Farewell to the Wii, A Great Game Console

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

Words and a graph that I never denied trying desperately to explain the very, very obvious "why's" of console life cycle that some of us own. It really has nothing to do with my minor point of reflection.

It's a lot of work just to avoid my very frank and truthful observation as a long time Nintendo platform holder (Probably longer than most here in SW).

What does the Wii U's future hold? Maybe we can decide that over some graphs, PR, and justification.

I'm getting a Wii U, just like I got a Wii, just like I got all the other Nintendo Home consoles at launch (Wii in 2006, Gamecube 2001, N64 in 1996, '91 SNES, '85-86 NES, and I even have Nintendo Atari games). People get nutty in SW. :P

SuperFlakeman

You didn't deny what I said, because you didn't imply anything.You essentially stated that water is blue.

What I did is called covering all the bases, I rendered the observation useless. Whatever you may think the fact that it died first implies, is incorrect.

Incorrect. You didn't deny what I said, and you essentially stated the water is blue. I had no reason to deny what you said because it wasn't related to my point at all. What you did was explain "why" my correct observation occured, something I already knew a long time ago before you joined the SW forums under this account. Whatever you may think, the fact that the Wii died/dying first was a simple observation that seemed to get your jimmy's rustled.

As far as implication, you have no idea what my statement implies because you are way off base. The fact is, you didn't like the observation and it bothered you. You should ask yourself why it bothered you, not why this happened. It's apparent that I already know (super duper old SW news from last gen, lol you should have been there), and you seem to know...but that doesn't change the reality or my initiial statement in this thread at all.

Throwing out bait and strawman arguments aren't going to go far, with me at least.

Nothing has changed.

I've owned almost every console that has been released since the Atari 2600, and the wii is without a doubt the WORST console I ever purchased. So good freaking riddance.

Had the worst MarioStatusShuffle

No one's going to take your sh*t seriously

Wii is the worst console in sometime, not sure how anyone could call it great.

[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

[QUOTE="Desmonic"]

Nope. Doesn't work like that. The launch window for this gen (aka the period where all the major console companies released their new products) was effectively around 1 year (from late 2005 to late 2006). That is the launch window, in which there were 3 console launches/releases. So yeah, there were in fact 3 different launch times/period inside that global launch window,

Just because two of them released in the same month, it does not make them one product. They are in fact 2 products as we all are aware. Nor does releasing a whole year later than the Xbox 360 mean that it's not a part of the current gen consoles being released within that specific launch window. You would be(somewhat) right if the the Wii had released 2 or 3 years later, thus being a different gen from the previous consoles, thus it could possibly be considered the first of it's gen to be released.

However, since those two products, released later than the Xbox 360 and are part of the same gen, both of them can be referred as the last 2 consoles to be released for the current gen. I can say the PS3 was on the last consoles to be released, and it's true. I can say the Wii was one of the last consoles to be released, and it's true.

This is how it works, how it always worked, and how it'll always work. No amount of spinning can change it. Sorry bro.

Desmonic

yes there were 3 console launches but 2 of them were released in the same month..basically nullyfing the fact that there were 3 Different ones.... you need 3 distnict seperate launches... to make the claim that stupid fanboy coward hiding ps3 troll said.

i think you need some better thinking skills buddy...have you taken calculus or physiscs yet?

You are just trying to spin it all to justify yourself (and by doing so, not actually countering anything I said). Releasing in the same month does not nullify that there were 3 different launches. Aka, the PS3 released on 11th November and the Wii released on the 19th of the same month.

As you can see, different release dates, thus releasing in the same month is as relevant as the two of them releasing in the same year... which is to say, it's not relevant. At all.

Because, according to your logic the PS3 and Wii are one and the same product. According to you releasing a whole f*cking year after the Xbox 360 doesn't mean it was one of the last two consoles to release this gen. Your logic my friend, just isn't logical. The world doesn't work like that.

And I honestly don't get why all the butthurt over being one of the last to release. It's a fact. It didn't in any way stop the Wii from winning the gen and getting awesome games. So why make such a fuss over it? Why?

