@Gue1: You're trying to make something out of nothing. Oddly enough you have posted this thread to a forum that is made up mainly of the same demographic...white males in their 20s.
@Gue1: You're trying to make something out of nothing. Oddly enough you have posted this thread to a forum that is made up mainly of the same demographic...white males in their 20s.
I think people in general need to grow the hell up. The feminist group needs to get over a couple guys getting hired. Gamers need to get over a lot more. Humanity (everyone) needs to start treating each other with a bit more courtesy and a hell of a lot more respect.
Threats from gamers like this is appalling to a level that makes me sad to call myself a gamer. Some of you still wonder why we (the hardcore group) are constantly frowned upon be society in general. The way you portray yourselves is the reason.
I think people in general need to grow the hell up. The feminist group needs to get over a couple guys getting hired. Gamers need to get over a lot more. Humanity (everyone) needs to start treating each other with a bit more courtesy and a hell of a lot more respect.
Threats from gamers like this is appalling to a level that makes me sad to call myself a gamer. Some of you still wonder why we (the hardcore group) are constantly frowned upon be society in general. The way you portray yourselves is the reason.
It's not just gamers. It's a species-wide trend. Or at least among the English, Polish, Russian, Dutch and German speaking communities that I have come across.
Just feel bad about being born a human in general, and join the NWO.
@bbkkristian: totally agree. Been of victim of the diversity first mentality myself. Got a 98 on the FDNY test but being white, Irish American going for a job heavy with that nationality I never got called for the physical. But nobody deserves the harassment. But when have people on the internet shown integrity in response?
I checked Samantha Allen's twitter account and found stuff related to Feminist Porn...
What in the actual ****? o___0
...... what is feminist porn?
Feminist are like PETA. A big fucking joke. They just like PETA, have ruined themselves by complaining about EVERYTHING and do stupid shit in a sad attempt to get attention. Nobody takes them seriously anymore and should just ignore them.
@MBirdy88: "she also just slated a potential future employer.... and many other employers will probably look at this and think "do I even want to risk speaking to this person"? talk about professional suicide."
That's pretty much what I got from this. Besides the blah blah poor me mantra.
I get it. Like I get why someone would be disappointed that Giantbomb who has Patrick talking about equality and diversity, and then they fill open spots, with 30 year old white dudes. I get that. I get why someone would be disappointed by that. The problem is though they were aiming for an experienced individual which in this medium is unfortunately a bunch of white dudes. Like a 5-8 man full time website (the giantbomb staff is actually really small) getting this much flack when Eurogamer, IGN, or Polygon don't get this is ridiculous.
But the residents of Mt. Pious do their usual thing where they handle this type of stuff with no grace. But to be fair all the people on the sister mountain for Mt. Pious were just as terrible. I can understand wanting to defend the GB guys, but if you need to post hateful shit, be it racist, sexist, homophobic or what have you, what did you actually accomplish? Justify people like Anita Snarkwhateverhername is and the residents of Mt. Pious? come on.
I'm a little surprised by Leigh Alexander's tweet. Patrick has pimped out her shit a bunch of times, she's been on bomin with the AM, and she tweets that? A little tasteless on her part as well.
@bbkkristian: totally agree. Been of victim of the diversity first mentality myself. Got a 98 on the FDNY test but being white, Irish American going for a job heavy with that nationality I never got called for the physical. But nobody deserves the harassment. But when have people on the internet shown integrity in response?
To be fair FDNY and NYPD are VERY hard to get into even if you score high on the tests. Good job on the score though. Keep trying you'll make it.
The sense of entitlement is getting out of hand in this country. But you see this all the time. A minority doesn't get a job or doesn't get into a college it's because if their race or sex. It can never be that they weren't good enough. We can thank our school systems and their damn participation ribbons and "everyone is special" mentality.
Can't stand nonsense like this. People on both sides of the argument are being childish and immature (I don't mean in this thread, I mean the original twitter fight...although there are some dumb post here too). Stupid people do have a right to voice their opinions, but we shouldn't pay them any attention.
