I mean has anyone ordered a pizza before?ArisShadows
I know what you mean, there is no way it should cost around 20 bucks for a side and a pizza. >_>
EXPLOITED: Nintendo's motion sensors only cost $2.50 to make! The horror!
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[QUOTE="PimpiNbananas"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"][QUOTE="PimpiNbananas"]Wow.... I guess the Wii is ripping of my country the most.... cos over here it costs $500 and its the second most popular in terms of sales. jethrovegas
If it is the most popular in sales then how in the hell are you being ripped off? Nintendo has provided a product that, apparently, your country is willing to pay for.
It is called supply and demand. If the price was too high for the product provided then it would not have good sales. Basically, the only price that is too high is the one that people are not willing to pay.
first of I said second .... 360 is selling more in my country NZ.
Second if we convert $500 in to US $ we still have to pay more. Now I just found out how cheap the remote is being made I am just saying our country is getting ripped off with overpriced ****. Games over here cost up to $130. Forza was released and it cost $120.... thats like $80 or 90 if you convert it to US $. The wii costing $500 with Wii sports... thats like what?
If it was priced to high people would not be buying it.:roll: well put yourself in my shoes, how would you feel having to pay that much?
maybe its cos the fact that my country has like almost no gamers and we don't know much about consoles..... or maybe the fact that compared to other consoles, its cheap. Ps3 cost $1200 over here thats $850 in US approximately, 360 elite costs $850 thats about Ahhh you work it out.
[QUOTE="Berserker_2"][QUOTE="BigDaddyPOLO"]Good for them, at least they have the guts to pull something off like that.jethrovegas
It's not called "guts". It's "desperation".
It is actually called "buisness". What, are you people shocked that some companies actually want to make money? You act as if greed is evil...
yea, and how are they desperate? They made money of the GC, even though it failed, the DS is makin them lots of money. Basically they are making lots of money. How are they desperate?
[QUOTE="jethrovegas"][QUOTE="PimpiNbananas"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"][QUOTE="PimpiNbananas"]Wow.... I guess the Wii is ripping of my country the most.... cos over here it costs $500 and its the second most popular in terms of sales. PimpiNbananas
If it is the most popular in sales then how in the hell are you being ripped off? Nintendo has provided a product that, apparently, your country is willing to pay for.
It is called supply and demand. If the price was too high for the product provided then it would not have good sales. Basically, the only price that is too high is the one that people are not willing to pay.
first of I said second .... 360 is selling more in my country NZ.
Second if we convert $500 in to US $ we still have to pay more. Now I just found out how cheap the remote is being made I am just saying our country is getting ripped off with overpriced ****. Games over here cost up to $130. Forza was released and it cost $120.... thats like $80 or 90 if you convert it to US $. The wii costing $500 with Wii sports... thats like what?
If it was priced to high people would not be buying it.:roll: well put yourself in my shoes, how would you feel having to pay that much?
maybe its cos the fact that my country has like almost no gamers and we don't know much about consoles..... or maybe the fact that compared to other consoles, its cheap. Ps3 cost $1200 over here thats $850 in US approximately, 360 elite costs $850 thats about Ahhh you work it out.
That's just it... you don't have to pay that much. If it is too expensive then don't buy it...
[QUOTE="PimpiNbananas"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"][QUOTE="PimpiNbananas"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"][QUOTE="PimpiNbananas"]Wow.... I guess the Wii is ripping of my country the most.... cos over here it costs $500 and its the second most popular in terms of sales. jethrovegas
If it is the most popular in sales then how in the hell are you being ripped off? Nintendo has provided a product that, apparently, your country is willing to pay for.
It is called supply and demand. If the price was too high for the product provided then it would not have good sales. Basically, the only price that is too high is the one that people are not willing to pay.
first of I said second .... 360 is selling more in my country NZ.
Second if we convert $500 in to US $ we still have to pay more. Now I just found out how cheap the remote is being made I am just saying our country is getting ripped off with overpriced ****. Games over here cost up to $130. Forza was released and it cost $120.... thats like $80 or 90 if you convert it to US $. The wii costing $500 with Wii sports... thats like what?
If it was priced to high people would not be buying it.:roll: well put yourself in my shoes, how would you feel having to pay that much?
maybe its cos the fact that my country has like almost no gamers and we don't know much about consoles..... or maybe the fact that compared to other consoles, its cheap. Ps3 cost $1200 over here thats $850 in US approximately, 360 elite costs $850 thats about Ahhh you work it out.
That's just it... you don't have to pay that much. If it is too expensive then don't buy it...
Too expensive for what its worth..... I'd gladly pay $850 for an Elite but 500 for Wii.... no. $500 for a wii is a rip off for what its worth Nuff siad kkkkk???
Haha, this is so wondeful. So many Nintendo fans have become so deluded and desperate to defend a product that has sold them down the river, reversed the natural progression of this industry, and is attempting to butcher to gaming to little more than a childish plaything that they no longer care about the integrity and consumer friendlyness of this industry.
God, I hate this industry. And it's not Nintendo that I hate the most, either.