That user kimB is not a great user, and really either deliberately avoids facts, or believes the sad drivel she posts. I learned that years ago, as did most of us in SW.

So, while your effort is admirable, I wanted to give you a heads up because in the end KB just puts the fangirl earmuffs on and will post another day as if she wasn't completely pwned. Don't forget the poorly attempted ad hominems from a buthurt powersheep troll in denial, lol.

The butthurt comes from denial, my post found two users that couldn't shake that pain.

[QUOTE="Desmonic"]

You are just trying to spin it all to justify yourself (and by doing so, not actually countering anything I said). Releasing in the same month does not nullify that there were 3 different launches. Aka, the PS3 released on 11th November and the Wii released on the 19th of the same month.

As you can see, different release dates, thus releasing in the same month is as relevant as the two of them releasing in the same year... NO ITS NOT IN THE CONTEXT HE IS USING IT IN..

Actually, it exactly is the EXACT context, LOL. ;) I just don't bother trying to educate you anymore after finding out what a troll you are long ago. ;) Although, I did write clues in my post to help you a long, knowing you would probably miss them.

Because, according to your logic the PS3 and Wii are one and the same product. OK im DONE... YOU DONT GET it Actually, you don't get it, and you it occurs to me that you never will.

And I honestly don't get why all the butthurt over being one of the last to release. It's a fact. It didn't in any way stop the Wii from winning the gen and getting awesome games. So why make such a fuss over it? Why?

lol im not butthurt... just trying to school solidty but he just closed his ears and said nananana

You are very butthurt, super duper butthurt and you aren't the only one. You got schooled, not get on your shortbus and go home.

KBFloYd

lol

[QUOTE="PSP107"]SNES was a million miles better than n64. and a billion miles better than wii.

KBFloYd

see.. its opinion time...

sales are better evidence.

This argument fails big time.If anything the fact the Wii sold more than the SNES proves that sales don't matter.

Seriously, the SNES is one of the greatest systems of all time. The Wii? LOL.

[QUOTE="StatusShuffle"]Had the worst MarioShinobishyguy

No one's going to take your sh*t seriously

I've owned almost every console that has been released since the Atari 2600, and the wii is without a doubt the WORST console I ever purchased. So good freaking riddance.

OhSnapitz

It's a nice try, but there's a certain "I don't know what" that your posts lack to get the flames of uber drones.

I thought your post had the potential to spark a fanboy fury, but maybe I depleted their anger fuel. :P

[QUOTE="SolidTy"]

[QUOTE="Desmonic"]

You are just trying to spin it all to justify yourself (and by doing so, not actually countering anything I said). Releasing in the same month does not nullify that there were 3 different launches. Aka, the PS3 released on 11th November and the Wii released on the 19th of the same month.

As you can see, different release dates, thus releasing in the same month is as relevant as the two of them releasing in the same year... which is to say, it's not relevant. At all.

Because, according to your logic the PS3 and Wii are one and the same product. According to you releasing a whole f*cking year after the Xbox 360 doesn't mean it was one of the last two consoles to release this gen. Your logic my friend, just isn't logical. The world doesn't work like that.

And I honestly don't get why all the butthurt over being one of the last to release. It's a fact. It didn't in any way stop the Wii from winning the gen and getting awesome games. So why make such a fuss over it? Why?

Desmonic

That user kimB is not a great user, and really either deliberately avoids facts, or believes the sad drivel she posts. I learned that years ago, as did most of us in SW.

So, while your effort is admirable, I wanted to give you a heads up because in the end KB just puts the fangirl earmuffs on and will post another day as if she wasn't completely pwned. Don't forget the poorly attempted ad hominems from a buthurt powersheep troll in denial, lol.

The butthurt comes from denial, my post found two users that couldn't shake that pain.

:lol:

When I post reasonable explainations in SW, I've read "tl;dr" from illiterate fanboys so many times, that it's almost as if "lolz trollz" is all people want to read. :P

On the plus side, some of the bad trollkidz of yesteryear may be maturing as I only noticed two butts being hurt today.

[QUOTE="KBFloYd"]

[QUOTE="PSP107"]SNES was a million miles better than n64. and a billion miles better than wii.

