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@Bread_or_Decide: That's true, but nobody should be allowed to kill a child over an inconvenience. It's not like having a tooth ache and getting it pulled. We're talking about a living, breathing thing here. People shouldn't use abortions as a casual practice again and again because of some irresponsible life style. That's immoral no matter how you view it. If a woman doesn't want a child, she should give it up for adoption because there are plenty of people that would love it vs having it destroyed in the womb.

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#102  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@Animal-Mother said:

@lundy86_4 said:

They hired the more qualified individuals. There's nothing wrong with diversity, but they are a company at the end of the day, and some of these individuals look like the type of individuals you would go out of your way to avoid. Lulz were had at the "Go **** yourself" comment... Maturity abounds.

Well my gripe with this is, when ideologies start bleeding into others people literal business. These guys started giant bomb and for people to chime in and tell them who they hired is wrong is beginning to overstep the line in a big way. Granted I agree we should have equality at parity ( granted it's sad that the world can still be an upside down place). But the white male is equally terribly represented.

This is my argument.

I am a 26 year old white male living in new york. I'm straight and white.

Did I ask to be born this way? No, I was brought into this world with with no say. The way i've grown up, the way my brain and mind work in tandem have created me.

But I wasn't asked to be born a straight white male, to sit and have the feminist attack them or people like me is kind of redundant because nobody asked to be born white, straight and male.

White men are poorly represented in video games and media as well.

I will never have a body like brad pitt in fight club, it's not in my genetics. But i'm told that's what a MAN should look like.

We're represented as psychotic killers, Gaming the system via wallstreet being shown to be dirty crooks, and so on.

Look at Alex De Large from A Clockwork Orange. The very meaning of psychotic, being represented as a white male.

What a good lookin man looks like by the worlds standards i'm not allowed to date skinny women because i'm 260 pounds of semi flab.

But do I complain? No as me I work on it in silence making strides. I don't get on the megaphone that is the internet and complain

about other peoples decisions, because when you start doing that your bias truly shows itself.

You have to play the cards you were dealt to truly make an impact.

Men don't complain about being misrepresented at all. Period.

Yeah but....the white straight male has the most opportunities. Every hero...white straight male. Every lead role on TV...white straight male. The majority of literary heroes are...white straight males.

No offense but you're in a good group to be in. Louis CK had a great joke about how awesome it was to be a white straight male.

Even the negative descriptions are...well at least you're being represented at all. Okay you're psycho killers in movies...but you're the dominant psycho killer.

To be fair there's nothing stopping you from having brad pitt's body or something like it.

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#103  Edited By deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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@StormyJoe said:

@Gue1: Considering the daily news videos on GameSpot and IGN are hosted by women, she really has no basis for her statement.

Thats abit naive of you... they are just pretty girls to lure us white males to watch the videos more. hence why they are plastered all over the homepage. that is my logic, and probably feminists too.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

Yeah but....the white straight male has the most opportunities. Every hero...white straight male. Every lead role on TV...white straight male. The majority of literary heroes are...white straight males.

No offense but you're in a good group to be in.

That's pretty subjective tbh.

Driving a car and not having to worry about police? Yes.

Trying to get a job where government quotas are in full force? Not so much.

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@Bigboi500 said:

@Bread_or_Decide: That's true, but nobody should be allowed to kill a child over an inconvenience. It's not like having a tooth ache and getting it pulled. We're talking about a living, breathing thing here. People shouldn't use abortions as a casual practice again and again because of some irresponsible life style. That's immoral no matter how you view it. If a woman doesn't want a child, she should give it up for adoption because there are plenty of people that would love it vs having it destroyed in the womb.

I think you're very naive to think that abortion cases are all because of irresponsible people and i don't get why you paint everyone under one brush. It's like saying all criminals are morally corrupt rapists and murders. I don't think you understand what people actually go through since you think abortions are "casual" choices and you've picked the minority of cases to form an opinion around.

Also you got the breathing bit wrong, a collection of cells aren't breathing and are only as alive as the cells in your hands and feet. By all means you can have your own point of view on when life begins but i don't thinks it's right that you brand people as baby murderers.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

@lostrib said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@lostrib said:

so, wouldn't hiring a woman just because she's a woman be sexist?

It's such a Topsy turvy topic, Feminists and those who don't agree with it both have very very rough roads to follow.

There can literally be no end the the debate.

But the problem lies within the internet. When there's anonymity anyone can say whatever they want without fear of repercussion.

That creates sympathizers for the feminist cause.

The people who don't agree with feminist don't speak up logically.

The other side of it or the scum has megaphones they're not afraid to use.

But again the feminist have to realize this is a two way street. They can't expect to stick their hand in the bear cage and be angry at the bear when it bites back.

People trying to have a discussion and being told "go **** yourself" isn't really a progressive discussion.

unfortunately a lot of the radical ********'s don't really want equality, they just want to bring men down

Not true. This reminds me of the hilarious concept of reverse racism. When the dominant majority suddenly becomes so afraid of the minority. Why are men so scared? You put the term NAZI on such a positive word such as feminism in order to compare it to...HITLER of all people? Crazy.

The only nazi's are the men who are so afraid of women having a voice or any power they throw this disgusting term around like it's just normal to compare anything to nazi's.

...reverse racism is just racism.

Such equality

Kill all men hashtag trending on twitter:http://www.salon.com/2013/05/07/twitters_latest_unfunny_trend_killallmen/

Reducing men to 1 in 4 would solve the worlds problems: https://twitter.com/greatauntanna/status/331752333597892608

But wanting to kill all men is justified, so it's okay: https://twitter.com/mortari/status/331732959566639105

She's not a nazi, she just wants to murder half the population: http://littlemissmisandry.tumblr.com/post/68186539699/********-is-such-a-misleading-term-nazis

or some of the stupid fucked up shit found here: http://64bitwar.tumblr.com/post/69230126823

Including:

But don't forget, all men are rapists: http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1993-05-08/news/1993128032_1_potential-rapists-campus-feminist-art

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@lostrib said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@lostrib said:

so, wouldn't hiring a woman just because she's a woman be sexist?

It's such a Topsy turvy topic, Feminists and those who don't agree with it both have very very rough roads to follow.

There can literally be no end the the debate.

But the problem lies within the internet. When there's anonymity anyone can say whatever they want without fear of repercussion.

That creates sympathizers for the feminist cause.

The people who don't agree with feminist don't speak up logically.

The other side of it or the scum has megaphones they're not afraid to use.

But again the feminist have to realize this is a two way street. They can't expect to stick their hand in the bear cage and be angry at the bear when it bites back.

People trying to have a discussion and being told "go **** yourself" isn't really a progressive discussion.

unfortunately a lot of the radical ********'s don't really want equality, they just want to bring men down

I dont agree 100% here but its kinda noteworthy that most of the extreme radical feminist, like this Sam, Leigh and many others are actually born as men. So i think its is more that they have some personal issues which they let out and at the same time like with people who find religion later in life think they have something extra to prove. So they get extra extreme in their feminist views.

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#108  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@Bigboi500 said:

@Bread_or_Decide: That's true, but nobody should be allowed to kill a child over an inconvenience. It's not like having a tooth ache and getting it pulled. We're talking about a living, breathing thing here. People shouldn't use abortions as a casual practice again and again because of some irresponsible life style. That's immoral no matter how you view it. If a woman doesn't want a child, she should give it up for adoption because there are plenty of people that would love it vs having it destroyed in the womb.