[QUOTE="DrCoCoPiMp"][QUOTE="thirstychainsaw"]I always thought the Wii was overpriced, even at $250.ssbfalco
It's a gamecube that can read movies... for sure it is overpriced
hey guys, should we tell him?
yes, tell him(im a sheep hermit btw)The same reason i'm glad i didn't buy a wii. They won't be ripping me off.Zero-G_basic
Poor you. Not being able to enjoy Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, SSBB, NiGHTS 2, and complete the third party support once it migrates away from Sony for costing $600 thus diminishing Sony's install base this generation.
Enjoy switching place with the sheep this generation. Wii will sell most consoles and recieve most third party support, while Playstation 3 will have massive droughts in-between first party God of War 4 and Shadow of the Colossus 2.
I really hope you haters never go into business cause yall sure as **** would go bankrupt. The first thing you ever learn in economics is that you go into to business to make a PROFIT. That is your number one goal. Seriously you haters sound so pathetic. If yall really think the Wii is a ripoff, then I guess you think almost everything you buy is a ripoff. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your HDTVs was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your shoes and clothes was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture them. You do not normally go into business to lose billions of dollars. Do you get the point? peaceful_anger
Haters? I'm a consumer, first and foremost. I like to know a company is busting its butt to offer me the best quality product, at the lowest possible price, while paying the highest possible prices to its employees. The Wii is all about exploiting people to sell an antiquated, inferior, and lame product that relies heavily on worthless franchise tags and the "family friendly" audience to make a dollar.
The Wii is offering the worst hardware on the market, at a ridiculous price, and making a profit off consumers who are wound up in nostalgia, utilizing low standards to judge games, or considering games as little more than a childish plaything. The fact someone could say, "THIS IS NP, LOLOL" disgusts me. It is an example of how deluded, backward, and strange this industry has become. We should all be unified against something as vile, pathetic, and disgusting as price-gouging customers.
Don't buy this garbage.
[QUOTE="Zero-G_basic"]The same reason i'm glad i didn't buy a wii. They won't be ripping me off.Lilac_Benjie
Poor you. Not being able to enjoy Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, SSBB, NiGHTS 2, and complete the third party support once it migrates away from Sony for costing $600 thus diminishing Sony's install base this generation.
Enjoy switching place with the sheep this generation. Wii will sell most consoles and recieve most third party support, while Playstation 3 will have massive droughts in-between first party God of War 4 and Shadow of the Colossus 2.
Poor you. A series of 20 year old marketing icons has managed to beguile you to such a degree that you have completely reordered your values concerning video games. Things like graphical quality, the depth of gaming as an enterainment medium, increased hardware efficency, price, third party freedom of support, origionality, hardware functionality, and buisness ethics have taken a back seat to the minimal "fun" that the is able to provide.
Enjoy watching this generation degrade into a childish hell-hole of 20 year old marketing icons, devoid of value and meaning, and "family-friendly" garbage produced for the ever growing mass of casual gamers who consider gaming as nothing more than a childish play thing.
Why the Wii betrays consumers:
1. Mass advertisement.
2. Altering and expanding the market by the most derogatory method possible.
3. Lowering consumer expectations.
4. Limiting the function of video games to little more than a childish plaything.
5. Exploiting nostalgia and franchise tags that are over two decades old.
6. Reordering value by the low standards and expectations consumers develope.
7. Producing games that reflect the demand of the new "family-friendly" and "casual" audience.Too bad Wii fans are participating in the collective regression and intellectual genocide of video games as a meaningful and valid entertainment medium. Too bad Wii fans are advocating low standards, embracing obsolete hardware, and ignoring the higher functions of video games. Too bad Wii fans are supporting the single most regressive, anti-consumer, and limiting company in this sick industry. Too bad the quality of Wii games this generation will decline in porportion to the size of new "casual" consumers. Too bad the Wii butchers the functionality and quality of gaming to such an extent that it can't provide anything beyond the most basic, primitive, and immediate forms of pleasure.
Watching a 20 year old marketing icon jump around a world devoid of meaning and consequence doesn't exactly stimulate my desire for entertainment. Swatting a ball around with the flick of a wrist, or making silly star-patterns for boosts, doesn't exactly cater to my desires either. But hell, you're right. We probably do have different experiences.My problem with Wii, and Nintendo in general, is that they limit the functionality of games (and technological progression) to its most base, simple, and regressive forms -- they provide no alternative products, or freedom for developers who might want to make games around the demands of consumers who have moved beyond gawking at 20 year old marketing icons and pointlessly swatting balls across the screen.
My problem is complicated by the fact that Wii is working against the best intrests of consumers in this industry, lowering the expectations of consumers, and destroying the validity of gaming as a respectable entertainment medium.
I'm simply too critical to use the base and simple entertainment I might recieve from a Wiisports games as a benchmark that justifies the existence, quality, and potential of a "next-gen" console. You like Wiisports and SPM? Great.
Does it make Wii a good console? No. Does it mean that Wii is working to advance the industry and the entertainment medium of gaming? No. Is it fair to praise these products in such a high and valuble light when they cater to the lowest expectations and desires we all have? No. Does the Wii provide cutting-edge hardware at a fair price? No. Does the Wii encorporate and embrace gaming as a valid and broad entertainment medium? No. Does the Wii encourage third party development and exceed the demands of consumers? No.
