Fable 2 Not As Visually Impressive As You'd Expect.

Fable 2 has been getting enormous hype on this board (mainly from individuals rather than a paticular type of fanboy, but I digress), not only for its gameplay but for its visuals as well. However, these aren't as good as certain people would like you to think.

The following images are taken from the official Fable 2 website (http://www.lionhead.com/fable2/screenshots.html) and are the latest images available.



Note the poor quality textures of the clothes and flags on the bridge. The swords look as if they are made of leather and many of the metal objects such as the guns have ridiculous amounts of bloom. The trees and leaves seem very cartoony and plastic.The planks of wood that make up the bridge lack any detail of any kind, meaning this detail we've been told about isn't present so far. Even the grass textures are dissapointing, the dirt simply melds straight into it like an ugly PS2 game.

Granted, this could simply be a bad image, so let's move on...

Once again, notice the lack of any detail in the character's skin and clothes as well as the unnecessary bloom on the man's shirt. The grass tufts with blue flowers in the middle of the picture are very flat and 2D looking. The hut once again lacks any grainy wood textures, making it seem very cartoony and plastic like the trees in the previous image. And again, we can notice many 'jaggies' in the picture.

"Buh...buh...but you only showed two pictures :cry:"

Damage control? Sure, let's see another.


Here we have a prime example of ugly, lazy texture work. The bushes in the bottom left corner are completely undetailed and could be from a Gamecube game. The barrels lack any wood textures and are simply a brown colour - still lacking the detail promised. Hobbes' clothes are flat textures and have no cloth detail. The grass and dirt once again melds into each other and look very last-gen. If we study the image as a whole we can see the over-usage of bloom throughout.

It's certainly not the worst looking game ever made, but it certainly doesn't live up to the hype so far. With claims that it looks better than Crysis, and boasts of "120,000 leaves per tree" the game is dissapointing. Here's hoping they put far more work into it and it ends up looking like this, like the hype expects.

You should try to avoid judging games before you see them in motion, since this could be impressive if like a hundred other things are happening with equal detail.

but yeah, those screens suck. I can't believe that was taken from the official website.

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And I wish I had a rig to run Crysis that good, I mean..mine can do it. Just..it..doesn't move. Ever. 0.67FPS :D

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The graphics are, once again, too cartoony and pretty unnatural for a game that will most likely recieve a "mature" rating. It's more like a touched-up WoW than a visual masterpiece.Killer_Wuggles

The graphics are, once again, too cartoony and pretty unnatural for a game that will most likely recieve a "mature" rating. It's more like a touched-up WoW than a visual masterpiece.Killer_Wuggles

Did anyone other than that Saolin guy say it looked better than Crysis? :?Vyse_The_Daring

Fable 2 has been getting enormous hype on this board (mainly from individuals rather than a paticular type of fanboy, but I digress), not only for its gameplay but for its visuals as well.

Taalon

If the hype is coming from just a couple of deluded individuals, why would you feel the need to start a whole new thread to target them? Or maybe you just enjoy bashing games for no reason?

Those screens look horrible.

Color me dissapointed.:(

[QUOTE="Killer_Wuggles"]The graphics are, once again, too cartoony and pretty unnatural for a game that will most likely recieve a "mature" rating. It's more like a touched-up WoW than a visual masterpiece.FrozenLiquid

I didn't say that. It being cartoony is one thing, but the textures are pretty bad and there are quite a lot of jaggies. Also, it seems to have that same brown tint and bloom effect going on with so many console titles.

EDIT: And did I ever talk about a Kirby game being a visual masterpiece, or even mention anything about Kirby? No, so stop putting words in my mouth.

Way to find the crappiest images you could find. I don't think Fable 2 looks better than Crysis, but it is pretty damn close. The screenshots don'r do the game any justice.TMontana1004

I think I have seen all fable 2 screens, thx to saolin, how can you say that fable 2 graphic are even close to Crysis level? Fanboyism aside please...

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Killer_Wuggles"]The graphics are, once again, too cartoony and pretty unnatural for a game that will most likely recieve a "mature" rating. It's more like a touched-up WoW than a visual masterpiece.Killer_Wuggles

I didn't say that. It being cartoony is one thing, but the textures are pretty bad and there are quite a lot of jaggies. Also, it seems to have that same brown tint and bloom effect going on with so many console titles.

Like I said, the screenshot do not do this game any justice.

[QUOTE="Taalon"]

Fable 2 has been getting enormous hype on this board (mainly from individuals rather than a paticular type of fanboy, but I digress), not only for its gameplay but for its visuals as well.

kentlucky

If the hype is coming from just a couple of deluded individuals, why would you feel the need to start a whole new thread to target them? Or maybe you just enjoy bashing games for no reason?

