Evil Within - worst designed survival horror game!

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#1  Edited By soapandbubbles
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Evil Within is one of the worst designed survival horror games that i can remember. From the horrid weak recycled RE4 A.I, horrid enemy designs, laughable story, poor animations, broken combat, laughable upgrade system, boring protagonist, shocking camera, collecting green goo, too many unexplained moments, overuse of blood due to the lack of scare-factor...i could go on. The game feels beyond cheap and looks to be designed by amateurs...

How did shinji go from RE4 to this?

Evil Within is influenced by many different games/ideas...yet manages to fuk it all up, it just doesn't know what it wants to be and just throws it all together because its what one would consider scary..without much thought. "hey look, it doesn't have to make sense, it's just disgusting OK?"

5/10

P.S - Father of survival horror my arse. Naughty Dog with Last of Us has raised the bar on what a survival game should evolve too, be... and play like. It's funny cause Evil Within plays like a poor mans Last of Us...just broken in every way possible.

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#2 mems_1224
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Well, Resident Evil has always sucked. Including 4.

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#4 speedfreak48t5p
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Cool story bro.

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#5 Lulu_Lulu
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I don't know... But President Evil 4 is not as good as you think it is.

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#6 millerlight89
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Easily one of the best horror games in recent memory.

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#7 soapandbubbles
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@millerlight89 said:

Easily one of the best horror games in recent memory.

where's your argument?

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#8 Roler42
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You said RE4 was horrible and then turned around and claimed Mikami went from RE4 to this...

Wich one is it?

also can't wait to try out this game :) the more people hate it, the more i'm looking forward to it, it's kinda clear you were not the intended audience

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#9 Kaze_no_Mirai
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The last of us was survival horror? I can see where you'd get survival... But horror??

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#10 soapandbubbles
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@Kaze_no_Mirai said:

The last of us was survival horror? I can see where you'd get survival... But horror??

If you read again, i never said TLOU is horror...just survival. Tho it does have some Horror moments, IMO.

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#11 Kaze_no_Mirai
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@soapandbubbles: Yeah I missed that part, haha. Thanks for clearing it up.

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#12  Edited By soapandbubbles
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@roler42 said:

You said RE4 was horrible and then turned around and claimed Mikami went from RE4 to this...

Wich one is it?

also can't wait to try out this game :) the more people hate it, the more i'm looking forward to it, it's kinda clear you were not the intended audience

You referring to the dated recycled RE4 a.i used in a 2014 game?

For it's time...RE4 was an almost perfect game, but 10 years later..shinji recycling similar slow and predictable A.I among other things in his next gen game is sad. And what he did to make it some what more challenging was introduce a weak/broken combat system to balance it out. Rather than improving the A.I and making them more faster or aggressive, etc...it's weak and poor design. He lacks creativity/talent. Just look at the variety in The Last of US...sad he couldn't work with that...or even with the better A.I in the Reremake with the crimson heads, etc.

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#13 FoxbatAlpha
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So wait. Does this game suck or not?

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#14 Krelian-co
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Well, i liked it.

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#15 wolverine4262
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Idk, man. The game made @freedomfreak cry like a little bitch. Must have done its job.

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#16 soapandbubbles
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@FoxbatAlpha said:

So wait. Does this game suck or not?

Why post?

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#17 millerlight89
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@soapandbubbles said:

@millerlight89 said:

Easily one of the best horror games in recent memory.

where's your argument?

I don't need one. I thought it was great, you think it is shit. What is the point in arguing? I mean, this is blog material to begin with and you just want an argument. I'm not going to give you that satisfaction.

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#18 jg4xchamp
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Resident Evil 4 is still a terrific game, this admittedly isn't. But the atmosphere, the pacing, the encounter designs are all top notch.

Frankly it's a mixture of two things for Shinji

A: the game simply isn't as dot its i's and cross its t's the way RE4 is
B: the PC horror games of today done by frictional games and the things being done in Alien Isolation to me is just better.

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#19 Lulu_Lulu
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@soapandbubbles

Whatever Variety The Last Of Us had was stifled by its survival elements. What good are smoke bombs and Molotov cocktails if you never have any to spare ?

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#20 Krelian-co
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@soapandbubbles

Whatever Variety The Last Of Us had was stifled by its survival elements. What good are smoke bombs and Molotov cocktails if you never have any to spare ?

man you really do suck at games, no wonder you hate hard games.

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#21 funsohng
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@soapandbubbles said:

@millerlight89 said:

Easily one of the best horror games in recent memory.

where's your argument?

Umm... that is his argument.

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#22 Salt_The_Fries
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It's worrying me since I wanted to trade Alien Isolation for TEW and yesterday a person whose opinion I respect said something along these lines too. Now I don't know...

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#24  Edited By psx_warrior
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@mems_1224 said:

Well, Resident Evil has always sucked. Including 4.

Resident Evil 4 was the best of them. Really, it's the only one that I actually completed. You do know it's not meant to be a traditional shooter, don't you?

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#25  Edited By GTSaiyanjin2
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Its a game I had been looking forward to all year long, but I think I'll wait for it to go on sale on steam, or find it cheap on the PS4. It looks like a fun game to play, but nothing groundbreaking. And its performance on all systems leaves a lot to be desired.

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#26 Ghost120x
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This game was the best thing to happen during this shitty year full of flops. Sure It has some questionable design choices, but still a very enjoyable game. Give tango a few more years and they will get the quality up to where Capcom used to be, just look at Platinum games.

The minute the TC mentioned naughty dogs I knew this was going to be a fail.

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#27  Edited By AznbkdX
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Game is great. Probably one of the funnest games that has come out this year. Even surpasses tlou in that factor.

