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#51 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] because its excellent game now u will play killzone 4 which is same generic done to death shooter. clyde46


Killzone 4 will be more open than Metro and a 1000x better LOL

Metro is linear as hell, it's short as hell, it's cinematic as hell, has no multiplayer, has a terrible story, bad voice acting, and the graphics aren't great at all, if you look at the horrible character design for instance

citation required.

Careful, if you ask him for proof of an argument in one thread he'll make a new sulk thread and I'll have to lock it. :P
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Rockstar are primarily a consolite developer? Balls I didn't realise I'd been playing their games on my PC since the 90's :roll:clyde46

Where is RDR? And most of their games you get them later on than consoles. They're mainly a console developer and only then a PC developer, at least currently

R* started out on PC and we've been over why RDR did not come to PC so many times its not funny any more.

So fvckin what if they started on PC? They are basicaly a main console developer now. And exactly why didnt RDR turn up on PC? never knew why

Even if there is a legit reason for that that still doesnt deny the fact most of their games since GTA III only go PC like half a year after they're released on consoles. If you think thats being as much as PC developer as console developer you're just being delusional

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Killzone 4 will be more open than Metro and a 1000x better LOL

Metro is linear as hell, it's short as hell, it's cinematic as hell, has no multiplayer, has a terrible story, bad voice acting, and the graphics aren't great at all, if you look at the horrible character design for instance

blue_hazy_basic

citation required.

Careful, if you ask him for proof of an argument in one thread he'll make a new sulk thread and I'll have to lock it. :P


Poor damage control, you only lock my threads because you are one sensitive PC gamer that can't handle legitimate critism, I told you if you would open those threads I would debate you, however you didn't because you fear the consequences

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"] Games with turn-based combat are superior, imo. It takes the twitch-based skill out of the game completely and forces you to rely on strategy.clyde46
You realise that real strategy comes with being able to adapt to unfolding events rather than being able to sit back and take your time? You think the great military leaders of history were able to sit back and say "Hold on hold on, its my turn and I want to think about this!" Just because things are real time doesn't make them "twitch based" in terms of skill.

The whole premise of a JRPG is the turn based strats, when they changed up the combat in FF13, it did not give you enough time to plan your moves and attacks because it was "real time" so it ended up being a button mash.

Didn´t Final Fantasy 3-6 have a time limit as well ?  I remember playing them in dynamic way. Still not challenging because it´s very similar to WoW combat. It was about learning winnning spell/ability rotations and spaming them. Then you just had to drink mana restoration potions between combats. Although it was good becase there were any better RPGs on SNES.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Rockstar are primarily a consolite developer? Balls I didn't realise I'd been playing their games on my PC since the 90's :roll:blue_hazy_basic

Where is RDR? And most of their games you get them later on than consoles. They're mainly a console developer and only then a PC developer, at least currently

No, they've only done a couple of games for consoles that haven't come to PC. They're a multi-platform developer.

Oh, so you're telling me timed exclusivity doesnt matter now? Dont be delusional

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Killzone 4 will be more open than Metro and a 1000x better LOL

Metro is linear as hell, it's short as hell, it's cinematic as hell, has no multiplayer, has a terrible story, bad voice acting, and the graphics aren't great at all, if you look at the horrible character design for instanceSNIPER4321
citation required.

i really cant take this troll serious. he is like broken record

You have so much in common.
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Vatusus"]

Where is RDR? And most of their games you get them later on than consoles. They're mainly a console developer and only then a PC developer, at least currently

Vatusus

No, they've only done a couple of games for consoles that haven't come to PC. They're a multi-platform developer.

Oh, so you're telling me timed exclusivity doesnt matter now? Dont be delusional

Whats timed exclusive?
EDIT and looking at your sig I'm guessing your a PS gamer, and timed exclusives certainly have never mattered to cows in the past :P 

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Killzone 4 will be more open than Metro and a 1000x better LOL

Metro is linear as hell, it's short as hell, it's cinematic as hell, has no multiplayer, has a terrible story, bad voice acting, and the graphics aren't great at all, if you look at the horrible character design for instance

SNIPER4321

citation required.

i really cant take this troll serious. he is like broken record


I'm stating facts and it's funny you chose to ignore them, I have finished Metro Last light, you can see it on my steam profile

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#60 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="clyde46"] citation required. Davekeeh

i really cant take this troll serious. he is like broken record


I'm stating facts and it's funny you chose to ignore them, I have finished Metro Last light, you can see it on my steam profile

What facts are you stating on Killzone 4.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] No, they've only done a couple of games for consoles that haven't come to PC. They're a multi-platform developer.blue_hazy_basic

Oh, so you're telling me timed exclusivity doesnt matter now? Dont be delusional

Whats timed exclusive?

