Fallout 3 - Eurogamer comparison. Slightly surprising... PS3 has more detail!!!

Whilst there is no doubt that the 360 version of Fallout 3 looks and plays slightly better, Eurogame found some interesting things in their comparison:

The PS3 version, whilst lacking AA is fully v-synced whilst the 360 version is not. also, they write:

"Certain texture-based lighting effects are totally absent on Xbox 360, making characters and creatures look more flat than on PS3 and PC. Detailing on selected textures looks to have been reduced, and complexity of rocks when viewed close up also reveals a paring down of detail here. In terms of elements that are actually noticeable during gameplay, these differences can also extend to the close-ups with the in-game characters - hair in particular looks nicer on PS3, metallic items look more... metallic. In short, PS3 and PC have an extra sheen of detailing that's missing on Xbox 360. "

I post this as I found it interesting. I am not disputing that the 360 version plays better. I wonder if they will patch it and give the option to turn off v-sync on the ps3 version. doing this can give FPS a massive increase.

To summarise, Eurogamer said: The PS3 version does not run as well as the 360 version, but from a technical standpoint, it is doing a lot more .

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=285507&page=3

still not getting this though. too many other good games.

no... turning off V-Sync pretty much always give a big increase in Frames per second. ask any PC gamer. thetruespin

That's if your game is already running smoothly...from my knowledge at least.

the problem is the PS3 var is the bugs and low FPS and texture pops

this problems have bad effects to the gameplay and thats why the PS3 var got lower scores

and btw every ather review say that the X360 also looks better

the problem is the PS3 var is the bugs and low FPS and texture pops

this problems have bad effects to the gameplay and thats why the PS3 var got lower scores

and btw every ather review say that the X360 also looks better

Nisim19

not exactly true.. some have said the ps3 and the pc version "look" better... but in motion yes, the 360 version easily wins.

[QUOTE="Nisim19"]

the problem is the PS3 var is the bugs and low FPS and texture pops

this problems have bad effects to the gameplay and thats why the PS3 var got lower scores

and btw every ather review say that the X360 also looks better

thetruespin

not exactly true.. they said the ps3 and the pc version "look" better... but in motion yes, the 360 version easily wins.

Links

And u forgot to tell how crappy the framerates are on the ps3 :lol: i rather play a game with good framarates than the slide shows version :lol:MojondeVACA

umm... no, thats why we talked about V-Sync. basically, the PS3 version could have much better framerates if v-sync wasnt locked... like on the 360 version.

[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="Nisim19"]

the problem is the PS3 var is the bugs and low FPS and texture pops

this problems have bad effects to the gameplay and thats why the PS3 var got lower scores

and btw every ather review say that the X360 also looks better

Englandfc1966

not exactly true.. they said the ps3 and the pc version "look" better... but in motion yes, the 360 version easily wins.

Links

dude.. im not getting into this. eurogamer are well known for their technical comparisons. and they have stated that:

In terms of elements that are actually noticeable during gameplay, these differences can also extend to the close-ups with the in-game characters - hair in particular looks nicer on PS3, metallic items look more... metallic. In short, PS3 and PC have an extra sheen of detailing that's missing on Xbox 360.

that said, i would still rather play the 360 version as it has better framerates.

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]no... turning off V-Sync pretty much always give a big increase in Frames per second. ask any PC gamer. Espada12

That's if your game is already running smoothly...from my knowledge at least.

So? What version plays better with a better frame-rate? Exactly.KinderChimp

yawn.. you clearly did not finish reading my post: I said....

I post this as I found it interesting. I am not disputing that the 360 version plays better.

And u forgot to tell how crappy the framerates are on the ps3 :lol: i rather play a game with good framarates than the slide shows version :lol:MojondeVACA

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When you want to make a trolling statement and bash a console/game, add :lol: smileys in random locations around your sentences to make it look more credible. This usually makes you look like you know what you're talking about so much, that you're laughing at your own knowledge capacity.

For an example, see the troll above.

And u forgot to tell how crappy the framerates are on the ps3 :lol: i rather play a game with good framarates than the slide shows version :lol:MojondeVACA

And u forgot to tell how crappy the framerates are on the ps3 :lol: i rather play a game with good framarates than the slide shows version :lol:MojondeVACA

no... turning off V-Sync pretty much always give a big increase in Frames per second. ask any PC gamer. thetruespin

V-sync syncrhonizes with your monitor refresh rate so you wouldn't get any tearing. If your monitor's refresh rate is 100 then with v-sync on, your maximum framerate will be 100 (if your PC is good enough to produce that amount of framerate). And yes, some people use it cause tearing in games can be quite annoying sometimes.