Way to find the crappiest images you could find. I don't think Fable 2 looks better than Crysis, but it is pretty damn close. The screenshots don'r do the game any justice.TMontana1004

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Killer_Wuggles"]The graphics are, once again, too cartoony and pretty unnatural for a game that will most likely recieve a "mature" rating. It's more like a touched-up WoW than a visual masterpiece.Killer_Wuggles

I didn't say that. It being cartoony is one thing, but the textures are pretty bad and there are quite a lot of jaggies. Also, it seems to have that same brown tint and bloom effect going on with so many console titles.

EDIT: And did I ever talk about a Kirby game being a visual masterpiece, or even mention anything about Kirby? No, so stop putting words in my mouth.

why are u comparing fable 2 too crysis?!?!?!??!?!?!??!LibertySaint

The TC has no idea what he is talking about. Fable 2 is not trying to go for photo-realistic graphiccs like crysis does, but more of a fantasy look which looks damn good by the screenshots and will look even better in motion no doubt. The only real person around SW that is hyping this game through "the roof" is saolin and thats his opinion. For me im pretty excited about the game too since the first one was pretty cool but im not gonna put its graphics on crysis level but for art design its pretty even.

[QUOTE="Killer_Wuggles"]

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Killer_Wuggles"]The graphics are, once again, too cartoony and pretty unnatural for a game that will most likely recieve a "mature" rating. It's more like a touched-up WoW than a visual masterpiece.FrozenLiquid

I didn't say that. It being cartoony is one thing, but the textures are pretty bad and there are quite a lot of jaggies. Also, it seems to have that same brown tint and bloom effect going on with so many console titles.

EDIT: And did I ever talk about a Kirby game being a visual masterpiece, or even mention anything about Kirby? No, so stop putting words in my mouth.

You're trying to imply that I think Kirby games are visual masterpieces, judging from your response on my avatar, which is putting words in my mouth. And being a touched-up WoW means more than just being a pretty cartoon world. It means that the towns look more like something from a picture book than a real contender with Crysis. It's very funny that people like Saolin are trying to say that Fable 2 is a technical masterpiece when its unrealistic world will most likely be a contender with Kameo or Mario Galaxy.

The TC posted pictures of Fable 2 compared to Crysis, and from those pictures I can easily say that Fable 2 looks much worse. I have also seen the gameplay videos and they don't look nearly as impressive as Crysis's.

The TC has no idea what he is talking about. Fable 2 is not trying to go for photo-realistic graphiccs like crysis does, but more of a fantasy look which looks damn good by the screenshots and will look even better in motion no doubt. The only real person around SW that is hyping this game through "the roof" is saolin and thats his opinion. For me im pretty excited about the game too since the first one was pretty cool but im not gonna put its graphics on crysis level but for art design its pretty even.

CrimsonBlade360

The TC has no idea what he is talking about. Fable 2 is not trying to go for photo-realistic graphiccs like crysis does, but more of a fantasy look which looks damn good by the screenshots and will look even better in motion no doubt. The only real person around SW that is hyping this game through "the roof" is saolin and thats his opinion. For me im pretty excited about the game too since the first one was pretty cool but im not gonna put its graphics on crysis level but for art design its pretty even.

CrimsonBlade360

We're aware the game is going for a cartoony look, but the character models aren't very good and are pretty ugly. Also, people like TMontana and, of course, Saolin are trying to compare Fable 2 to Crysis. In terms of art design, you may have a point, but in pure technical graphics Crysis wins without a doubt.

Why are we comparing Fable 2 to Crysis anyway? Crysis of course look better, but Fable 2 is aiming at the cartoon like style.Wanderer5

Why are we comparing Fable 2 to Crysis? :|dream431ca

The only thing that makes fable look ALRIGHT is the lighting.. Look how crappy the textures are..

Here are some Shots i took of crysis last night.. BEAUTIFUL

mmm...

You're trying to imply that I think Kirby games are visual masterpieces, judging from your response on my avatar, which is putting words in my mouth. And being a touched-up WoW means more than just being a pretty cartoon world. It means that the towns look more like something from a picture book than a real contender with Crysis. It's very funny that people like Saolin are trying to say that Fable 2 is a technical masterpiece when its unrealistic world will most likely be a contender with Kameo or Mario Galaxy.

The TC posted pictures of Fable 2 compared to Crysis, and from those pictures I can easily say that Fable 2 looks much worse. I have also seen the gameplay videos and they don't look nearly as impressive as Crysis's.