People have to live with their decisions. But they have a right to that choice. As humans we put all our emotions onto fetuses, cats, dogs, and trees. Emotions aside, it's not the end of the world to have an abortion. There is no shortage of babies in this world. Even roaches have babies, it's not a big deal, it's not a miracle. It's an act of nature.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@lundy86_4 said:

They hired the more qualified individuals. There's nothing wrong with diversity, but they are a company at the end of the day, and some of these individuals look like the type of individuals you would go out of your way to avoid. Lulz were had at the "Go **** yourself" comment... Maturity abounds.

Well my gripe with this is, when ideologies start bleeding into others people literal business. These guys started giant bomb and for people to chime in and tell them who they hired is wrong is beginning to overstep the line in a big way. Granted I agree we should have equality at parity ( granted it's sad that the world can still be an upside down place). But the white male is equally terribly represented.

This is my argument.

I am a 26 year old white male living in new york. I'm straight and white.

Did I ask to be born this way? No, I was brought into this world with with no say. The way i've grown up, the way my brain and mind work in tandem have created me.

But I wasn't asked to be born a straight white male, to sit and have the feminist attack them or people like me is kind of redundant because nobody asked to be born white, straight and male.

White men are poorly represented in video games and media as well.

I will never have a body like brad pitt in fight club, it's not in my genetics. But i'm told that's what a MAN should look like.

We're represented as psychotic killers, Gaming the system via wallstreet being shown to be dirty crooks, and so on.

Look at Alex De Large from A Clockwork Orange. The very meaning of psychotic, being represented as a white male.

What a good lookin man looks like by the worlds standards i'm not allowed to date skinny women because i'm 260 pounds of semi flab.

But do I complain? No as me I work on it in silence making strides. I don't get on the megaphone that is the internet and complain

about other peoples decisions, because when you start doing that your bias truly shows itself.

You have to play the cards you were dealt to truly make an impact.

Men don't complain about being misrepresented at all. Period.

Yeah but....the white straight male has the most opportunities. Every hero...white straight male. Every lead role on TV...white straight male. The majority of literary heroes are...white straight males.

No offense but you're in a good group to be in. Louis CK had a great joke about how awesome it was to be a white straight male.

Even the negative descriptions are...well at least you're being represented at all. Okay you're psycho killers in movies...but you're the dominant psycho killer.

To be fair there's nothing stopping you from having brad pitt's body or something like it.

In the real world the straight white male has a lot of opportunities you're right.

But people of color are highly represented too and are represented as heroes. Idris Elba in pacific rim, will smith and martin lawrence in bad boys, wesley snipes in blade. Samuel L Jackson as nick fury, Denzel washington, morgan freeman, Jamie Fox, Tyerese gibson.


The list goes on and on. Everyone's represented in every facet of life. It's been becoming this way for quite some time.

But you're right it seems there is a trend. But it goes both ways. Everyone can be portrayed piss poorly.

And while I agree gaming is a little behind the curve with it's characters it's getting there. http://www.giantbomb.com/profile/ryonslaught/lists/black-video-game-characters/69288/


Also yeah genetically on some level it's stopping me :P Though i'm very happy i've come down from 400 pounds in the past 3 years

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@hoosier7 said:

@Bigboi500 said:

@Bread_or_Decide: That's true, but nobody should be allowed to kill a child over an inconvenience. It's not like having a tooth ache and getting it pulled. We're talking about a living, breathing thing here. People shouldn't use abortions as a casual practice again and again because of some irresponsible life style. That's immoral no matter how you view it. If a woman doesn't want a child, she should give it up for adoption because there are plenty of people that would love it vs having it destroyed in the womb.

I think you're very naive to think that abortion cases are all because of irresponsible people and i don't get why you paint everyone under one brush. It's like saying all criminals are morally corrupt rapists and murders. I don't think you understand what people actually go through since you think abortions are "casual" choices and you've picked the minority of cases to form an opinion around.

Also you got the breathing bit wrong, a collection of cells aren't breathing and are only as alive as the cells in your hands and feet. By all means you can have your own point of view on when life begins but i don't thinks it's right that you brand people as baby murderers.

My professor said the cell division was complete around the ten week mark. That means a human being is made after that point. And I never said all cases was like that, but there's no denying that a lot of women do that very thing.

Unless the female in question is at risk, was raped, or under a certain time frame, she has no legit right to kill a baby for convenience.

Smoking and eating meat only affects one's self, not others. People are free to kill themselves, but life style choices and personal body rights don't include harming others.

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It's a double edged sword. On one hand if you start hiring people simply because of their racial background (or their sex) then that's not right but at the same time continuing to hire white males also continues the problem.

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#112  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@Bigboi500 said:

@Bread_or_Decide said:

Yeah but....the white straight male has the most opportunities. Every hero...white straight male. Every lead role on TV...white straight male. The majority of literary heroes are...white straight males.

No offense but you're in a good group to be in.

That's pretty subjective tbh.

Driving a car and not having to worry about police? Yes.

Trying to get a job where government quotas are in full force? Not so much.

Subjective? All I have to do is go watch a movie and count how many white straight males for everyone one black person. That's not subjective.

Also...the two thousand white straight males working at the FBI...versus the two black people they hired to fill a quota. Yeah I'm really shedding tears for all those poor white straight males. MY GOD...how unfairly they are being treated. So sad.

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@Bigboi500 said:

@hoosier7 said:

@Bigboi500 said:

@Bread_or_Decide: That's true, but nobody should be allowed to kill a child over an inconvenience. It's not like having a tooth ache and getting it pulled. We're talking about a living, breathing thing here. People shouldn't use abortions as a casual practice again and again because of some irresponsible life style. That's immoral no matter how you view it. If a woman doesn't want a child, she should give it up for adoption because there are plenty of people that would love it vs having it destroyed in the womb.

I think you're very naive to think that abortion cases are all because of irresponsible people and i don't get why you paint everyone under one brush. It's like saying all criminals are morally corrupt rapists and murders. I don't think you understand what people actually go through since you think abortions are "casual" choices and you've picked the minority of cases to form an opinion around.

Also you got the breathing bit wrong, a collection of cells aren't breathing and are only as alive as the cells in your hands and feet. By all means you can have your own point of view on when life begins but i don't thinks it's right that you brand people as baby murderers.

My professor said the cell division was complete around the ten week mark. That means a human being is made after that point.

Uhhhhh, depends what you mean by cell division being complete.

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@Bigboi500 said:

@hoosier7 said:

@Bigboi500 said:

@Bread_or_Decide: That's true, but nobody should be allowed to kill a child over an inconvenience. It's not like having a tooth ache and getting it pulled. We're talking about a living, breathing thing here. People shouldn't use abortions as a casual practice again and again because of some irresponsible life style. That's immoral no matter how you view it. If a woman doesn't want a child, she should give it up for adoption because there are plenty of people that would love it vs having it destroyed in the womb.

I think you're very naive to think that abortion cases are all because of irresponsible people and i don't get why you paint everyone under one brush. It's like saying all criminals are morally corrupt rapists and murders. I don't think you understand what people actually go through since you think abortions are "casual" choices and you've picked the minority of cases to form an opinion around.

