Exclusives do matter, alot actuallly....

Exclusives matter. Not to the extent that some people say that they do, but the people that say exclusives don't matter are also incorrect.

Quality exclusives really do help in making that ultimate purchase decision. I wanted Halo, I bought 360. Simple as that.

NeonNinja

Apart from the fact a lot of my mates own 360s and i have played the majority of great exclusives to death anyhow HA. Ok yeah Exclusives matter and it affected my choice to the point where it made the choice.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i just don't think most you you dudes have any sort of realization of how these things work.

we have an example of what happens to your system when you don't end development for it with the ps3.

its library was basically a joke for a very long time because there was way more money to be made by selling games to the 100 million or so ps2 owners.

if you are a dev who are you going to go for the millions on the old system or the tiny next gen installed base?

you guys can't even imagine how much i want ms to forbid 360 development as soon as the new system is announced just like they did with the original xbox.

what's funny is that if ms does do that sw will erupt with anti ms threads about it because most of you can't see the forest for the trees.

Riverwolf007

Ditching your fanbase and your system owners and just saying that "oh we wait for new system" is a sorry way to try and justify MS lack of exclusives. The fact is that MS doesn't have really any 1st party devs so if they did launch a new system (which they will) they won't have any exclusives for it. If Nintendo or Sony launch a new system (which they also will) then they have enough devs to make games for it. MS doesn't have this besides Halo (which is good but COD is better) Gears (good) Fable (just lol) Forza (decent but GT is the real racing game) and Seasme Street. Alan Wake got axed, Rare isn't doing anything because MS basically butchered them, so why would anyone buy a new xbox if there arn't any reasons to get one? ExclusiveGames sell the system, an MS doesn't have enough to make a new xbox worth buying.

i'm not trying to justify anything or say what they are doing is right or whatever.

what i am saying is that i personally do not feel like i am getting screwed over because i understand what is going on.

i'm not just going to blindly go out and buy the nextbox. if it has no games that appeal to me i will not buy it.

going on about how sucky the 360 games are compared to the ps3 ones just makes you look silly btw.

there are people that like some series over others and people that want to call them out over it are just desperate and showing their emotional connection to a peice of hardware.

you hate the ms exclusives? that's cool with me but don't go all crazy and believe that your opinion applies to everyone else.

So in other words what your saying is that the 360 is dead and there is no reason to ownone anymore?

And when did I say that 360 exclusives suck :?

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[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]Exclusives matter because when you are trying to decide which system to purchase if they have the same multiplats it is hard to choose one over the other (Unless you have a lot of money and it isn't a problem then you get both); But if it is a problem then you have to look at the exclusives and see which exclusives appeal to you most. If most of the games your interested in are multiplat but the one game you are anticipating is exclusive then you will purchase the system with that exclusive.

That is why exclusives matter.

ShadowMoses900

But there are other things that matter too, in that regard. Like I said in my other post, things like which console your friends play on, which controller you prefer, which one does a better job of handling multiplats, etc.

Those things are all secondary, except for the multiplats because those are the same, lol the things lemmings tell themselves. If anything multiplats are better on PS3 because of Blu Ray, which is the only real HD format.

For me, the exclusives are usually secondary because they never seem to be as good as everybody tells me they are. I can think of maybe 5 exclusives between both systems this gen that I really enjoyed. Playing with my friends and having a good experience playing in general is important to me.

And multiplats are often better on 360 because they're often made for the 360, then ported to ps3. And if a multiplat runs at 720p on xbox, it's going to run at 720p on ps3, blu ray shmoo ray. I do enjoy watching my blu ray star wars movies on ps3 though.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Ditching your fanbase and your system owners and just saying that "oh we wait for new system" is a sorry way to try and justify MS lack of exclusives. The fact is that MS doesn't have really any 1st party devs so if they did launch a new system (which they will) they won't have any exclusives for it. If Nintendo or Sony launch a new system (which they also will) then they have enough devs to make games for it. MS doesn't have this besides Halo (which is good but COD is better) Gears (good) Fable (just lol) Forza (decent but GT is the real racing game) and Seasme Street. Alan Wake got axed, Rare isn't doing anything because MS basically butchered them, so why would anyone buy a new xbox if there arn't any reasons to get one? ExclusiveGames sell the system, an MS doesn't have enough to make a new xbox worth buying.

