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#1 Tony-Harrison
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Go to the Fallout 3 music page and listen to the three songs they have up there, and using either prior knowledge of Fallout aesthetics or personal opinion, match each song to an appropriate screenshot, like this.

http://fallout.bethsoft.com/eng/art/fallout3-screenshots1.html
Bethesda has already posted a screenshot for each song. Try to be a little imaginitive. This is only a game.


Description: Looks like a junkyard town. The building reminds me of the weapons dealer east of The Hub. The dog is probably a friendly stray.
Music: Megaton.


Description: This may be the world as soon as leave the vault.
Music: Main Theme. Previews suggest that the moment you emerge from the vault is much more dramatic than Oblivion or past Fallout games.


Description: Almost looks like a scene from Terminator 2. An enraged mutated human lurking in a destroyed plaza.
Music: Into the Wasteland. I am really hoping that Bethesda scrap the battle score for all but the biggest battles. Unlike Oblivion, there is no glory in survival in the wastelands.

This is only a game. What is your take on the similarities and dissimilarities between Fallout and Oblivion?

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I imagine similarities between Fallout 3 and Oblivion are the junk and scrap metal salvaged from old televisions or bathtubs replacing Oblivion's herb system. The player also needs to drink in Fallout 3 as confirmed by Bethesda so the player will have to find water of varying cleanliness.

A Bathtub that may contain some junk or dirty water.

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I know nothing about Fallout. What type of game is it? FPS, Action, RPG?
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#4 HummaKavula
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I know nothing about Fallout. What type of game is it? FPS, Action, RPG?HarlockJC

Fallout 1 and 2 are RPG's, Fallout 3 is a FPS.

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I know nothing about Fallout. What type of game is it? FPS, Action, RPG?HarlockJC

If you have never played Fallout before, then Oblivion with guns is a good enough description. It has a dark humour that is unique to the series.

You can watch the teaser trailer on youtube.

For a clearer picture, watch the Original Fallout Intro. It's my personal favorite PC game intro after the Original System Shock intro movie.

Both are awesome.

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#6 carlisledavid79
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Im really looking forward to fallout 3
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Looks pretty good. Seems to have that amazing atmosphere that the prior Fallouts had.
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#8 Miss_Wacy
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is it true this game has turnbased fights in it?
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I know nothing about Fallout. What type of game is it? FPS, Action, RPG?HummaKavula

Fallout 1 and 2 are RPG's, Fallout 3 is a FPS.

Fallout 3 is an RPG in the first person perspective. A big difference.
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#10 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="HummaKavula"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I know nothing about Fallout. What type of game is it? FPS, Action, RPG?heretrix

Fallout 1 and 2 are RPG's, Fallout 3 is a FPS.

Fallout 3 is an RPG in the first person perspective. A big difference.

Trust me, there are certain people on this board that need only that to label it as much of an FPS as Call of Duty.

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Looks pretty good. Seems to have that amazing atmosphere that the prior Fallouts had.Verge_6

Goddamit Verge, you are supposed to hate it.

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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="HummaKavula"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I know nothing about Fallout. What type of game is it? FPS, Action, RPG?Verge_6

Fallout 1 and 2 are RPG's, Fallout 3 is a FPS.

Fallout 3 is an RPG in the first person perspective. A big difference.

Trust me, there are certain people on this board that need only that to label it as much of an FPS as Call of Duty.

:( I know.
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Looks pretty good. Seems to have that amazing atmosphere that the prior Fallouts had.heretrix

Goddamit Verge, you are supposed to hate it.

Why? :cry:

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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Looks pretty good. Seems to have that amazing atmosphere that the prior Fallouts had.Verge_6

Goddamit Verge, you are supposed to hate it.

Why? :cry:

Because all of the hermits think it's going to suck.
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Looks pretty good. Seems to have that amazing atmosphere that the prior Fallouts had.heretrix

Goddamit Verge, you are supposed to hate it.

Why? :cry:

Because all of the hermits think it's going to suck.

I think they wanted it to suck the instant they heard Bethesda was making it. Granted, there are a few who can provide good reasons for their worry, but for the most part all I've seen is elitist bull****.

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#16 Tony-Harrison
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Looks pretty good. Seems to have that amazing atmosphere that the prior Fallouts had.heretrix

Goddamit Verge, you are supposed to hate it.

Why? :cry:

Because all of the hermits think it's going to suck.