...... what is feminist porn?
What the hell is feminist porn?
I have no bloody idea. And I don't wanna know either.
I found a link to one of her (deleted) tumblr posts. It's kinda sad really. She needs psychiatric help.
For those wondering what "feminist porn" is:
"Feminist pornography refers to a genre of film developed by and/or for women. It was created for the purposes of encouraging women and their self-beliefs of freedom through sexuality equality and pleasure"
Man, even their porn sounds lame.
Dum broad, bitch needs slapping and puttin back in her place
You realize it's comments like this that get people to sympathize with them right?
It's highly ignorant of you. While I don't agree with the feminist viewpoint and agree that they are highly radical nobody deserves to be told that a "bitch needs a slappin" incredibly ignorant.
feminism is a plague that needs to be eradicated
I love that gamers take moments like this to shine and show how mature and understanding and...oh wait...nope. A childrens hobby where the fans act like children.
And you wonder why no one takes gaming seriously. "WAAAHH GAMING IS AN ART FORM." "WAAAHH STOP CRITIQUING GAMING AS IF ITS AN ART FORM!!!" "WAAAAHH NO ONE TAKES GAMES SERIOUSLY AS AN ART FORM!!!" "WAAAHH LEAVE YOUR MODERN IDEAS OUT OF MY GAMING!!!!" "BUT PLEASE TAKE IT SERIOUSLY AS AN ART FORM!!!"
I see SW's going full dumbass today.
Bunch of freakin neckbeards in here, man.
They say it's not how you act when you're being watched but how you act when no one is looking. What you say under an anonymous username says more about you than how you act in the real world. The way people attack women online is...downright scary.
Soo........uuuuhhhhhhh.......................... they get turned on by having someone recite in a sexy manner how great and free they are? O.o?.......
I... guess?
I shall conduct extensive research later tonight.
At the moment I can't think of anything more entertaining than watching a feminist melting down like a petulant child. They had to be put on earth for entertainment value and nothing more.
so, wouldn't hiring a woman just because she's a woman be sexist?
It's such a Topsy turvy topic, Feminists and those who don't agree with it both have very very rough roads to follow.
There can literally be no end the the debate.
But the problem lies within the internet. When there's anonymity anyone can say whatever they want without fear of repercussion.
That creates sympathizers for the feminist cause.
The people who don't agree with feminist don't speak up logically.
The other side of it or the scum has megaphones they're not afraid to use.
But again the feminist have to realize this is a two way street. They can't expect to stick their hand in the bear cage and be angry at the bear when it bites back.
People trying to have a discussion and being told "go **** yourself" isn't really a progressive discussion.
so, wouldn't hiring a woman just because she's a woman be sexist?
It's such a Topsy turvy topic, Feminists and those who don't agree with it both have very very rough roads to follow.
There can literally be no end the the debate.
But the problem lies within the internet. When there's anonymity anyone can say whatever they want without fear of repercussion.
That creates sympathizers for the feminist cause.
The people who don't agree with feminist don't speak up logically.
The other side of it or the scum has megaphones they're not afraid to use.
But again the feminist have to realize this is a two way street. They can't expect to stick their hand in the bear cage and be angry at the bear when it bites back.
People trying to have a discussion and being told "go **** yourself" isn't really a progressive discussion.
unfortunately a lot of the radical ********'s don't really want equality, they just want to bring men down
so, wouldn't hiring a woman just because she's a woman be sexist?
It's such a Topsy turvy topic, Feminists and those who don't agree with it both have very very rough roads to follow.
There can literally be no end the the debate.
But the problem lies within the internet. When there's anonymity anyone can say whatever they want without fear of repercussion.
That creates sympathizers for the feminist cause.
The people who don't agree with feminist don't speak up logically.
The other side of it or the scum has megaphones they're not afraid to use.
