Fanboism aside, should nintendo be seriously WORRIED about Sony's Motion tech?

Link

I am a Wii only owner, but when i saw this i was stunned at the precision of Sony's motion controller.

Should nintendo be truly worried.

It's very cool, I fully admit that, and I'm a wii only owner.

But, there's one area that the wii is fully ahead of sony's motion controller...the wiimote plays games...like real games you can buy at the store.

i think they should be more worried about NATAL. imagine

Advert 1. Guy plays bowling with a foot long white peice of plastic wrapped in a condom and tethered to his arm.

Advert 2. Guy plays bowling with nothing in his hand.

suddenly the wii looks dated

No.... Sony's Motion Sensing from what I can tell is just a rip off of Nintendo's..... but that doesn't really matter when it comes to the question of it being successful to the point that Nintendo need worry.

Sony is coming too late to the game, to try and give gamers what they already have "currently" with another system. It would be like MS announcing a Blu-Ray add-on now and thinking it was somehow gonna make PS3 owners abandon their PS3 because now you can watch Blu-Ray on XBOX.... stupid right?

Sony is at best 1.5 years away from even launching their Ball on a Stick.... Nintendo will be too far away to catch by then..... pfff.... they are too far away to catch now.

Now at least MS's motion tech works in a different way.... so people can have a different experience with it.... but it's still a ways off from release... but when it does release, it'll be something different from Nintendo at least.

If they're worried about Sony showing them up on the progress of motion technology, yes nintendo should be worried.

If they're worried about Sony taking a chunk out of their casual sales witht he motion technology, LOL.

It's unlikely that nintendo's worried about the former, and they don't need to worry about the latter.

It's very cool, I fully admit that, and I'm a wii only owner.

But, there's one area that the wii is fully ahead of sony's motion controller...the wiimote plays games...like real games you can buy at the store.

goblaa

Link

I am a Wii only owner, but when i saw this i was stunned at the precision of Sony's motion controller.

Should nintendo be truly worried.

rgame1

No need to worry for now... at least not until Sony actually release their motion controller and a few great games..

No.... Sony's Motion Sensing from what I can tell is just a rip off of Nintendo's..... but that doesn't really matter when it comes to the question of it being successful to the point that Nintendo need worry.

Sony is coming too late to the game, to try and give gamers what they already have "currently" with another system. It would be like MS announcing a Blu-Ray add-on now and thinking it was somehow gonna make PS3 owners abandon their PS3 because now you can watch Blu-Ray on XBOX.... stupid right?

Sony is at best 1.5 years away from even launching their Ball on a Stick.... Nintendo will be too far away to catch by then..... pfff.... they are too far away to catch now.

Now at least MS's motion tech works in a different way.... so people can have a different experience with it.... but it's still a ways off from release... but when it does release, it'll be something different from Nintendo at least.

whatisazerg

[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

No.... Sony's Motion Sensing from what I can tell is just a rip off of Nintendo's..... but that doesn't really matter when it comes to the question of it being successful to the point that Nintendo need worry.

Sony is coming too late to the game, to try and give gamers what they already have "currently" with another system. It would be like MS announcing a Blu-Ray add-on now and thinking it was somehow gonna make PS3 owners abandon their PS3 because now you can watch Blu-Ray on XBOX.... stupid right?

Sony is at best 1.5 years away from even launching their Ball on a Stick.... Nintendo will be too far away to catch by then..... pfff.... they are too far away to catch now.

Now at least MS's motion tech works in a different way.... so people can have a different experience with it.... but it's still a ways off from release... but when it does release, it'll be something different from Nintendo at least.

GodofBigMacs

I'll attempt to answer your question, when you ask it in english, k?

e They should be more worried about Microsofts Natal.

I probably think im the only one that thinks this but by the time sonys wand comes out, it will be 4-5 years after the Wii. Honestly, i was expecting a much bigger improvement considering the time gap.

considering the Ps3 is $400, the you have to buy the Ps eye, and the motion control stick, it gets a bit expensive to have a very simular experience to the wii, granted the Ps3 mps the floor whith the wii in terms of system power

Nintendo should be worried more about Natal, if it plays as promised it could really change the way we do alot of stuff, not just gaming

[QUOTE="goblaa"]

It's very cool, I fully admit that, and I'm a wii only owner.

But, there's one area that the wii is fully ahead of sony's motion controller...the wiimote plays games...like real games you can buy at the store.

GodofBigMacs

Well, the day a PS3 motion controled game comes out, is the day my statement is false....until then.