I played World of Warcraft with v-sync on and off and there was no real difference in framerate other than that the game didn't go higher than my monitor's refresh rate.

And u forgot to tell how crappy the framerates are on the ps3 :lol: i rather play a game with good framarates than the slide shows version :lol:MojondeVACA

Srsly, people nowadays can see a difference between 30frames and 29. "oh look it dipped a frame... WHAT A SLIDESHOW!"

Turning off V-sync = better FPS

if you turn off v-sync, the next frame can be drawed even if the current frame is incomplete. as such, this pretty much always increases performance.. sometimes massively. the downside is that you can sometimes get screen tearing.

the lack of V-sync is how the 360 manages to get a better framerate.. in short, it cheats a bit. the ps3 version will never draw the next frame until the last one is finished. so it has to do more work.

if they release a patch to turn off v-sync, the ps3 would see a big increase in fps.

There's a lot of damage control going on in here.

Whenever PS3 versions of multi-plats had the worse of the graphical detail, people would be all over that saying "bahahaha I would rather play the version where I can actually see good textures!! :lol:"

Now, when the 360 gets the graphical cuts, everyone is like, "so what, it doesn't matter, who cares.."

Hmmmmmmmm, biased much?

no... turning off V-Sync pretty much always give a big increase in Frames per second. ask any PC gamer. thetruespin

The reason why they lock is simply due to cut down on screen tear

Turning off V-sync = better FPS

if you turn off v-sync, the next frame can be drawed even if the current frame is incomplete. as such, this pretty much always increases performance.. sometimes massively. the downside is that you can sometimes get screen tearing.

the lack of V-sync is how the 360 manages to get a better framerate.. in short, it cheats a bit. the ps3 version will never draw the next frame until the last one is finished. so it has to do more work.

if they release a patch to turn off v-sync, the ps3 would see a big increase in fps.

thetruespin

In this case, the PS3 cant even manage to get to 30 FPS, so turning of V-Sync would do NOTHING

PLEASE check up before making such sweeping statements:|

[QUOTE="MojondeVACA"]And u forgot to tell how crappy the framerates are on the ps3 :lol: i rather play a game with good framarates than the slide shows version :lol:rogerjak

Srsly, people nowadays can see a difference between 30frames and 29. "oh look it dipped a frame... WHAT A SLIDESHOW!"

And teh reason why people care is simply because the PS3 owners are still so sure that the Cell squishes the 360

Whilst there is no doubt that the 360 version of Fallout 3 looks and plays slightly better, Eurogame found some interesting things in their comparison:

The PS3 version, whilst lacking AA is fully v-synced whilst the 360 version is not. also, they write:

"Certain texture-based lighting effects are totally absent on Xbox 360, making characters and creatures look more flat than on PS3 and PC. Detailing on selected textures looks to have been reduced, and complexity of rocks when viewed close up also reveals a paring down of detail here. In terms of elements that are actually noticeable during gameplay, these differences can also extend to the close-ups with the in-game characters - hair in particular looks nicer on PS3, metallic items look more... metallic. In short, PS3 and PC have an extra sheen of detailing that's missing on Xbox 360. "

I post this as I found it interesting. I am not disputing that the 360 version plays better. I wonder if they will patch it and give the option to turn off v-sync on the ps3 version. doing this can give FPS a massive increase.

To summarise, Eurogamer said: The PS3 version does not run as well as the 360 version, but from a technical standpoint, it is doing a lot more .

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=285507&page=3

thetruespin

Here's one thing you forgot to mention.

"In terms of system resources, PS3 requires a mandatory 4.2GB installation, whereas Xbox 360 owners will be able to use the New Xbox Experience dashboard upgrade to optionally install to hard disk (5.9GB - amazingly they have disc space to spare - GTA IV clocks in at 6.7GB). "

Mandatory 4.2GB load on the PS3. Yikes. I hope PS3 owners have already upgraded to a 60GB or 80GB PS3 by now.