ShadowMoses900

i'm not trying to justify anything or say what they are doing is right or whatever.

what i am saying is that i personally do not feel like i am getting screwed over because i understand what is going on.

i'm not just going to blindly go out and buy the nextbox. if it has no games that appeal to me i will not buy it.

going on about how sucky the 360 games are compared to the ps3 ones just makes you look silly btw.

there are people that like some series over others and people that want to call them out over it are just desperate and showing their emotional connection to a peice of hardware.

you hate the ms exclusives? that's cool with me but don't go all crazy and believe that your opinion applies to everyone else.

So in other words what your saying is that the 360 is dead and there is no reason to ownone anymore?

And when did I say that 360 exclusives suck :?

if one of my friends came to me and asked if they should buy a 360 or ps3 i would say wait for next gen because it is right around the corner.

if mine broke down for some reason i know i would not replace it and just limp out of this gen on the ps3.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="xLittlekillx"]

But there are other things that matter too, in that regard. Like I said in my other post, things like which console your friends play on, which controller you prefer, which one does a better job of handling multiplats, etc.

xLittlekillx

Those things are all secondary, except for the multiplats because those are the same, lol the things lemmings tell themselves. If anything multiplats are better on PS3 because of Blu Ray, which is the only real HD format.

For me, the exclusives are usually secondary because they never seem to be as good as everybody tells me they are. I can think of maybe 5 exclusives between both systems this gen that I really enjoyed. Playing with my friends and having a good experience playing in general is important to me.

And multiplats are often better on 360 because they're often made for the 360, then ported to ps3. And if a multiplat runs at 720p on xbox, it's going to run at 720p on ps3, blu ray shmoo ray. I do enjoy watching my blu ray star wars movies on ps3 though.

Exclusives are what matter the most, what system has the exclusives you prefer is the one you should get. Without exclusives the system has no identity and there is no reason to buy one.

As for multiplats 99% of the time they all look and play exactly the same and you know it. It's almost impossible to see a difference, but hey whatever you say man. And Blu Ray does matter, it's the current standard of format HD and will be used in the future systems. You can't downplay it.

[QUOTE="xLittlekillx"]

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]Exclusives matter because when you are trying to decide which system to purchase if they have the same multiplats it is hard to choose one over the other (Unless you have a lot of money and it isn't a problem then you get both); But if it is a problem then you have to look at the exclusives and see which exclusives appeal to you most. If most of the games your interested in are multiplat but the one game you are anticipating is exclusive then you will purchase the system with that exclusive.

That is why exclusives matter.

ShadowMoses900

But there are other things that matter too, in that regard. Like I said in my other post, things like which console your friends play on, which controller you prefer, which one does a better job of handling multiplats, etc.

Those things are all secondary, except for the multiplats because those are the same, lol the things lemmings tell themselves. If anything multiplats are better on PS3 because of Blu Ray, which is the only real HD format.

quit giving the game away that you are just trolling, it's not as fun.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="xLittlekillx"]

But there are other things that matter too, in that regard. Like I said in my other post, things like which console your friends play on, which controller you prefer, which one does a better job of handling multiplats, etc.

xLittlekillx

Those things are all secondary, except for the multiplats because those are the same, lol the things lemmings tell themselves. If anything multiplats are better on PS3 because of Blu Ray, which is the only real HD format.

For me, the exclusives are usually secondary because they never seem to be as good as everybody tells me they are. I can think of maybe 5 exclusives between both systems this gen that I really enjoyed. Playing with my friends and having a good experience playing in general is important to me.

And multiplats are often better on 360 because they're often made for the 360, then ported to ps3. And if a multiplat runs at 720p on xbox, it's going to run at 720p on ps3, blu ray shmoo ray. I do enjoy watching my blu ray star wars movies on ps3 though.

[QUOTE="xLittlekillx"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Those things are all secondary, except for the multiplats because those are the same, lol the things lemmings tell themselves. If anything multiplats are better on PS3 because of Blu Ray, which is the only real HD format.

jwsoul

For me, the exclusives are usually secondary because they never seem to be as good as everybody tells me they are. I can think of maybe 5 exclusives between both systems this gen that I really enjoyed. Playing with my friends and having a good experience playing in general is important to me.