It has technical flaws, the story is way out there (maybe if you think about it more it might be approachable but so far I haven't looked too hard into it), the characters aside from maybe Ruvik are just there and there are a few things that are inconsistent (some chapters not as good as other chapters, gun zombies, etc.)so its not perfect. The inconsistency in particular is usually fine when there are so many fantastic scenarios in the game.

It did need some more time in the oven to fix its issues, but I would not call the game bad. Survival horror... I guess it is considered one of the worst compared to the likes of REmake since I would say its more action oriented, but it still beats the hell out of RE 5/6 and even at times RE4 if we are going to compare. With no genre taken too seriously into account though its a great game imo.

Really hoping they make a sequel or something.

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#28  Edited By Ballroompirate
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All I see is pointless ******* and complaining

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#29 JRPGaretrash
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@Ballroompirate said:

All I see is pointless ******* and complaining

because its fake horror game like resident evil series

try amnesia or system shock 2 if u want real horror. not fake like resident evil, dead space.

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#30 AznbkdX
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@Ghost120x: Yep. Really hoping they take another crack at this with less constraints. They got a good thing going here imo, even if it may just be a "Mikami's best" album. I see no problem in this though haha.

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Idk, man. The game made @freedomfreak cry like a little bitch. Must have done its job.

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#32 KillzoneSnake
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If RE4 was released today it would not get the 96 mc it has. To me RE4 is just as good as it was 2005. The problem is 10 years later the world has changed... today people are more casual, more into mindless no challenge games. When i play a beast game like Vanquish i could careless about the story, i care about playing that beast game on god mode!!! If Evil Within was released 10 years ago scores would be higher, AND WE WOULDNT HAVE DUMB REVIEWS COMPLAINING THE GAME IS TOO HARD! xD

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#33 Alucrd2009
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well it depend of how you define survival horror , for me as a fan of resident evil and silent hill , i like the evil within its compo of r4 and silent hill , i m not that in the game only 4 hours , but still i like the game , the only complain i see is the story , its not that deep .

every designer has his perspective to draw a game , but if you compare a 3rd person game action to this for sure , TLOS will win .. this is my opinion take it or leave it :)

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#34 Lulu_Lulu
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@KillzoneSnake

Depends on whats making the game hard, I can tell you onething thats for certain, if a zombie game is difficult then ithere must be something really wrong with it. I just can't recognize idiot Zombies being any more than a nuisance.

All the more reason to look into Alien Isolation.

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#35 Salt_The_Fries
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I highly recommend you Alien Isolation if you're looking for truly something else. It's also got a lengthy campaign.

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#36 hehe101
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alien isolation is the new horror in town

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#37 Salt_The_Fries
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So i want to know: is the game ugly? Is the story ridIculous POS? Does the game recycle

10 year old mechanics?

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#38  Edited By FoxbatAlpha
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@soapandbubbles said:

@FoxbatAlpha said:

So wait. Does this game suck or not?

Why post?

Da fuk you mean why post? It seems everyone is torn to it sucking or it being great. I want some answers. I was planning on getting it but now i don't know.

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#39  Edited By soapandbubbles
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@Salt_The_Fries said:

So i want to know: is the game ugly? Is the story ridIculous POS? Does the game recycle

10 year old mechanics?

it's an ugly POS...especially concerning story...it's beyond ridiculous...trust me. RE4 plays better in gunplay and even animations...it's that bad. how they managed to fuk it up this much is beyond me, it's mind boggling.

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#40  Edited By skunkgp1
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The evil within is great, resident evil 1-3 were great, if you don't like it go play something else and stop burning on them. I think

so far in the game the story is intriguing, and the graphics are

terrifically beautiful. Just don't go around stating your opinion

as truth, dumb people will believe dumb statements, and

posting stuff like this ruins a chance for a sequel for those of us who did like the game. Anyone who hasn't tried it your going to have to give it a chance, it seems to be a love/ hate situation here, so in conclusion it's a good game that's why people love it, but there are things about it that have caused some people to hate it, but that does not justify ever saying it's a "bad" game, and definatly far from being the worst anything.

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#41 skunkgp1
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@skunkgp1: damn iPad keyboard editing please forgive the broken lines.

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#42  Edited By Roler42
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@soapandbubbles: Never played the last of us, every time people talk about that game is either about the lesbians DLC or how great the plot is, i don't even know what the gameplay is like in TLOU outside of having shootouts with bums

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#43  Edited By GrenadeLauncher
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It's not really a survival horror game. Which is funny because Mikami wanted to make a survival horror game. Instead he made an RE4 clone.

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#44 clyde46
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@soapandbubbles

Whatever Variety The Last Of Us had was stifled by its survival elements. What good are smoke bombs and Molotov cocktails if you never have any to spare ?

Its a survival game man, you know where society has been wiped out... Can't nip down to the local Tesco to get more.

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#46 Lulu_Lulu
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I'm not just talking about Ammo. The game is also limited on mechanics. Compared to other games theres really not alot of things you can do.

BTW, They only go for realism when it suits them. Truth be told, the lack of Resources only made the game less realistic.

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#47 Lulu_Lulu
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@clyde46

But you can harvest from the badies you kill. Theres a buttload of them and I find it hard to believe they are always limited on Resources. Hell they all seem to be part of a large social network.

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#49 skunkgp1
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@scottpsfan14: ha, he isn't very bright now is he? He probably only plays assassins creed, or gta where there has to be a million side quests spread through the world, or cod where everything goes boom boom.

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#50 cfisher2833
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Well now, see your problem is that you're not playing Legend of Grimrock II. Game is insanely good.