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#1 ShadowMoses900
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Each system has those exclusive game(s) that make people want to buy the system. Yes exclusives do matter and thinking otherwise is silly, without exclusives there is no reason to buy that system. I hear alot of people on here recently saying that they are happy with the 360 current position and say that "exclusives don't matter" and they try (the key word is try here)to justify it by saying that they get PCgames which are "exclusive" (their words not mine) and that they have "teh superiorz multiplats" which anyone who is not a fanboy knows that is just laughable.

360 owners should demand more, they deserve more, and MS should listen. MS has ALL this money but they don't use it to secure 1st partydevs,so what are they using it on then? Kinect most likely which I don'tthink that's what the 360fanbase really wants. I know MS is making a new Halogame but come on,Halo is good and all but I think the 360owners deserve more than just one or two franchise games. Butwhat I don't understand is why do(some) 360 owners defend this? They don't act like this is an issue but if your system isn't getting exclusives anymore then there isn't really a reason to own it anymore is there? Why would someone buy a system just to play multiplats? No one would and your lyingto yourself if you thinkotherwise.

360 has Halo as it's flagship game, this is the reason why people bought the system.

PS3 has Uncharted and MGS4 as thier flagship games, this is why people bought the system.

Wii has Mario and Zelda as their flagship games, this is why people bought the system. (though it could be argued all the Wii needs is Mario)

The point is that exclusives do matter and always have and always will. And trying to sugar coat and downplay what MS is doing currently is wrong. You guys deserve more, whenever something bad happens to any part of the gaming community, even if that part isn't my prefrence, I still feel for those guys.

Sorry for the long post btw, but I keep seeing people saying "exclusives don't matter" and I can't belive what I am hearing when they say that.

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#2 Lexter45
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Of course exclusives matter. It's the reason I bought my Wii and 360 and don't want a PS3. It's one of the deciding points when people buy a system.

Why wouldn't they matter? :|

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#4 NeonNinja
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Exclusives matter. Not to the extent that some people say that they do, but the people that say exclusives don't matter are also incorrect.

Quality exclusives really do help in making that ultimate purchase decision. I wanted Halo, I bought 360. Simple as that.

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#5 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Of course they do. A catalog of exclusives is what makes your system stand out from the competition. Nintendo's exclusives, in fact, single handedly manage to keep their systems afloat even in the a solute absence of third party support, as with the Wii.
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I was going to answer seriously, but then I saw char's signature. :lol:
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#7 glez13
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True, they differenciate one platform from the other. Just look at Nintendo, the N64 only floated because of the exclusives. While the GC had multiplats most didn't chose it as the platform to have them and the exclusives saved the day again. With the Wii again the exclusives made the thing float(just that this time it got a huge leverage with the initial impact of the motion control gimmick-hook, making it the first gen were the winner doesn't have the best library).

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I was going to answer seriously, but then I saw char's signature. :lol:Blabadon

Yeah, that sig is cIassic.

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I was going to answer seriously, but then I saw char's signature. :lol:Blabadon

lol yeah he's cool like that ;)

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#10 Masculus
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It does looks like for Microsoft it doesn't.

Everybody is either playing CoD, Halo or Fifa anyway.

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#11 foxhound_fox
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Well of course they do... until the person considering the lineup has no interest in them.
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#12 nameless12345
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3rd party exclusives are dying out tho. I guess next-gen will be all about 1st party exclusives and the rest will be multi-plats.

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Of course they matter, still just a small part of a library. But yeah, i couldnt pass without my Halo, Gears and Forza series.

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#14 Badosh
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Yeah sure they matter, that's why I don't have a ps3...
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ya they do.

360 getting dark souls didnt do the ps3 any favors.

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#16 QQabitmoar
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Who said the don't matter? lol. The only reason to buy a console, really, since every single multiplat is a full gen ahead on the PC.

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#17 nameless12345
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The only reason to buy a console, really, since every single multiplat is a full gen ahead on the PC.

QQabitmoar

Rage is one gen behind on the PC, looking at how much problems it has :P

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#18 ShadowMoses900
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Who said the don't matter? lol. The only reason to buy a console, really, since every single multiplat is a full gen ahead on the PC.