And multiplats are often better on 360 because they're often made for the 360, then ported to ps3. And if a multiplat runs at 720p on xbox, it's going to run at 720p on ps3, blu ray shmoo ray. I do enjoy watching my blu ray star wars movies on ps3 though.

I definitely am biased, because I prefer the 360. I almost never play my ps3. Well I do now because I can finally play Odin Spere. But I got my ps3 and I immediately picked up uncharted 2, infamous, demons souls and 3d dot game heroes. 3d dot is the only one that didn't bore me. Demons Souls was good too, but I don't think it's healthy to rage quit as much as I did with that game. I've actually considered getting killzone 3 because I hear there are bot matches, but I don't know yet because there are soooo many good games coming out in the next 2 months.

i just don't think most you you dudes have any sort of realization of how these things work.

we have an example of what happens to your system when you don't end development for it with the ps3.

its library was basically a joke for a very long time because there was way more money to be made by selling games to the 100 million or so ps2 owners.

if you are a dev who are you going to go for the millions on the old system or the tiny next gen installed base?

you guys can't even imagine how much i want ms to forbid 360 development as soon as the new system is announced just like they did with the original xbox.

what's funny is that if ms does do that sw will erupt with anti ms threads about it because most of you can't see the forest for the trees.

Riverwolf007

That's great if the new system has complete BC at launch and is affordable. Of course, buying MS's next box at launch would be quite silly after the RROD problem. I would definitely want to wait and see how the hardware stacks up.

I specifically didn't buy a 360 when they came out because they dropped all support for the Xbox and the 360 wasn't backwards compatible. Oh yeah, and it was ridiculously expensive for the tech it had.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i just don't think most you you dudes have any sort of realization of how these things work.

we have an example of what happens to your system when you don't end development for it with the ps3.

its library was basically a joke for a very long time because there was way more money to be made by selling games to the 100 million or so ps2 owners.

if you are a dev who are you going to go for the millions on the old system or the tiny next gen installed base?

you guys can't even imagine how much i want ms to forbid 360 development as soon as the new system is announced just like they did with the original xbox.

what's funny is that if ms does do that sw will erupt with anti ms threads about it because most of you can't see the forest for the trees.

Pug-Nasty

That's great if the new system has complete BC at launch and is affordable. Of course, buying MS's next box at launch would be quite silly after the RROD problem. I would definitely want to wait and see how the hardware stacks up.

I specifically didn't buy a 360 when they came out because they dropped all support for the Xbox and the 360 wasn't backwards compatible. Oh yeah, and it was ridiculously expensive for the tech it had.

all the biggies ran fine.

battlefront, crimson skies, conker, doom3, all the gts'a, halo1 &2 and a few others i was playing but forgot about because it was 6 years ago.

as it stands now it play 400 games which is 50% of the xbox library and they quit releasing patches in like 2007.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i just don't think most you you dudes have any sort of realization of how these things work.

we have an example of what happens to your system when you don't end development for it with the ps3.

its library was basically a joke for a very long time because there was way more money to be made by selling games to the 100 million or so ps2 owners.

if you are a dev who are you going to go for the millions on the old system or the tiny next gen installed base?

you guys can't even imagine how much i want ms to forbid 360 development as soon as the new system is announced just like they did with the original xbox.

what's funny is that if ms does do that sw will erupt with anti ms threads about it because most of you can't see the forest for the trees.

Pug-Nasty

That's great if the new system has complete BC at launch and is affordable. Of course, buying MS's next box at launch would be quite silly after the RROD problem. I would definitely want to wait and see how the hardware stacks up.

I specifically didn't buy a 360 when they came out because they dropped all support for the Xbox and the 360 wasn't backwards compatible. Oh yeah, and it was ridiculously expensive for the tech it had.

I don't even know if I'm going to get the next gen of consoles. I might just stick to PC. Both xbox and ps3 are sort of garbage, to be honest. I'd be better off just finding a way to hook my pc up to my tv and playing with a controller.

well yeah the case is that most people here talking about no point in owning a 360 anymopre because there aren't any exclusives and all, yeha this year it has 2 exclusives (if you don't care about kinect) but still those two exclusives were added to the other 6 years of games that the 360 has brought, still is a point to choose a console since I would rather have Halo 3 or Mass Effect that anything from the other consoles, but right now there are many games to play I have so much games that I want to try that I don't mind them being exclusive or not, sure PS3 or PC gamers have more games to play now and that's fine by me, but doesn't detriment the fact that in the present (5 years after I got my 360) I made a choice and I still have games to play and more are being released on all platforms.