That's because Oblivion on the PC was a port of the 360 version. I have both copies and the 360 version is more tailored to the controller. The PC version is awkward.

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is it true this game has turnbased fights in it?Miss_Wacy
No.
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#18 Miss_Wacy
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[QUOTE="Miss_Wacy"]is it true this game has turnbased fights in it?RobbieH1234
No.

thank god, i read on here that it had turn based fights :S mabey they got it wrong

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#19 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Looks pretty good. Seems to have that amazing atmosphere that the prior Fallouts had.Verge_6

Goddamit Verge, you are supposed to hate it.

Why? :cry:

Because all of the hermits think it's going to suck.

I think they wanted it to suck the instant they heard Bethesda was making it. Granted, there are a few who can provide good reasons for their worry, but for the most part all I've seen is elitist bull****.

Yeah. I'm a big fan of the first 2 Fallouts and I had to sit and listen to people telling me I wasn't a real fan because I think Bethesda should be given the benefit of the doubt. I'd rather have this game than just having the series fade away.
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I think this game will do pretty good as a shooter... sadly thought it won't be "Fallout."
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#21 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Looks pretty good. Seems to have that amazing atmosphere that the prior Fallouts had.Tony-Harrison

Goddamit Verge, you are supposed to hate it.

Why? :cry:

Because all of the hermits think it's going to suck.

That's because Oblivion on the PC was a port of the 360 version. I have both copies and the 360 version is more tailored to the controller. The PC version is awkward.

Why not use the 360 controller then? It works perfectly fine in Windows.
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I reckon it will score AAAA almost universally. A week or two later Yahtzee will blast the game for being an RPG without the role playing (he will make an amusing remark about it not actually being a game, but more of a "winning simulator"), at which point the gaming media will slowly pull a 180 and start subtley bashing Fallout 3 much like they did with Oblivion -- but only in podcasts.
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I reckon it will score AAAA almost universally. A week or two later Yahtzee will blast the game for being an RPG without the role playing (he will make an amusing remark about it not actually being a game, but more of a "winning simulator"), at which point the gaming media will slowly pull a 180 and start subtley bashing Fallout 3 much like they did with Oblivion -- but only in podcasts. PBSnipes

Isn't that what happens with all games associated with the mainstream media these days?
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]I reckon it will score AAAA almost universally. A week or two later Yahtzee will blast the game for being an RPG without the role playing (he will make an amusing remark about it not actually being a game, but more of a "winning simulator"), at which point the gaming media will slowly pull a 180 and start subtley bashing Fallout 3 much like they did with Oblivion -- but only in podcasts. foxhound_fox

Isn't that what happens with all games associated with the mainstream media these days?

Pretty much. But I figured if I posted it I would look smarter than I really am. I'm like the Miss Cleo of SW. :lol:
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]I reckon it will score AAAA almost universally. A week or two later Yahtzee will blast the game for being an RPG without the role playing (he will make an amusing remark about it not actually being a game, but more of a "winning simulator"), at which point the gaming media will slowly pull a 180 and start subtley bashing Fallout 3 much like they did with Oblivion -- but only in podcasts. foxhound_fox

Isn't that what happens with all games associated with the mainstream media these days?

Yerp.

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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Looks pretty good. Seems to have that amazing atmosphere that the prior Fallouts had.heretrix

Goddamit Verge, you are supposed to hate it.

Why? :cry:

Because all of the hermits think it's going to suck.

I think they wanted it to suck the instant they heard Bethesda was making it. Granted, there are a few who can provide good reasons for their worry, but for the most part all I've seen is elitist bull****.

Yeah. I'm a big fan of the first 2 Fallouts and I had to sit and listen to people telling me I wasn't a real fan because I think Bethesda should be given the benefit of the doubt. I'd rather have this game than just having the series fade away.

Whenever someone says this, I just have to speak up, because I start to wonder: Do you care more about Fallout's gameplay, or Fallout's brandname?

Would you want to have Godfather 4 made rather than let the series fade?

There's nothing wrong with letting a good series end, as long as it ends on a good note, and the Fallout series (console spinoffs nonwithstanding) ending on a great note.

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#27 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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i never played the old fallout but now i want to

this game looks amazing

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Whenever someone says this, I just have to speak up, because I start to wonder: Do you care more about Fallout's gameplay, or Fallout's brandname?

Would you want to have Godfather 4 made rather than let the series fade?