Turning off V-sync = better FPS

if you turn off v-sync, the next frame can be drawed even if the current frame is incomplete. as such, this pretty much always increases performance.. sometimes massively. the downside is that you can sometimes get screen tearing.

the lack of V-sync is how the 360 manages to get a better framerate.. in short, it cheats a bit. the ps3 version will never draw the next frame until the last one is finished. so it has to do more work.

if they release a patch to turn off v-sync, the ps3 would see a big increase in fps.

thetruespin

I have a question. If the XBox 360 version doesn't have V-Sync turned on, is there any screen-tearing in the XBox 360 version? If not, why not. Why would there be screen tearing in the PS3 version? Just curious.

I'm going to get the XBox 360 version no matter what, but it's obvious the developers wanted to show off the games graphics if they opted to keep V-Sync turned on for the PS3 version.

The bottom line of the Eurogamer article is the 360 version has made technical choices that lead to a smoother and more playable game (0.5's worth of more playable according to GS) and the TC is painfully trying to convince people by selective quoting that the PS3 version is in fact superior. Oh dear TC, very lame. :roll:speedsix

i stated very clearly in MANY of my posts including the FIRST POST that i consider the 360 version superior.... the fact that you could not even understand this... very lame :roll:

And u forgot to tell how crappy the framerates are on the ps3 :lol: i rather play a game with good framarates than the slide shows version :lol:MojondeVACA

Then I guess you havn't played the PS3 version.

[QUOTE="speedsix"]The bottom line of the Eurogamer article is the 360 version has made technical choices that lead to a smoother and more playable game (0.5's worth of more playable according to GS) and the TC is painfully trying to convince people by selective quoting that the PS3 version is in fact superior. Oh dear TC, very lame. :roll:thetruespin

i stated very clearly in MANY of my posts including the FIRST POST that i consider the 360 version superior.... the fact that you could not even understand this... very lame :roll:

Oh please, this thread is purely damage control over the poor PS3 version of Fallout. We all know the 360 version is superior so why make another thread?

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]no... turning off V-Sync pretty much always give a big increase in Frames per second. ask any PC gamer. Supafly1

V-sync syncrhonizes with your monitor refresh rate so you wouldn't get any tearing. If your monitor's refresh rate is 100 then with v-sync on, your maximum framerate will be 100 (if your PC is good enough to produce that amount of framerate). And yes, some people use it cause tearing in games can be quite annoying sometimes.

I played World of Warcraft with v-sync on and off and there was no real difference in framerate other than that the game didn't go higher than my monitor's refresh rate.

Dost wow and it's own frame rate cap also?

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

Turning off V-sync = better FPS

if you turn off v-sync, the next frame can be drawed even if the current frame is incomplete. as such, this pretty much always increases performance.. sometimes massively. the downside is that you can sometimes get screen tearing.

the lack of V-sync is how the 360 manages to get a better framerate.. in short, it cheats a bit. the ps3 version will never draw the next frame until the last one is finished. so it has to do more work.

if they release a patch to turn off v-sync, the ps3 would see a big increase in fps.

FirstDiscovery

In this case, the PS3 cant even manage to get to 30 FPS, so turning of V-Sync would do NOTHING

PLEASE check up before making such sweeping statements:|

then please explain why in all the pc games i have played, when i turn off v-sync, the framerates increase dramatically. games like far cry 1 used to have very bad framerates on my old computer, turn off v-sync and it was silky smooth (but had tearing).

in bioshock on the 360, if i turned off v-sync i had much better framerates.. but again, tearing...

i dont think you fully understand v-sync.

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

[QUOTE="speedsix"]The bottom line of the Eurogamer article is the 360 version has made technical choices that lead to a smoother and more playable game (0.5's worth of more playable according to GS) and the TC is painfully trying to convince people by selective quoting that the PS3 version is in fact superior. Oh dear TC, very lame. :roll:speedsix

i stated very clearly in MANY of my posts including the FIRST POST that i consider the 360 version superior.... the fact that you could not even understand this... very lame :roll:

Oh please, this thread is purely damage control over the poor PS3 version of Fallout. We all know the 360 version is superior so why make another thread?

if it is an accepted "fact" that the 360 is so much superior, why do you even care? Just move along and ignore posts like these. The more you rant about it the more you present yourself as doubtful of the 360s "superiority."