We all know what good is for this industry from the perspective of consumers. We've always known: stronger hardware, cheaper prices, more developers, more intellectual freedom, more innovation, newer and bolder ideas, greater functionality, more depth, more game for your dollar. I don't exactly need to look into a crystal ball and evoke a druidish chant to scrye what is good for us. Nintendo has forced many of its fans to reorder, forget, or denounce these very functional, positive, and historically important values to rationalize their support for a product that works against their interests, fails to meet the benchmarks of this generation, and has butchered the functionality and scope of gaming as an entertainment medium.
Bashing the Wii for the horrible quality of its hardware, the marketing campaign it has employed, its mission statement, and its clear shortcomings is anything BUT mindless fanboy rabble.
Wow, have we forgotten what Capitalism is? If people are willing to pay $40 for something then you charge that! See those Nikes on your feet? Probably cost a dollar to make yet you paid 60 for em.
Lets use all 2 of our brain cells... oh wait this is system wars.
[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]I really hope you haters never go into business cause yall sure as **** would go bankrupt. The first thing you ever learn in economics is that you go into to business to make a PROFIT. That is your number one goal. Seriously you haters sound so pathetic. If yall really think the Wii is a ripoff, then I guess you think almost everything you buy is a ripoff. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your HDTVs was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your shoes and clothes was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture them. You do not normally go into business to lose billions of dollars. Do you get the point? FoamingPanda
Haters? I'm a consumer, first and foremost. I like to know a company is busting its butt to offer me the best quality product, at the lowest possible price, while paying the highest possible prices to its employees.
YOU FAIL Remedial ECONOMICS!!!
A company's goal isn't that... It's to deliver the best quality product necessary, at the highest possible price the comsumer will buy it at, while paying its employees as little as possible... (Engineers are expensive...)
[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]I really hope you haters never go into business cause yall sure as **** would go bankrupt. The first thing you ever learn in economics is that you go into to business to make a PROFIT. That is your number one goal. Seriously you haters sound so pathetic. If yall really think the Wii is a ripoff, then I guess you think almost everything you buy is a ripoff. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your HDTVs was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your shoes and clothes was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture them. You do not normally go into business to lose billions of dollars. Do you get the point? FoamingPanda
Haters? I'm a consumer, first and foremost. I like to know a company is busting its butt to offer me the best quality product, at the lowest possible price, while paying the highest possible prices to its employees. The Wii is all about exploiting people to sell an antiquated, inferior, and lame product that relies heavily on worthless franchise tags and the "family friendly" audience to make a dollar.
The Wii is offering the worst hardware on the market, at a ridiculous price, and making a profit off consumers who are wound up in nostalgia, utilizing low standards to judge games, or considering games as little more than a childish plaything. The fact someone could say, "THIS IS NP, LOLOL" disgusts me. It is an example of how deluded, backward, and strange this industry has become. We should all be unified against something as vile, pathetic, and disgusting as price-gouging customers.
Don't buy this garbage.
Best post ever.
That is exactly how I feel about Nintendo, now.
[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]I really hope you haters never go into business cause yall sure as **** would go bankrupt. The first thing you ever learn in economics is that you go into to business to make a PROFIT. That is your number one goal. Seriously you haters sound so pathetic. If yall really think the Wii is a ripoff, then I guess you think almost everything you buy is a ripoff. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your HDTVs was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your shoes and clothes was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture them. You do not normally go into business to lose billions of dollars. Do you get the point? FoamingPanda
Haters? I'm a consumer, first and foremost. I like to know a company is busting its butt to offer me the best quality product, at the lowest possible price, while paying the highest possible prices to its employees. The Wii is all about exploiting people to sell an antiquated, inferior, and lame product that relies heavily on worthless franchise tags and the "family friendly" audience to make a dollar.
The Wii is offering the worst hardware on the market, at a ridiculous price, and making a profit off consumers who are wound up in nostalgia, utilizing low standards to judge games, or considering games as little more than a childish plaything. The fact someone could say, "THIS IS NP, LOLOL" disgusts me. It is an example of how deluded, backward, and strange this industry has become. We should all be unified against something as vile, pathetic, and disgusting as price-gouging customers.
Don't buy this garbage.
amen, $250 for a $99 produce is a ripoff
the ps3 is worth about $800 and is a steal
Wow, have we forgotten what Capitalism is? If people are willing to pay $40 for something then you charge that! See those Nikes on your feet? Probably cost a dollar to make yet you paid 60 for em.
Lets use all 2 of our brain cells... oh wait this is system wars.
cametall
Wow, have we forgotten what being an intelligent consumer means? Forgive people for not standing up and screaming, "OH GOD! I LOVE YOU MARIO AND ZELDA! SO MUCH SO, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE PLAYED FOUR GENERATIONS WORTH OF YOUR POINTLESS, CLICHE, AND REPTITIVE GAMES, THAT I NO LONGER CARE THAT YOU ARE ARTIFICALLY INFLATING THE PRICE OF YOUR PRODUCTS!!" Ripping off customers is not a virture, nor is it something a rational person should praise.