Also you got the breathing bit wrong, a collection of cells aren't breathing and are only as alive as the cells in your hands and feet. By all means you can have your own point of view on when life begins but i don't thinks it's right that you brand people as baby murderers.

My professor said the cell division was complete around the ten week mark. That means a human being is made after that point. And I never said all cases was like that, but there's no denying that a lot of women do that very thing.

Unless the female in question is at risk, was raped, or under a certain time frame, she has no legit right to kill a baby for convenience.

Smoking and eating meat only affects one's self, not others. People are free to kill themselves, but life style choices and personal body rights don't include harming others.

Thanks to the law she has a legit right.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

@Bigboi500 said:

@Bread_or_Decide said:

Yeah but....the white straight male has the most opportunities. Every hero...white straight male. Every lead role on TV...white straight male. The majority of literary heroes are...white straight males.

No offense but you're in a good group to be in.

That's pretty subjective tbh.

Driving a car and not having to worry about police? Yes.

Trying to get a job where government quotas are in full force? Not so much.

Subjective? All I have to do is go watch a movie and count how many white straight males for everyone one black person. That's not subjective.

Also...the two thousand white straight males working at the FBI...versus the two they hired to fill a quota. Yeah I'm really shedding tears for all those poor white straight males. MY GOD...how unfairly they are being treated. So sad.

Maybe those two thousand white straight males are more qualified to be in those positions? Maybe government quotas fill positions with unqualified people for political purposes? Maybe affirmative action should be repealed? Maybe skin color and sexual orientation shouldn't be considered when applying for a job? Maybe personal responsibility should determine where one gets in life?

Crazy notions, I know...

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@Jacanuk said:

@lostrib said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@lostrib said:

so, wouldn't hiring a woman just because she's a woman be sexist?

It's such a Topsy turvy topic, Feminists and those who don't agree with it both have very very rough roads to follow.

There can literally be no end the the debate.

But the problem lies within the internet. When there's anonymity anyone can say whatever they want without fear of repercussion.

That creates sympathizers for the feminist cause.

The people who don't agree with feminist don't speak up logically.

The other side of it or the scum has megaphones they're not afraid to use.

But again the feminist have to realize this is a two way street. They can't expect to stick their hand in the bear cage and be angry at the bear when it bites back.

People trying to have a discussion and being told "go **** yourself" isn't really a progressive discussion.

unfortunately a lot of the radical ********'s don't really want equality, they just want to bring men down

I dont agree 100% here but its kinda noteworthy that most of the extreme radical feminist, like this Sam, Leigh and many others are actually born as men. So i think its is more that they have some personal issues which they let out and at the same time like with people who find religion later in life think they have something extra to prove. So they get extra extreme in their feminist views.

Is it proven they are transgender?

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#117  Edited By Bread_or_Decide
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@Bigboi500 said:

@Bread_or_Decide said:

@Bigboi500 said:

@Bread_or_Decide said:

Yeah but....the white straight male has the most opportunities. Every hero...white straight male. Every lead role on TV...white straight male. The majority of literary heroes are...white straight males.

No offense but you're in a good group to be in.

That's pretty subjective tbh.

Driving a car and not having to worry about police? Yes.

Trying to get a job where government quotas are in full force? Not so much.

Subjective? All I have to do is go watch a movie and count how many white straight males for everyone one black person. That's not subjective.

Also...the two thousand white straight males working at the FBI...versus the two they hired to fill a quota. Yeah I'm really shedding tears for all those poor white straight males. MY GOD...how unfairly they are being treated. So sad.

Maybe those two thousand white straight males are more qualified to be in those positions? Maybe government quotas fill positions with unqualified people for political purposes? Maybe affirmative action should be repealed? Maybe skin color and sexual orientation shouldn't be considered when applying for a job? Maybe personal responsibility should determine where one gets in life?

Crazy notions, I know...

MAYBE..you don't understand what affirmative action really is and why it exists. Because the black hired would be just as qualified if not more than his white counter part. But you see hundreds of years of slavery and discrimination put them at a disadvantage for these jobs for years and years to come.

I mean it's only been SIXTY years since civil rights happened. That's nothing.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@lundy86_4 said:

They hired the more qualified individuals. There's nothing wrong with diversity, but they are a company at the end of the day, and some of these individuals look like the type of individuals you would go out of your way to avoid. Lulz were had at the "Go **** yourself" comment... Maturity abounds.

Well my gripe with this is, when ideologies start bleeding into others people literal business. These guys started giant bomb and for people to chime in and tell them who they hired is wrong is beginning to overstep the line in a big way. Granted I agree we should have equality at parity ( granted it's sad that the world can still be an upside down place). But the white male is equally terribly represented.

This is my argument.

I am a 26 year old white male living in new york. I'm straight and white.

Did I ask to be born this way? No, I was brought into this world with with no say. The way i've grown up, the way my brain and mind work in tandem have created me.

But I wasn't asked to be born a straight white male, to sit and have the feminist attack them or people like me is kind of redundant because nobody asked to be born white, straight and male.

White men are poorly represented in video games and media as well.

I will never have a body like brad pitt in fight club, it's not in my genetics. But i'm told that's what a MAN should look like.

We're represented as psychotic killers, Gaming the system via wallstreet being shown to be dirty crooks, and so on.

Look at Alex De Large from A Clockwork Orange. The very meaning of psychotic, being represented as a white male.

What a good lookin man looks like by the worlds standards i'm not allowed to date skinny women because i'm 260 pounds of semi flab.

But do I complain? No as me I work on it in silence making strides. I don't get on the megaphone that is the internet and complain

about other peoples decisions, because when you start doing that your bias truly shows itself.

You have to play the cards you were dealt to truly make an impact.

Men don't complain about being misrepresented at all. Period.

Yeah but....the white straight male has the most opportunities. Every hero...white straight male. Every lead role on TV...white straight male. The majority of literary heroes are...white straight males.

No offense but you're in a good group to be in. Louis CK had a great joke about how awesome it was to be a white straight male.

Even the negative descriptions are...well at least you're being represented at all. Okay you're psycho killers in movies...but you're the dominant psycho killer.

To be fair there's nothing stopping you from having brad pitt's body or something like it.

Don't give white women a pass either. If there's ever a female protagonist , they're usually white as well. That the constant - not gender. Or if someone needs to be saved , it's a white female. Even from non white game publishers. But of course , the old white-feminist strategy of playing the victim ALWAYS negates that.

Gotta love living in a system of global white supremacy !

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

Thanks to the law she has a legit right.

Same laws that protect dirty police officers who kill black people unjustly on a regular basis. Same laws that protect heartless corporations over hard working honest people. Same law that protects the rich over the poor.

Thanks, law.

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@vickissv2 said:

@Bread_or_Decide said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@lundy86_4 said:

They hired the more qualified individuals. There's nothing wrong with diversity, but they are a company at the end of the day, and some of these individuals look like the type of individuals you would go out of your way to avoid. Lulz were had at the "Go **** yourself" comment... Maturity abounds.

Well my gripe with this is, when ideologies start bleeding into others people literal business. These guys started giant bomb and for people to chime in and tell them who they hired is wrong is beginning to overstep the line in a big way. Granted I agree we should have equality at parity ( granted it's sad that the world can still be an upside down place). But the white male is equally terribly represented.