[QUOTE="speedsix"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]

[QUOTE="speedsix"]The bottom line of the Eurogamer article is the 360 version has made technical choices that lead to a smoother and more playable game (0.5's worth of more playable according to GS) and the TC is painfully trying to convince people by selective quoting that the PS3 version is in fact superior. Oh dear TC, very lame. :roll:Janton3

i stated very clearly in MANY of my posts including the FIRST POST that i consider the 360 version superior.... the fact that you could not even understand this... very lame :roll:

Oh please, this thread is purely damage control over the poor PS3 version of Fallout. We all know the 360 version is superior so why make another thread?

if it is an accepted "fact" that the 360 is so much superior, why do you even care? Just move along and ignore posts like these. The more you rant about it the more you present yourself as doubtful of the 360s "superiority."

i posted this as i found it interesting. if i had to play one version, i would have to be mad to go with the ps3 one. like i said, i KNOW that the 360 version is superior. but i posted this as i am interested in the technical reasons why...

and whilst fanboys like to say "cos teh 360 is teh most powerful"... i would rather look at the facts.

[QUOTE="Janton3"][QUOTE="speedsix"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]

[QUOTE="speedsix"]The bottom line of the Eurogamer article is the 360 version has made technical choices that lead to a smoother and more playable game (0.5's worth of more playable according to GS) and the TC is painfully trying to convince people by selective quoting that the PS3 version is in fact superior. Oh dear TC, very lame. :roll:thetruespin

i stated very clearly in MANY of my posts including the FIRST POST that i consider the 360 version superior.... the fact that you could not even understand this... very lame :roll:

Oh please, this thread is purely damage control over the poor PS3 version of Fallout. We all know the 360 version is superior so why make another thread?

if it is an accepted "fact" that the 360 is so much superior, why do you even care? Just move along and ignore posts like these. The more you rant about it the more you present yourself as doubtful of the 360s "superiority."

i posted this as i found it interesting. if i had to play one version, i would have to be mad to go with the ps3 one. like i said, i KNOW that the 360 version is superior. but i posted this as i am interested in the technical reasons why...

and whilst fanboys like to say "cos teh 360 is teh most powerful"... i would rather look at the facts.

was that aimed at me? that reply to speedsix was just meant for him to shutup

and whilst fanboys like to say "cos teh 360 is teh most powerful"... i would rather look at the facts.

thetruespin

What by selectively posting certain parts of an article? Which by the way does give a pretty good insight as to why the two versions differ, you just neglected to post it.

I'd possibly believe your intentions if I hadn't read any of your previous posts.

[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="Janton3"][QUOTE="speedsix"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]

[QUOTE="speedsix"]The bottom line of the Eurogamer article is the 360 version has made technical choices that lead to a smoother and more playable game (0.5's worth of more playable according to GS) and the TC is painfully trying to convince people by selective quoting that the PS3 version is in fact superior. Oh dear TC, very lame. :roll:Janton3

i stated very clearly in MANY of my posts including the FIRST POST that i consider the 360 version superior.... the fact that you could not even understand this... very lame :roll:

Oh please, this thread is purely damage control over the poor PS3 version of Fallout. We all know the 360 version is superior so why make another thread?

if it is an accepted "fact" that the 360 is so much superior, why do you even care? Just move along and ignore posts like these. The more you rant about it the more you present yourself as doubtful of the 360s "superiority."

i posted this as i found it interesting. if i had to play one version, i would have to be mad to go with the ps3 one. like i said, i KNOW that the 360 version is superior. but i posted this as i am interested in the technical reasons why...

and whilst fanboys like to say "cos teh 360 is teh most powerful"... i would rather look at the facts.

was that aimed at me? that reply to speedsix was just meant for him to shutup

[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="Janton3"][QUOTE="speedsix"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]

[QUOTE="speedsix"]The bottom line of the Eurogamer article is the 360 version has made technical choices that lead to a smoother and more playable game (0.5's worth of more playable according to GS) and the TC is painfully trying to convince people by selective quoting that the PS3 version is in fact superior. Oh dear TC, very lame. :roll:Janton3

i stated very clearly in MANY of my posts including the FIRST POST that i consider the 360 version superior.... the fact that you could not even understand this... very lame :roll:

Oh please, this thread is purely damage control over the poor PS3 version of Fallout. We all know the 360 version is superior so why make another thread?

if it is an accepted "fact" that the 360 is so much superior, why do you even care? Just move along and ignore posts like these. The more you rant about it the more you present yourself as doubtful of the 360s "superiority."

i posted this as i found it interesting. if i had to play one version, i would have to be mad to go with the ps3 one. like i said, i KNOW that the 360 version is superior. but i posted this as i am interested in the technical reasons why...

and whilst fanboys like to say "cos teh 360 is teh most powerful"... i would rather look at the facts.

was that aimed at me? that reply to speedsix was just meant for him to shutup

sorry dude. comment was aimed at speed six. but couldn't be bothered to go up and find his post..