There's nothing wrong with letting a good series end, as long as it ends on a good note, and the Fallout series (console spinoffs nonwithstanding) ending on a great note.

mjarantilla
I care about both. But I haven't played Fallout 3 yet, so how do I know if it's good or bad? All I know is that it's different. To me that isn't a problem.
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Whenever someone says this, I just have to speak up, because I start to wonder: Do you care more about Fallout's gameplay, or Fallout's brandname?

Would you want to have Godfather 4 made rather than let the series fade?

There's nothing wrong with letting a good series end, as long as it ends on a good note, and the Fallout series (console spinoffs nonwithstanding) ending on a great note.

heretrix

I care about both. But I haven't played Fallout 3 yet, so how do I know if it's good or bad? All I know is that it's different. To me that isn't a problem.

If it's different, then it shouldn't be a Fallout game. You can't toss everything that made the series what it was out and keep only the name.

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If the game is going to play like oblivion , then how can any fallout fans be hyped for this?

it just completely destroys what the game is about

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This will only make sense to Fallout fans, but Fallout 3 has: a toaster-like object that fires objects at enemies, a vacuum-like object that sucks in items and fires them at enemies, a flaming sword, a phonebooth-like object that protects you from nuclear explosions, a freezing gun, a mesmerising gun and it takes 5 nukes to kill a behemoth.
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#32 PBSnipes
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The problem with Fallout 3 is the "3" in the title. If Bethesda simply changed the name to Fallout: *insert subtitle here* I (and I assume many of the other "haters") would be fine with the changes. But they decided to call it Fallout 3, insinuating that the game has something to do with the prior Fallout titles, and then they preach about how they have "improved" the game. Obviously I haven't played Fallout 3, but as I said in my previous post the game seems to be more of a "winning simulator" in the same vein as Oblivion than an actual RPG, which is the exact opposite of what made Fallout 1 and 2 great.

I'm sure Fallout 3 will be an enjoyable game, all I ask from Bethesda is they don't **** in my toaster and call it a pop-tart.

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[QUOTE="HummaKavula"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I know nothing about Fallout. What type of game is it? FPS, Action, RPG?heretrix

Fallout 1 and 2 are RPG's, Fallout 3 is a FPS.

Fallout 3 is an RPG in the first person perspective. A big difference.



Don't even bother. The foaming at the mouth old-Fallout fanboys made up their mind months ago - nothing will change it at this point.
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Whenever someone says this, I just have to speak up, because I start to wonder: Do you care more about Fallout's gameplay, or Fallout's brandname?

Would you want to have Godfather 4 made rather than let the series fade?

There's nothing wrong with letting a good series end, as long as it ends on a good note, and the Fallout series (console spinoffs nonwithstanding) ending on a great note.

heretrix

I care about both. But I haven't played Fallout 3 yet, so how do I know if it's good or bad? All I know is that it's different. To me that isn't a problem.

As some dude said here:

Prior to Fallout the world went to war over the diminishing resources, petrol and uranium, "hell bent on controlling the last remaining resources on Earth". That war reduced most of the planet to rubble, as seen in Fallout and Fallout 2. The government went out of their way, spending billions to built vaults under the Earth in order to protect the people from the nuclear war. They also built Power Armor in order to enchance combat ability. Radiation is still heavily felt in both games (i.e. The Glow). Ghouls are humans who have been severely disfigured due to radiaton. Not all super mutants were simpletons. So why is it that in Fallout 3 we have:

* A town built in the crater of an unexploded nuke? A) How could an unexploded nuke have a crater? B) The population fears nuclear weapons, so why build a town around it?
* Exploding nuclear cars. A) If the world went to war over sources of nuclear power, why are nuclear cars in such plentiful supply? B) Why hasn't anyone in the entire wasteland used this system as a means to develop? C) Why do they generate a mushroom cloud? D) Why doesn't the explosion destroy the car? E) Why does the radiation disappear almost immediately? F) The cars weren't even ****ing nuclear in the originals. They were all destroyed beyond comprehension.
* A ****ing phone booth that protects from a nuclear explosion. What. The. ****. If they could build such a thing, what was the purpose of the vaults?!
* It takes 5 NUKES (!) to kill a Behemoth. So why does it use a car door as a shield?
* Why can ghouls leap at tremendous speed when they were falling apart in the originals? How can they heal eachother with radiation? How can they zap the player with radiation attacks?
* Why doesn't intelligence alter my dialogue choices?
* Again, nuclear power was a thing to be feared in the originals. So what purpose does the Fatman serve?
* Power Armor negatively impacts the player's abilities.
* The range of the radar depends on the player's perception.
* In the original Fallout water was damn hard to come by. In Fallout 3 there's plenty of water to be had i.e. drinking it out of toilets.
* Even the best armor and weapons can be found early in the game, although they'll have disadvantages.
* Certain enemies will be level scaled.
* Some of the weapons just don't fit; flaming sword, suck-o-tron and the mesmetron.
* Towns have a level cap, so you can theoretically explore at the lowest level and have them scaled down and locked.
* You will not get XP by sneaking past supermutants, you have to kill them.
* You are forced into combat, so it discourages any other character build.