QQabitmoar

Alot of 360 owners are saying that exclusives don't matter. There was a thread the other day about how an offical xbox magazine said that MS has let 360 onwers down in exclusives, and there were alot of 360 owners saying that "Exclusives don't matter" and some of them were saying that the Witcher 2 is a 360 exclusive even though it isn't because you can also play it on PC which is the superior version.

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Microsoft knows they will sell a ton of systems regardless because of Call of Duty and Kinect. They occasionally throw a high quality exclusive (Gears 3, Forza 4) out there to keep 360 core gamers happy. Carrot on a stick...and people fall for it.
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Each system has those exclusive game(s) that make people want to buy the system. Yes exclusives do matter and thinking otherwise is silly, without exclusives there is no reason to buy that system. I hear alot of people on here recently saying that they are happy with the 360 current position and say that "exclusives don't matter" and they try (the key word is try here)to justify it by saying that they get PCgames which are "exclusive" (their words not mine) and that they have "teh superiorz multiplats" which anyone who is not a fanboy knows that is just laughable.

360 owners should demand more, they deserve more, and MS should listen. MS has ALL this money but they don't use it to secure 1st partydevs,so what are they using it on then? Kinect most likely which I don'tthink that's what the 360fanbase really wants. I know MS is making a new Halogame but come on,Halo is good and all but I think the 360owners deserve more than just one or two franchise games. Butwhat I don't understand is why do(some) 360 owners defend this? They don't act like this is an issue but if your system isn't getting exclusives anymore then there isn't really a reason to own it anymore is there? Why would someone buy a system just to play multiplats? No one would and your lyingto yourself if you thinkotherwise.

360 has Halo as it's flagship game, this is the reason why people bought the system.

PS3 has Uncharted and MGS4 as thier flagship games, this is why people bought the system.

Wii has Mario and Zelda as their flagship games, this is why people bought the system. (though it could be argued all the Wii needs is Mario)

The point is that exclusives do matter and always have and always will. And trying to sugar coat and downplay what MS is doing currently is wrong. You guys deserve more, whenever something bad happens to any part of the gaming community, even if that part isn't my prefrence, I still feel for those guys.

Sorry for the long post btw, but I keep seeing people saying "exclusives don't matter" and I can't belive what I am hearing when they say that.

ShadowMoses900

why would any company pour a ton of dev resources into an system that is about to be replaced?

thinking that ms is going to keep up what they have done in the past and also get a launch line up for the nextbox ready is either just pie-in-the-sky optimism or just an excuse to gripe at them because you are emotionally attached to some other system.

how am i supposed to complain about the line up of an obsolete system and take myself seriously afterwards?

hmm, ok let me try one and see first though maybe i'm wrong about the whole thing.

me: "omg! i'm mad! the holiday 2012 lineup is terrible! the 360's 7th year looks bad! how can they not develop big large budget AAA games that take years to produce for their 7 year old system??? how??"

nope sorry, it didn't work.

it just sounded foolish to expect a company to bust their *** to make games for a creaky old obsolete system. oh, well i tried. you all saw it.

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#21 anshul89
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Exclusives for consoles matter a lot. This whole year I've spent only a couple of hours on the 360 with the Forza 4 demo :| (and it was a massive flop on top of that)

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#22 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Each system has those exclusive game(s) that make people want to buy the system. Yes exclusives do matter and thinking otherwise is silly, without exclusives there is no reason to buy that system. I hear alot of people on here recently saying that they are happy with the 360 current position and say that "exclusives don't matter" and they try (the key word is try here)to justify it by saying that they get PCgames which are "exclusive" (their words not mine) and that they have "teh superiorz multiplats" which anyone who is not a fanboy knows that is just laughable.

360 owners should demand more, they deserve more, and MS should listen. MS has ALL this money but they don't use it to secure 1st partydevs,so what are they using it on then? Kinect most likely which I don'tthink that's what the 360fanbase really wants. I know MS is making a new Halogame but come on,Halo is good and all but I think the 360owners deserve more than just one or two franchise games. Butwhat I don't understand is why do(some) 360 owners defend this? They don't act like this is an issue but if your system isn't getting exclusives anymore then there isn't really a reason to own it anymore is there? Why would someone buy a system just to play multiplats? No one would and your lyingto yourself if you thinkotherwise.