2Chalupas

see.. its opinion time...

sales are better evidence.

This argument fails big time.If anything the fact the Wii sold more than the SNES proves that sales don't matter.

Seriously, the SNES is one of the greatest systems of all time. The Wii? LOL.

Hey fanboy? Pinned against a wall?

Protip : Revert back to sales arguments, avoiding topics on why horrible things like bad games sell well and why great things like great games don't sell well. In fact, don't bring up the starving artists that died destitute, only to be recognized as genius by modern society. No, salez R awesum!

It's a nasty cycle.:lol:

tl;dr version : sales =/= quality aka I agree. :P

it was the best dust collector that money could buy

Chris_Williams

True...lol

Had the worst Mario, Zelda, heck almost every nintendo franchise had its worst entries this gen. Metroid Prime 3 crapped compared to the last two, and while other M wasn't that bad, it didn't do enough to save Metroid this gen. lack of Starfox on the console. Both the Kirby games removed action for cutness, casual gimmicks making the game even more acessible, and removing things people wanted. All The Pokemon games was 400000 steps back from the 2 on the gamecube. The fans didn't even acknowledge their existance, and usually youtube would be crawling with them. One crappy Wario platformer that was just decent, worst in the series, and some more wario ware games, but with less challanging games and a lot of taking from other games. Lack of F-zero Lol DK Wii control Pikmin was worse than regular control Pikmin Xenoblade got a free pass for all the massive amount of fail Jrpgs on consoles giving it automatic high ratings, and same with TLS. Brawl got boring quickly, was a disaster competitively, was a trip to hell and fire from satan if you played ONLINE competitively, and it's SP was trash. TP wise: Conduit was hyped to death and got people to think it was actually good but it was trash. Conduit 2 was worse than one despite the higher ratings. No more Heroes 1 and 2 were ok at best. Sonic and Mario and the Olympic games was just crap logic. Especially screwing sonics speed and making it look like the game made sense with terrible controls. Sonic and the Secret rings was on rails. With limited interactivity, literally almost no content, and really nothing going on. Sonic and the Black Night was SatSR, but with input lag, bad sword detection, even LESS content, and even worse plot. and so much more. and more and more and more. Not one thing on the Wii will be remembered except it can run gamecube games better than the gamecube.StatusShuffle

What is wrong with you.The game actually challenged you to get better skills and to get better at controlling sonic.You know nothing about that game compared to me.I wouldn't be speedrunning that game if I didn't find that it was actually fun.

I've owned almost every console that has been released since the Atari 2600, and the wii is without a doubt the WORST console I ever purchased. So good freaking riddance.

[QUOTE="StatusShuffle"]Had the worst Mario, Zelda, heck almost every nintendo franchise had its worst entries this gen. Metroid Prime 3 crapped compared to the last two, and while other M wasn't that bad, it didn't do enough to save Metroid this gen. lack of Starfox on the console. Both the Kirby games removed action for cutness, casual gimmicks making the game even more acessible, and removing things people wanted. All The Pokemon games was 400000 steps back from the 2 on the gamecube. The fans didn't even acknowledge their existance, and usually youtube would be crawling with them. One crappy Wario platformer that was just decent, worst in the series, and some more wario ware games, but with less challanging games and a lot of taking from other games. Lack of F-zero Lol DK Wii control Pikmin was worse than regular control Pikmin Xenoblade got a free pass for all the massive amount of fail Jrpgs on consoles giving it automatic high ratings, and same with TLS. Brawl got boring quickly, was a disaster competitively, was a trip to hell and fire from satan if you played ONLINE competitively, and it's SP was trash. TP wise: Conduit was hyped to death and got people to think it was actually good but it was trash. Conduit 2 was worse than one despite the higher ratings. No more Heroes 1 and 2 were ok at best. Sonic and Mario and the Olympic games was just crap logic. Especially screwing sonics speed and making it look like the game made sense with terrible controls. Sonic and the Secret rings was on rails. With limited interactivity, literally almost no content, and really nothing going on. Sonic and the Black Night was SatSR, but with input lag, bad sword detection, even LESS content, and even worse plot. and so much more. and more and more and more. Not one thing on the Wii will be remembered except it can run gamecube games better than the gamecube.super600

What is wrong with you.The game actually challenged you to get better skills and to get better at controlling sonic.You know nothing about that game compared to me.I wouldn't be speedrunning that game if I didn't find that it was actually fun.