This is not my list, another user made it by quoting previews and interviews and I saved it for further ownage.

So after reading this, doesn't it seem like Fallout 3's going to suck? Hmmmmmmm?

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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Whenever someone says this, I just have to speak up, because I start to wonder: Do you care more about Fallout's gameplay, or Fallout's brandname?

Would you want to have Godfather 4 made rather than let the series fade?

There's nothing wrong with letting a good series end, as long as it ends on a good note, and the Fallout series (console spinoffs nonwithstanding) ending on a great note.

mjarantilla

I care about both. But I haven't played Fallout 3 yet, so how do I know if it's good or bad? All I know is that it's different. To me that isn't a problem.

If it's different, then it shouldn't be a Fallout game. You can't toss everything that made the series what it was out and keep only the name.

Here's the thing. What really made the Fallout series what it was varies from person to person. For me, the Fallout series was a gory, incredibly atmospheric game that depicted survival in the post-apocalyptic wasteland that was once America. For others, it was how the game was played.

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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Whenever someone says this, I just have to speak up, because I start to wonder: Do you care more about Fallout's gameplay, or Fallout's brandname?

Would you want to have Godfather 4 made rather than let the series fade?

There's nothing wrong with letting a good series end, as long as it ends on a good note, and the Fallout series (console spinoffs nonwithstanding) ending on a great note.

Baranga

I care about both. But I haven't played Fallout 3 yet, so how do I know if it's good or bad? All I know is that it's different. To me that isn't a problem.

As some dude said here:

Prior to Fallout the world went to war over the diminishing resources, petrol and uranium, "hell bent on controlling the last remaining resources on Earth". That war reduced most of the planet to rubble, as seen in Fallout and Fallout 2. The government went out of their way, spending billions to built vaults under the Earth in order to protect the people from the nuclear war. They also built Power Armor in order to enchance combat ability. Radiation is still heavily felt in both games (i.e. The Glow). Ghouls are humans who have been severely disfigured due to radiaton. Not all super mutants were simpletons. So why is it that in Fallout 3 we have:

* A town built in the crater of an unexploded nuke? A) How could an unexploded nuke have a crater? B) The population fears nuclear weapons, so why build a town around it?
* Exploding nuclear cars. A) If the world went to war over sources of nuclear power, why are nuclear cars in such plentiful supply? B) Why hasn't anyone in the entire wasteland used this system as a means to develop? C) Why do they generate a mushroom cloud? D) Why doesn't the explosion destroy the car? E) Why does the radiation disappear almost immediately? F) The cars weren't even ****ing nuclear in the originals. They were all destroyed beyond comprehension.
* A ****ing phone booth that protects from a nuclear explosion. What. The. ****. If they could build such a thing, what was the purpose of the vaults?!
* It takes 5 NUKES (!) to kill a Behemoth. So why does it use a car door as a shield?
* Why can ghouls leap at tremendous speed when they were falling apart in the originals? How can they heal eachother with radiation? How can they zap the player with radiation attacks?
* Why doesn't intelligence alter my dialogue choices?
* Again, nuclear power was a thing to be feared in the originals. So what purpose does the Fatman serve?
* Power Armor negatively impacts the player's abilities.
* The range of the radar depends on the player's perception.
* In the original Fallout water was damn hard to come by. In Fallout 3 there's plenty of water to be had i.e. drinking it out of toilets.
* Even the best armor and weapons can be found early in the game, although they'll have disadvantages.
* Certain enemies will be level scaled.
* Some of the weapons just don't fit; flaming sword, suck-o-tron and the mesmetron.
* Towns have a level cap, so you can theoretically explore at the lowest level and have them scaled down and locked.
* You will not get XP by sneaking past supermutants, you have to kill them.
* You are forced into combat, so it discourages any other character build.

