Fact: The PC does not have any AAAA to date. Consoles have lots of em' XD

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#1 sdu_1111
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HELLO everyone ! I was looking at system wars, i see threads like "PC has jumped out further in the lead.", "PC Gaming Owns Your Soul! 2008! ( 56K , no love you. ) " "Dethroning the Console Graphics King (56k genocide) ..

So i was thinking.... OH really !? Oh Jesus, I jsut HAVE TO play some PC games !!

SO i went to check out what top games PC had. SO i filtered the GS's list to PC.

guess what!?

OMGzz... THE TOP GAME IS DIABLO .. 9.6.. and prob GTA3, VC and SA.

To date since GAMESPOT.com opened .....there hasn't been any AAAA for PC !!!

OMG !!! how can it be trueeEEEE ...

Then i check out consoles AAAA ... SO MANY ~!!

hahaha.

Fact: The PC does not have any AAAA to date. Consoles have lots of em' XD

Agree? no?

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#2 flowdee79
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GTA IV is the only console AAAA I recall, am I missing something?
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#3 sdu_1111
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no no ... last gen. last last gen .... my grandpa's gen... watever Gen. Consoles all have AAAAs ... PC 0 !

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GTA IV is the only console AAAA I recall, am I missing something?flowdee79

the only other one i can think of is Legend of zelda: ocarina of time

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The only place handing out AAAA are websites like this. If you go to places like Gamerankings I would love for you to name one game that is rated perfect as a whole. No game deserves a AAAA in my opinion and those who hand them out are usually borderline shameful.
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#6 Andrew_Xavier
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[QUOTE="flowdee79"]GTA IV is the only console AAAA I recall, am I missing something?Kansrite

the only other one i can think of is Legend of zelda: ocarina of time

Soul Caliber, Tony Hawk 3, Chrono Cross.

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=games&mode=all&sort=score&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc

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#7 flowdee79
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[QUOTE="flowdee79"]GTA IV is the only console AAAA I recall, am I missing something?Kansrite

the only other one i can think of is Legend of zelda: ocarina of time

Oh I thought he was talking about this gen.

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[QUOTE="flowdee79"]GTA IV is the only console AAAA I recall, am I missing something?Kansrite

the only other one i can think of is Legend of zelda: ocarina of time

also tony hawks on the dreamcast i beleive

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#9 Kansrite
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[QUOTE="Kansrite"]

[QUOTE="flowdee79"]GTA IV is the only console AAAA I recall, am I missing something?Andrew_Xavier

the only other one i can think of is Legend of zelda: ocarina of time

Soul Caliber, Tony Hawk 3, Chrono Cross.

http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=games&mode=all&sort=score&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc

yeah, how could i forget!!

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#10 Blackbond
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Well you are right but the Gamecube had the most GOTY titles of any console I think. And look how that turned out.
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#11 chansaet
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[QUOTE="Kansrite"]

[QUOTE="flowdee79"]GTA IV is the only console AAAA I recall, am I missing something?beerm_basic

the only other one i can think of is Legend of zelda: ocarina of time

also tony hawks on the dreamcast i beleive

No Tony Hawk 2 for the PS2 got a 10

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#12 sdu_1111
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The only place handing out AAAA are websites like this. If you go to places like Gamerankings I would love for you to name one game that is rated perfect as a whole. No game deserves a AAAA in my opinion and those who hand them out are usually borderline shameful.Jade_Monkey

Hey! how dare you call gamespot, ign, POMUK, 1UP, Gameradar, Gamespy, Game informer,G4 tV, Game planet, edge, EGM, giant bomb, Game zero, Game pro .. how dare u call all of em' boarderline shameful! shame on u!

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[QUOTE="beerm_basic"][QUOTE="Kansrite"]

[QUOTE="flowdee79"]GTA IV is the only console AAAA I recall, am I missing something?chansaet

the only other one i can think of is Legend of zelda: ocarina of time

also tony hawks on the dreamcast i beleive

No Tony Hawk 2 for the PS2 got a 10

Nope, it was tony hawk 3 for the ps2, tony hawk 2 got 9.9...