Killer_Wuggles

[QUOTE="Killer_Wuggles"]

You're trying to imply that I think Kirby games are visual masterpieces, judging from your response on my avatar, which is putting words in my mouth. And being a touched-up WoW means more than just being a pretty cartoon world. It means that the towns look more like something from a picture book than a real contender with Crysis. It's very funny that people like Saolin are trying to say that Fable 2 is a technical masterpiece when its unrealistic world will most likely be a contender with Kameo or Mario Galaxy.

The TC posted pictures of Fable 2 compared to Crysis, and from those pictures I can easily say that Fable 2 looks much worse. I have also seen the gameplay videos and they don't look nearly as impressive as Crysis's.

FrozenLiquid

you failed once I saw that you were comparing a console game to crysis.NFJSupreme

you do realize some people think fable 2 looks better then crysis right?

you failed once I saw that you were comparing a console game to crysis.NFJSupreme

[QUOTE="Wanderer5"]Why are we comparing Fable 2 to Crysis anyway? Crysis of course look better, but Fable 2 is aiming at the cartoon like style.Taalon

Yeah I just notice that. Wow that is just stupid. But do we really need to talk about this over and over again? It seems there have been quite a few threads about this.

All this thread is doing is stirring the pot of an argument that needed to die far too many threads ago. Way to propogate what you are trying to stop, TC. Sometimes it is just best to leave it alone, rather than to continue to beat a dead horse, man.

Beings it has started again, however, I will add this. The fact that Crysis is technically superior to Fable 2 graphically should be common knowledge, but the fact that some people may prefer the artstyle of Fable 2 more cannot be disputed. As that is merely a matter of personal taste. And besides, Fable 2 is not finished, as of yet. And for an unfinished console game, it is indeed looking great, and the artstyle, rather than the technical prowess (which is looking fairly good as well) is pleasing to the eyes of many.

Just because an unfinished game is not up to your graphical standards, it does not mean that it will end up looking bad when it is finished. You are aware that most of the intricate graphical work and polish is the last thing that devs do, right? And in Fable 2's defense, it has not even got a confirmed release date yet. So let's just wait and see the final product before just basing our final call on the graphics upon a few screens of a game that is still in development. What do you say?

All this thread is doing is stirring the pot of an argument that needed to die far too many threads ago. Way to propogate what you are trying to stop, TC. Sometimes it is just best to leave it alone, rather than to continue to beat a dead horse, man.

Beings it has started again, however, I will add this. The fact that Crysis is technically superior to Fable 2 graphically should be common knowledge, but the fact that some people may prefer the artstyle of Fable 2 more cannot be disputed. As that is merely a matter of personal taste. And besides, Fable 2 is not finished, as of yet. And for an unfinished console game, it is indeed looking great, and the artstyle, rather than the technical prowess (which is looking fairly good as well) is pleasing to the eyes of many.

Just because an unfinished game is not up to your graphical standards, it does not mean that it will end up looking bad when it is finished. You are aware that most of the intricate graphical work and polish is the last thing that devs do, right? And in Fable 2's defense, it has not even got a confirmed release date yet. So let's just wait and see the final product before just basing our final call on the graphics upon a few screens of a game that is still in development. What do you say?

ironcreed

It's stupid for saolin to compare it to Crysis but the game actually does look very nice in motion.Juggernaut140

In terms of graphics,

Crysis >>> Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank and GT5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fable 2

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]It's stupid for saolin to compare it to Crysis but the game actually does look very nice in motion.Taalon

Then why did you? :?

[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]It's stupid for saolin to compare it to Crysis but the game actually does look very nice in motion.Juggernaut140

Then why did you? :?

yeah TC threw in an extra kick.

I'd actually like the way the game looked, if it didn't have rediculous levels of bloom. I mean, I can understand using it a little bit to benefit the art styIe, but some of those people look like their skin is made out of the sun, or something.MetroidPrimePwn

I once read in a magazine, that having skin that was made out of the sun, caused cancer.

....sits back with popcorn and awaits Saolin to enter.ironcreed

yup exactly

[QUOTE="CrimsonBlade360"]

The TC has no idea what he is talking about. Fable 2 is not trying to go for photo-realistic graphiccs like crysis does, but more of a fantasy look which looks damn good by the screenshots and will look even better in motion no doubt. The only real person around SW that is hyping this game through "the roof" is saolin and thats his opinion. For me im pretty excited about the game too since the first one was pretty cool but im not gonna put its graphics on crysis level but for art design its pretty even.

Taalon