This is not my list, another user made it by quoting previews and interviews and I saved it for further ownage.

So after reading this, doesn't it seem like Fallout 3's going to suck? Hmmmmmmm?

That was me. :oops: I'm writing a proper article at the moment because the above was a bit rushed.
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#37 Redgarl
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[QUOTE="HummaKavula"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I know nothing about Fallout. What type of game is it? FPS, Action, RPG?heretrix

Fallout 1 and 2 are RPG's, Fallout 3 is a FPS.

Fallout 3 is an RPG in the first person perspective. A big difference.

STALKER was more an RPG than Oblivion... and it was still a FPS...

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#38 Redgarl
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="HummaKavula"]

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I know nothing about Fallout. What type of game is it? FPS, Action, RPG?Shafftehr

Fallout 1 and 2 are RPG's, Fallout 3 is a FPS.

Fallout 3 is an RPG in the first person perspective. A big difference.



Don't even bother. The foaming at the mouth old-Fallout fanboys made up their mind months ago - nothing will change it at this point.

Fallout was a turn based RPG with a great interface... that's why it was so cool. All this is scrapped... and it's been done by a bunch of lunatics making boring games.

Fallout is dead until I see the fallout MMO from Interplay... if it ever come out...

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#39 Philmon
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As someone who loved Fallout 1 & 2 I was very excited when Fallout 3 was announced. Hell at the time I did not care that Bethesda was making it, even though I did not like Oblivion. However as time has gone by and information about the game has slowly been released, I have slowly started to get more and more disappointed about this game.

What really annoys me is why buy a licence to a franchise if you are not going to stay true to it. I mean it is not as if you need the Fallout name to make a post-nuclear RPG. I don't know if the people at Bethesda are real fallout fans and they truly wanted to make a Fallout game and are missing the mark, or if they just bought the Fallout name so that they can get some kind of credibility/recognition for their new game based on the achievements of the old games.

At this point I am just keeping a peripheral eye on the game to see how it turns out but I have very low expectations for the game as a Fallout title. I wish they had saved the money they spent on the licence and made their own post-nuclear RPG title that would not be restricted by the Fallout story/setting.

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#40 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Whenever someone says this, I just have to speak up, because I start to wonder: Do you care more about Fallout's gameplay, or Fallout's brandname?

Would you want to have Godfather 4 made rather than let the series fade?

There's nothing wrong with letting a good series end, as long as it ends on a good note, and the Fallout series (console spinoffs nonwithstanding) ending on a great note.

Verge_6

I care about both. But I haven't played Fallout 3 yet, so how do I know if it's good or bad? All I know is that it's different. To me that isn't a problem.

If it's different, then it shouldn't be a Fallout game. You can't toss everything that made the series what it was out and keep only the name.

Here's the thing. What really made the Fallout series what it was varies from person to person. For me, the Fallout series was a gory, incredibly atmospheric game that depicted survival in the post-apocalyptic wasteland that was once America. For others, it was how the game was played.

Then what distinguished Fallout from other post-apocalyptic wasteland games like, for example, STALKER?

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#41 Verge_6
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Then what distinguished Fallout from other post-apocalyptic wasteland games like, for example, STALKER?

mjarantilla

The fact STALKER was set in the Ukraine, centered around getting into the Cherbobyl NPD, had a totally different theme and tone, etc.? :?

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#42 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Then what distinguished Fallout from other post-apocalyptic wasteland games like, for example, STALKER?

Verge_6

The fact STALKER was set in the Ukraine, centered around getting into the Cherbobyl NPD, had a totally different theme and tone, etc.? :?

Answer the big question, not the little one. What distinguished Fallout for you from other post-apocalyptic wasteland games?

EDIT: If you consider STALKER different from the original Fallout because of "totally different theme and tone," then why aren't you objecting to Fallout 3? Many of the objections being raised by Fallout fans ARE about theme and tone.

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#43 Redgarl
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Then what distinguished Fallout from other post-apocalyptic wasteland games like, for example, STALKER?

mjarantilla

The fact STALKER was set in the Ukraine and centered around getting into the Cherbobyl NPD. :?

Answer the big question, not the little one. What distinguished Fallout for you from other post-apocalyptic wasteland games?

Except for the location, absolutely nothing... still, I prefer the Chernobyl approach :P

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That was me. :oops: I'm writing a proper article at the moment because the above was a bit rushed.RobbieH1234


Did you seriously sit down and think about stuff that is unrealistic in F3? Are you so desperate to bash this game? If you hate it so much why don't you just stop caring about it?