Sony's motion controlls look pretty solid. It will be interesting when this and Natal are both on the market.

[QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"][QUOTE="goblaa"]

It's very cool, I fully admit that, and I'm a wii only owner.

But, there's one area that the wii is fully ahead of sony's motion controller...the wiimote plays games...like real games you can buy at the store.

goblaa

Well, the day a PS3 motion controled game comes out, is the day my statement is false....until then.

Natal is the bigger threat if done correctly. Sony copied Nintendo 110%. The only difference is it's a lot more expensive. Microsoft evolved on the wii remote and created something that could potentially be better. It's already got superior tech. Add in the 360 is cheaper than a wii and you've got a potential winner.

Course i doubt either will overthrow the wii now, to little to late.

It's very cool, I fully admit that, and I'm a wii only owner.

But, there's one area that the wii is fully ahead of sony's motion controller...the wiimote plays games...like real games you can buy at the store.

goblaa

[QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"][QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

No.... Sony's Motion Sensing from what I can tell is just a rip off of Nintendo's..... but that doesn't really matter when it comes to the question of it being successful to the point that Nintendo need worry.

Sony is coming too late to the game, to try and give gamers what they already have "currently" with another system. It would be like MS announcing a Blu-Ray add-on now and thinking it was somehow gonna make PS3 owners abandon their PS3 because now you can watch Blu-Ray on XBOX.... stupid right?

Sony is at best 1.5 years away from even launching their Ball on a Stick.... Nintendo will be too far away to catch by then..... pfff.... they are too far away to catch now.

Now at least MS's motion tech works in a different way.... so people can have a different experience with it.... but it's still a ways off from release... but when it does release, it'll be something different from Nintendo at least.

whatisazerg

I'll attempt to answer your question, when you ask it in english, k?

If 1) Sony releases a $299 PS3 bundled with the new controllers next year, 2) third-parties start developing games for it (and Wii third party exclusives go multiplat or only to PS3), and 3) Sony advertises said games and technology extensively/gets a lot of good press on it... yes. If all those things do not happen, I can't see Sony capturing the casual market.

The problem is that Sony's peripheral has to be added into the price of what many consider an already overpriced piece of hardware. So people that want motion control type setup's either already have a Wii.

PS3 and 360 are two seperate beasts to Wii. Wii has already been way more succesful than it should have been, considering it's outdated hardware, and rarely used to good effect gimicky controller.

MS and Sony would have been better off spending this development money on inhouse GAME DEVELOPMENT of some incredible new IP's that utilize the power of each machine to maximum effect.

Nintendo were clever enough to release there machine with the motion technology at the forefront, and it's only selling point. MS and Sony built there machines with a different purpose, for a different demograph of gamer.

Sony tried in vein with sixaxis tacked on tech. but it was only utilized well in a minority of software. It would have been more worth them just using the development money from sixaxis to pay off Immersion (like MS did) and just launched the DS3 with vibration from start. Although I do like the implemetation of sixaxis in games when done right....it is not done right (or at all) very often, so it seems it was a losing bet in that gamble for Sony. Plus they had to pay Immersion 80mill anyway.

To me Sony's mistake with sixaxis should be a lesson to both companies..... Unless your machine is built around the tech, then don't bother as it will not work like it is supposed to.

Not really. Nintendo know what they are doing with their technology and its a proven deal, as opposed to Sony's. If they do pull it off, Nintendo still has the fanbase which I would accredit to cheaper prices.

i think they should be more worried about NATAL. imagine

Advert 1. Guy plays bowling with a foot long white peice of plastic wrapped in a condom and tethered to his arm.

Advert 2. Guy plays bowling with nothing in his hand.

suddenly the wii looks dated

If the controllers are cheap enough and come bundled with a decent Wiisports/fit ripoff it could do fairly we'll. Not a Wii killer but it looks like it could be more acurate which I would love since the wimote can sometimes get frustratingly inacurate. I'm just not into Natal anymore since I saw "Bam..there it is" and heard that Milo was a fruad. I mean if they get it to work well I'll buy it. If it stays gimped then F that.

Link

I am a Wii only owner, but when i saw this i was stunned at the precision of Sony's motion controller.

Should nintendo be truly worried.

rgame1

i think they should be more worried about NATAL. imagine

Advert 1. Guy plays bowling with a foot long white peice of plastic wrapped in a condom and tethered to his arm.

Advert 2. Guy plays bowling with nothing in his hand.

suddenly the wii looks dated

wayne_kar

Out of curiousity, and no I haven't seen it at work, how does it know when you've let go of the ball?