Yeah the point is valid to use in system wars that the PS3 has more exclusive games right now, and my affect someones ourchase who just want to get a console, but again, 5 years back the 360 had a library that mixed great multiplats and some exclusives, so no point in owning a 360 anymore? hell yeah there is a point games are still being developed for the console and the games coming are getting better in production values, and if you have a PS3, Wii, PC or 360 great you have a bunch of games to play and look forward to!

I would have brought a 360 a long time ago if it didn't matter

why would any company pour a ton of dev resources into an system that is about to be replaced?Riverwolf007

Output has been low since 2009 anyway. But that's seemingly ignored when people hypothesise that MS's first party is all collectively working on the next gen.

In the real world people buy consoles for the purpose of playing multi-platform games, not exclusives. If you look at the top sales figures for the two consoles the games at the top of the list are mostly multi-platform titles. This is why Microsoft has focussed more on securing timed exclusive DLC and so forth for popular games rather than ensuring the games themselves are exclusive. They have also put a lot of emphasis into Kinect because it's a radically different experience (the other consoles have motion games, but not ones without a controller).

Exclusives may help sway a buyer towards a particular console, but there are various other factors (buying the same system as their friends, going for the cheaper one, favouring one because of its bundled games, etc.); once they have chosen their console it doesn't matter that many of those games are available on the other console, nor does it matter when a previously-exclusive game gets released for the other system, because the specific purpose of buying the console was to play games, not to have some magical fanboy experience that those with competing platforms can't touch.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

i just don't think most you you dudes have any sort of realization of how these things work.

we have an example of what happens to your system when you don't end development for it with the ps3.

its library was basically a joke for a very long time because there was way more money to be made by selling games to the 100 million or so ps2 owners.

if you are a dev who are you going to go for the millions on the old system or the tiny next gen installed base?

you guys can't even imagine how much i want ms to forbid 360 development as soon as the new system is announced just like they did with the original xbox.

what's funny is that if ms does do that sw will erupt with anti ms threads about it because most of you can't see the forest for the trees.

Riverwolf007

That's great if the new system has complete BC at launch and is affordable. Of course, buying MS's next box at launch would be quite silly after the RROD problem. I would definitely want to wait and see how the hardware stacks up.

I specifically didn't buy a 360 when they came out because they dropped all support for the Xbox and the 360 wasn't backwards compatible. Oh yeah, and it was ridiculously expensive for the tech it had.

all the biggies ran fine.

battlefront, crimson skies, conker, doom3, all the gts'a, halo1 &2 and a few others i was playing but forgot about because it was 6 years ago.

as it stands now it play 400 games which is 50% of the xbox library and they quit releasing patches in like 2007.

MS should have done a better job of making that known then, since the guys at Gamestop seemed pretty sure that it wasn't.

I would have likely picked one up at launch had I known that, but I guess that would have just led to me buying and selling a 360 earlier than I did.

For me BC is important early in the gen. The imporatance fades away after a while, which is why I sold my 60 gb ps3 and bought an 80 gb, non-compatible one a couple of years after launch.

You're in SW, TC. Where the heck did you get that exclusives don't matter?

[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]Ditching your fanbase and your system owners and just saying that "oh we wait for new system" is a sorry way to try and justify MS lack of exclusives. The fact is that MS doesn't have really any 1st party devs so if they did launch a new system (which they will) they won't have any exclusives for it. If Nintendo or Sony launch a new system (which they also will) then they have enough devs to make games for it. MS doesn't have this besides Halo (which is good but COD is better) Gears (good) Fable (just lol) Forza (decent but GT is the real racing game) and Seasme Street. Alan Wake got axed, Rare isn't doing anything because MS basically butchered them, so why would anyone buy a new xbox if there arn't any reasons to get one? ExclusiveGames sell the system, an MS doesn't have enough to make a new xbox worth buying.

ShadowMoses900

Why is Fable just "lol." I really have enjoyed the franchise. And I think Gears 3 is tremendous. You have a point that MS has definitely been anemic with their exclusives, but figuring in multiplats, I think owning just a 360 is more than enough for a lot of gamers. Just like owning only a PS3 or Wii. And didn't GT5 and Forza 4 score the same?