360 has Halo as it's flagship game, this is the reason why people bought the system.

PS3 has Uncharted and MGS4 as thier flagship games, this is why people bought the system.

Wii has Mario and Zelda as their flagship games, this is why people bought the system. (though it could be argued all the Wii needs is Mario)

The point is that exclusives do matter and always have and always will. And trying to sugar coat and downplay what MS is doing currently is wrong. You guys deserve more, whenever something bad happens to any part of the gaming community, even if that part isn't my prefrence, I still feel for those guys.

Sorry for the long post btw, but I keep seeing people saying "exclusives don't matter" and I can't belive what I am hearing when they say that.

Riverwolf007

why would any company pour a ton of dev resources into an system that is about to be replaced?

thinking that ms is going to keep up what they have done in the past and also get a launch line up for the nextbox ready is either just pie-in-the-sky optimism or just an excuse to gripe at them because you are emotionally attached to some other system.

how am i supposed to complain about the line up of an obsolete system and take myself seriously afterwards?

hmm, ok let me try one and see first though maybe i'm wrong about the whole thing.

me: "omg! i'm mad! the holiday 2012 lineup is terrible! the 360's 7th year looks bad! how can they not develop big large budget AAA games that take years to produce for their 7 year old system??? how??"

nope sorry, it didn't work.

it just sounded foolish to expect a company to bust their *** to make games for a creaky old obsolete system. oh, well i tried. you all saw it.

lol dude....calm down....

The other companies are makeing new systems aswell but they still have gams coming out for the current gen. Sony and Nintendo both are doing this, hell the WiiU is launching next year but do you see Nintendo abandoning their fans? No.

Deny it all you want, but MS should be giving you more. Come this holiday season your going to look around and see nothing while the other systems are having a GREAT time with thier exclusives. MS should be giving you guys more and you know it. And when I say more I mean more besides Kinect and Sesame Street

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The vast majority does not give a crap whether a game is exclusive or not or how many exclusive games are on a system. People look at a library as a whole, see what games are on it that APPEAL TO THEM. Not like the people around here who see if the game is exclusive or not first. If its not exclusive, it's worthless. If it is exclusive, it's the bees knees even though it's viewed by most as a mediocre game at best. This is metality is pathetic.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Each system has those exclusive game(s) that make people want to buy the system. Yes exclusives do matter and thinking otherwise is silly, without exclusives there is no reason to buy that system. I hear alot of people on here recently saying that they are happy with the 360 current position and say that "exclusives don't matter" and they try (the key word is try here)to justify it by saying that they get PCgames which are "exclusive" (their words not mine) and that they have "teh superiorz multiplats" which anyone who is not a fanboy knows that is just laughable.

360 owners should demand more, they deserve more, and MS should listen. MS has ALL this money but they don't use it to secure 1st partydevs,so what are they using it on then? Kinect most likely which I don'tthink that's what the 360fanbase really wants. I know MS is making a new Halogame but come on,Halo is good and all but I think the 360owners deserve more than just one or two franchise games. Butwhat I don't understand is why do(some) 360 owners defend this? They don't act like this is an issue but if your system isn't getting exclusives anymore then there isn't really a reason to own it anymore is there? Why would someone buy a system just to play multiplats? No one would and your lyingto yourself if you thinkotherwise.

360 has Halo as it's flagship game, this is the reason why people bought the system.

PS3 has Uncharted and MGS4 as thier flagship games, this is why people bought the system.

Wii has Mario and Zelda as their flagship games, this is why people bought the system. (though it could be argued all the Wii needs is Mario)

The point is that exclusives do matter and always have and always will. And trying to sugar coat and downplay what MS is doing currently is wrong. You guys deserve more, whenever something bad happens to any part of the gaming community, even if that part isn't my prefrence, I still feel for those guys.

Sorry for the long post btw, but I keep seeing people saying "exclusives don't matter" and I can't belive what I am hearing when they say that.