I posted a list.

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#14 DivergeUnify
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PC's have more AAA's and AA games than you can possibly imagine.
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#15 PC360Wii
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Thanks for prooving, PC Standards are higher.

Its also funny that I can play all those AAAAs on the PC, except GTA4 which is only a matter of time.

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Thanks for prooving, PC Standards are higher.PC360Wii

this....and no matter..... your precious gta 4 wil come to the pc and once you see how much better it will be (graphics, online everything)....consolites am cry :lol:

but seriously imagine 100 person mp in liberty city? a lot more enticing than...16 person mp lulz

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#17 bobbetybob
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Like 1,000 AAA's > 300 AAA's and 5 or 6 AAAA's....
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#18 smokeydabear076
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That's cool.
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#19 sdu_1111
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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Thanks for prooving, PC Standards are higher.druglord6

this....and no matter..... your precious gta 4 wil come to the pc and once you see how much better it will be (graphics, online everything)....consolites am cry :lol:

but seriously imagine 100 person mp in liberty city? a lot more enticing than...16 person mp lulz

Hey hey

i see sour grapes.

Ur not playing GTA4 now aren't u...

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#20 Andrew_Xavier
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Thanks for prooving, PC Standards are higher.

Its also funny that I can play all those AAAAs on the PC, except GTA4 which is only a matter of time. PC360Wii

I always read that, but, like, recent reviews disprove this theory,
Mass Effect with the same textures, same story, same graphical glitches, and a slightly different psi/tech menu (since not all pcs have analog wheels, it would have been impossible for them to keep it the same), and a minor upgrade (squad command, not control, which was darn near present in x360, since you could control which guns your team used, and when they used psi/techs), was rated higher on the PC than on the x360. If PC had higher standards, wouldn't it be lower, since there were only minor changes, and the same problems were present?

Another game, Bioshock, exact same release date, exact same game, exact same score, wouldn't higher standards put it at a lower score on the PC than on the consoles?

As per your new point, none of the aformentioned games *soul caliber, chrono cross, zelda: OoT, TH3, GTA4* have come out for the PC, not GTA4 will, that's a given, but, the others will not.

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Like 1,000 AAA's > 300 AAA's and 5 or 6 AAAA's....bobbetybob
Well I think the sad part about saying that consoles have lots of them is that you have to include like 6 different consoles and even then they don't have "lots" of AAAA games.
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#22 sdu_1111
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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Thanks for prooving, PC Standards are higher.druglord6

this....and no matter..... your precious gta 4 wil come to the pc and once you see how much better it will be (graphics, online everything)....consolites am cry :lol:

but seriously imagine 100 person mp in liberty city? a lot more enticing than...16 person mp lulz

Common.. let me rephrase what you typed in 3 lines ...

"JUST WAIT"

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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Thanks for prooving, PC Standards are higher.druglord6

this....and no matter..... your precious gta 4 wil come to the pc and once you see how much better it will be (graphics, online everything)....consolites am cry :lol:

but seriously imagine 100 person mp in liberty city? a lot more enticing than...16 person mp lulz

rockstar said they have no plans for gta4 on pc. have fun waiting

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#24 sdu_1111
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[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Like 1,000 AAA's > 300 AAA's and 5 or 6 AAAA's....smokeydabear076
Well I think the sad part about saying that consoles have lots of them is that you have to include like 6 different consoles and even then they don't have "lots" of AAAA games.

hey hey hey .... Tony hawk and crono cross runs on the ps3 doesn't it.

den again, even if you build a billion dollar gaming rig it won't run anything AAAA on it, cause it doesn't have one =P

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#25 smokeydabear076
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[QUOTE="druglord6"]

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Thanks for prooving, PC Standards are higher.sdu_1111

this....and no matter..... your precious gta 4 wil come to the pc and once you see how much better it will be (graphics, online everything)....consolites am cry :lol:

but seriously imagine 100 person mp in liberty city? a lot more enticing than...16 person mp lulz

Common.. let me rephrase what you typed in 3 lines ...

