I'm sure MS threw an enormous amount of money at them considering its Bethesda's first since Skyrim which was a huge hit"I believe it's smart to limit our potential market by 2/3rds" - no company ever.
Wasdie
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Will it be exclusive like Mass Effect and Bioshock? Big 3rd party exclusives are a thing of the past, money will only be timed exclusives and DLC.
[QUOTE="Wasdie"]I'm sure MS threw an enormous amount of money at them considering its Bethesda's first since Skyrim which was a huge hit Exactly how much money would Microsoft have to pay them to make up for the amount of money lost by not releasing on PC, where the most dedicated community is?"I believe it's smart to limit our potential market by 2/3rds" - no company ever.
BPoole96
The thing is though, the 15 exclusives they're showing at E3 are all said to be first party games. ShoulderOfOrionI didn't realize 4 studios could make 15 games for the first year.
I didn't like FO NV and could finish FO3, so I dont care. Wouldn't get it on any platform. Give me more elder scrolls please and thank you. Heil68I'm the opposite, Skyrim was boring to me and I never finished it. I love the Fallout games.
[QUOTE="BPoole96"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]I'm sure MS threw an enormous amount of money at them considering its Bethesda's first since Skyrim which was a huge hit Exactly how much money would Microsoft have to pay them to make up for the amount of money lost by not releasing on PC, where the most dedicated community is?i dunno?"I believe it's smart to limit our potential market by 2/3rds" - no company ever.
PannicAtack
10 bucks?
$20???
maybe buy them a pizza with all the toppings?
"but normally on PC it's only about five to seven per cent who pay anyway, the rest is pirated. It's around a 93-95 per cent piracy rate,"
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/22/ubisoft-pc-has-piracy-rate-of-93-95-f2p-the-future
[QUOTE="Heil68"]I didn't like FO NV and could finish FO3, so I dont care. Wouldn't get it on any platform. Give me more elder scrolls please and thank you. Karnage108I'm the opposite, Skyrim was boring to me and I never finished it. I love the Fallout games. FO NV was especially annoying when traveling and having to deal with those wasp things. I quit shortly after getting to the trex. Skyrim I beat on both Pc and 360 and have close to 200 hours total in both versions.
[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"]The thing is though, the 15 exclusives they're showing at E3 are all said to be first party games. darkspineslayerI didn't realize 4 studios could make 15 games for the first year. They can when the only thing being pumped out the past two or three years are Kinect titles.
MS doesn't have the money to lock up third party exclusives. Too much money to be made with multi plats.Now MS needs to go after Bioware. Kotor 3. Its time for you to come home.:)
jimmypsn
Exactly how much money would Microsoft have to pay them to make up for the amount of money lost by not releasing on PC, where the most dedicated community is?i dunno?[QUOTE="PannicAtack"][QUOTE="BPoole96"] I'm sure MS threw an enormous amount of money at them considering its Bethesda's first since Skyrim which was a huge hitRiverwolf007
10 bucks?
$20???
maybe buy them a pizza with all the toppings?
"but normally on PC it's only about five to seven per cent who pay anyway, the rest is pirated. It's around a 93-95 per cent piracy rate,"
http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/22/ubisoft-pc-has-piracy-rate-of-93-95-f2p-the-future
So how many of the copies registered on Steam are piratejobs?[QUOTE="jimmypsn"]MS doesn't have the money to lock up third party exclusives. Too much money to be made with multi plats.Now MS needs to go after Bioware. Kotor 3. Its time for you to come home.:)
LJS9502_basic
Not when it's early in the generation and all systems don't have huge install bases, if they plan on getting 3rd party exclusives it's the perfect time.
oh noes! some dude who hates them with a passion may now end up hating them![QUOTE="BPoole96"]If that's true then MS can go fvck themselves. They don't have any talented devs of their own so they have to go and throw outrageous sums of money at other devs to get games on their system. As a huge fallout fan this does not make me want to get an Xbox, it just makes me hate MSRiverwolf007
i mean really dude, lol.
what are you going to do?
hate them 50% more than you already do?
talk bad about them on the internet?
Yeah, what else can I do? Egg Steve Ballmer's house? Key Don Mattrick's car? They keep up their bullshit and I can guarantee I will never buy one of their products. As a consumer, that's all I can do.[QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]Fallout New Vegas is the best WRPG this gen lolProbably just a timed exclusive. Either way, I don't care that much. I always thought Fallout sucked anyway.