ShadowMoses900

why would any company pour a ton of dev resources into an system that is about to be replaced?

thinking that ms is going to keep up what they have done in the past and also get a launch line up for the nextbox ready is either just pie-in-the-sky optimism or just an excuse to gripe at them because you are emotionally attached to some other system.

how am i supposed to complain about the line up of an obsolete system and take myself seriously afterwards?

hmm, ok let me try one and see first though maybe i'm wrong about the whole thing.

me: "omg! i'm mad! the holiday 2012 lineup is terrible! the 360's 7th year looks bad! how can they not develop big large budget AAA games that take years to produce for their 7 year old system??? how??"

nope sorry, it didn't work.

it just sounded foolish to expect a company to bust their *** to make games for a creaky old obsolete system. oh, well i tried. you all saw it.

lol dude....calm down....

The other companies are makeing new systems aswell but they still have gams coming out for the current gen. Sony and Nintendo both are doing this, hell the WiiU is launching next year but do you see Nintendo abandoning their fans? No.

Deny it all you want, but MS should be giving you more. Come this holiday season your going to look around and see nothing while the other systems are having a GREAT time with thier exclusives. MS should be giving you guys more and you know it. And when I say more I mean more besides Kinect and Sesame Street

Correct me if I am wrong, but do you not always claim that Nintendo has 'abandoned its fans?' What has made you go back on this statement?

The Wii U is launching next year, and that is evident once you look at the Wii's release slate... we have Zelda, Kirby, Rhythm Heaven and... that's it, that's all that the first party output for the Wii is. Because all development resources have shifted to the Wii U. Maybe that is the case with Microsoft and the Xbox 360?

Regardless, I will agree however that Microsoft greatly needs to expand its first party.

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#25 JohnF111
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It does looks like for Microsoft it doesn't.

Everybody is either playing CoD, Halo or Fifa anyway.

Masculus
Yeah they cost money to make, so why would MS spend anything when they can just do nothing and rake in the loyalty subscriptions of die-hand fans
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Anyone who think exclusives don't matter probably belong to a group of console owners that don't have any exclusives. Just saying.

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#27 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]why would any company pour a ton of dev resources into an system that is about to be replaced?

thinking that ms is going to keep up what they have done in the past and also get a launch line up for the nextbox ready is either just pie-in-the-sky optimism or just an excuse to gripe at them because you are emotionally attached to some other system.

how am i supposed to complain about the line up of an obsolete system and take myself seriously afterwards?

hmm, ok let me try one and see first though maybe i'm wrong about the whole thing.

me: "omg! i'm mad! the holiday 2012 lineup is terrible! the 360's 7th year looks bad! how can they not develop big large budget AAA games that take years to produce for their 7 year old system??? how??"

nope sorry, it didn't work.

it just sounded foolish to expect a company to bust their *** to make games for a creaky old obsolete system. oh, well i tried. you all saw it.

charizard1605

lol dude....calm down....

The other companies are makeing new systems aswell but they still have gams coming out for the current gen. Sony and Nintendo both are doing this, hell the WiiU is launching next year but do you see Nintendo abandoning their fans? No.

Deny it all you want, but MS should be giving you more. Come this holiday season your going to look around and see nothing while the other systems are having a GREAT time with thier exclusives. MS should be giving you guys more and you know it. And when I say more I mean more besides Kinect and Sesame Street

Correct me if I am wrong, but do you not always claim that Nintendo has 'abandoned its fans?' What has made you go back on this statement?

The Wii U is launching next year, and that is evident once you look at the Wii's release slate... we have Zelda, Kirby, Rhythm Heaven and... that's it, that's all that the first party output for the Wii is. Because all development resources have shifted to the Wii U. Maybe that is the case with Microsoft and the Xbox 360?

Regardless, I will agree however that Microsoft greatly needs to expand its first party.

lol I'm just joking when I say that stuff man, but yeah Nintendo doesn't abandone their fans compared to MS. And the fact is the Wii has more 1st party games coming out then 360 does. So nintendo does care about thier fans, just not as much as they should.

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#28 ShadowMoses900
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Anyone who think exclusives don't matter probably belong to a group of console owners that don't have any exclusives. Just saying.

Pug-Nasty

lol this is probably the case...