But again the feminist have to realize this is a two way street. They can't expect to stick their hand in the bear cage and be angry at the bear when it bites back.
People trying to have a discussion and being told "go **** yourself" isn't really a progressive discussion.
unfortunately a lot of the radical ********'s don't really want equality, they just want to bring men down
Unfortunately that's the truth and the problem is the internet. Instead of trying to rationalize we get highly defensive, using hateful slurs and so on doesn't help us to examine this extreme feminism with a fine tooth comb.
It allows them to open up and go on the attack even more giving them more reason and cause to be supported.
so, wouldn't hiring a woman just because she's a woman be sexist?
It's such a Topsy turvy topic, Feminists and those who don't agree with it both have very very rough roads to follow.
There can literally be no end the the debate.
But the problem lies within the internet. When there's anonymity anyone can say whatever they want without fear of repercussion.
That creates sympathizers for the feminist cause.
The people who don't agree with feminist don't speak up logically.
The other side of it or the scum has megaphones they're not afraid to use.
But again the feminist have to realize this is a two way street. They can't expect to stick their hand in the bear cage and be angry at the bear when it bites back.
People trying to have a discussion and being told "go **** yourself" isn't really a progressive discussion.
unfortunately a lot of the radical ********'s don't really want equality, they just want to bring men down
Not true. This reminds me of the hilarious concept of reverse racism. When the dominant majority suddenly becomes so afraid of the minority. Why are men so scared? You put the term NAZI on such a positive word such as feminism in order to compare it to...HITLER of all people? Crazy.
The only nazi's are the men who are so afraid of women having a voice or any power they throw this disgusting term around like it's just normal to compare anything to nazi's.
On one hand, I'm glad to see the press getting shit that's in the same vein as the nonsense they spew whenever a game doesn't have a female lead. The whole Ubisoft thing is hilarious now. They hire women, they have women in high ranking positions, they were the only company to have a non-white non-male host at E3, they've had games with female leads and games with non-white leads yet the press takes all of that in and somehow comes up with the idea that they're like bastions of racism and sexism in the industry.
Meanwhile the folk at Giantbomb who took major issue with Ubisoft have no females in high positions, have no minorities in high positions, have no minorities on their staff and and have no females on their staff. They are considerably worse than a company like Ubisoft. You generally avoid equal opportunity issues by falling back on percentages vs raw numbers. You could have more white males than any other group but if you hire an equal percentage (ie 10% of white males who apply get hired and 10% of asian females who apply get hired) than there's no issues. That's just how the applicants turned out. Giantbomb is at a whopping 0% for non-white males, which is immediately suspect. Good thing they got bought by Gamespot, owned by CBS so they can hide their preference and fall back on global CBS statistics.
On the other hand, stfu Leigh Alexander. She has had it in for them ever since she was on a E3 podcast, couldn't control her liquor, and just started spewing nonsense financial figures and professed a sexual Nazi fetish.
@MBirdy88: stupidest things I've read in a while. You should clearly have a say, but you shouldn't be allowed to tell a woman what to do with her body. You're not the one that has to carry the kid for 9 months.
If you got her pregnant man up and be a father. If you did and you want it and she doesn't have that conversation with her, but the ball is essentially always in her court because you don't have to have that baby in your uterus for 9 months.
They hired the more qualified individuals. There's nothing wrong with diversity, but they are a company at the end of the day, and some of these individuals look like the type of individuals you would go out of your way to avoid. Lulz were had at the "Go **** yourself" comment... Maturity abounds.
@MBirdy88: stupidest things I've read in a while. You should clearly have a say, but you shouldn't be allowed to tell a woman what to do with their bodies. You're not the one that has to carry the kid for 9 months.
If you got her pregnant man up and be a father. If you did and you want it and she doesn't have that conversation with her, but the ball is essentially always in her court because you don't have to have that baby in your uterus for 9 months.
Unless she was raped, isn't it as much her fault as any guys for spreading her legs? Don't you find it disgusting that they kill babies as a form of birth control regularly, instead of doing it out of necessity like danger to the female with child or rape?