Don't you love when people cite an idea that is as self-serving, primitive, and backwards as capitalism to justify a wrong that is being done to consumers, and then go so far as to say, "well, it isn't wrong," to justify their support in a console that is clearly working against the intrests of consumers in this industry?
[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]I really hope you haters never go into business cause yall sure as **** would go bankrupt. The first thing you ever learn in economics is that you go into to business to make a PROFIT. That is your number one goal. Seriously you haters sound so pathetic. If yall really think the Wii is a ripoff, then I guess you think almost everything you buy is a ripoff. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your HDTVs was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your shoes and clothes was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture them. You do not normally go into business to lose billions of dollars. Do you get the point? FoamingPanda
Haters? I'm a consumer, first and foremost. I like to know a company is busting its butt to offer me the best quality product, at the lowest possible price, while paying the highest possible prices to its employees. The Wii is all about exploiting people to sell an antiquated, inferior, and lame product that relies heavily on worthless franchise tags and the "family friendly" audience to make a dollar.
The Wii is offering the worst hardware on the market, at a ridiculous price, and making a profit off consumers who are wound up in nostalgia, utilizing low standards to judge games, or considering games as little more than a childish plaything. The fact someone could say, "THIS IS NP, LOLOL" disgusts me. It is an example of how deluded, backward, and strange this industry has become. We should all be unified against something as vile, pathetic, and disgusting as price-gouging customers.
Don't buy this garbage.
Yeah. I guess I should just save my money for the microtransactions that MS is going to milk me of that should have been included in the game to begin with, or that I should be able to download for free.[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"][QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]I really hope you haters never go into business cause yall sure as **** would go bankrupt. The first thing you ever learn in economics is that you go into to business to make a PROFIT. That is your number one goal. Seriously you haters sound so pathetic. If yall really think the Wii is a ripoff, then I guess you think almost everything you buy is a ripoff. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your HDTVs was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your shoes and clothes was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture them. You do not normally go into business to lose billions of dollars. Do you get the point? peaceful_anger
Haters? I'm a consumer, first and foremost. I like to know a company is busting its butt to offer me the best quality product, at the lowest possible price, while paying the highest possible prices to its employees. The Wii is all about exploiting people to sell an antiquated, inferior, and lame product that relies heavily on worthless franchise tags and the "family friendly" audience to make a dollar.
The Wii is offering the worst hardware on the market, at a ridiculous price, and making a profit off consumers who are wound up in nostalgia, utilizing low standards to judge games, or considering games as little more than a childish plaything. The fact someone could say, "THIS IS NP, LOLOL" disgusts me. It is an example of how deluded, backward, and strange this industry has become. We should all be unified against something as vile, pathetic, and disgusting as price-gouging customers.
Don't buy this garbage.
Yeah. I guess I should just save my money for the microtransactions that MS is going to milk me of that should have been included in the game to begin with, or that I should be able to download for free.
Yeah seriously... EPIC has every right to be ticked...
[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"][QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]I really hope you haters never go into business cause yall sure as **** would go bankrupt. The first thing you ever learn in economics is that you go into to business to make a PROFIT. That is your number one goal. Seriously you haters sound so pathetic. If yall really think the Wii is a ripoff, then I guess you think almost everything you buy is a ripoff. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your HDTVs was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your shoes and clothes was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture them. You do not normally go into business to lose billions of dollars. Do you get the point? peaceful_anger
Haters? I'm a consumer, first and foremost. I like to know a company is busting its butt to offer me the best quality product, at the lowest possible price, while paying the highest possible prices to its employees. The Wii is all about exploiting people to sell an antiquated, inferior, and lame product that relies heavily on worthless franchise tags and the "family friendly" audience to make a dollar.
The Wii is offering the worst hardware on the market, at a ridiculous price, and making a profit off consumers who are wound up in nostalgia, utilizing low standards to judge games, or considering games as little more than a childish plaything. The fact someone could say, "THIS IS NP, LOLOL" disgusts me. It is an example of how deluded, backward, and strange this industry has become. We should all be unified against something as vile, pathetic, and disgusting as price-gouging customers.
Don't buy this garbage.
Yeah. I guess I should just save my money for the microtransactions that MS is going to milk me of that should have been included in the game to begin with, or that I should be able to download for free.Stop thinking how this industry wants you to think. Both companies are doing bad things. Acknowledge the flaws of both. MS is almost as bad, although not as dangeous to the future of gaming, as Nintendo is when it comes to ripping off consumers.
Blah blah blah... I'm emo... blah blah blah....Haha, this is so wondeful. So many Nintendo fans have become so deluded and desperate to defend a product that has sold them down the river, reversed the natural progression of this industry, and is attempting to butcher to gaming to little more than a childish plaything that they no longer care about the integrity and consumer friendlyness of this industry.
God, I hate this industry. And it's not Nintendo that I hate the most, either.
FoamingPanda
[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"][QUOTE="FoamingPanda"][QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]I really hope you haters never go into business cause yall sure as **** would go bankrupt. The first thing you ever learn in economics is that you go into to business to make a PROFIT. That is your number one goal. Seriously you haters sound so pathetic. If yall really think the Wii is a ripoff, then I guess you think almost everything you buy is a ripoff. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your HDTVs was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your shoes and clothes was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture them. You do not normally go into business to lose billions of dollars. Do you get the point? FoamingPanda
Haters? I'm a consumer, first and foremost. I like to know a company is busting its butt to offer me the best quality product, at the lowest possible price, while paying the highest possible prices to its employees. The Wii is all about exploiting people to sell an antiquated, inferior, and lame product that relies heavily on worthless franchise tags and the "family friendly" audience to make a dollar.