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i just don't think most you you dudes have any sort of realization of how these things work.

we have an example of what happens to your system when you don't end development for it with the ps3.

its library was basically a joke for a very long time because there was way more money to be made by selling games to the 100 million or so ps2 owners.

if you are a dev who are you going to go for the millions on the old system or the tiny next gen installed base?

you guys can't even imagine how much i want ms to forbid 360 development as soon as the new system is announced just like they did with the original xbox.

what's funny is that if ms does do that sw will erupt with anti ms threads about it because most of you can't see the forest for the trees.

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Exclusives matter until you get them and realize that they're not as good as everybody made them seem to be.

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#31 Demonjoe93
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I've always thought exclusives matter. Multiplats were the main reason I bought a PS3 but the deciding factor between the 360 and PS3 for me was that the PS3 has exclusives that I want (and I'd have to pay for online with the 360 which I refuse to do).

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Exclusives matter if they're good games. I don't think that Lair or Too Human were exactly system sellers.

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i just don't think most you you dudes have any sort of realization of how these things work.

we have an example of what happens to your system when you don't end development for it with the ps3.

its library was basically a joke for a very long time because there was way more money to be made by selling games to the 100 million or so ps2 owners.

if you are a dev who are you going to go for the millions on the old system or the tiny next gen installed base?

you guys can't even imagine how much i want ms to forbid 360 development as soon as the new system is announced just like they did with the original xbox.

what's funny is that if ms does do that sw will erupt with anti ms threads about it because most of you can't see the forest for the trees.

Riverwolf007

Ditching your fanbase and your system owners and just saying that "oh we wait for new system" is a sorry way to try and justify MS lack of exclusives. The fact is that MS doesn't have really any 1st party devs so if they did launch a new system (which they will) they won't have any exclusives for it. If Nintendo or Sony launch a new system (which they also will) then they have enough devs to make games for it. MS doesn't have this besides Halo (which is good but COD is better) Gears (good) Fable (just lol) Forza (decent but GT is the real racing game) and Seasme Street. Alan Wake got axed, Rare isn't doing anything because MS basically butchered them, so why would anyone buy a new xbox if there arn't any reasons to get one? ExclusiveGames sell the system, an MS doesn't have enough to make a new xbox worth buying.

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Only if they're good games.

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#35 clone01
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Ditching your fanbase and your system owners and just saying that "oh we wait for new system" is a sorry way to try and justify MS lack of exclusives. The fact is that MS doesn't have really any 1st party devs so if they did launch a new system (which they will) they won't have any exclusives for it. If Nintendo or Sony launch a new system (which they also will) then they have enough devs to make games for it. MS doesn't have this besides Halo (which is good but COD is better) Gears (good) Fable (just lol) Forza (decent but GT is the real racing game) and Seasme Street. Alan Wake got axed, Rare isn't doing anything because MS basically butchered them, so why would anyone buy a new xbox if there arn't any reasons to get one? ExclusiveGames sell the system, an MS doesn't have enough to make a new xbox worth buying.

ShadowMoses900

Why is Fable just "lol." I really have enjoyed the franchise. And I think Gears 3 is tremendous. You have a point that MS has definitely been anemic with their exclusives, but figuring in multiplats, I think owning just a 360 is more than enough for a lot of gamers. Just like owning only a PS3 or Wii. And didn't GT5 and Forza 4 score the same?

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#36 Lexter45
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]Ditching your fanbase and your system owners and just saying that "oh we wait for new system" is a sorry way to try and justify MS lack of exclusives. The fact is that MS doesn't have really any 1st party devs so if they did launch a new system (which they will) they won't have any exclusives for it. If Nintendo or Sony launch a new system (which they also will) then they have enough devs to make games for it. MS doesn't have this besides Halo (which is good but COD is better) Gears (good) Fable (just lol) Forza (decent but GT is the real racing game) and Seasme Street. Alan Wake got axed, Rare isn't doing anything because MS basically butchered them, so why would anyone buy a new xbox if there arn't any reasons to get one? ExclusiveGames sell the system, an MS doesn't have enough to make a new xbox worth buying.

clone01

Why is Fable just "lol." I really have enjoyed the franchise. And I think Gears 3 is tremendous. You have a point that MS has definitely been anemic with their exclusives, but figuring in multiplats, I think owning just a 360 is more than enough for a lot of gamers. Just like owning only a PS3 or Wii. And didn't GT5 and Forza 4 score the same?

