now with RE5 the story continues of one of the same parasites as RE4 take over Africa.. Now except chainsaw man youll have the Axe man... Come on... Thic could easily be a new IP or a side RE game. Whoever started playing RE since RE1 knows exactly what i mean. Ofc i will buy it , ofc ill have good time with it ,,, But just admit that RE isnt what it used to be. Lost its feeling , its magic. End of story.

Its the progenitor virus, not Las Plagas in RE5. Last I heard.alwayspureblood

Yeah , big difference from what weve seen..... in action!! Come on...

Yeah, I agree that RE is not what it used to be, but I like the new one more (and I'm an old RE fan, that started with the first one, not the fourth one.)

Yeah, I agree that RE is not what it used to be, but I like the new one more (and I'm an old RE fan, that started with the first one, not the fourth one.)

IronBass

So you like action games more than survival horror? That was my point. I have no problem with that, but people saying the old RE games were crap because of camera angles or whatever are just not survival horror fans.

No, seriously guys, explain it to me. I want to know.

Because I played the old RE games, and I loved the old RE games; I just love RE4 more than the old ones, and I don't have to pretend that it is a spinoff title in order to feel that way. You know I like you guys, club-sandwich and REforever101, I have sided with each of you in several debates, if I remember correctly.

But right now I feel like you (and others) are being rather petty and fanboyish about this whole matter.

jethrovegas

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Here's how it works, based on what I've seen in this thread:

Resident Evil 4 is a great video game, but a bad Resident Evil game (hmm).

-Everything right so far.-

If Resident Evil 4 had been called something like 'Resident Evil: Plagas Files" then it would have been accepted by hardcore RE fans (petty semantical mind games FTW).

-Way off, the Zombies to me weren't such a big loss as the loss of the survival elements, atmosphere, etc, everything that made RE what it was, but I still would like to see zombies instead of this possessed people.-

If you like Resident Evil 4 better than the other Resident Evils, for any reason, then you are an RE4 noob who didn't play or didn't enjoy playing the original games (funny, I loved the originals).

-No, the RE noobs are the guys that played RE4 first and claim to be fans of the series, and then play the previous games and say they suck because they weren't like RE4, I'll respect veteran players opinions, not this so called "fans" that say the previous RE games sucked--

If you disagree with any of the psychotic, foaming at the mouth RE fanboyism being posted in this thread, then you are an RE n00b who supports the casualisation of the series, and plays too many shooter games.

-previous post apply here.-

How am I doing so far?club-sandwich

Not much.

here.

[QUOTE="IronBass"]

Yeah, I agree that RE is not what it used to be, but I like the new one more (and I'm an old RE fan, that started with the first one, not the fourth one.)

-DrRobotnik-

So you like action games more than survival horror? That was my point. I have no problem with that, but people saying the old RE games were crap because of camera angles or whatever are just not survival horror fans.

I've never said the first REs were crap, I said that imo the controls were crap. The athmosphere and great puzzles made the games more than worthy. But with time, I just got tired of the controls, and the new RE, with less horror athmosphere (but still great athmosphere, despite not being fully horrific) and controls I loved is better for me.

I'm a survivol horror fan, just that Capcom never made an horrific game with decent controls, that would have been perfect.

I don't think RE4 should have been as long as it was, story wise, because it didn't really tell you much of anything. Ada's Seperate Ways told me more about the story than Leon's story did. I guess its because Leon's objective wasn't really relevant to the original RE plot and Ada's objective did. -shrug-alwayspureblood

I think people who like the original RE's over 4 got the short stick. Almost everyone who really enjoyed 4 didn't like the first RE's and if they had taken 4 out of the RE franchise a lot of people would have been happier because not everyone (including myself) likes RE4 very much. It's just like every other shooter in the world and takes a dump on the name "Survival Horror" (they hand you ammo and it's not nearly as scary as the others)

btw anyone with either brains or who have played past RE's knows they are not crappy. Those who say that maybe don't understand the puzzles?

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="IronBass"]

Yeah, I agree that RE is not what it used to be, but I like the new one more (and I'm an old RE fan, that started with the first one, not the fourth one.)

IronBass

So you like action games more than survival horror? That was my point. I have no problem with that, but people saying the old RE games were crap because of camera angles or whatever are just not survival horror fans.

I've never said the first REs were crap, I said that imo the controls were crap. The athmosphere and great puzzles made the games more than worthy. But with time, I just got tired of the controls, and the new RE, with less horror athmosphere (but still great athmosphere, despite not being fully horrific) and controls I loved is better for me.

I'm a survivol horror fan, just that Capcom never made an horrific game with decent controls, that would have been perfect.

That wasnt necessarily directed at you. And the control scheme is part of what makes a survival horror game. You're supposed to feel slower and underpowered. In RE4, i didnt get any of that.

[QUOTE="Veterngamer"]

RE: Code Veronica >>>>>> RE2 >>>> RE4

imo.

Code Veronica was crazy good.

TecmoGirl

In your opinion? No, that's not even necessary to say. It's a fact!(well ok not really)--but "Resident Evil: Code Veronica" was and still is the true masterpiece among "Resident Evil" games in my eyes. At one point, I thought it was Resident Evil 4 without the actual "4" in the title before I learned what a side game truely was.