This is my argument.

I am a 26 year old white male living in new york. I'm straight and white.

Did I ask to be born this way? No, I was brought into this world with with no say. The way i've grown up, the way my brain and mind work in tandem have created me.

But I wasn't asked to be born a straight white male, to sit and have the feminist attack them or people like me is kind of redundant because nobody asked to be born white, straight and male.

White men are poorly represented in video games and media as well.

I will never have a body like brad pitt in fight club, it's not in my genetics. But i'm told that's what a MAN should look like.

We're represented as psychotic killers, Gaming the system via wallstreet being shown to be dirty crooks, and so on.

Look at Alex De Large from A Clockwork Orange. The very meaning of psychotic, being represented as a white male.

What a good lookin man looks like by the worlds standards i'm not allowed to date skinny women because i'm 260 pounds of semi flab.

But do I complain? No as me I work on it in silence making strides. I don't get on the megaphone that is the internet and complain

about other peoples decisions, because when you start doing that your bias truly shows itself.

You have to play the cards you were dealt to truly make an impact.

Men don't complain about being misrepresented at all. Period.

Yeah but....the white straight male has the most opportunities. Every hero...white straight male. Every lead role on TV...white straight male. The majority of literary heroes are...white straight males.

No offense but you're in a good group to be in. Louis CK had a great joke about how awesome it was to be a white straight male.

Even the negative descriptions are...well at least you're being represented at all. Okay you're psycho killers in movies...but you're the dominant psycho killer.

To be fair there's nothing stopping you from having brad pitt's body or something like it.

Don't give white women a pass either. If there's ever a female protagonist , they're usually white as well. That the constant - not gender. Or if someone needs to be saved , it's a white female. Even from non white game publishers. But of course , the old white-feminist strategy of playing the victim ALWAYS negates that.

Gotta love living in a system of global white supremacy !

My new favorite thing is when a book writes them as having "olive" skin like katniss but they just cast them white anyway.

I've always wanted to write a character with no race and then watch who hollywood defaults to when they make the movie.

My guess...is white.

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@Animal-Mother said:

White men are poorly represented in video games and media as well.

Easily one of the silliest things I've ever seen on System Wars.

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@Silverbond said:

@Animal-Mother said:

White men are poorly represented in video games and media as well.

This is the silliest post I've ever seen you make, man.

Depends...what race are Crash, Jak, Daxter, Ratchet, and Sly?

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

@vickissv2 said:

@Bread_or_Decide said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@lundy86_4 said:

They hired the more qualified individuals. There's nothing wrong with diversity, but they are a company at the end of the day, and some of these individuals look like the type of individuals you would go out of your way to avoid. Lulz were had at the "Go **** yourself" comment... Maturity abounds.

Well my gripe with this is, when ideologies start bleeding into others people literal business. These guys started giant bomb and for people to chime in and tell them who they hired is wrong is beginning to overstep the line in a big way. Granted I agree we should have equality at parity ( granted it's sad that the world can still be an upside down place). But the white male is equally terribly represented.

This is my argument.

I am a 26 year old white male living in new york. I'm straight and white.

Did I ask to be born this way? No, I was brought into this world with with no say. The way i've grown up, the way my brain and mind work in tandem have created me.

But I wasn't asked to be born a straight white male, to sit and have the feminist attack them or people like me is kind of redundant because nobody asked to be born white, straight and male.

White men are poorly represented in video games and media as well.

I will never have a body like brad pitt in fight club, it's not in my genetics. But i'm told that's what a MAN should look like.

We're represented as psychotic killers, Gaming the system via wallstreet being shown to be dirty crooks, and so on.

Look at Alex De Large from A Clockwork Orange. The very meaning of psychotic, being represented as a white male.

What a good lookin man looks like by the worlds standards i'm not allowed to date skinny women because i'm 260 pounds of semi flab.

But do I complain? No as me I work on it in silence making strides. I don't get on the megaphone that is the internet and complain

about other peoples decisions, because when you start doing that your bias truly shows itself.

You have to play the cards you were dealt to truly make an impact.

Men don't complain about being misrepresented at all. Period.

Yeah but....the white straight male has the most opportunities. Every hero...white straight male. Every lead role on TV...white straight male. The majority of literary heroes are...white straight males.

No offense but you're in a good group to be in. Louis CK had a great joke about how awesome it was to be a white straight male.

Even the negative descriptions are...well at least you're being represented at all. Okay you're psycho killers in movies...but you're the dominant psycho killer.

To be fair there's nothing stopping you from having brad pitt's body or something like it.

Don't give white women a pass either. If there's ever a female protagonist , they're usually white as well. That the constant - not gender. Or if someone needs to be saved , it's a white female. Even from non white game publishers. But of course , the old white-feminist strategy of playing the victim ALWAYS negates that.

Gotta love living in a system of global white supremacy !

My new favorite thing is when a book writes them as having "olive" skin like katniss but they just cast them white anyway.

I've always wanted to write a character with no race and then watch who hollywood defaults to when they make the movie.

My guess...is white.

I suggest you read this.

http://www3.delta.edu/cmurbano/bio199/aids_sexuality/babyx.pdf

It's a very interesting take on gender, race and sexuality.

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@Animal-Mother said:

@Jacanuk said:

@lostrib said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@lostrib said:

so, wouldn't hiring a woman just because she's a woman be sexist?

It's such a Topsy turvy topic, Feminists and those who don't agree with it both have very very rough roads to follow.

There can literally be no end the the debate.

But the problem lies within the internet. When there's anonymity anyone can say whatever they want without fear of repercussion.

That creates sympathizers for the feminist cause.

The people who don't agree with feminist don't speak up logically.

The other side of it or the scum has megaphones they're not afraid to use.

But again the feminist have to realize this is a two way street. They can't expect to stick their hand in the bear cage and be angry at the bear when it bites back.

People trying to have a discussion and being told "go **** yourself" isn't really a progressive discussion.

unfortunately a lot of the radical ********'s don't really want equality, they just want to bring men down

I dont agree 100% here but its kinda noteworthy that most of the extreme radical feminist, like this Sam, Leigh and many others are actually born as men. So i think its is more that they have some personal issues which they let out and at the same time like with people who find religion later in life think they have something extra to prove. So they get extra extreme in their feminist views.

Is it proven they are transgender?

What do you mean proven? its not exactly a fact they hide. And there is nothing wrong with it.

But it´s also not a factor you can disregard when you hear their very radical opinions around men and women.

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Feminists tend to be the worst sexists. They become hate groups and do not stand for gender equality but find sexism in all places that are not important, and divert people from the places where sexism is a very real problem. When I hear someone is a feminist it repels me. Even though there must be actual people out there who want the world to be fair to both sexes it's almost a given that the feminist won't be that person at all. It would be wise of honest 'feminists' to use a label that is more appropriate. Like equalists or gender neutralists or whatever.

This seems to be just another 'feminist' who is bitching about anything that doesn't matter. I hope she won't get much media attention but I guess this is how she set this up.

I know this isn't the website for it, but no. Feminists are a group of hundreds of millions of men and women who believe a wide verity of things. Everything from the reasonable, to the insane, to the down right misogynistic. The internet on the other hand is quiet literally funded by controversy and scandal. The revenue for just about everything is view based, and human nature is far more likely to be intrigued by extreme positions then sensible ones. As example, take two different titles for a piece on GTA . Option A: Everyone in GTA V is a bunch of jerks. Option B: GTA V portrays women negatively.