Being exclusive to a platform(s) for a period of time. And in Rockstars case its usually not a small amount of time but full fledged MONTHS thats can even take to a full year

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#63 PurpleMan5000
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[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"][QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Actually it was new FF15's combat what made me notice the title. JRPGs, gameplay-wise, are stagnat and bland. Great story telling, but aweful undinamic gameplay. This is why you will never find any JRPG at top ten of Metacritic or other ranking web sites. First places are always occupied by western rpgs such as Fallout or Baldurs Gate that have more dynamic tactical combat systems. I hope new FF15's combat will change that. 

blue_hazy_basic
Games with turn-based combat are superior, imo. It takes the twitch-based skill out of the game completely and forces you to rely on strategy.

You realise that real strategy comes with being able to adapt to unfolding events rather than being able to sit back and take your time? You think the great military leaders of history were able to sit back and say "Hold on hold on, its my turn and I want to think about this!" Just because things are real time doesn't make them "twitch based" in terms of skill.

True, but there are a lot of ways to really cheat the system in a WRPG when you get into an encounter that your really have no business being in. I haven't played one that had what I would consider good AI. Some real time games are much better than others, and the same is true for some turn based games. There really isn't a broad black line. It's a gray area. At their best, though, I prefer turn based combat in RPGs to real time. I just like the strategy involved with thinking about movement range, terrain, where to place units so the weak characters are protected by the strong, etc. You can't tell me that there is more strategy involved in a game like Mass Effect or Skyrim than there is in games like Fire Emblem or Dragon Age Origins.
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] i really cant take this troll serious. he is like broken recordBebi_vegeta


I'm stating facts and it's funny you chose to ignore them, I have finished Metro Last light, you can see it on my steam profile

What facts are you stating on Killzone 4.


That it's more open than Metro Last Light's linear gameplay, which it is.

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Vatusus"]

Where is RDR? And most of their games you get them later on than consoles. They're mainly a console developer and only then a PC developer, at least currently

Vatusus

R* started out on PC and we've been over why RDR did not come to PC so many times its not funny any more.

So fvckin what if they started on PC? They are basicaly a console developer now. And exactly why didnt RDR turn up on PC? never knew why

Even if there is a legit reason for that that still doesnt deny the fact most of their games since GTA III only go PC like half a year after they're released on consoles. If you think thats being as much as PC developer as console developer thats just being delusional

They make PC AND console games, ergo they are a multi platform developer. Doesn't matter if the games come out at different times. The reason or part of the reason that RDR didn't come to PC was the studio that made it has or had no experience with PC development. I've heard rumours that there was a planned PC version but it got scraped because of financial reasons and internal politics. R* SD was all over the place and they were lucky to even get the consoles version done IIRC.
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
I'm stating facts and it's funny you chose to ignore them, I have finished Metro Last light, you can see it on my steam profile

Davekeeh

What facts are you stating on Killzone 4.


That it's more open than Metro Last Light's linear gameplay

Because open world = 1000x times better.

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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"] I have finished Metro Last light,SNIPER4321
metro games are only played on PC and not on console. because games are broken on consoles


I played it on PC and it was horrible

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Vatusus"]

Oh, so you're telling me timed exclusivity doesnt matter now? Dont be delusional

Vatusus

Whats timed exclusive?

Being exclusive to a platform(s) for a period of time. And in Rockstars case its usually not a small amount of time but full fledged MONTHS thats can even take to a full year

I meant what games are timed exclusives? (ie on only 1 platform)
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[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] No, they've only done a couple of games for consoles that haven't come to PC. They're a multi-platform developer.blue_hazy_basic

Oh, so you're telling me timed exclusivity doesnt matter now? Dont be delusional

Whats timed exclusive?
EDIT and looking at your sig I'm guessing your a PS gamer, and timed exclusives certainly have never mattered to cows in the past :P 

I play aswell on PC

And of course they mattered. Who doesnt want to have good games at the same time as others? Definitely isnt as bad as a permanent exlusive but its still an annoyance

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="clyde46"] citation required. Davekeeh

Careful, if you ask him for proof of an argument in one thread he'll make a new sulk thread and I'll have to lock it. :P


Poor damage control, you only lock my threads because you are one sensitive PC gamer that can't handle legitimate critism, I told you if you would open those threads I would debate you, however you didn't because you fear the consequences

Its not legitimate criticism when a lot of what you post is anecdotal evidence at the best of times.
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Dammit, enough petitions already
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] metro games are only played on PC and not on console. because games are broken on consolesSNIPER4321


I played it on PC and it was horrible

I saw a fish with fifteen legs yesterday.