"JUST WAIT"

Oh and you didn't wait for GTAIV? It just came out the day it was announced, right? Sure you will have to wait longer for some games, but it is better than not getting the game at all.
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#26 sdu_1111
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[QUOTE="sdu_1111"][QUOTE="druglord6"]

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Thanks for prooving, PC Standards are higher.smokeydabear076

this....and no matter..... your precious gta 4 wil come to the pc and once you see how much better it will be (graphics, online everything)....consolites am cry :lol:

but seriously imagine 100 person mp in liberty city? a lot more enticing than...16 person mp lulz

Common.. let me rephrase what you typed in 3 lines ...

"JUST WAIT"

Oh and you didn't wait for GTAIV? It just came out the day it was announced, right? Sure you will have to wait longer for some games, but it is better than not getting the game at all.

Yup, consolites have the game now. Solely PC gamers are still waiting after a month, with no news that GTA4 is going to PC.

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#27 Jade_Monkey
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Yup, consolites have the game now. Solely PC gamers are still waiting after a month, with no news that GTA4 is going to PC.

sdu_1111

No problem, I got lots of games to keep me busy until GTA IV releases on PC.

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#28 proud722
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This is just one site, generally I don't think a pc game could get AAAA on this site though. Complicated controls, high system requirements, install times and so on are all things pc games are more vunerable to consoles when it comes to reviewing. Also perhaps more complicated controls and steeper learning curves go hand in hand. But if you are prepared to take the few minor set backs of the pc theres always one thing that seperates the pc from consoles, mods.

Basically I think pc games suffer in score because there not always new user friendly while most console games are idiot proof to get started with at least. But yeah sometimes its worth dealing with these set backs just to get the longer generally overall technically better experience.

Edit: and I suppose if you have that kind of pc technically better graphics wise and such, not that I'm the type of person to ask about that kinda stuff :P

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#29 smokeydabear076
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Yup, consolites have the game now. Solely PC gamers are still waiting after a month, with no news that GTA4 is going to PC.

sdu_1111
Yeah it might not even come to the PC.
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Like 1,000 AAA's > 300 AAA's and 5 or 6 AAAA's....sdu_1111

Well I think the sad part about saying that consoles have lots of them is that you have to include like 6 different consoles and even then they don't have "lots" of AAAA games.

hey hey hey .... Tony hawk and crono cross runs on the ps3 doesn't it.

den again, even if you build a billion dollar gaming rig it won't run anything AAAA on it, cause it doesn't have one =P

It has plenty in my book. :P
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#31 -Skeletor-
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GTAIV is coming to PC.. it's the same story that happened with San Andreas which took like 6-8 months for them to announce a PC version so the PS2 one didn't get hit in sales.. microsoft would push for it too with their whole "games for windows" so they can make money on vista with another killer DX10 title.

PC gamers have plenty of time to wait with the killer lineup already on the system... it's worth 100+ players playing on a map instead of crappy 16 like it's 1999 or something..

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#32 haols
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Just about all of those AAAA games are at least previous gen games, sometimes even longer inte the past.

Some of them, I look especially at TH3 and SC have not aged very well at all.
Anyone in his/her right mind would prefer a current gen AA+ game. . . .
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[QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Like 1,000 AAA's > 300 AAA's and 5 or 6 AAAA's....smokeydabear076
Well I think the sad part about saying that consoles have lots of them is that you have to include like 6 different consoles and even then they don't have "lots" of AAAA games.

Exactly. 1 console will never beat out the PC overall, in fact, has a console so far beat the PC in terms of AAA's? I think not.

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#34 killab2oo5
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Thanks for prooving, PC Standards are higher.