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with someone liking the 360 more than another system, we all have a different prefrence, but if you own both systems and you look at the 360 there isn't really much of a reason to play it if you can just get multiplats on the other systems. And the things abotut the games I mentioned are my opinion, if you like Fable that's cool but they were too easy for me, Gears is good and I said it was, and I think Gran Turismo is more realistic than Forza but I think Forza handles the unlocking stuff better, but I'm not a racing fan unless it's like mario kart or something. Also reviews are just opinions...

the difference in high scoring exclusives between the ps3 and the 360 is very small. did you know this?

These vreasons you mentioning are mainly why i choose SONY over MS/Nintendo.

Sony since PSX , showed clearly that they support their systems even into next gen consoles. For example. PSX had support 2 even where we were 2 years into PS2 gen. PS2 had support 2 to 3 years into PS3 gen.

Guess what.. SONY its almost sure will end up with LOSES out of PS3 , 2 years now they starting to earn some money back but the loss gap is so huge to fill it up which i wonder even with their 10 years cycle plan this will happen.So i stronly beleive they will end up with loss out of PS3 .

EThats why i respect sony though. They insist to support PS3 like no other console this gen. Wii is almost dead despite x2 sales of PS3/X360 which is ridiculous to say the least , X360 seems to lack titles DESPITE that has already good profits out of sales/games and Xbox live unlike Sony.

This gen i didnt buy a console for various reasons but i think PS3 has the greater value of all 3 , the last 2 to 3 years at least. And yeah , "best" exclusives ( this is matter of taste also though ) , free internet , Blu-ray and you feel safe that this console will get support even in 2013 or more. ( and i dont mean the 10 years cycle plan ).

I cant wait for PS4. seriously. Dunno how Sony does it all the time but they really know how to deliver in the end . All gens prove that and even if PS3 had a bad and very slow start in the end delivers...

I almost went out and got the new rune factory game, which would be the only ps3 exclusive this year that I want. Any of you play it yet?

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

That's great if the new system has complete BC at launch and is affordable. Of course, buying MS's next box at launch would be quite silly after the RROD problem. I would definitely want to wait and see how the hardware stacks up.

I specifically didn't buy a 360 when they came out because they dropped all support for the Xbox and the 360 wasn't backwards compatible. Oh yeah, and it was ridiculously expensive for the tech it had.

Pug-Nasty

all the biggies ran fine.

battlefront, crimson skies, conker, doom3, all the gts'a, halo1 &2 and a few others i was playing but forgot about because it was 6 years ago.

as it stands now it play 400 games which is 50% of the xbox library and they quit releasing patches in like 2007.

MS should have done a better job of making that known then, since the guys at Gamestop seemed pretty sure that it wasn't.

I would have likely picked one up at launch had I known that, but I guess that would have just led to me buying and selling a 360 earlier than I did.

For me BC is important early in the gen. The imporatance fades away after a while, which is why I sold my 60 gb ps3 and bought an 80 gb, non-compatible one a couple of years after launch.

you didn't didn't put in the effort to find out and somebody at a game store misled you so whos fault is it?

microsofts! :lol:

classic.

I would like to point out that the Wii's exclusives are more fun than PS3 and Xbox's exclusives, but it's certainly not a better system.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="xLittlekillx"]

But there are other things that matter too, in that regard. Like I said in my other post, things like which console your friends play on, which controller you prefer, which one does a better job of handling multiplats, etc.

Riverwolf007

Those things are all secondary, except for the multiplats because those are the same, lol the things lemmings tell themselves. If anything multiplats are better on PS3 because of Blu Ray, which is the only real HD format.

quit giving the game away that you are just trolling, it's not as fun.

Blu-Ray is the true HD format and makes HD better. FACT

It's not trolling it's the truth...but to be serious about the multiplats they look and play the same.

Exclusives don't matter, QUALITY exclusives matter. Very big difference there.

If an exclusive sucks it is not going to encourage anyone to get the system.

However, a fantstic exclusive like Halo 3 is able to push units because it is a must have game.

The issue with Cows saying exclusives matter is that they forget quality matters.

Sure, alot of PS3 exclusives look fun, but they just aren't compelling enough to make me get a PS3. The only exclusives I actually desire are MGS4, GoW3, and now maybe Twisted Metal.

Infamous, Resistance, and Uncharted can all be fun games, but they just lack that must-have factor in my mind. I can live without them so I can have my Halo and Gears.