Check my steam profile? LOL It's called Davekeeh go see for yourself

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#75 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

What facts are you stating on Killzone 4.

SNIPER4321


That it's more open than Metro Last Light's linear gameplay, which it is.

but it will focus noob freindly MP instead of proper SP so Metro wins case close


Metro wins? LOL Sorry, Metro is easily one of the worst games I've ever played

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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
I played it on PC and it was horrible

Davekeeh

I saw a fish with fifteen legs yesterday.


Check my steam profile? LOL It's called Davekeeh go see for yourself

Stop wasting your breadth. It's hardcore SNIPER you're arguing against
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
That it's more open than Metro Last Light's linear gameplay, which it is.

Davekeeh

but it will focus noob freindly MP instead of proper SP so Metro wins case close


Metro wins? LOL Sorry, Metro is easily one of the worst games I've ever played

Opinions =/= facts.
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Whats timed exclusive?blue_hazy_basic

Being exclusive to a platform(s) for a period of time. And in Rockstars case its usually not a small amount of time but full fledged MONTHS thats can even take to a full year

I meant what games are timed exclusives? (ie on only 1 platform)

Ninja Gaiden 2 for example. Mass Effect 1 first released on the 360 only is another example. I could name others but I'm just too lazy. What is your point with this exactly? If theres one I mean... oh, next you're gonna tell me theres no such thing as console timed exclusives, is that it? so predictable

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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] but it will focus noob freindly MP instead of proper SP so Metro wins case closeclyde46


Metro wins? LOL Sorry, Metro is easily one of the worst games I've ever played

Opinions =/= facts.


Well it only scored an 82 on Metacritic, Killzone Shadow Fall will easily score higher

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signing your name on something = begging?

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[QUOTE="khoofia_pika"]Dammit, enough petitions already SNIPER4321
it so mainstream. u must be all over it.

Lol, go away
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[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"] I have finished Metro Last light,Davekeeh

metro games are only played on PC and not on console. because games are broken on consoles


I played it on PC and it was horrible

Lets play youtube video don´t count :P

It´s actually 8.9 on user metacritic. Almost equal to 9 of The Last of Us :P

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the 'Master Race' sure likes to beg a lot

blue_hazy_basic

Wrong, they are begging the master race! :lol: Oh consolite developers you crave our approval!

Then why so many petitions? :P

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Metro wins? LOL Sorry, Metro is easily one of the worst games I've ever played

Davekeeh

Opinions =/= facts.


Well it only scored an 82 on Metacritic, Killzone Shadow Fall will easily score higher

This is not Metacritic, and crystal ball much.

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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] metro games are only played on PC and not on console. because games are broken on consolesjhonMalcovich


I played it on PC and it was horrible

Lets play youtube video don´t count.


Poor Hermits, I already told you to check my steam profile, stop making excuses

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[QUOTE="clyde46"] R* started out on PC and we've been over why RDR did not come to PC so many times its not funny any more. clyde46

So fvckin what if they started on PC? They are basicaly a console developer now. And exactly why didnt RDR turn up on PC? never knew why

Even if there is a legit reason for that that still doesnt deny the fact most of their games since GTA III only go PC like half a year after they're released on consoles. If you think thats being as much as PC developer as console developer thats just being delusional

They make PC AND console games, ergo they are a multi platform developer. Doesn't matter if the games come out at different times. The reason or part of the reason that RDR didn't come to PC was the studio that made it has or had no experience with PC development. I've heard rumours that there was a planned PC version but it got scraped because of financial reasons and internal politics. R* SD was all over the place and they were lucky to even get the consoles version done IIRC.

Thats bs and you know it. Timed exclusivity matters. They ARE a multiplat dev, never said they werent. Its still pretty obvious consoles are their main focus rather than PC. Again, if you deny this, you're just being delusional.