The Wii is offering the worst hardware on the market, at a ridiculous price, and making a profit off consumers who are wound up in nostalgia, utilizing low standards to judge games, or considering games as little more than a childish plaything. The fact someone could say, "THIS IS NP, LOLOL" disgusts me. It is an example of how deluded, backward, and strange this industry has become. We should all be unified against something as vile, pathetic, and disgusting as price-gouging customers.
Don't buy this garbage.
Yeah. I guess I should just save my money for the microtransactions that MS is going to milk me of that should have been included in the game to begin with, or that I should be able to download for free.Stop thinking how this industry wants you to think. Both companies are doing bad things. Acknowledge the flaws of both. MS is almost as bad, although not as dangeous to the future of gaming, as Nintendo is when it comes to ripping off consumers.
No... Nintendo is actually good for the future of gaming... You see, as the non gamers and light casuals get into gaming with the Wii, they'll be more interested in gaming in general. They'll go, look up stuff about games, and see things that they just can't get on the Wii, and may be inclined to buy another console.
Nintendo is being the catalyst for the growth of the rest of the industry... If you see the sales of Xbox360 and PS3 increase, it will be partially due to that as well...
Sooo....what about the rest of it?t2wavewoah......../thread right there
People! Do you know what manufacturing overhead is? How about labor costs? You are assuming that Nintendo buys all this plastic and it assembles itself, packages itself, ships iteslf, places itself on store shelves, and sells itself.
This all goes into deciding the price of a product. That controller was probably assembled in China, shipped to Japan, then shipped to California and then distributed across the country. Take your heads outta your...
[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"][QUOTE="FoamingPanda"][QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]I really hope you haters never go into business cause yall sure as **** would go bankrupt. The first thing you ever learn in economics is that you go into to business to make a PROFIT. That is your number one goal. Seriously you haters sound so pathetic. If yall really think the Wii is a ripoff, then I guess you think almost everything you buy is a ripoff. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your HDTVs was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your shoes and clothes was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture them. You do not normally go into business to lose billions of dollars. Do you get the point? FoamingPanda
Haters? I'm a consumer, first and foremost. I like to know a company is busting its butt to offer me the best quality product, at the lowest possible price, while paying the highest possible prices to its employees. The Wii is all about exploiting people to sell an antiquated, inferior, and lame product that relies heavily on worthless franchise tags and the "family friendly" audience to make a dollar.
The Wii is offering the worst hardware on the market, at a ridiculous price, and making a profit off consumers who are wound up in nostalgia, utilizing low standards to judge games, or considering games as little more than a childish plaything. The fact someone could say, "THIS IS NP, LOLOL" disgusts me. It is an example of how deluded, backward, and strange this industry has become. We should all be unified against something as vile, pathetic, and disgusting as price-gouging customers.
Don't buy this garbage.
Yeah. I guess I should just save my money for the microtransactions that MS is going to milk me of that should have been included in the game to begin with, or that I should be able to download for free.Stop thinking how this industry wants you to think. Both companies are doing bad things. Acknowledge the flaws of both. MS is almost as bad, although not as dangeous to the future of gaming, as Nintendo is when it comes to ripping off consumers.
Microsoft not dangerous to the future of gaming? So I've been imagining them trying to turn the free world of PC gaming into another market for their microtransactions? I don't like the Wii personally (I'm sad that Nintendo has turned its back on its core fanbase to make crap like Brain Age, Wii Orchestra, and Mario and Sonic at the Olympics) but they aren't "destroying gaming" any more than Microsoft is with thier microtransactions or Sony is by trying to shove a potentially useless video format down your throat.
[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"][QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]I really hope you haters never go into business cause yall sure as **** would go bankrupt. The first thing you ever learn in economics is that you go into to business to make a PROFIT. That is your number one goal. Seriously you haters sound so pathetic. If yall really think the Wii is a ripoff, then I guess you think almost everything you buy is a ripoff. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your HDTVs was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your shoes and clothes was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture them. You do not normally go into business to lose billions of dollars. Do you get the point? TrueReligion_
Haters? I'm a consumer, first and foremost. I like to know a company is busting its butt to offer me the best quality product, at the lowest possible price, while paying the highest possible prices to its employees. The Wii is all about exploiting people to sell an antiquated, inferior, and lame product that relies heavily on worthless franchise tags and the "family friendly" audience to make a dollar.
The Wii is offering the worst hardware on the market, at a ridiculous price, and making a profit off consumers who are wound up in nostalgia, utilizing low standards to judge games, or considering games as little more than a childish plaything. The fact someone could say, "THIS IS NP, LOLOL" disgusts me. It is an example of how deluded, backward, and strange this industry has become. We should all be unified against something as vile, pathetic, and disgusting as price-gouging customers.
Don't buy this garbage.
Best post ever.