GT5 Scored an 8.
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in my eyes, the console with the best library of exclusives wins. its the "be all end all" factor for me.

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#38 clone01
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[QUOTE="Lexter45"] GT5 Scored an 8.

Ahh, I stand corrected. And please note that its not a bash on GT5 when I bring up scores. For racers, in my very limited experience with the genre, they both seem excellent to me.
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#39 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]Ditching your fanbase and your system owners and just saying that "oh we wait for new system" is a sorry way to try and justify MS lack of exclusives. The fact is that MS doesn't have really any 1st party devs so if they did launch a new system (which they will) they won't have any exclusives for it. If Nintendo or Sony launch a new system (which they also will) then they have enough devs to make games for it. MS doesn't have this besides Halo (which is good but COD is better) Gears (good) Fable (just lol) Forza (decent but GT is the real racing game) and Seasme Street. Alan Wake got axed, Rare isn't doing anything because MS basically butchered them, so why would anyone buy a new xbox if there arn't any reasons to get one? ExclusiveGames sell the system, an MS doesn't have enough to make a new xbox worth buying.

clone01

Why is Fable just "lol." I really have enjoyed the franchise. And I think Gears 3 is tremendous. You have a point that MS has definitely been anemic with their exclusives, but figuring in multiplats, I think owning just a 360 is more than enough for a lot of gamers. Just like owning only a PS3 or Wii. And didn't GT5 and Forza 4 score the same?

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with someone liking the 360 more than another system, we all have a different prefrence, but if you own both systems and you look at the 360 there isn't really much of a reason to play it if you can just get multiplats on the other systems. And the things abotut the games I mentioned are my opinion, if you like Fable that's cool but they were too easy for me, Gears is good and I said it was, and I think Gran Turismo is more realistic than Forza but I think Forza handles the unlocking stuff better, but I'm not a racing fan unless it's like mario kart or something. Also reviews are just opinions...

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#40 Mozelleple112
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Each system has those exclusive game(s) that make people want to buy the system. Yes exclusives do matter and thinking otherwise is silly, without exclusives there is no reason to buy that system. I hear alot of people on here recently saying that they are happy with the 360 current position and say that "exclusives don't matter" and they try (the key word is try here)to justify it by saying that they get PCgames which are "exclusive" (their words not mine) and that they have "teh superiorz multiplats" which anyone who is not a fanboy knows that is just laughable.

360 owners should demand more, they deserve more, and MS should listen. MS has ALL this money but they don't use it to secure 1st partydevs,so what are they using it on then? Kinect most likely which I don'tthink that's what the 360fanbase really wants. I know MS is making a new Halogame but come on,Halo is good and all but I think the 360owners deserve more than just one or two franchise games. Butwhat I don't understand is why do(some) 360 owners defend this? They don't act like this is an issue but if your system isn't getting exclusives anymore then there isn't really a reason to own it anymore is there? Why would someone buy a system just to play multiplats? No one would and your lyingto yourself if you thinkotherwise.

360 has Halo as it's flagship game, this is the reason why people bought the system.

PS3 has Uncharted and MGS4 as thier flagship games, this is why people bought the system.

Wii has Mario and Zelda as their flagship games, this is why people bought the system. (though it could be argued all the Wii needs is Mario)

The point is that exclusives do matter and always have and always will. And trying to sugar coat and downplay what MS is doing currently is wrong. You guys deserve more, whenever something bad happens to any part of the gaming community, even if that part isn't my prefrence, I still feel for those guys.

Sorry for the long post btw, but I keep seeing people saying "exclusives don't matter" and I can't belive what I am hearing when they say that.

Riverwolf007

why would any company pour a ton of dev resources into an system that is about to be replaced?

thinking that ms is going to keep up what they have done in the past and also get a launch line up for the nextbox ready is either just pie-in-the-sky optimism or just an excuse to gripe at them because you are emotionally attached to some other system.

how am i supposed to complain about the line up of an obsolete system and take myself seriously afterwards?

hmm, ok let me try one and see first though maybe i'm wrong about the whole thing.

me: "omg! i'm mad! the holiday 2012 lineup is terrible! the 360's 7th year looks bad! how can they not develop big large budget AAA games that take years to produce for their 7 year old system??? how??"

nope sorry, it didn't work.

it just sounded foolish to expect a company to bust their *** to make games for a creaky old obsolete system. oh, well i tried. you all saw it.