And that reason as why RDR never went to PC, especially after the HUGE commercial success it had on console is just bs of the highest grade

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]

the 'Master Race' sure likes to beg a lot

Zaibach

Wrong, they are begging the master race! :lol: Oh consolite developers you crave our approval!

Then why so many petitions? :P

Anyone can make a petition .... remember this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-uTnqYHZ-I
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[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
I played it on PC and it was horrible

Davekeeh

Lets play youtube video don´t count.


Poor Hermits, I already told you to check my steam profile, stop making excuses

Steam profile of your friend doesn´t count :P

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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Lets play youtube video don´t count.

SNIPER4321


Poor Hermits, I already told you to check my steam profile, stop making excuses

cant u link your steam?? why do i have to check??


You don't seem to believe I have played Metro on PC. Also my user name is Davekeeh

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[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"] Games with turn-based combat are superior, imo. It takes the twitch-based skill out of the game completely and forces you to rely on strategy.

You realise that real strategy comes with being able to adapt to unfolding events rather than being able to sit back and take your time? You think the great military leaders of history were able to sit back and say "Hold on hold on, its my turn and I want to think about this!" Just because things are real time doesn't make them "twitch based" in terms of skill.

The whole premise of a JRPG is the turn based strats, when they changed up the combat in FF13, it did not give you enough time to plan your moves and attacks because it was "real time" so it ended up being a button mash.

Much like the previous games when ATB was set to active..
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

Lets play youtube video don´t count.

jhonMalcovich


Poor Hermits, I already told you to check my steam profile, stop making excuses

Steam profile of your friend doesn´t count :P


It's the same as my username here? LOL

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#95 clyde46
Member since 2005 • 49061 Posts

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Vatusus"]

So fvckin what if they started on PC? They are basicaly a console developer now. And exactly why didnt RDR turn up on PC? never knew why

Even if there is a legit reason for that that still doesnt deny the fact most of their games since GTA III only go PC like half a year after they're released on consoles. If you think thats being as much as PC developer as console developer thats just being delusional

Vatusus

They make PC AND console games, ergo they are a multi platform developer. Doesn't matter if the games come out at different times. The reason or part of the reason that RDR didn't come to PC was the studio that made it has or had no experience with PC development. I've heard rumours that there was a planned PC version but it got scraped because of financial reasons and internal politics. R* SD was all over the place and they were lucky to even get the consoles version done IIRC.

Thats bs and you know it. Timed exclusivity matters. They ARE a multiplat dev, never said they werent. Its still pretty obvious consoles are their main focus rather than PC. Again, if you deny this, you're just being delusional.

And that reason as why RDR never went to PC, especially after the HUGE commercial success it had on console is just bs of the highest grade

I never mentioned anything about timed exclusivity. Yes RDR was a huge success for R* but it development wasn't actually trouble free for R* SD.
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#96 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
Member since 2010 • 4019 Posts

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"] cant u link your steam?? why do i have to check??SNIPER4321


You don't seem to believe I have played Metro on PC's. Also my user name is Davekeeh

is not found any steam of this name


http://steamcommunity.com/actions/Search?K=davekeeh&x=0&y=0

There, my god, do you even know how to use steam?

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#97 Badosh
Member since 2011 • 12774 Posts
[QUOTE="SNIPER4321"]Please put that crap away from PC. we dont need it. we dont need JRPG on PC.

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#98 Bebi_vegeta
Member since 2003 • 13558 Posts

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Metro wins? LOL Sorry, Metro is easily one of the worst games I've ever played

Davekeeh

Opinions =/= facts.


Well it only scored an 82 on Metacritic, Killzone Shadow Fall will easily score higher

Obviously AA game is bad...

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#99 robybaggio
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There is a 1,000 better games to play on PC, why would you even bother?
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#100 jhonMalcovich
Member since 2010 • 7090 Posts

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Poor Hermits, I already told you to check my steam profile, stop making excuses

Davekeeh

Steam profile of your friend doesn´t count :P


It's the same as my username here? LOL

Lol. You played Age of Empires® III for 33.4 h

And Napoleon: Total War for 37.4 h.

You are hermit then. You play hermit exclsuives :P

Wait wait. And in your wish list there are Rome 2 Total War and Swapper.:P

And you played Awesomenauts mostly on PC, 270h. Why you didn´t play it on Xbox Live :P

You are so hermit regarding your gaming taste.