That is exactly how I feel about Nintendo, now.
Yeah wow I totally agree. Although they are providing something new, Nintendo is ripping us all off. They could've easily launched a console with low-end modern hardware for $200..... just like the did with the Gamecube. But instead they release 6 year old hardware at $50 MORE than it cost a whole 6 years ago. Not to mention $50 being far too much for low budget small games with last gen visuals (everything should be $20-40 besides large games like Zelda). And VC prices are just plain outrageous.....
[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"]Blah blah blah... I'm emo... blah blah blah....Haha, this is so wondeful. So many Nintendo fans have become so deluded and desperate to defend a product that has sold them down the river, reversed the natural progression of this industry, and is attempting to butcher to gaming to little more than a childish plaything that they no longer care about the integrity and consumer friendlyness of this industry.
God, I hate this industry. And it's not Nintendo that I hate the most, either.
SER69
Blah blah blah... I'm an adult who has to worry about things like games staying affordable and remaining competitive with other forms of media... blah blah blah, I'm sick of seeing this sad industry remain in an intellectual torpor, and want to see gaming embraced as a meaningful and respectable form of entertainment...
I still wonder what the rest of the Wiimote costs.t2wave
Also how much it takes to make the PS3 and 360 controllers...
There's the EPROM chip on the remote, the mini(albeit crappy) speaker. Small amount of Flash memory. Bluetooth, leds, ink, rubber, PCB...
Who knows the cost... I could care less... I wish I bought Nintendo stocks though...
I still wonder what the rest of the Wiimote costs.t2wave
Most people are too thick to think about what i stated on page 4 towards the bottom.
[QUOTE="TrueReligion_"][QUOTE="FoamingPanda"][QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]I really hope you haters never go into business cause yall sure as **** would go bankrupt. The first thing you ever learn in economics is that you go into to business to make a PROFIT. That is your number one goal. Seriously you haters sound so pathetic. If yall really think the Wii is a ripoff, then I guess you think almost everything you buy is a ripoff. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your HDTVs was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your shoes and clothes was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture them. You do not normally go into business to lose billions of dollars. Do you get the point? Lazy_Boy88
Haters? I'm a consumer, first and foremost. I like to know a company is busting its butt to offer me the best quality product, at the lowest possible price, while paying the highest possible prices to its employees. The Wii is all about exploiting people to sell an antiquated, inferior, and lame product that relies heavily on worthless franchise tags and the "family friendly" audience to make a dollar.
The Wii is offering the worst hardware on the market, at a ridiculous price, and making a profit off consumers who are wound up in nostalgia, utilizing low standards to judge games, or considering games as little more than a childish plaything. The fact someone could say, "THIS IS NP, LOLOL" disgusts me. It is an example of how deluded, backward, and strange this industry has become. We should all be unified against something as vile, pathetic, and disgusting as price-gouging customers.
Don't buy this garbage.
Best post ever.
That is exactly how I feel about Nintendo, now.
Yeah wow I totally agree. Although they are providing something new, Nintendo is ripping us all off. They could've easily launched a console with low-end modern hardware for $200..... just like the did with the Gamecube. But instead they release 6 year old hardware at $50 MORE than it cost a whole 6 years ago. Not to mention $50 being far too much for low budget small games with last gen visuals (everything should be $20-40 besides large games like Zelda). And VC prices are just plain outrageous.....
So Nintendo should break even? What is wrong with you people. Since when did it become good to operate in the red? We have this preacher here screaming at us that "Zelda has brainwashed you!" The clothes you are wearing cost 25 cents to make and you piad 20 bucks. Why don't you go throw a fit over that? You people are just angry that the machine with mediocre graphics is selling better than your 600 dollar machine and this is how you take your anger out.
[QUOTE="cametall"]Wow, have we forgotten what Capitalism is? If people are willing to pay $40 for something then you charge that! See those Nikes on your feet? Probably cost a dollar to make yet you paid 60 for em.
Lets use all 2 of our brain cells... oh wait this is system wars.
FoamingPanda
Wow, have we forgotten what being an intelligent consumer means? Forgive people for not standing up and screaming, "OH GOD! I LOVE YOU MARIO AND ZELDA! SO MUCH SO, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE PLAYED FOUR GENERATIONS WORTH OF YOUR POINTLESS, CLICHE, AND REPTITIVE GAMES, THAT I NO LONGER CARE THAT YOU ARE ARTIFICALLY INFLATING THE PRICE OF YOUR PRODUCTS!!" Ripping off customers is not a virture, nor is it something a rational person should praise.
Don't you love when people cite an idea that is as self-serving, primitive, and backwards as capitalism to justify a wrong that is being done to consumers, and then go so far as to say, "well, it isn't wrong," to justify their support in a console that is clearly working against the intrests of consumers in this industry?
links? claims to back up that statement. Or is it another "I'm right because I say so" type of moment.