But their 6th, 5th and 4th years were bad too :x so only doing good for the first 2-3 years?
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#41 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i just don't think most you you dudes have any sort of realization of how these things work.

we have an example of what happens to your system when you don't end development for it with the ps3.

its library was basically a joke for a very long time because there was way more money to be made by selling games to the 100 million or so ps2 owners.

if you are a dev who are you going to go for the millions on the old system or the tiny next gen installed base?

you guys can't even imagine how much i want ms to forbid 360 development as soon as the new system is announced just like they did with the original xbox.

what's funny is that if ms does do that sw will erupt with anti ms threads about it because most of you can't see the forest for the trees.

ShadowMoses900

Ditching your fanbase and your system owners and just saying that "oh we wait for new system" is a sorry way to try and justify MS lack of exclusives. The fact is that MS doesn't have really any 1st party devs so if they did launch a new system (which they will) they won't have any exclusives for it. If Nintendo or Sony launch a new system (which they also will) then they have enough devs to make games for it. MS doesn't have this besides Halo (which is good but COD is better) Gears (good) Fable (just lol) Forza (decent but GT is the real racing game) and Seasme Street. Alan Wake got axed, Rare isn't doing anything because MS basically butchered them, so why would anyone buy a new xbox if there arn't any reasons to get one? ExclusiveGames sell the system, an MS doesn't have enough to make a new xbox worth buying.

we are at the end of the gen and ms has sold just about all the 360s they will ever sell so why put effort into making new ip's for it?

i'm not trying to justify anything or say what they are doing is right or whatever.

what i am saying is that i personally do not feel like i am getting screwed over because i understand what is going on.

i'm not just going to blindly go out and buy the nextbox. if it has no games that appeal to me i will not buy it.

going on about how sucky the 360 games are compared to the ps3 ones just makes you look silly btw.

there are people that like some series over others and people that want to call them out over it are just desperate and showing their emotional connection to a peice of hardware.

you hate the ms exclusives? that's cool with me but don't go all crazy and believe that your opinion applies to everyone else.

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#42 Lexter45
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[QUOTE="Lexter45"]

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with someone liking the 360 more than another system, we all have a different prefrence, but if you own both systems and you look at the 360 there isn't really much of a reason to play it if you can just get multiplats on the other systems. And the things abotut the games I mentioned are my opinion, if you like Fable that's cool but they were too easy for me, Gears is good and I said it was, and I think Gran Turismo is more realistic than Forza but I think Forza handles the unlocking stuff better, but I'm not a racing fan unless it's like mario kart or something. Also reviews are just opinions...

clone01

[QUOTE="Lexter45"] GT5 Scored an 8.clone01
Ahh, I stand corrected. And please note that its not a bash on GT5 when I bring up scores. .

Oh I know. You seem like one of the more mature posters here so I won't assume that.

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[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]Ditching your fanbase and your system owners and just saying that "oh we wait for new system" is a sorry way to try and justify MS lack of exclusives. The fact is that MS doesn't have really any 1st party devs so if they did launch a new system (which they will) they won't have any exclusives for it. If Nintendo or Sony launch a new system (which they also will) then they have enough devs to make games for it. MS doesn't have this besides Halo (which is good but COD is better) Gears (good) Fable (just lol) Forza (decent but GT is the real racing game) and Seasme Street. Alan Wake got axed, Rare isn't doing anything because MS basically butchered them, so why would anyone buy a new xbox if there arn't any reasons to get one? ExclusiveGames sell the system, an MS doesn't have enough to make a new xbox worth buying.

ShadowMoses900

Why is Fable just "lol." I really have enjoyed the franchise. And I think Gears 3 is tremendous. You have a point that MS has definitely been anemic with their exclusives, but figuring in multiplats, I think owning just a 360 is more than enough for a lot of gamers. Just like owning only a PS3 or Wii. And didn't GT5 and Forza 4 score the same?