What gives women the right to destroy life in such a casual way on a regular basis? What I mean is, do you think it's perfectly acceptable for a woman to sleep around and have abortions regularly if she so chooses? Don't you think that's kind of wrong?
@Bread_or_Decide: it's pretty disgusting man. People indeed show their true colors and hatred for woman online on a consistent basis.
@MBirdy88: stupidest things I've read in a while. You should clearly have a say, but you shouldn't be allowed to tell a woman what to do with their bodies. You're not the one that has to carry the kid for 9 months.
If you got her pregnant man up and be a father. If you did and you want it and she doesn't have that conversation with her, but the ball is essentially always in her court because you don't have to have that baby in your uterus for 9 months.
Unless she was raped, isn't it as much her fault as any guys for spreading her legs? Don't you find it disgusting that they kill babies as a form of birth control regularly, instead of doing it out of necessity like danger to the female with child or rape?
What gives women the right to destroy life in such a casual way on a casual basis? What I mean is, do you think it's perfectly acceptable for a woman to sleep around and have abortions regularly if she so chooses? Don't you think that's kind of wrong?
Isn't it her FAULT? Why must it be a FAULT? It can be a mistake, mistakes happen. Guys and girls sleep together without protection all the time. Killing babies isn't a form of birth control. It's an honest solution for people who are not ready nor do not want kids.
What gives a woman the right? What gives you the right to tell her what she can or cannot do in her life? But as long as you're controlling other peoples lives what should I have for dinner?
Right and wrong is not for you to decide. I hate smoking but I'm not gonna take the cigarette out of peoples mouths. My girlfriend is a vegetarian but she can't take meat off my plate. Right and wrong is a personal decision. Not for those in power or for you to decide.
@Bigboi500: of course not man. I definitely don't think it should be a casual thing by ANY means, and if I got my girl pregnant I'd want her to keep it.
But that's the mistake that people make in the Pro-Life/Pro-Choice argument. Pro-choice isn't Pro-Abortion by a longshot. Many pro-choice people, including tons of women I know, are against abortions and would never get one based on their own principals. They just don't think someone else should decide what they do with their bodies.
I think a man clearly has a choice as to whether or not to have a kid. It's when he decides to wrap it up or not.
They hired the more qualified individuals. There's nothing wrong with diversity, but they are a company at the end of the day, and some of these individuals look like the type of individuals you would go out of your way to avoid. Lulz were had at the "Go **** yourself" comment... Maturity abounds.
Well my gripe with this is, when ideologies start bleeding into others people literal business. These guys started giant bomb and for people to chime in and tell them who they hired is wrong is beginning to overstep the line in a big way. Granted I agree we should have equality at parity ( granted it's sad that the world can still be an upside down place). But the white male is equally terribly represented.
This is my argument.
I am a 26 year old white male living in new york. I'm straight and white.
Did I ask to be born this way? No, I was brought into this world with with no say. The way i've grown up, the way my brain and mind work in tandem have created me.
But I wasn't asked to be born a straight white male, to sit and have the feminist attack them or people like me is kind of redundant because nobody asked to be born white, straight and male.
White men are poorly represented in video games and media as well.
I will never have a body like brad pitt in fight club, it's not in my genetics. But i'm told that's what a MAN should look like.
We're represented as psychotic killers, Gaming the system via wallstreet being shown to be dirty crooks, and so on.
Look at Alex De Large from A Clockwork Orange. The very meaning of psychotic, being represented as a white male.
What a good lookin man looks like by the worlds standards i'm not allowed to date skinny women because i'm 260 pounds of semi flab.
But do I complain? No as me I work on it in silence making strides. I don't get on the megaphone that is the internet and complain
about other peoples decisions, because when you start doing that your bias truly shows itself.
You have to play the cards you were dealt to truly make an impact.
Men don't complain about being misrepresented at all. Period.
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