If someone goes with the first title, anyone who bought GTA V will react with: "Well.... Duh. Good people don't run over sixty pedestrians on their way to murder fifty cops..." A few might enter to roll their eyes at the writer for saying the obvious, but since it is obvious most wont even bother clicking on the link. Option B on the other hand will create a firestorm. Many of the very same people who agree that GTA V is full of jerks, the female characters included, will now click on the article and engage within the comments section. They will come back again and again to check for replies. They will email the link to other people in order to get them to come take a look/comment/return to reply. This all translates to the writer's eyes turning into dollar signs as they watch their click count.

Both titles actually say the same thing. The second however just focuses the light in a way that will get people worked up. Narrow the beam and now everyone has the chance to bring their own baggage to the table. People who conclude that women are an oppressed majority will wade in because this supports their position. People who think the omission implies that men are portrayed well will wade in. Trolls? Every troll will see the flag go up and blitz right for it. Before anyone even knows what the article says, tens of thousands are engaged by a simple twitch in the title.

The process snowballs from there. The more sane a comment in reply to the article is, the more likely it will be ignored. Fifty comments of "Hey the title says it portrays women badly but the actual article is about how the game portrays everyone as jerks" will get lost, but one person ranting about how Rockstar hates women and black folks and homosexuals and is programing straight white males to hunt them for sport will get four hundred replies. The average commenter however won't engage with the fifty sane people. They will call the last one a doof or worse, and when thinking back they will only remember the insanity, letting that color their view of all. After all, what is memorable about sanity? And that is without even getting into the thousands of people who didn't bother to comment because they have the sanest of all positions: Commenting on clickbait isn't worth their time.

A feminist is a person who thinks women and men should be equal before the eyes of the law. A gamer is just someone who plays games. Both terms are pretty much universally applicable in western culture. If however you take a look at the internet's portrayal of gamers, you will see a lot of insanity and negativity that most certainly is not universally applicable. This same force acts on the internet's portray of feminists, turning a term that covers almost everyone into a insane and negative caricature.

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@hoosier7 said:

@Bigboi500 said:

@Bread_or_Decide: That's true, but nobody should be allowed to kill a child over an inconvenience. It's not like having a tooth ache and getting it pulled. We're talking about a living, breathing thing here. People shouldn't use abortions as a casual practice again and again because of some irresponsible life style. That's immoral no matter how you view it. If a woman doesn't want a child, she should give it up for adoption because there are plenty of people that would love it vs having it destroyed in the womb.

I think you're very naive to think that abortion cases are all because of irresponsible people and i don't get why you paint everyone under one brush. It's like saying all criminals are morally corrupt rapists and murders. I don't think you understand what people actually go through since you think abortions are "casual" choices and you've picked the minority of cases to form an opinion around.

Also you got the breathing bit wrong, a collection of cells aren't breathing and are only as alive as the cells in your hands and feet. By all means you can have your own point of view on when life begins but i don't thinks it's right that you brand people as baby murderers.

My professor said the cell division was complete around the ten week mark. That means a human being is made after that point. And I never said all cases was like that, but there's no denying that a lot of women do that very thing.

Unless the female in question is at risk, was raped, or under a certain time frame, she has no legit right to kill a baby for convenience.

Smoking and eating meat only affects one's self, not others. People are free to kill themselves, but life style choices and personal body rights don't include harming others.

Define a lot? If that's what you think then fine but don't consider it fact if you can't back it up.

That's if you take cell division as the point that it's considered life, there are many arguments for when life begins which is my point that it's not as black or white as have an abortion and you're killing a baby. The majority of abortions are made before the 8 week mark, before the time you set and the only abortions made near the maximum of 24 weeks are medical emergencies or if the child is thought to be heavily disabled.

The second line is quite right but that's as it is already, there is a time frame, if you want to argue when that time frame is then fine and yes there should be no right to kill babies for convenience but you've got to consider when they're living humans. If they're doing that under a set period (as the majority are as i said above) then they're not murdering babies making the bottom line irrelevant.

Also don't you think it's better to have abortions be legal than have women chancing unsafe abortions?

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@Bigboi500 said:

@Bread_or_Decide said:

Thanks to the law she has a legit right.

Same laws that protect dirty police officers who kill black people unjustly on a regular basis. Same laws that protect heartless corporations over hard working honest people. Same law that protects the rich over the poor.

Thanks, law.

What laws protect dirty police officers? I'm gonna start asking you for proof if you're going to make these claims.

Well I'm glad you don't make the laws. People have a choice. You're not some moral crusader for anything so stop thinking you are. Although I know what these churches do...get their followers into some big feeling like they've got a mission to enforce their stupid beliefs on others.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

@Bigboi500 said:

Maybe those two thousand white straight males are more qualified to be in those positions? Maybe government quotas fill positions with unqualified people for political purposes? Maybe affirmative action should be repealed? Maybe skin color and sexual orientation shouldn't be considered when applying for a job? Maybe personal responsibility should determine where one gets in life?

Crazy notions, I know...

MAYBE..you don't understand what affirmative action really is and why it exists. Because the black hired would be just as qualified if not more than his white counter part. But you see hundreds of years of slavery and discrimination put them at a disadvantage for these jobs for years and years to come.

I mean it's only been SIXTY years since civil rights happened. That's nothing.

Actually I'm as liberal as they come, I just don't like seeing unprotected children murdered with out cause. Maybe I understand a lot more than you do about how the real world works. Maybe I don't think people should play victims and ask for handouts.

Could be you're privileged and sheltered from it, or too young to understand what really goes on out there. Stop making excuses for people and letting irresponsible ones hide behind them, and live by a code of personal responsibility. Your grandchildren will be very appreciative for it, if they're not terminated over a minor inconvenience, that is. Good luck.

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OH JEEZ. i dont know why things like this is such an issue for both sides. yes there is racism/sexism/ gender inequality etc....but this affirmative action/ there should be a woman and/or minority in every job for the sake of isnt going to solve it. its just a point for the other side.

these oppressed groups should really strive for equality, not try to insert themselves by using racism/sexism/ gender inequality to their favor

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@Bigboi500 said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:

@Bigboi500 said:

Maybe those two thousand white straight males are more qualified to be in those positions? Maybe government quotas fill positions with unqualified people for political purposes? Maybe affirmative action should be repealed? Maybe skin color and sexual orientation shouldn't be considered when applying for a job? Maybe personal responsibility should determine where one gets in life?

Crazy notions, I know...

MAYBE..you don't understand what affirmative action really is and why it exists. Because the black hired would be just as qualified if not more than his white counter part. But you see hundreds of years of slavery and discrimination put them at a disadvantage for these jobs for years and years to come.

I mean it's only been SIXTY years since civil rights happened. That's nothing.

Actually I'm as liberal as they come, I just don't like seeing unprotected children murdered with out cause. Maybe I understand a lot more than you do about how the real world works. Maybe I don't think people should play victims and ask for handouts.

Could be you're privileged and sheltered from it, or too young to understand what really goes on out there. Stop making excuses for people and letting irresponsible ones hide behind them, and live by a code of personal responsibility. Your grandchildren will be very appreciative for it, if they're not terminated over a minor inconvenience, that is. Good luck.