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with someone liking the 360 more than another system, we all have a different prefrence, but if you own both systems and you look at the 360 there isn't really much of a reason to play it if you can just get multiplats on the other systems. And the things abotut the games I mentioned are my opinion, if you like Fable that's cool but they were too easy for me, Gears is good and I said it was, and I think Gran Turismo is more realistic than Forza but I think Forza handles the unlocking stuff better, but I'm not a racing fan unless it's like mario kart or something. Also reviews are just opinions...

This is false. I own both systems, and I almost never play the ps3. All of my friends play 360 games, so I can play with them, and I like the xbox controller better. The ps3 system menu, frequent system updates and weird online presence makes it feel clunky to me. And a lot of multiplats seem to play better on 360, but that might be a mind trick or something.

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#44 arbitor365
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at this point lems have no choice but to disregard exclusives, because its pretty much impossible to make the argument that the 360 has better/more exclusives.

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#45 clone01
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This is false. I own both systems, and I almost never play the ps3. All of my friends play 360 games, so I can play with them, and I like the xbox controller better. The ps3 system menu, frequent system updates and weird online presence makes it feel clunky to me. And a lot of multiplats seem to play better on 360, but that might be a mind trick or something.

xLittlekillx

I definitely prefer the 360 controller, and, stupid as it is, I prefer achievements over trophies.

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Exclusives matter until you get them and realize that they're not as good as everybody made them seem to be.

xLittlekillx

Exclusives matter because when you are trying to decide which system to purchase if they have the same multiplats it is hard to choose one over the other (Unless you have a lot of money and it isn't a problem then you get both); But if it is a problem then you have to look at the exclusives and see which exclusives appeal to you most. If most of the games your interested in are multiplat but the one game you are anticipating is exclusive then you will purchase the system with that exclusive.

That is why exclusives matter.

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#47 xLittlekillx
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[QUOTE="xLittlekillx"]

Exclusives matter until you get them and realize that they're not as good as everybody made them seem to be.

Nintendo_Ownes7

Exclusives matter because when you are trying to decide which system to purchase if they have the same multiplats it is hard to choose one over the other (Unless you have a lot of money and it isn't a problem then you get both); But if it is a problem then you have to look at the exclusives and see which exclusives appeal to you most. If most of the games your interested in are multiplat but the one game you are anticipating is exclusive then you will purchase the system with that exclusive.

That is why exclusives matter.

But there are other things that matter too, in that regard. Like I said in my other post, things like which console your friends play on, which controller you prefer, which one does a better job of handling multiplats, etc.

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#48 clone01
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at this point lems have no choice but to disregard exclusives, because its pretty much impossible to make the argument that the 360 has better/more exclusives.

arbitor365
It depends on what exclusives one is interested in. Personally, I've gotten far more enjoyment out of Halo/Gears than pretty much any other PS3 exclusive, but that's just me. Currently, the officia number of 360 vs. PS3 exclusives has the PS3 ahead by 5 (1AAAA, 2AAA, 1AA, and 1A).
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#49 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="xLittlekillx"]

Exclusives matter until you get them and realize that they're not as good as everybody made them seem to be.

xLittlekillx

Exclusives matter because when you are trying to decide which system to purchase if they have the same multiplats it is hard to choose one over the other (Unless you have a lot of money and it isn't a problem then you get both); But if it is a problem then you have to look at the exclusives and see which exclusives appeal to you most. If most of the games your interested in are multiplat but the one game you are anticipating is exclusive then you will purchase the system with that exclusive.

That is why exclusives matter.

But there are other things that matter too, in that regard. Like I said in my other post, things like which console your friends play on, which controller you prefer, which one does a better job of handling multiplats, etc.

Those things are all secondary, except for the multiplats because those are the same, lol the things lemmings tell themselves. If anything multiplats are better on PS3 because of Blu Ray, which is the only real HD format.

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#50 DaisyFan007
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Sounds funny but sometimes studios dont even know the meaning of Exclusives games on console sometimes, let check at House of the dead and GoldenEye comming to a HD port soon. its just so wrong but its activision i guess for GoldenEye eh?