Twilight princess...highest rated game of the year.Who should I believe...the countless number of review sources that give mario platformers and zelda games great reviews.....or this nut job thats trying to gather attention like a common hobo carrying a "the end is near!!!" sign
[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"][QUOTE="peaceful_anger"][QUOTE="FoamingPanda"][QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]I really hope you haters never go into business cause yall sure as **** would go bankrupt. The first thing you ever learn in economics is that you go into to business to make a PROFIT. That is your number one goal. Seriously you haters sound so pathetic. If yall really think the Wii is a ripoff, then I guess you think almost everything you buy is a ripoff. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your HDTVs was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your shoes and clothes was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture them. You do not normally go into business to lose billions of dollars. Do you get the point? bloodychimp
Haters? I'm a consumer, first and foremost. I like to know a company is busting its butt to offer me the best quality product, at the lowest possible price, while paying the highest possible prices to its employees. The Wii is all about exploiting people to sell an antiquated, inferior, and lame product that relies heavily on worthless franchise tags and the "family friendly" audience to make a dollar.
The Wii is offering the worst hardware on the market, at a ridiculous price, and making a profit off consumers who are wound up in nostalgia, utilizing low standards to judge games, or considering games as little more than a childish plaything. The fact someone could say, "THIS IS NP, LOLOL" disgusts me. It is an example of how deluded, backward, and strange this industry has become. We should all be unified against something as vile, pathetic, and disgusting as price-gouging customers.
Don't buy this garbage.
Yeah. I guess I should just save my money for the microtransactions that MS is going to milk me of that should have been included in the game to begin with, or that I should be able to download for free.Stop thinking how this industry wants you to think. Both companies are doing bad things. Acknowledge the flaws of both. MS is almost as bad, although not as dangeous to the future of gaming, as Nintendo is when it comes to ripping off consumers.
Microsoft not dangerous to the future of gaming? So I've been imagining them trying to turn the free world of PC gaming into another market for their microtransactions? I don't like the Wii personally (I'm sad that Nintendo has turned its back on its core fanbase to make crap like Brain Age, Wii Orchestra, and Mario and Sonic at the Olympics) but they aren't "destroying gaming" any more than Microsoft is with thier microtransactions or Sony is by trying to shove a potentially useless video format down your throat.
Actually, I've yet to see Microsoft raise a blade against the functionality and depth of gaming as a format of entertainment itself. Microsoft seems to be content with simply nickle-and-diming customers for features that should remain free. Nintendo is the only company at the moment that is guilty of attempting to cause a regression in the depth of gaming as a form of entertainment and the importance of high-quality hardware.
Blah blah blah... I'm emo... blah blah blah....[QUOTE="SER69"][QUOTE="FoamingPanda"]
Haha, this is so wondeful. So many Nintendo fans have become so deluded and desperate to defend a product that has sold them down the river, reversed the natural progression of this industry, and is attempting to butcher to gaming to little more than a childish plaything that they no longer care about the integrity and consumer friendlyness of this industry.
God, I hate this industry. And it's not Nintendo that I hate the most, either.
FoamingPanda
Blah blah blah... I'm an adult who has to worry about things like games staying affordable and remaining competitive with other forms of media... blah blah blah, I'm sick of seeing this sad industry remain in an intellectual torpor, and want to see gaming embraced as a meaningful and respectable form of entertainment...
mm... yeah.. but you see.. we're in this turning point in generations where the major corporations and governments are run by people who feel technology is evil simply because they don't understand it...
Basically, the people running the world are too old... there, I said it...
[QUOTE="peaceful_anger"][QUOTE="FoamingPanda"][QUOTE="peaceful_anger"]I really hope you haters never go into business cause yall sure as **** would go bankrupt. The first thing you ever learn in economics is that you go into to business to make a PROFIT. That is your number one goal. Seriously you haters sound so pathetic. If yall really think the Wii is a ripoff, then I guess you think almost everything you buy is a ripoff. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your HDTVs was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture. I guarentee you; the price you payed for your shoes and clothes was a lot more than what it costs to manufacture them. You do not normally go into business to lose billions of dollars. Do you get the point? FoamingPanda
Haters? I'm a consumer, first and foremost. I like to know a company is busting its butt to offer me the best quality product, at the lowest possible price, while paying the highest possible prices to its employees. The Wii is all about exploiting people to sell an antiquated, inferior, and lame product that relies heavily on worthless franchise tags and the "family friendly" audience to make a dollar.
The Wii is offering the worst hardware on the market, at a ridiculous price, and making a profit off consumers who are wound up in nostalgia, utilizing low standards to judge games, or considering games as little more than a childish plaything. The fact someone could say, "THIS IS NP, LOLOL" disgusts me. It is an example of how deluded, backward, and strange this industry has become. We should all be unified against something as vile, pathetic, and disgusting as price-gouging customers.
Don't buy this garbage.
Yeah. I guess I should just save my money for the microtransactions that MS is going to milk me of that should have been included in the game to begin with, or that I should be able to download for free.Stop thinking how this industry wants you to think. Both companies are doing bad things. Acknowledge the flaws of both. MS is almost as bad, although not as dangeous to the future of gaming, as Nintendo is when it comes to ripping off consumers.
I'm sorry, but IMO, microtransactions are going to be the most dangerous this generation which is only going to hurt the industry as well as its future, not Nintendo's Wii.