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]

and whilst fanboys like to say "cos teh 360 is teh most powerful"... i would rather look at the facts.

speedsix

What by selectively posting certain parts of an article? Which by the way does give a pretty good insight as to why the two versions differ, you just neglected to post it.

I'd possibly believe your intentions if I hadn't read any of your previous posts.

yes, i selected certain parts... but i provided a link to the full article

Don't care, I will once they patch they PS3 version.SnakePS360Gamer

Ah yes...the burden of all PS3 owners...the joy of playing the waiting game (even after two years).

Wait, wait wait, and then wait some more.

Wow...just WOW. You Cows are a patient bunch. My hat goes off to you guys. :?

[QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]

Turning off V-sync = better FPS

if you turn off v-sync, the next frame can be drawed even if the current frame is incomplete. as such, this pretty much always increases performance.. sometimes massively. the downside is that you can sometimes get screen tearing.

the lack of V-sync is how the 360 manages to get a better framerate.. in short, it cheats a bit. the ps3 version will never draw the next frame until the last one is finished. so it has to do more work.

if they release a patch to turn off v-sync, the ps3 would see a big increase in fps.

thetruespin

In this case, the PS3 cant even manage to get to 30 FPS, so turning of V-Sync would do NOTHING

PLEASE check up before making such sweeping statements:|

then please explain why in all the pc games i have played, when i turn off v-sync, the framerates increase dramatically. games like far cry 1 used to have very bad framerates on my old computer, turn off v-sync and it was silky smooth (but had tearing).

in bioshock on the 360, if i turned off v-sync i had much better framerates.. but again, tearing...

i dont think you fully understand v-sync.

On the 360, its not v-sync, its a FRAMERATE CAP. The 360 has the ability to go above 30 FPS and play as a 60 FPS game, also, its a ROCK SOLID 30 FPS, but at the same time, it cant maintain 30+ FPS hence the uneveness of it and the screen tear. In fact where the heck did you get the v-sync reduces framerates, again, as ive said, it CAPS it

Ive beeng gaming on PC since i was 7, im fully aware of it

[QUOTE="thetruespin"][QUOTE="FirstDiscovery"][QUOTE="thetruespin"]

Turning off V-sync = better FPS

if you turn off v-sync, the next frame can be drawed even if the current frame is incomplete. as such, this pretty much always increases performance.. sometimes massively. the downside is that you can sometimes get screen tearing.

the lack of V-sync is how the 360 manages to get a better framerate.. in short, it cheats a bit. the ps3 version will never draw the next frame until the last one is finished. so it has to do more work.

if they release a patch to turn off v-sync, the ps3 would see a big increase in fps.

FirstDiscovery

In this case, the PS3 cant even manage to get to 30 FPS, so turning of V-Sync would do NOTHING

PLEASE check up before making such sweeping statements:|

then please explain why in all the pc games i have played, when i turn off v-sync, the framerates increase dramatically. games like far cry 1 used to have very bad framerates on my old computer, turn off v-sync and it was silky smooth (but had tearing).

in bioshock on the 360, if i turned off v-sync i had much better framerates.. but again, tearing...

i dont think you fully understand v-sync.

On the 360, its not v-sync, its a FRAMERATE CAP. The 360 has the ability to go above 30 FPS and play as a 60 FPS game, also, its a ROCK SOLID 30 FPS, but at the same time, it cant maintain 30+ FPS hence the uneveness of it and the screen tear. In fact where the heck did you get the v-sync reduces framerates, again, as ive said, it CAPS it

Ive beeng gaming on PC since i was 7, im fully aware of it

Right.. taken from WIKIPEDIA.

Computer games often allow vertical synchronization as an option, because it delays the image update until the vertical blanking interval. This can cause lowered frame rates due to latency (the period of the refresh rate at maximum), which might be undesirable in games that require fast response (e.g. first person shooters).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_synchronization