PC360Wii
I don't know why the the PC has no 10's...the standards weren't always high. Also,console standards aren't low. T_T Some people on this board act like console can't have masterpieces when they actually have a plenty.It's no easy task for a PC game to get a 10,and the same goes for console games.
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"][QUOTE="bobbetybob"]Like 1,000 AAA's > 300 AAA's and 5 or 6 AAAA's....bobbetybob

Well I think the sad part about saying that consoles have lots of them is that you have to include like 6 different consoles and even then they don't have "lots" of AAAA games.

Exactly. 1 console will never beat out the PC overall, in fact, has a console so far beat the PC in terms of AAA's? I think not.

Nope and I would rather have more games to play than just one, but maybe that is just me.
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Too bad StarCraft, Baldur's Gate 2, and Diablo are better than all those 5 AAAAe's combined....

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fact i stoped playing gta4, the AAAA game,
fact im still playing my older pc games
fact pc has higher standards
fact pc is the best platform
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Oh and those games bolded? theyre all on the PC, you will have to use your noggin for this one, I cant advertise "These activities". But then again I still do them. PC360Wii
T_T Isn't that illegal?
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#40 PC360Wii
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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]

Thanks for prooving, PC Standards are higher.

killab2oo5

I don't know why the the PC has no 10's...the standards weren't always high. Also,console standards aren't low. T_T Some people on this board act like console can't have masterpieces when they actually have a plenty.It's no easy task for a PC game to get a 10,and the same goes for console games.

True enough, but I think its safe to say that Commercially acceptable games always get rated higher then the greatest of non commerical games.

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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Oh and those games bolded? theyre all on the PC, you will have to use your noggin for this one, I cant advertise "These activities". But then again I still do them. killab2oo5
T_T Isn't that illegal?

I'm not advertising, so I shouldnt be banned I hope , but yes, yes it is, but then, I doubt anybody cares really, about older games like that being emulated, I doubt the police in my area would even know what it is :lol:

Its great, I can play every single PC game, and every console game PS2 and backwards ( PS2 isnt quite there yet though ).

I laugh at all the virtual console hype, welcome to around 7-8 years ago.

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#42 Andrew_Xavier
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[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Thanks for prooving, PC Standards are higher.

Its also funny that I can play all those AAAAs on the PC, except GTA4 which is only a matter of time. PC360Wii

I always read that, but, like, recent reviews disprove this theory,
Mass Effect with the same textures, same story, same graphical glitches, and a slightly different psi/tech menu (since not all pcs have analog wheels, it would have been impossible for them to keep it the same), and a minor upgrade (squad command, not control, which was darn near present in x360, since you could control which guns your team used, and when they used psi/techs), was rated higher on the PC than on the x360. If PC had higher standards, wouldn't it be lower, since there were only minor changes, and the same problems were present?

Another game, Bioshock, exact same release date, exact same game, exact same score, wouldn't higher standards put it at a lower score on the PC than on the consoles?

As per your new point, none of the aformentioned games *soul caliber, chrono cross, zelda: OoT, TH3, GTA4* have come out for the PC, not GTA4 will, that's a given, but, the others will not.

I agree with your first part, EXCEPT the mass effect example, seeing as I believe that the NEW reviewers are trying to meet the average review score more ( Assassins Creed was marked higher on PC in most places, but got lower ehre to match the average ).

Likely I guess, I would have given Mass E a much higher score out of the gate myself, so, it's good they are matching other reviews, but, I still don't believe, even though I play games on my PC *currently, mass effect, lol*, that the PC has higher standards. Assassin's Creed PC was horribly optimized, I'm sure it lost a bunch for that.

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#43 Toriko42
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GTA IV
Chrono Trigger
Soul Caliber
Orcarina of Time
Tony Hawks Proskater 3

The 5 AAAA titles
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#44 the_ChEeSe_mAn2
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I never played any of the AAAA games and I don't think I am missing out on much. Just because the reviewers were having an orgasm over those AAAA games, doesn't mean I will enjoy them as well.
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#45 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"]

Thanks for prooving, PC Standards are higher.