I'm 33 years old. I'm hispanic. I've had nothing handed to me. My parents worked to put me in private school. Then I worked hard because they wanted the best for me. I graduated college with a 3.7 GPA. I got my first job as a glorifide messenger boy at my firm. (That's right I didn't feel a high paying amazing position was OWED to me simply because I graduated college. I started at the bottom.) Worked my way up to a job in the operations staff and passed my series 7 exam with a 79. No body handed me anything. So I think I know a little bit about how the real world works thank you very much.

And if my daughter chose an abortion as the best course of action I would support her and know that when she kept it it would be the right time in her life to support that child and give it the life it deserves.

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@Bigboi500 said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:

@Bigboi500 said:

Maybe those two thousand white straight males are more qualified to be in those positions? Maybe government quotas fill positions with unqualified people for political purposes? Maybe affirmative action should be repealed? Maybe skin color and sexual orientation shouldn't be considered when applying for a job? Maybe personal responsibility should determine where one gets in life?

Crazy notions, I know...

MAYBE..you don't understand what affirmative action really is and why it exists. Because the black hired would be just as qualified if not more than his white counter part. But you see hundreds of years of slavery and discrimination put them at a disadvantage for these jobs for years and years to come.

I mean it's only been SIXTY years since civil rights happened. That's nothing.

Actually I'm as liberal as they come, I just don't like seeing unprotected children murdered with out cause. Maybe I understand a lot more than you do about how the real world works. Maybe I don't think people should play victims and ask for handouts.

Could be you're privileged and sheltered from it, or too young to understand what really goes on out there. Stop making excuses for people and letting irresponsible ones hide behind them, and live by a code of personal responsibility. Your grandchildren will be very appreciative for it, if they're not terminated over a minor inconvenience, that is. Good luck.

As to the first part did you run out of arguments? because that is a very weak argument, also its funny that you call yourself Liberal but also have some very conservative views.

But i agree with Bread, its a womans body and they have every right to decide over it.

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@hoosier7 said:

@Bigboi500 said:

@hoosier7 said:

@Bigboi500 said:

@Bread_or_Decide: That's true, but nobody should be allowed to kill a child over an inconvenience. It's not like having a tooth ache and getting it pulled. We're talking about a living, breathing thing here. People shouldn't use abortions as a casual practice again and again because of some irresponsible life style. That's immoral no matter how you view it. If a woman doesn't want a child, she should give it up for adoption because there are plenty of people that would love it vs having it destroyed in the womb.

I think you're very naive to think that abortion cases are all because of irresponsible people and i don't get why you paint everyone under one brush. It's like saying all criminals are morally corrupt rapists and murders. I don't think you understand what people actually go through since you think abortions are "casual" choices and you've picked the minority of cases to form an opinion around.

Also you got the breathing bit wrong, a collection of cells aren't breathing and are only as alive as the cells in your hands and feet. By all means you can have your own point of view on when life begins but i don't thinks it's right that you brand people as baby murderers.

My professor said the cell division was complete around the ten week mark. That means a human being is made after that point. And I never said all cases was like that, but there's no denying that a lot of women do that very thing.

Unless the female in question is at risk, was raped, or under a certain time frame, she has no legit right to kill a baby for convenience.

Smoking and eating meat only affects one's self, not others. People are free to kill themselves, but life style choices and personal body rights don't include harming others.

Define a lot? If that's what you think then fine but don't consider it fact if you can't back it up.

That's if you take cell division as the point that it's considered life, there are many arguments for when life begins which is my point that it's not as black or white as have an abortion and you're killing a baby. The majority of abortions are made before the 8 week mark, before the time you set and the only abortions made near the maximum of 24 weeks are medical emergencies or if the child is thought to be heavily disabled.

The second line is quite right but that's as it is already, there is a time frame, if you want to argue when that time frame is then fine and yes there should be no right to kill babies for convenience but you've got to consider when they're living humans. If they're doing that under a set period (as the majority are as i said above) then they're not murdering babies making the bottom line irrelevant.

Also don't you think it's better to have abortions be legal than have women chancing unsafe abortions?

I don't know why scientists can't define a near exact time when cells turn in to a human, because they should be able to do that since the tech has advanced so much. So I see we do agree on more than we disagree.

As long as those strict guide lines are adhered to, then yes, abortions should be legal for extreme situations. But if a doctor who performs them notices women that come in year after year to have them for convenience, they should be reported and denied having them. Maybe have their uterus removed so they can have all the sex they want without killing unborn children regularly.

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@Jacanuk said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@Jacanuk said:

@lostrib said:

unfortunately a lot of the radical ********'s don't really want equality, they just want to bring men down

I dont agree 100% here but its kinda noteworthy that most of the extreme radical feminist, like this Sam, Leigh and many others are actually born as men. So i think its is more that they have some personal issues which they let out and at the same time like with people who find religion later in life think they have something extra to prove. So they get extra extreme in their feminist views.

Is it proven they are transgender?

What do you mean proven? its not exactly a fact they hide. And there is nothing wrong with it.

But it´s also not a factor you can disregard when you hear their very radical opinions around men and women.

Like I haven't seen evidence of it. Carolyn petit is very open about it. Where as AS is the next one I know where Allen and Leigh have been recently popping up in my daily browsing.

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@Jacanuk said:

@Bigboi500 said:

Actually I'm as liberal as they come, I just don't like seeing unprotected children murdered with out cause. Maybe I understand a lot more than you do about how the real world works. Maybe I don't think people should play victims and ask for handouts.

Could be you're privileged and sheltered from it, or too young to understand what really goes on out there. Stop making excuses for people and letting irresponsible ones hide behind them, and live by a code of personal responsibility. Your grandchildren will be very appreciative for it, if they're not terminated over a minor inconvenience, that is. Good luck.

As to the first part did you run out of arguments? because that is a very weak argument, also its funny that you call yourself Liberal but also have some very conservative views.

But i agree with Bread, its a womans body and they have every right to decide over it.

No, just firing back at being called a "conservative weirdo" which I see he edited out at the last second. Most people in the real world have both liberal and conservative views from personal experience and who can think for themselves, unless they're empty cups that are filled by political tv propaganda.

We all have different political views, but that doesn't make them right or factual. And just because something is legal, it doesn't make it right or give it true validation. Same goes for some things that are illegal, but not wrong.

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@Bigboi500 said:

@hoosier7 said:

@Bigboi500 said:

@hoosier7 said:

@Bigboi500 said:

@Bread_or_Decide: That's true, but nobody should be allowed to kill a child over an inconvenience. It's not like having a tooth ache and getting it pulled. We're talking about a living, breathing thing here. People shouldn't use abortions as a casual practice again and again because of some irresponsible life style. That's immoral no matter how you view it. If a woman doesn't want a child, she should give it up for adoption because there are plenty of people that would love it vs having it destroyed in the womb.

I think you're very naive to think that abortion cases are all because of irresponsible people and i don't get why you paint everyone under one brush. It's like saying all criminals are morally corrupt rapists and murders. I don't think you understand what people actually go through since you think abortions are "casual" choices and you've picked the minority of cases to form an opinion around.