I never played it :(

Well it looks like I better go to ebay to find a copy.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="IronBass"]

Yeah, I agree that RE is not what it used to be, but I like the new one more (and I'm an old RE fan, that started with the first one, not the fourth one.)

-DrRobotnik-

So you like action games more than survival horror? That was my point. I have no problem with that, but people saying the old RE games were crap because of camera angles or whatever are just not survival horror fans.

I've never said the first REs were crap, I said that imo the controls were crap. The athmosphere and great puzzles made the games more than worthy. But with time, I just got tired of the controls, and the new RE, with less horror athmosphere (but still great athmosphere, despite not being fully horrific) and controls I loved is better for me.

I'm a survivol horror fan, just that Capcom never made an horrific game with decent controls, that would have been perfect.

That wasnt necessarily directed at you. And the control scheme is part of what makes a survival horror game. You're supposed to feel slower and underpowered. In RE4, i didnt get any of that.

That wasnt necessarily directed at you. And the control scheme is part of what makes a survival horror game. You're supposed to feel slower and underpowered. In RE4, i didnt get any of that.-DrRobotnik-

Well, I think that almost everyone here agrees that RE4 is not a survival horror game. Not a traditional one, at least. i'd say is an action/adventure game (more action) with some minor horror elements and athmosphere.

I don't agree with that is the control scheme what makes an horror game. I believe that RE1, 2 , 3 etc would have been better with the camera angle and controls of RE4. What made RE4 an action game weren't the controls, but the athmosphere, the ammount of ammo/healing items you get and that you spent the most time shooting.

gamestop has a used copy of code veronica for like 8 bucks.alwayspureblood

For which system? And which version was the best?

RE: Code Veronica >>>>>> RE2 >>>> RE4

imo.

Code Veronica was crazy good.

Veterngamer

[QUOTE="alwayspureblood"]gamestop has a used copy of code veronica for like 8 bucks.FireEmblem_Man

For which system? And which version was the best?

i'm happy with what we got

the change of location was refreshing

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="Saturos3091"][QUOTE="IronBass"]

I also didn't say it was a survival horror game. It is an action/adventure game with some minor horror aspects (what actually I like more than a truly survival horror with crappy controls).

IronBass

The camera angle also affected the controls (example, left is not always "move left"). Also the aiming is different (not auto aiming), but yeah, the camera angle was the main problem. RE4 was a truly savior of the franchise IMO.

The franchise didnt need saving. Just because you couldnt get your head around the controls doesnt make them crappy. RE4 is a fantastic action game. Just a pity its taken the RE name.

That's why I said "IMO", because for me controls were really crappy. After finishing RE3, I was so tired of them that I didn't even try Code Veronica. That's why the franchise was lost for me. RE 4 saved the franchise for me.

Same here as a matter of fact only I stopped with 2 and gave it another try with 0( which I never finished).

[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="alwayspureblood"]gamestop has a used copy of code veronica for like 8 bucks.club-sandwich

For which system? And which version was the best?

I think people who like the original RE's over 4 got the short stick. Almost everyone who really enjoyed 4 didn't like the first RE's and if they had taken 4 out of the RE franchise a lot of people would have been happier because not everyone (including myself) likes RE4 very much. It's just like every other shooter in the world and takes a dump on the name "Survival Horror" (they hand you ammo and it's not nearly as scary as the others)

btw anyone with either brains or who have played past RE's knows they are not crappy. Those who say that maybe don't understand the puzzles?

WINDWAKER1

I don't see why inteligence is required to overlook or tolerate an awful control scheme.

[QUOTE="club-sandwich"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="alwayspureblood"]gamestop has a used copy of code veronica for like 8 bucks.GARRYTH

For which system? And which version was the best?

To anyone who incorrectly states RE4 is neither a RE game or Survival Horror:

Opinion of ordinary person: RE4 was good but not quite what I hoped.

Same opinion stated by rabid, irrational, overdrammatic fanboy : RE4 is a defilement! It is not a RE game and it is not survival horror.

Rational Answer: Whether you like it or not it IS a RE game and IS survival horror. It is different because what we were are seeing will later be remembered as the time period when the young genre of survival horror broadened. Once upon a time an RPG was known only as table top dice rolling but look how widely that genre broadened. Genres are not a scientific definition and will allways evolove. The evololution in this case has allready occured and the small minority of detractors won't change this one bit with your futile denial.

Saturos pointed out how RE4 had incorporated western influences as opposed to Japanese. Based on the precedents set by the RPG genre one might imagine the genre splitting into "Western SH" and "Japanese SH" WSH and JSH just like JRPG and WRPG. Any way you look at it you cannot sensibly say it is not survival horror. The premise remains completely intact.

I've played every main story RE game and loved everyone of them (including 4) with the exception of zero, which I thought sucked. butteater86

ah dude, you didn't like zero?

zero wasn't exactly my favorite either, but I still liked it a lot. I thought the cooperative puzzles were pretty interesting (like when you have to figure out how to get billy out of that room on the train and you need to switch back and forth between the two to figure it out) and I liked a lot of the newer enemies. Except those damn monkeys and those leech zombies that you had to kill with fire. I hated those things

my only real problem with re0 was that constantly being with a partner somewhat reduces the impact of some of the scares. But on the flip side, it makes the few parts where you have to be alone much creepier