Exclusives are totally overrated to the average gamer. There was a study conducted on this too by Nielsen last year. Exclusives came in dead last as factors for buying a console.KC_Hokie

lol study uhuh, yep ok whatever you say. I have also done several studies, just ask Charizard on here, he's quite a fan of my "work" which I'm sure that study you mentioned is just as reliable :lol:

Exclusives are totally overrated to the average gamer. There was a study conducted on this too by Nielsen last year. Exclusives came in dead last as factors for buying a console.KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Exclusives are totally overrated to the average gamer. There was a study conducted on this too by Nielsen last year. Exclusives came in dead last as factors for buying a console.ShadowMoses900

lol study uhuh, yep ok whatever you say. I have also done several studies, just ask Charizard on here, he's quite a fan of my "work" which I'm sure that study you mentioned is just as reliable :lol:

[QUOTE="Masculus"]

It does looks like for Microsoft it doesn't.

Everybody is either playing CoD, Halo or Fifa anyway.

JohnF111

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]there was like 200 games at launch that were bc. the only one i owned that did not run was rallisport challenge 2 (which is a huge bummer since it is still my fav racer).

all the biggies ran fine.

battlefront, crimson skies, conker, doom3, all the gts'a, halo1 &2 and a few others i was playing but forgot about because it was 6 years ago.

as it stands now it play 400 games which is 50% of the xbox library and they quit releasing patches in like 2007.

Riverwolf007

MS should have done a better job of making that known then, since the guys at Gamestop seemed pretty sure that it wasn't.

I would have likely picked one up at launch had I known that, but I guess that would have just led to me buying and selling a 360 earlier than I did.

For me BC is important early in the gen. The imporatance fades away after a while, which is why I sold my 60 gb ps3 and bought an 80 gb, non-compatible one a couple of years after launch.

you didn't didn't put in the effort to find out and somebody at a game store misled you so whos fault is it?

microsofts! :lol:

classic.

MS is the one who stands to lose by not making those things known, so it is their fault.

If I had purchased the thing and found out it didn't play games I had for xbox, that would have been my fault.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Those things are all secondary, except for the multiplats because those are the same, lol the things lemmings tell themselves. If anything multiplats are better on PS3 because of Blu Ray, which is the only real HD format.

ShadowMoses900

quit giving the game away that you are just trolling, it's not as fun.

Blu-Ray is the true HD format and makes HD better. FACT

It's not trolling it's the truth...but to be serious about the multiplats they look and play the same.

i love it for movies though.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

MS should have done a better job of making that known then, since the guys at Gamestop seemed pretty sure that it wasn't.

I would have likely picked one up at launch had I known that, but I guess that would have just led to me buying and selling a 360 earlier than I did.

For me BC is important early in the gen. The imporatance fades away after a while, which is why I sold my 60 gb ps3 and bought an 80 gb, non-compatible one a couple of years after launch.

Pug-Nasty

you didn't didn't put in the effort to find out and somebody at a game store misled you so whos fault is it?

microsofts! :lol:

classic.

MS is the one who stands to lose by not making those things known, so it is their fault.

If I had purchased the thing and found out it didn't play games I had for xbox, that would have been my fault.

the 360 was a success but you didn't get to play the games.

btw, i like how you kept it up that it's their fault, never say die man.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Exclusives are totally overrated to the average gamer. There was a study conducted on this too by Nielsen last year. Exclusives came in dead last as factors for buying a console.KC_Hokie

lol study uhuh, yep ok whatever you say. I have also done several studies, just ask Charizard on here, he's quite a fan of my "work" which I'm sure that study you mentioned is just as reliable :lol:

And so am I, yep I know I work for them....

Nah not really but please explain why the hell a research company would bespending money ondoing"research" and "studies"on VIDEO GAMES!

I am so sorry but arn't there more important things to research out there, like you know mabey a cure to AIDS or something? No it's about video games, xbox is SO important that doing a "study" qualifies as being serious "research" lol. I can gurantee you 2 things

1) The "study" was influenced by income bias, who do you think funded this "study"? There's your answer to the outcome....

2) No trustworthy scientific research team would waste time and money on video games. That's just silly to say the least.