All I really wanted from the Wii from day one was a game where you slash stuff with a lightsaber or sword and shoot stuff, a full fledged baseball game where you swing the bat, and I wanted them to be good and fun.

Sure eventually maybe 1 or 2 games did this, but never to what I thought it was going to be and if it did, it took so long I stopped caring.

Why we never got some simple fun Wii mote games around 07/08.. Ill never know.

Slip softly into the night...

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="AtariKidX"] You mean last gen....like the PS2 and XBOX.....because the Wii is last gen console....no HD gen console like the PS3/XBOX360.And the PS2 have won the GC and Wii together in sales and games.....both last gen consoles.AtariKidX

PS2 154.4 million>>>>>>>>Wii 96.56 million and GC 21.74 million.PS2 have dominate Nintendo and last gen (PS2,XBOX,GC,Wii) in sales and games.Fact.

Better luck next gen Cheapnintendo.......i mean this gen....again.lol

[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="StatusShuffle"]Had the worst Mario, Zelda, heck almost every nintendo franchise had its worst entries this gen. Metroid Prime 3 crapped compared to the last two, and while other M wasn't that bad, it didn't do enough to save Metroid this gen. lack of Starfox on the console. Both the Kirby games removed action for cutness, casual gimmicks making the game even more acessible, and removing things people wanted. All The Pokemon games was 400000 steps back from the 2 on the gamecube. The fans didn't even acknowledge their existance, and usually youtube would be crawling with them. One crappy Wario platformer that was just decent, worst in the series, and some more wario ware games, but with less challanging games and a lot of taking from other games. Lack of F-zero Lol DK Wii control Pikmin was worse than regular control Pikmin Xenoblade got a free pass for all the massive amount of fail Jrpgs on consoles giving it automatic high ratings, and same with TLS. Brawl got boring quickly, was a disaster competitively, was a trip to hell and fire from satan if you played ONLINE competitively, and it's SP was trash. TP wise: Conduit was hyped to death and got people to think it was actually good but it was trash. Conduit 2 was worse than one despite the higher ratings. No more Heroes 1 and 2 were ok at best. Sonic and Mario and the Olympic games was just crap logic. Especially screwing sonics speed and making it look like the game made sense with terrible controls. Sonic and the Secret rings was on rails. With limited interactivity, literally almost no content, and really nothing going on. Sonic and the Black Night was SatSR, but with input lag, bad sword detection, even LESS content, and even worse plot. and so much more. and more and more and more. Not one thing on the Wii will be remembered except it can run gamecube games better than the gamecube.StatusShuffle

What is wrong with you.The game actually challenged you to get better skills and to get better at controlling sonic.You know nothing about that game compared to me.I wouldn't be speedrunning that game if I didn't find that it was actually fun.

You can literally get 40 hours of replay value by leveling up sonic and getting everything else in the game.The game doesn't become incredibly fun until you get the crest skills.

[QUOTE="StatusShuffle"][QUOTE="super600"]

What is wrong with you.The game actually challenged you to get better skills and to get better at controlling sonic.You know nothing about that game compared to me.I wouldn't be speedrunning that game if I didn't find that it was actually fun.

super600

You can literally get 40 hours of replay value by leveling up sonic and getting everything else in the game.The game doesn't become incredibly fun until you get the crest skills.

The Wii was a good system on the reason that it did not self destruct like the 2 other POS ones did during this generation.

Oh boy, System Wars is going to have a ball tearing this article apart. :roll:nintendoboy16

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Oh boy, System Wars is going to have a ball tearing this article apart. :roll:parkurtommo

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Oh boy, System Wars is going to have a ball tearing this article apart. :roll:locopatho

There's not really a point to discussing it anymore. Bring up valid statement, one of them baws over graphics, then in another thread a pc'er baws over graphics and they squeel that gameplay is more important all of a sudden :roll:

Highest rated exclusive library on consoles this gen, suck on it trolls.