Also you got the breathing bit wrong, a collection of cells aren't breathing and are only as alive as the cells in your hands and feet. By all means you can have your own point of view on when life begins but i don't thinks it's right that you brand people as baby murderers.

My professor said the cell division was complete around the ten week mark. That means a human being is made after that point. And I never said all cases was like that, but there's no denying that a lot of women do that very thing.

Unless the female in question is at risk, was raped, or under a certain time frame, she has no legit right to kill a baby for convenience.

Smoking and eating meat only affects one's self, not others. People are free to kill themselves, but life style choices and personal body rights don't include harming others.

Define a lot? If that's what you think then fine but don't consider it fact if you can't back it up.

That's if you take cell division as the point that it's considered life, there are many arguments for when life begins which is my point that it's not as black or white as have an abortion and you're killing a baby. The majority of abortions are made before the 8 week mark, before the time you set and the only abortions made near the maximum of 24 weeks are medical emergencies or if the child is thought to be heavily disabled.

The second line is quite right but that's as it is already, there is a time frame, if you want to argue when that time frame is then fine and yes there should be no right to kill babies for convenience but you've got to consider when they're living humans. If they're doing that under a set period (as the majority are as i said above) then they're not murdering babies making the bottom line irrelevant.

Also don't you think it's better to have abortions be legal than have women chancing unsafe abortions?

I don't know why scientists can't define a near exact time when cells turn in to a human, because they should be able to do that since the tech has advanced so much. So I see we do agree on more than we disagree.

As long as those strict guide lines are adhered to, then yes, abortions should be legal for extreme situations. But if a doctor who performs them notices women that come in year after year to have them for convenience, they should be reported and denied having them. Maybe have their uterus removed so they can have all the sex they want without killing unborn children regularly.

Does this scenario exist? Do you know someone personally? You realize the most extreme example is not the best one to use to make your point. I'm sure the AVERAGE abortion is done once or twice at the most and I don't think anyone happily walks into an abortion clinic. It's a tough decision for all involved. And no doctors should not make those decisions. Nor should you. Nor should anyone but the person who is pregnant.

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@hoosier7 said:

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@Bread_or_Decide: That's true, but nobody should be allowed to kill a child over an inconvenience. It's not like having a tooth ache and getting it pulled. We're talking about a living, breathing thing here. People shouldn't use abortions as a casual practice again and again because of some irresponsible life style. That's immoral no matter how you view it. If a woman doesn't want a child, she should give it up for adoption because there are plenty of people that would love it vs having it destroyed in the womb.

I think you're very naive to think that abortion cases are all because of irresponsible people and i don't get why you paint everyone under one brush. It's like saying all criminals are morally corrupt rapists and murders. I don't think you understand what people actually go through since you think abortions are "casual" choices and you've picked the minority of cases to form an opinion around.

Also you got the breathing bit wrong, a collection of cells aren't breathing and are only as alive as the cells in your hands and feet. By all means you can have your own point of view on when life begins but i don't thinks it's right that you brand people as baby murderers.

My professor said the cell division was complete around the ten week mark. That means a human being is made after that point. And I never said all cases was like that, but there's no denying that a lot of women do that very thing.

Unless the female in question is at risk, was raped, or under a certain time frame, she has no legit right to kill a baby for convenience.

Smoking and eating meat only affects one's self, not others. People are free to kill themselves, but life style choices and personal body rights don't include harming others.

Define a lot? If that's what you think then fine but don't consider it fact if you can't back it up.

That's if you take cell division as the point that it's considered life, there are many arguments for when life begins which is my point that it's not as black or white as have an abortion and you're killing a baby. The majority of abortions are made before the 8 week mark, before the time you set and the only abortions made near the maximum of 24 weeks are medical emergencies or if the child is thought to be heavily disabled.

The second line is quite right but that's as it is already, there is a time frame, if you want to argue when that time frame is then fine and yes there should be no right to kill babies for convenience but you've got to consider when they're living humans. If they're doing that under a set period (as the majority are as i said above) then they're not murdering babies making the bottom line irrelevant.

Also don't you think it's better to have abortions be legal than have women chancing unsafe abortions?

I don't know why scientists can't define a near exact time when cells turn in to a human, because they should be able to do that since the tech has advanced so much. So I see we do agree on more than we disagree.

As long as those strict guide lines are adhered to, then yes, abortions should be legal for extreme situations. But if a doctor who performs them notices women that come in year after year to have them for convenience, they should be reported and denied having them. Maybe have their uterus removed so they can have all the sex they want without killing unborn children regularly.

It's because there's that many different characteristics to life so it's more about picking one than being able to test it using technology, that's what makes the whole thing a grey area as it's down to each individual's own stance.

Removing their uterus is a bit far but i get that something should be done to prevent abuse.

Are you sure you're liberal though, you remind me of a tory! :P

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@hoosier7 said:

@Bigboi500 said:

I don't know why scientists can't define a near exact time when cells turn in to a human, because they should be able to do that since the tech has advanced so much. So I see we do agree on more than we disagree.

As long as those strict guide lines are adhered to, then yes, abortions should be legal for extreme situations. But if a doctor who performs them notices women that come in year after year to have them for convenience, they should be reported and denied having them. Maybe have their uterus removed so they can have all the sex they want without killing unborn children regularly.

It's because there's that many different characteristics to life so it's more about picking one than being able to test it using technology, that's what makes the whole thing a grey area as it's down to each individual's own stance.

Removing their uterus is a bit far but i get that something should be done to prevent abuse.

Are you sure you're liberal though, you remind me of a tory! :P

Quite the liberal. I think legal drinking age should be 18 since people can go die for their country at that age. I think consent should be at 16 instead of 18. I think rich people and corporations should be forced to give back to the community and pay higher taxes. Rich people have a responsibility to their country. I think marijuana should be legalized everywhere for recreational use, while making other illegal drug laws much heavier.

And that's just the start. :P

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lol, feminists.

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#139 Masculus
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Eh, it seens to me that these tiny outrages on twitter are good vehicles for self promotion. The woman is just adding to her curriculum. Sad that people waste time with this sort of shit.

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@MBirdy88: stupidest things I've read in a while. You should clearly have a say, but you shouldn't be allowed to tell a woman what to do with her body. You're not the one that has to carry the kid for 9 months.

If you got her pregnant man up and be a father. If you did and you want it and she doesn't have that conversation with her, but the ball is essentially always in her court because you don't have to have that baby in your uterus for 9 months.

Calls me stupid.... thinks men shouldn't have a say because a child is just for 9 months apparently. not for life.

There are numerous benefits to the male pill... infact, identical benefits to that of the female pill. infact, it helps take the burden off woman in that instance.

But the feminists believe this should not be allowed.... gee let me think of a time where woman were not allowed to have their newly developed pill because "it will be used for evil" ... I wonder what sexists generations controlled that decision for them? oh ... you don't see the massive double standard on the wall?

Only one sex can carry a child, both have to raise it for life. get your head out of the vagina.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:

@Bigboi500 said:
@sHaDyCuBe321 said:

@MBirdy88: stupidest things I've read in a while. You should clearly have a say, but you shouldn't be allowed to tell a woman what to do with their bodies. You're not the one that has to carry the kid for 9 months.

If you got her pregnant man up and be a father. If you did and you want it and she doesn't have that conversation with her, but the ball is essentially always in her court because you don't have to have that baby in your uterus for 9 months.