Of course they do. Otherwise, owning multiple platforms would be useles :|.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

lol study uhuh, yep ok whatever you say. I have also done several studies, just ask Charizard on here, he's quite a fan of my "work" which I'm sure that study you mentioned is just as reliable :lol:

ShadowMoses900

And so am I, yep I know I work for them....

Nah not really but please explain why the hell a research company would bespending money ondoing"research" and "studies"on VIDEO GAMES!

I am so sorry but arn't there more important things to research out there, like you know mabey a cure to AIDS or something? No it's about video games, xbox is SO important that doing a "study" qualifies as being serious "research" lol. I can gurantee you 2 things

1) The "study" was influenced by income bias, who do you think funded this "study"? There's your answer to the outcome....

2) No trustworthy scientific research team would waste time and money on video games. That's just silly to say the least.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

lol study uhuh, yep ok whatever you say. I have also done several studies, just ask Charizard on here, he's quite a fan of my "work" which I'm sure that study you mentioned is just as reliable :lol:

ShadowMoses900

And so am I, yep I know I work for them....

Nah not really but please explain why the hell a research company would bespending money ondoing"research" and "studies"on VIDEO GAMES!

I am so sorry but arn't there more important things to research out there, like you know mabey a cure to AIDS or something? No it's about video games, xbox is SO important that doing a "study" qualifies as being serious "research" lol. I can gurantee you 2 things

1) The "study" was influenced by income bias, who do you think funded this "study"? There's your answer to the outcome....

2) No trustworthy scientific research team would waste time and money on video games. That's just silly to say the least.

every entertainment device in the house is wired into a computer and it tracks what the family watches.

it's been going on for like 30 years.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Nielsen is a reputable research organization. Riverwolf007

And so am I, yep I know I work for them....

Nah not really but please explain why the hell a research company would bespending money ondoing"research" and "studies"on VIDEO GAMES!

I am so sorry but arn't there more important things to research out there, like you know mabey a cure to AIDS or something? No it's about video games, xbox is SO important that doing a "study" qualifies as being serious "research" lol. I can gurantee you 2 things

1) The "study" was influenced by income bias, who do you think funded this "study"? There's your answer to the outcome....

2) No trustworthy scientific research team would waste time and money on video games. That's just silly to say the least.

every entertainment device in the house is wired into a computer and it tracks what the family watches.

it's been going on for like 30 years.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]:lol: where you store ones and zeros makes it "real HD"

quit giving the game away that you are just trolling, it's not as fun.

Riverwolf007

Blu-Ray is the true HD format and makes HD better. FACT

It's not trolling it's the truth...but to be serious about the multiplats they look and play the same.

i love it for movies though.

lol you do realise that the next xbox is going to have Blu Ray right? Lol @ using dvd's in this generation, so outdated might aswell use tapedecks too. Blu Ray is the future of HD and games and movies, you wish the 360 had it and you know it's true. And the installs are Sony's fault for not fixing the memory situation with the PS3 (not game save memory storage, different type of memory) this is why the PS3 can't use cross chat because there simply isn't enough software memory. That's why some games have to be installed, but slow loads never happens. Don't know where you are getting that from :?

If the 360 had Blu Ray you guys could have gotten MGS4 on the 360, but alas the 360 uses inferior and outdated technology so it will never hapoen on the 360, NEVER! I wish it was otherwise that's why I'm hoping that MGS4 comes to the next xbox, although they would also have to upgrade the controller because the current 360 controller CANNOT beat psycho mantis in MGS4 or do some of the other nesseccary things in the game.

Like I said it's outdated ...

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Nielsen is a reputable research organization. KC_Hokie

And so am I, yep I know I work for them....

Nah not really but please explain why the hell a research company would bespending money ondoing"research" and "studies"on VIDEO GAMES!

I am so sorry but arn't there more important things to research out there, like you know mabey a cure to AIDS or something? No it's about video games, xbox is SO important that doing a "study" qualifies as being serious "research" lol. I can gurantee you 2 things

1) The "study" was influenced by income bias, who do you think funded this "study"? There's your answer to the outcome....

2) No trustworthy scientific research team would waste time and money on video games. That's just silly to say the least.

Thier study was crap and anyone can see that. Exclusives are what sell the system otherwise there is no reason to buy one. Everything else is secondary....

Nielsen is a reputable research organization. KC_Hokie

It asked participants to choose their five most important motivating factors for buying a PS3, from a list of ten options and then gave a proportion of respondents who listed a particular reason amongst their top five motivating factors.