Blah blah blah... I'm emo... blah blah blah....[QUOTE="SER69"][QUOTE="FoamingPanda"]
Haha, this is so wondeful. So many Nintendo fans have become so deluded and desperate to defend a product that has sold them down the river, reversed the natural progression of this industry, and is attempting to butcher to gaming to little more than a childish plaything that they no longer care about the integrity and consumer friendlyness of this industry.
God, I hate this industry. And it's not Nintendo that I hate the most, either.
FoamingPanda
Blah blah blah... I'm an adult who has to worry about things like games staying affordable and remaining competitive with other forms of media... blah blah blah, I'm sick of seeing this sad industry remain in an intellectual torpor, and want to see gaming embraced as a meaningful and respectable form of entertainment...
Then what in are you doing here? Go outside and DO something, and stop annoying the rest of us here...The Wii remote is an accessory. Every company makes tons of money off accessories. Losing cash on console sales is one thing, but accessories are definitely sold at a profit. You think it costs any of these companies $40+ to make a controller?
This is not a special case. Think about it. The Wiimote has a $2.50 motion sensor. The other companies have controllers without motion sensors. Their controllers are priced comparably to the Wiimote. All of them make money on controller sales.
[QUOTE="FoamingPanda"]Blah blah blah... I'm emo... blah blah blah....[QUOTE="SER69"][QUOTE="FoamingPanda"]
Haha, this is so wondeful. So many Nintendo fans have become so deluded and desperate to defend a product that has sold them down the river, reversed the natural progression of this industry, and is attempting to butcher to gaming to little more than a childish plaything that they no longer care about the integrity and consumer friendlyness of this industry.
God, I hate this industry. And it's not Nintendo that I hate the most, either.
SER69
Blah blah blah... I'm an adult who has to worry about things like games staying affordable and remaining competitive with other forms of media... blah blah blah, I'm sick of seeing this sad industry remain in an intellectual torpor, and want to see gaming embraced as a meaningful and respectable form of entertainment...
Then what in are you doing here? Go outside and DO something, and stop annoying the rest of us here...Actually, this post is worth more than all my ignored posts... People these days complain,complain,complain,complain
And don't do anything about it... If you were just bashing one console, fine. Don't buy it. You did something. BUt you're bashing the entire industry... Do something about it then... Don't buy any console, or something...
The Wii remote is an accessory. Every company makes tons of money off accessories. Losing cash on console sales is one thing, but accessories are definitely sold at a profit. You think it costs any of these companies $40+ to make a controller?
This is not a special case. Think about it. The Wiimote has a $2.50 motion sensor. The other companies have controllers without motion sensors. Their controllers are priced comparably to the Wiimote. All of them make money on controller sales.
sonicmj1
Exaclty, ask a retail employee what their discount is off a console. Nothing. Then ask about their discounts on the controllers. Between 10-50% off. The Wiimote costs more than 2.50 to make but stores also mark the product up by a great deal (10-50%).
I guess in system wars stores like Target and GameStop don't make money off the items they sell, because no one seems to acknowledge they mark prices up.
[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]The Wii remote is an accessory. Every company makes tons of money off accessories. Losing cash on console sales is one thing, but accessories are definitely sold at a profit. You think it costs any of these companies $40+ to make a controller?
This is not a special case. Think about it. The Wiimote has a $2.50 motion sensor. The other companies have controllers without motion sensors. Their controllers are priced comparably to the Wiimote. All of them make money on controller sales.
cametall
Exaclty, ask a retail employee what their discount is off a console. Nothing. Then ask about their discounts on the controllers. Between 10-50% off. The Wiimote costs more than 2.50 to make but stores also mark the product up by a great deal (10-50%).
I guess in system wars stores like Target and GameStop don't make money off the items they sell, because no one seems to acknowledge they mark prices up.
Actually, they make their real money from their used games scams...
[QUOTE="SmashBrosLegend"][QUOTE="t2wave"]Sooo....what about the rest of it?Willy105
I'm glad someone else in this thread is capable of thought.
Thought?
Umm..you do know that you are in SYSTEM WARS, right?
Don't ruin the fun for everybody else.
This statement indicates, that you are yourself incabable of cognisant thought. As such, you entertain delusions by being misguided, and intend to do the same to others in pursuit of making yourself feel better about buying a PS3 which you wish you had the guts to defenestate.
[QUOTE="cametall"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"]The Wii remote is an accessory. Every company makes tons of money off accessories. Losing cash on console sales is one thing, but accessories are definitely sold at a profit. You think it costs any of these companies $40+ to make a controller?
This is not a special case. Think about it. The Wiimote has a $2.50 motion sensor. The other companies have controllers without motion sensors. Their controllers are priced comparably to the Wiimote. All of them make money on controller sales.
ssbfalco
Exaclty, ask a retail employee what their discount is off a console. Nothing. Then ask about their discounts on the controllers. Between 10-50% off. The Wiimote costs more than 2.50 to make but stores also mark the product up by a great deal (10-50%).
I guess in system wars stores like Target and GameStop don't make money off the items they sell, because no one seems to acknowledge they mark prices up.
Actually, they make their real money from their used games scams...
Target and BestBuy don't sell used games. Circuit City only marks games up by 5 bucks and consoles are sold at cost. Where is the money coming from? Accesories, that is why they try so hard to get you to buy extra stuff.
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