Unless she was raped, isn't it as much her fault as any guys for spreading her legs? Don't you find it disgusting that they kill babies as a form of birth control regularly, instead of doing it out of necessity like danger to the female with child or rape?

What gives women the right to destroy life in such a casual way on a casual basis? What I mean is, do you think it's perfectly acceptable for a woman to sleep around and have abortions regularly if she so chooses? Don't you think that's kind of wrong?

Isn't it her FAULT? Why must it be a FAULT? It can be a mistake, mistakes happen. Guys and girls sleep together without protection all the time. Killing babies isn't a form of birth control. It's an honest solution for people who are not ready nor do not want kids.

What gives a woman the right? What gives you the right to tell her what she can or cannot do in her life? But as long as you're controlling other peoples lives what should I have for dinner?

Right and wrong is not for you to decide. I hate smoking but I'm not gonna take the cigarette out of peoples mouths. My girlfriend is a vegetarian but she can't take meat off my plate. Right and wrong is a personal decision. Not for those in power or for you to decide.

and yet men were denied that personal decision when feminists decided that the male pill was somehow "wrong in the hands of men" ... even though BOTH should want a child before a child is conceived.. NOT just the woman... its absolute hypocrisy at its finest... I don't expect any different... you still can't physically defend yourself against a woman without both sexes jumping on you, you dont have equal rights to children oh the list could go on and on.

Woman have plenty of advantages in the first world countries... yet never get brought up by femanists like her. I don't even know of any good figures for femanism as a casual observer.... only the negative ones... maybe they are louder.

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@Animal-Mother said:

@Jacanuk said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@Jacanuk said:

@lostrib said:

unfortunately a lot of the radical ********'s don't really want equality, they just want to bring men down

I dont agree 100% here but its kinda noteworthy that most of the extreme radical feminist, like this Sam, Leigh and many others are actually born as men. So i think its is more that they have some personal issues which they let out and at the same time like with people who find religion later in life think they have something extra to prove. So they get extra extreme in their feminist views.

Is it proven they are transgender?

What do you mean proven? its not exactly a fact they hide. And there is nothing wrong with it.

But it´s also not a factor you can disregard when you hear their very radical opinions around men and women.

Like I haven't seen evidence of it. Carolyn petit is very open about it. Where as AS is the next one I know where Allen and Leigh have been recently popping up in my daily browsing.

Hmm, Sam doesn't hide it either and Leigh has been very active in the transgendered community. But i don't follow Leigh so its very possible that she is just active because she as a wbw support the cause. also opposite Sam and Caro i haven't seen Leigh actually confirm it.

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I just have to wonder why this current gaming feminism surge is so rabid and stupid.

Quite frankly a more moderate and thought-out approach would do much better. Gaming has been making strides towards better equality for a while now. It is wholly undeserving of the insanity of some of these gaming feminists who treat developers as if they are the devil because holy shit a hostage was female!

IDK, I keep getting the feeling that the feminism movement as a whole needs a serious overhaul. I am sure there are plenty sane feminists out there who are making those good arguments and picking the good fights, but I'll be damned if I have ever seen them. All I get is a barrage of insanity from these psychos who are less for equality and more for essentially exterminating men or at least taking away any sort of power men have.

I have to wonder what the hell happened to such people seeing as I have had female friends with a history of rape by a man who harbor no such crazy views as those psychotic misandrists. In going through what I feel must be one of the worst experiences one can have, they are still WAY more level-headed than people like the woman this topic is about. I really have no idea where a person would get such a mentality, but then again I guess I wouldn't understand the KKK any better either. Feminizi is a VERY accurate label for people such as the one this topic is about.

I agree with an earlier poster who said that we need a new label for the sane feminists. The real fight needs not to be about taking power from the men, but giving women the same powers us men have. The ideal point would be to get to a place in society where gender and race have no bearing in anything besides maybe love (there really is no way to make gender not mean anything when it comes to relationships). They should just be physical traits of a person and nothing more. Everyone should be judged on their own ability.

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@Desmonic said:

This topic man. That u-turn.

Are u surprised as I am? :P

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@Bigboi500 said:

@Jacanuk said:

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Actually I'm as liberal as they come, I just don't like seeing unprotected children murdered with out cause. Maybe I understand a lot more than you do about how the real world works. Maybe I don't think people should play victims and ask for handouts.

Could be you're privileged and sheltered from it, or too young to understand what really goes on out there. Stop making excuses for people and letting irresponsible ones hide behind them, and live by a code of personal responsibility. Your grandchildren will be very appreciative for it, if they're not terminated over a minor inconvenience, that is. Good luck.

As to the first part did you run out of arguments? because that is a very weak argument, also its funny that you call yourself Liberal but also have some very conservative views.

But i agree with Bread, its a womans body and they have every right to decide over it.

No, just firing back at being called a "conservative weirdo" which I see he edited out at the last second. Most people in the real world have both liberal and conservative views from personal experience and who can think for themselves, unless they're empty cups that are filled by political tv propaganda.

We all have different political views, but that doesn't make them right or factual. And just because something is legal, it doesn't make it right or give it true validation. Same goes for some things that are illegal, but not wrong.

Ok, i didn´t see the other guys comments. But if its the case i understand why you fired back.

Also you are right that most are not just Liberal or Conservative exclusive, unless you work for Fox or is Glenn Beck, but its not often you hear a liberal go against the more fundamental liberal ideas like "personal freedom" and womens right to choose so i am a bit surprised.

And no of course no political view is correct, its all subjective and here i could take a potshot at liberals but that is directed more towards the US liberals.

But can i ask what Liberal you are? is it european liberal or American liberal because they don't have the exact same meaning.

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#147  Edited By Bigboi500
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@Seabas989 said:

@Desmonic said:

This topic man. That u-turn.

Are u surprised as I am? :P

My public speech teacher always told us to never discuss these two things in a public arena: abortion and politics. They get people's passions burning too brightly which causes static.

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@Jacanuk said:

Ok, i didn´t see the other guys comments. But if its the case i understand why you fired back.

Also you are right that most are not just Liberal or Conservative exclusive, unless you work for Fox or is Glenn Beck, but its not often you hear a liberal go against the more fundamental liberal ideas like "personal freedom" and womens right to choose so i am a bit surprised.

And no of course no political view is correct, its all subjective and here i could take a potshot at liberals but that is directed more towards the US liberals.

But can i ask what Liberal you are? is it european liberal or American liberal because they don't have the exact same meaning.

American liberal. Raised in the southeast US where conservatives rule the roost. That's probably why I don't have both feet firmly planted in one camp.

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#149 Animal-Mother
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Holee Shit....

Written by none other than samantha allen....

"There are plenty of spaces where my partner and I wouldn’t feel safe expressing affection for each other in public. But, when we’re in a metropolitan area on either coast, we strategically use our public displays of affection to acclimate straight people’s babies to the idea of two grown-up women being romantically involved with each other. “Look, mommy! Those two girls just kissed.”

I'm sorry, i'm accepting of everyone but assholes. But this is just so poignant as a deep seeded issue and or very high levels of insecurity.

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#150  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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Is she pissed she didn't get hired or something?

What a baby.

Also this ranting is just pissing whatever journalistic career she has left right down the drain. What a fucking dumb ass.