For 12% of the respondents "I am looking forward to buying a specific game." was one of their top five motivating factors. Amongst the specific games specified were Modern Warfare and Final Fantasy XIII. This does not mean that buying a specific game is the least important factor, but it is the least common top five factor.

62% of respondents included among their top five motivating factors "I like the library of games available." which will again include both multiplatform and exclusive titles.

TL;DR version, you've no basis for your claim and shouldn't cite things you don't understand.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

And so am I, yep I know I work for them....

Nah not really but please explain why the hell a research company would bespending money ondoing"research" and "studies"on VIDEO GAMES!

I am so sorry but arn't there more important things to research out there, like you know mabey a cure to AIDS or something? No it's about video games, xbox is SO important that doing a "study" qualifies as being serious "research" lol. I can gurantee you 2 things

1) The "study" was influenced by income bias, who do you think funded this "study"? There's your answer to the outcome....

2) No trustworthy scientific research team would waste time and money on video games. That's just silly to say the least.

ShadowMoses900

Thier study was crap and anyone can see that. Exclusives are what sell the system otherwise there is no reason to buy one. Everything else is secondary....

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Nielsen is a reputable research organization. shinrabanshou

It asked participants to choose their five most important motivating factors for buying a PS3, from a list of ten options and then gave a proportion of respondents who listed a particular reason amongst their top five motivating factors.

For 12% of the respondents "I am looking forward to buying a specific game." was one of their top five motivating factors. Amongst the specific games specified were Modern Warfare and Final Fantasy XIII. This does not mean that buying a specific game is the least important factor, but it is the least common top five factor.

62% of respondents included among their top five motivating factors "I like the library of games available." which will again include both multiplatform and exclusive titles.

TL;DR version, you've no basis for your claim.

You guys are still ignoring that the Wii has the best exclusives.

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Nielsen is a reputable research organization. KC_Hokie

It asked participants to choose their five most important motivating factors for buying a PS3, from a list of ten options and then gave a proportion of respondents who listed a particular reason amongst their top five motivating factors.

For 12% of the respondents "I am looking forward to buying a specific game." was one of their top five motivating factors. Amongst the specific games specified were Modern Warfare and Final Fantasy XIII. This does not mean that buying a specific game is the least important factor, but it is the least common top five factor.

62% of respondents included among their top five motivating factors "I like the library of games available." which will again include both multiplatform and exclusive titles.

TL;DR version, you've no basis for your claim.

Did they say "exclusive"? If not then they are just saying specific games in general, could be multiplat or exclusive. You shouldn't bring things up if you don't understand them and want to use them for some kind of agenda. Yep I'm the one that has an obsession around here alright :roll:

Still doesn't change the fact that the study was crap...

In the study you could give every choice the best score. 'Specific game' (exclusive) came last ahead of 'other'. KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Blu-Ray is the true HD format and makes HD better. FACT

It's not trolling it's the truth...but to be serious about the multiplats they look and play the same.

ShadowMoses900

i love it for movies though.

lol you do realise that the next xbox is going to have Blu Ray right? Lol @ using dvd's in this generation, so outdated might aswell use tapedecks too. Blu Ray is the future of HD and games and movies, you wish the 360 had it and you know it's true. And the installs are Sony's fault for not fixing the memory situation with the PS3 (not game save memory storage, different type of memory) this is why the PS3 can't use cross chat because there simply isn't enough software memory. That's why some games have to be installed, but slow loads never happens. Don't know where you are getting that from :?

If the 360 had Blu Ray you guys could have gotten MGS4 on the 360, but alas the 360 uses inferior and outdated technology so it will never hapoen on the 360, NEVER! I wish it was otherwise that's why I'm hoping that MGS4 comes to the next xbox, although they would also have to upgrade the controller because the current 360 controller CANNOT beat psycho mantis in MGS4 or do some of the other nesseccary things in the game.

Like I said it's outdated ...

and now that you mention it i'm really glad the 360 does not have it since i have seen what it does to ps3 games and i already have a bd player.

and i played mgs4.

and did you really just say 360 controller can't beat psyco mantis? is that some kind of pop culture reference? is it supposed to mean something to me?

am i supposed to be all oh noes! 360 ain't got the tech so beat psycho mantis! it's an unsolvable conundrum!