[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"] Preemptive damage control. The wii sucked in 2008, so I sold it. Can't say that I regret it.WreckEm711

There's not really a point to discussing it anymore. Bring up valid statement, one of them baws over graphics, then in another thread a pc'er baws over graphics and they squeel that gameplay is more important all of a sudden :roll:

Highest rated exclusive library on consoles this gen, suck on it trolls.

I bought a Wii and felt I got ripped off. But that's because I had a Gamecube the gen before. Wii games looked like Gamecube games, played like Gamecube games- heck, half of Wii's AAA library were straight up gamecube ports. If anything the Gamecube was a better system than the Wii cuz it didn't use that gimped inacurate failed promise of a Wiimote.

For a lot of you little kids and strange manchildren who still wear their spiderman underwear I can understand why you loved the Wii. It's the console best suited to children and grown men who wish they could play with children.

ITT:

Sheep:

Everybody else:

[QUOTE="WreckEm711"]

[QUOTE="locopatho"] It's funny how at this point all Nintendo fans say in these threads is "SW hates Nintendo anyway" rather then actually discussing the thread :Plocopatho

There's not really a point to discussing it anymore. Bring up valid statement, one of them baws over graphics, then in another thread a pc'er baws over graphics and they squeal that gameplay is more important all of a sudden :roll:

Highest rated exclusive library on consoles this gen, suck on it trolls.

Haha well crap, guess I countered my own point of not making points :P

I bought a Wii and felt I got ripped off. But that's because I had a Gamecube the gen before. Wii games looked like Gamecube games, played like Gamecube games- heck, half of Wii's AAA library were straight up gamecube ports. If anything the Gamecube was a better system than the Wii cuz it didn't use that gimped inacurate failed promise of a Wiimote.

For a lot of you little kids and strange manchildren who still wear their spiderman underwear I can understand why you loved the Wii. It's the console best suited to children and grown men who wish they could play with children.

Pray_to_me

Get a life kid :lol:

Seems like I'm one of the few System Warriors to have actually used my Wii fully.

It didn't have the 3rd Party Support the other 2 consoles had, but to say it had Terrible 3rd Party is wrong too, (but it had the worst out of the 3).

There were a lot of great 3rd Party Games for the System, but there were also a lot of Miss Opportunities as well.

For Example, Resident Evil 4 was on the Wii and it had all of the Extras that the PS2 version had, Arguably it probably was the Best Version of the Game at the Time, and it sold really well too, So you would expect there would be another Resident Evil game to come out for the Wii just like this one. Well....not so much, There were 2 Re-Releases of Zero and REMake and they were probably hinting at more Republishings of the Gamecube ReReleases, but the Wii didn't get a NEW Resident Evil till Umbrella Chronicles came out.

Perfect! New Resident Evil....what happened though? It wasn't 3rd Person, nor did it play like RE4, It was ON RAILS. Immediate turn off for a lot of Gamers.

3rd Party Developers did the same to Dead Space. Resident Evil 4 sold so well on the Wii, but None of the Developers actually wanted to utilize that, They all wanted to make Light Gun Games, because they thought it was the best they could do for those games on the System. Could you imagine how much better Dead Space Extraction could have been had the Rails been taken off in that game? Think The New Goldeneye only in a Dead Space setting. That would have been something to see.

So yeah, the Wii had all of this Potential and NONE of it was fully Realized by 3rd Parties, instead 3rd Parties gimped a lot of experiences and gave them to the Wii.

That's not to say there were all terrible though, Capcom for awhile did take the Wii Seriously with Tatsunoko vs Capcom and Monster Hunter Tri, but Fanboys were too far up the HD console's rear to even bother with the Wii and waited for their version of Tatsunoko vs Capcom and Monster Hunter came up, some even going as far as to say there ISN'T a Console Monster Hunter this Gen! Can you believe that? and Sadly TvC only had ONE EVO appearance. ONE. That's Sad.