You do know that every Fallout games is unrealistic.
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#45 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Then what distinguished Fallout from other post-apocalyptic wasteland games like, for example, STALKER?

mjarantilla

The fact STALKER was set in the Ukraine and centered around getting into the Cherbobyl NPD. :?

You know what I meant. Answer the big question, not the little one. What distinguished Fallout from other post-apocalyptic wasteland games?

Again, the gameplay is reall what seperated it from other games for YOU. I don't know why you people take this so personally. Yes, the gameplay was fun and you could clearly tell whether you were playing a Fallout game or another isometric post-apocalyptic game, but other people saw Fallout for its setting, tone, and theme. I'm sorry if that doesn't sit well with you.

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#46 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Then what distinguished Fallout from other post-apocalyptic wasteland games like, for example, STALKER?

Verge_6

The fact STALKER was set in the Ukraine and centered around getting into the Cherbobyl NPD. :?

You know what I meant. Answer the big question, not the little one. What distinguished Fallout from other post-apocalyptic wasteland games?

Again, the gameplay is reall what seperated it from other games for YOU. I don't know why you people take this so personally. Yes, the gameplay was fun and you could clearly tell whether you were playing a Fallout game or another isometric post-apocalyptic game, but other people saw Fallout for its setting, tone, and theme. I'm sorry if that doesn't sit well with you.

I didn't say anything about the gameplay. I'm asking YOU what YOU thought distinguished Fallout from other games in the post-apocalyptic scifi genre.

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#47 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Then what distinguished Fallout from other post-apocalyptic wasteland games like, for example, STALKER?

mjarantilla

The fact STALKER was set in the Ukraine and centered around getting into the Cherbobyl NPD. :?

You know what I meant. Answer the big question, not the little one. What distinguished Fallout from other post-apocalyptic wasteland games?

Again, the gameplay is reall what seperated it from other games for YOU. I don't know why you people take this so personally. Yes, the gameplay was fun and you could clearly tell whether you were playing a Fallout game or another isometric post-apocalyptic game, but other people saw Fallout for its setting, tone, and theme. I'm sorry if that doesn't sit well with you.

I didn't say anything about the gameplay. I'm asking YOU what YOU thought distinguished Fallout from other games in the post-apocalyptic scifi genre.

I already did. :?

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[QUOTE="RobbieH1234"]That was me. :oops: I'm writing a proper article at the moment because the above was a bit rushed.JLF1


Did you seriously sit down and think about stuff that is unrealistic in F3? Are you so desperate to bash this game? If you hate it so much why don't you just stop caring about it?


You do know that every Fallout games is unrealistic.

Not unrealistic in the traditional sense, but stuff that has no place within the Fallout universe. And I didn't have to think about it, the stuff is pants-on-head retarded; it speaks for itself really.
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#49 mjarantilla
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[QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"][QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="mjarantilla"]

Then what distinguished Fallout from other post-apocalyptic wasteland games like, for example, STALKER?

Verge_6

The fact STALKER was set in the Ukraine and centered around getting into the Cherbobyl NPD. :?

You know what I meant. Answer the big question, not the little one. What distinguished Fallout from other post-apocalyptic wasteland games?

Again, the gameplay is reall what seperated it from other games for YOU. I don't know why you people take this so personally. Yes, the gameplay was fun and you could clearly tell whether you were playing a Fallout game or another isometric post-apocalyptic game, but other people saw Fallout for its setting, tone, and theme. I'm sorry if that doesn't sit well with you.

I didn't say anything about the gameplay. I'm asking YOU what YOU thought distinguished Fallout from other games in the post-apocalyptic scifi genre.

I already did. :?

Yes, and since Fallout 3 is changing the basic rules of the setting (and thus changing the setting), and changing the tone and theme of the series to balls-to-the-wall action, I'm asking why are you supporting Fallout 3?

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#50 Verge_6
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Yes, and since Fallout 3 is changing the basic rules of the setting (and thus changing the setting), and changing the tone and theme of the series to balls-to-the-wall action, I'm asking why are you supporting Fallout 3?

mjarantilla

*sigh* The setting is still post-apocalyptic America, the tone with its dark-humor seems to be intact, and the theme of doing what you can to survive is as well. Again, why are you people so agaisnt other people wanting to like this?