[QUOTE="wayne_kar"]

i think they should be more worried about NATAL. imagine

Advert 1. Guy plays bowling with a foot long white peice of plastic wrapped in a condom and tethered to his arm.

Advert 2. Guy plays bowling with nothing in his hand.

suddenly the wii looks dated

Nomad0404

Out of curiousity, and no I haven't seen it at work, how does it know when you've let go of the ball?

no.. its not a standard of the PS3.. and the Ps3 has like what..a 20 million userbase..?

Natal is basically Eyetoy 3.0, so Sony really has the most versatile motion controls. You can either use a Wiimote style controller with buttons and precision aiming, or control things directly using body gestures. Sure, Natal is way more accurate since it has 2 cameras, and thus can see in 3D, but there's no controller to use with it so it's limited in ways that the PSE and PMC combo isn't.

As for Wii, there's currently no camera peripheral at all, so the only option is to use the Wiimote for controls. I think that overall, Sony's motion control setup will give gamers and developers alike the most flexible set of options.

Why would Nintendo be worried?

They've sold 50 million consoles already and no amount of tech developments will allow PS3 or 360 to catch up to those numbers... at best, Sony and MS can hope to sell to a handful of those people who have a Wii only.

It will certainly make the next set of consoles interesting however..... Nintendo will have to pull something else different from their hat if they want to lead the next gen.

It's going to be a while before Sony's PS3 wand even becomes mainstream considering it comes out next yeae, while the Wii has been out for nearly 3 years and had motion sensor from the start.

Natal is basically Eyetoy 3.0, so Sony really has the most versatile motion controls. You can either use a Wiimote style controller with buttons and precision aiming, or control things directly using body gestures. Sure, Natal is way more accurate since it has 2 cameras, and thus can see in 3D, but there's no controller to use with it so it's limited in ways that the PSE and PMC combo isn't.

As for Wii, there's currently no camera peripheral at all, so the only option is to use the Wiimote for controls. I think that overall, Sony's motion control setup will give gamers and developers alike the most flexible set of options.

wasnt the wii suppose to be worried about six axsis? wasnt they suppose to be worried about metal gear 4? fanboys and there dedicated companies been throwing all kinds of ish at the wii to slow down its sales, but it havent worked yet. the appeal is still strong with the wii. Rahnyc4

looks great tbh

Why should Nintendo be worried? Sony's motion controls are a me too type of deal (even if they are more precise)on an all ready expensive console. All conventional wisdom says that it won't be successful enough to cause concern for Nintendo.

No real reason to worry. Sony is still in the prototype stages. Their lying when they say they have the P-mote in the developers hands already. If devs have it in their hands than they just got it June 2nd after Sony's press conference.

Sony can't even hope to catch up since their are about 50 million Wii owners who already have motion control, as opposed to only about 20 million PS3 owners. Wii owners can upgrade their motion control easily because the motion plus will come bundled with a couple of games such as Wii Sports Resort, Redsteel 2, and Tiger Woods Golf to name a few. The P-mote you'll have to go out and by it by itself, and pray by than it will come bundle the the PS Eye.

If half the Wii owners just buy a new game with this bundle you're looking at 25 millions people with Wii motion plus where as if half the PS3 owners go out and buy the new P-mote you're only looking at 10 million. From a game company's stand point that really isn't incentive enough to start making a bunch of games around that controller.

The P-mote is a blatant rip-off of the Wii-mote. It is to little and way to late. By time it gets released Natal would have already been out in the market for a while taking all the rest of the casual market. Only die-hard Sony fan boys would go out to buy the P-mote.

No, they appeal to different markets.

hell no. sony would need a huge marketing campaign to pull it off, and we all know how poorly they have marketed thier products lately.

I kinda feel sorry for cows on the controller front.

Imagine buying a PS3 at launch + 3 sixaxis controllers

- Dual shock 3 releases

x4 Dualshock 3

-PS Eye releases

One eye toy

- PS wand releases

x4 PS wand

Total

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A gazillion dollars

"bu bu bu... teh motion+ should have been there from the beginning!! no buy!!"

Link

I am a Wii only owner, but when i saw this i was stunned at the precision of Sony's motion controller.

Should nintendo be truly worried.

rgame1

i think they should be more worried about NATAL. imagine

Advert 1. Guy plays bowling with a foot long white peice of plastic wrapped in a condom and tethered to his arm.

Advert 2. Guy plays bowling with nothing in his hand.

suddenly the wii looks dated

wayne_kar