Also Nintendo isn't going to get a Freebie here either, They COULD have Updated the Online Interface for the System, They COULD have Released more Virtual Console games for the System, They COULD have up the Upload count for Developers so Games like Super Meat Boy, Braid, and Limbo could have been on the Wii....BUT THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING FOR THAT, the Wii could have probably been a lot better had the system even had an Online Interface like the Other Consoles.

The Wii was NEVER bad System, but it recieved probably recieved the poorest reaction to Developers and Gamers alike and for nearly no reason at all.

Gamers may have complained about the Waggle, but come on are you really Waggling your Arm all over the place when playing Metroid Prime 3 or Golden Eye or Zelda? Cause if you are then it's no wonder you hate the game, you can't play it right.

And Developers may have complained about The Wii not being HD, but that shouldn't have stopped them from making games like Devil May Cry or Final Fantasy on the Console, heck Call of Duty 4 eventually found its way to the Wii.

BUT it was never a Bad System and it had some pretty Great Games Despite it's lack of Power. If only Developers actually took the System a bit more Seriously.

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Man I had a lot to say.

TL;DR edition

Wii was Never a Bad System, May have been the worst this Generation, but was Never Truely Bad.

It had great Games 1st AND 3rd Party, Retail and Download.

I won't really miss it, since I'm still playing it and possibly will still play the Games when WiiU comes out, but It was a good system.

Even though the Wii was a bad console and probably Nintendos worst console that they built/released, I admit it had a few good games on it.

Motion controls was the thing that made me hate the Wii cause it just didn't fit right with a lot of game genres, then the whole motion control phase came in and made me hate it even more.

I loved the Wii. I actually played what it had to offewr and got the most out of it.

Good system, great games.

Was a great console indeed, it's fantastic library of exclusives made upfor the lack of multiplats.

I loved the Wii. I actually played what it had to offewr and got the most out of it.

Good system, great games.

Shirokishi_

^This. I made the most out of it with 28 games plus VC games. Honestly I would have it right next to the N64 and GC in terms of overall enjoyment of the games. But the system itself was flawed from the start which I could rant about all day. What's interesting is that I missed out on a couple games so I can see myself having 40 games in the end.

[QUOTE="platniumgamer"]

good riddance.

silversix_

good system dont really care what anybody else think

[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="StatusShuffle"]Had the worst MarioStatusShuffle

No one's going to take your sh*t seriously

Freaking loved the wii

Like the Gamecube to me it was an underrated console that never reached its full potential. It had MANY and dozens of flaws but its far from the worst console in history. I fairly enjoyed it because I got the right games for it and I'm not a fanboy of any factions. Im a gamer who likes games and enjoy games based on its fun factor. The Wii had some pretty fun games too..I think that what people miss the most this gen

No ones going to miss out the Wii when theres stellar and bigger games elsewhere now including the fun factor.

The best of Mario, Zelda and Metroid were on Previous Consoles. ie Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Goldeneye, etc.

The Wii failed for many Nintendo fans and aimed primarily at casuals and sales with cheaper technology and serious family friendly marketing.
Good for business, Bad for gamers.

Hopefully Wii:U will fill the void and be fully capable console for todays standards but I highly doubt it.

The Wii was just a last gen system, a gamecube with tacked on motion controls. As a result of this the Wii only had like 15 good games for it, I know this because that's how many Wii games I have, 15. And I only buy good games, most of which were Nintendo 1st party.

Nintendo is the least progressive company in the industry. If they were the only one's we would never get anywhere.

Not one thing on the Wii will be remembered except it can run gamecube games better than the gamecube.StatusShuffle

There's a high chance the Wii will get a similar treatment.

No ones going to miss out the Wii when theres stellar and bigger games elsewhere now including the fun factor.

The best of Mario, Zelda and Metroid were on Previous Consoles. ie Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Goldeneye, etc.

The Wii failed for many Nintendo fans and aimed primarily at casuals and sales with cheaper technology and serious family friendly marketing.
Good for business, Bad for gamers.
g0ddyX

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Oh boy, System Wars is going to have a ball tearing this article apart. :roll:locopatho

The funny thing about being the worst Nintendo console of all time is that you're still better than 90% of the consoles that have ever been released.

The Wii was amazing. I will miss it.