PC360Wii

I don't know why the the PC has no 10's...the standards weren't always high. Also,console standards aren't low. T_T Some people on this board act like console can't have masterpieces when they actually have a plenty.It's no easy task for a PC game to get a 10,and the same goes for console games.

True enough, but I think its safe to say that Commercially acceptable games always get rated higher then the greatest of non commerical games.

Agreed. Reviewers are too scared to give a game a score different from the majority,because they'll be criticized. ":lol:Oh,they overrated that game!They're a joke!" or ":lol:Oh,they underrated that game!How can we take them seriously now?!LULZ!"

But with not so popular games they score them how they like...usually lower to even things out. "Meh,no one will care about this game."

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#46 dgsag
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5 AAAAs dont nearly make up for the AAA deficit. :|
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#47 gamer620
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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Thanks for prooving, PC Standards are higher.

Its also funny that I can play all those AAAAs on the PC, except GTA4 which is only a matter of time. Andrew_Xavier

I always read that, but, like, recent reviews disprove this theory,
Mass Effect with the same textures, same story, same graphical glitches, and a slightly different psi/tech menu (since not all pcs have analog wheels, it would have been impossible for them to keep it the same), and a minor upgrade (squad command, not control, which was darn near present in x360, since you could control which guns your team used, and when they used psi/techs), was rated higher on the PC than on the x360. If PC had higher standards, wouldn't it be lower, since there were only minor changes, and the same problems were present?

Mass Effect recieved a higher score on the PC simply because it PLAYS better. I wouldn't call the Interface and control tweaks minor. I would say next to the glitches i encounted in the game, the 2nd biggest problem were the controls and interface. And i am pretty sure MOST if not ALL the glitches have been removed for the PC version. I haven't heard anything about graphic pop-in, and I certainly haven't heard anything about the game having its game ending bugs like the 360 version had. In my opinion, the fixes that the PC version adds definitely makes the game AAA in my books. I always thought Gamespot's original review was spot on given the issues I had with the game.

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#48 NerdMan
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:lol: So is this the new consolite defense? Teh AAAAAASs!
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#49 Andrew_Xavier
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[QUOTE="Andrew_Xavier"]

[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]Thanks for prooving, PC Standards are higher.

Its also funny that I can play all those AAAAs on the PC, except GTA4 which is only a matter of time. gamer620

I always read that, but, like, recent reviews disprove this theory,
Mass Effect with the same textures, same story, same graphical glitches, and a slightly different psi/tech menu (since not all pcs have analog wheels, it would have been impossible for them to keep it the same), and a minor upgrade (squad command, not control, which was darn near present in x360, since you could control which guns your team used, and when they used psi/techs), was rated higher on the PC than on the x360. If PC had higher standards, wouldn't it be lower, since there were only minor changes, and the same problems were present?

Mass Effect recieved a higher score on the PC simply because it PLAYS better. I wouldn't call the Interface and control tweaks minor. I would say next to the glitches i encounted in the game, the 2nd biggest problem were the controls and interface. And i am pretty sure MOST if not ALL the glitches have been removed for the PC version. I haven't heard anything about graphic pop-in, and I certainly haven't heard anything about the game having its game ending bugs like the 360 version had. In my opinion, the fixes that the PC version adds definitely makes the game AAA in my books. I always thought Gamespot's original review was spot on given the issues I had with the game.

I wouldn't say it plays better, and I never experienced any "game ending glitches" in my x360 version, and no reviews mentioned any, but, they are pretty much the same game, with a different fit interface for each, one is a console interface, one is a pc interface, owning both, I can say that the pc version is simply the x360 game, with some pc fitting on it.

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#50 smokeydabear076
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:lol: So is this the new consolite defense? Teh AAAAAASs!NerdMan
Yes! When PCs are involved they unite!