ShoulderOfOrion
It certainly is. Â I'm on my 3rd playthrough right now. Â
I hope it's only a timed exclusive.
You'll doubtlessly assume this is massive butthurt on my end, but all signs with Fallout 4 pointed to absolute shit gameplay with jaw dropping next gen graphics. Â It was maybe going to be the final nail in the coffin for one of my most beloved franchises that I've been playing since FO1.
Bethesda would doubtlessly follow the trends of the craptaculary shitty FO3 and Skyrim. Â It's already been strongly hinted by Bethesda that skill points are out and is instead going to Skyrims lame system. Â Casuals like their games linear, their choices consequence free, everything to be doable in one playthrough, and easy as hell.
Sadly casuals have been Bethesda's target audience for years. Â I want to believe FO4 won't suck, but I know it won't happen.
Fallout New Vegas is the best WRPG this gen lol[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="Demonjoe93"]
Probably just a timed exclusive. Either way, I don't care that much. I always thought Fallout sucked anyway.
Boddicker
It certainly is. Â I'm on my 3rd playthrough right now. Â
I hope it's only a timed exclusive.
You'll doubtlessly assume this is massive butthurt on my end, but all signs with Fallout 4 pointed to absolute shit gameplay with jaw dropping next gen graphics. Â It was maybe going to be the final nail in the coffin for one of my most beloved franchises that I've been playing since FO1.
Bethesda would doubtlessly follow the trends of the craptaculary shitty FO3 and Skyrim. Â It's already been strongly hinted by Bethesda that skill points are out and is instead going to Skyrims lame system. Â Casuals like their games linear, their choices consequence free, everything to be doable in one playthrough, and easy as hell.
Sadly casuals have been Bethesda's target audience for years. Â I want to believe FO4 won't suck, but I know it won't happen.
Nah man I get what you're saying. I'll still play it day one, but Bethesda can't hold a candle to what Obsidian can do.Lems are delusional if they believe this. They will get DLC a few weeks early at most.
NathanDrakeSwag
Along with an ugly version of the game that runs at 30FPS at best.
MS doesn't have the money to lock up third party exclusives. Too much money to be made with multi plats.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jimmypsn"]
Now MS needs to go after Bioware. Kotor 3. Its time for you to come home.:)
deangallop
Not when it's early in the generation and all systems don't have huge install bases, if they plan on getting 3rd party exclusives it's the perfect time.
How stupid do you think third party devs are?You make a bunch of stupid comments, and this is one of them. Casual gamer confirmed.[QUOTE="Miketheman83"]If this is true I cant see how any hardcore gamer could choose a PS4.Bigboi500
Yeah, I'm calling bullshit.
Bethesda knows, even though they screwed over PS3 owners with Skyrim: The Unfinished Edition, they'll still purchase Fallout 4 on PS4. Bethesda isn't stupid enough to make it exclusive (even if timed). They'd lose a crap-ton of money.
That's why Call of Duty: Ghosts isn't a timed exclusive either. Again, they'll lose more money than Microsoft could probably offer.
If this is true I cant see how any hardcore gamer could choose a PS4.Miketheman83
If anything this will make people hate M$ more if true. They have such a shitty first party that all they can do is pay 3rd parties for exclusives.
Bethesda might be a terrible company but I don't think they would be that stupid and even if it was console exclusive it would likely still be on the PC, which is the only place you should buy Bethesda games due to the modding community.
If this is true I cant see how any hardcore gamer could choose a PS4.
Most hardcore gamers would probably want to play it on the PC and the oldschool hardcore gamers probably don't care about Bethesda at all.
I agree with this. It is probably not an exclusive game to xbox one.. And to not release it on PC is suicide...It's a beloved PC franchise. PC gamers would literally burn down Bethesda.Â
It might be a "console" Xbone exclusive, as in nbo PS4 version, but a PC/Xbone release. Most likely though it'll just be like CoD. It'll be out on all platforms but the Xbone idiots will get timed DLC.
It just makes no sense. The money they would throw away from not having a PC and PS4 version, hundreds of millions of dollars, it's just not something Microsft would pay.
Kinthalis
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