Fifa 12 IGN review.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]A rehashed soccer game with new bells and whistles. Reviewer must have been a huge soccer fan from Europe. KC_Hokie

Not shocking.

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]A rehashed soccer game with new bells and whistles. Reviewer must have been a huge soccer fan from Europe. percech

Not shocking.

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]A rehashed soccer game with new bells and whistles. Reviewer must have been a huge soccer fan from Europe. percech

Not shocking.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]A rehashed soccer game with new bells and whistles. Reviewer must have been a huge soccer fan from Europe. percech

Not shocking.

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Just looked it up...reviewer is a UK IGN writer.

Not shocking.

kuraimen

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="percech"] So with that logic, we should let Europeans review Madden.KC_Hokie

"What? A UK IGN writer just gave out the highest score all year to a soccer game." It would be idiotic to let someone who doesn't know much about the sport to review the game. The UK reviewer would be most likely much more critical and it's obvious that he plays football(soccer) games, so it's not like he made general complaints that didn't make sense. Would you rather have someone who don't know a thing about American football to review Madden? You guys assume that sports games can't be highly rated?percech

I'll pick it up later down the line, right now Uncharted 3 is my priority

So long as Real madrid and Chelsea are nerfed, its like the entire chelsea team is on steroid or something

"What? A UK IGN writer just gave out the highest score all year to a soccer game." It would be idiotic to let someone who doesn't know much about the sport to review the game. The UK reviewer would be most likely much more critical and it's obvious that he plays football(soccer) games, so it's not like he made general complaints that didn't make sense. Would you rather have someone who don't know a thing about American football to review Madden? You guys assume that sports games can't be highly rated?percech

Then he gives out the highest score of the year.

[QUOTE="percech"]"What? A UK IGN writer just gave out the highest score all year to a soccer game." It would be idiotic to let someone who doesn't know much about the sport to review the game. The UK reviewer would be most likely much more critical and it's obvious that he plays football(soccer) games, so it's not like he made general complaints that didn't make sense. Would you rather have someone who don't know a thing about American football to review Madden? You guys assume that sports games can't be highly rated?mrmusicman247

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] And japanese people to review shooters. I bet I would agree with them more frequently :Pkuraimen

And like I said above this guy has only ever written a handful of reviews prior to this one. He mainly does podcasts and movie reviews.

[QUOTE="percech"]"What? A UK IGN writer just gave out the highest score all year to a soccer game." It would be idiotic to let someone who doesn't know much about the sport to review the game. The UK reviewer would be most likely much more critical and it's obvious that he plays football(soccer) games, so it's not like he made general complaints that didn't make sense. Would you rather have someone who don't know a thing about American football to review Madden? You guys assume that sports games can't be highly rated?KC_Hokie

Then he gives out the highest score of the year.

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="percech"]"What? A UK IGN writer just gave out the highest score all year to a soccer game." It would be idiotic to let someone who doesn't know much about the sport to review the game. The UK reviewer would be most likely much more critical and it's obvious that he plays football(soccer) games, so it's not like he made general complaints that didn't make sense. Would you rather have someone who don't know a thing about American football to review Madden? You guys assume that sports games can't be highly rated?percech

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="percech"]"What? A UK IGN writer just gave out the highest score all year to a soccer game." It would be idiotic to let someone who doesn't know much about the sport to review the game. The UK reviewer would be most likely much more critical and it's obvious that he plays football(soccer) games, so it's not like he made general complaints that didn't make sense. Would you rather have someone who don't know a thing about American football to review Madden? You guys assume that sports games can't be highly rated?percech

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]No. The equivalent of this would be Gamespot or IGN hiring a Japanese writer from Hardcore-JRPG-fans.com (I made that up) to write a review for a popular upcoming JRPG.

KC_Hokie

And like I said above this guy has only ever written a handful of reviews prior to this one. He mainly does podcasts and movie reviews.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] So every UK person is a hardcore Football fan? :| Why can't any american be a hardcore shooter fan too then?kuraimen

And like I said above this guy has only ever written a handful of reviews prior to this one. He mainly does podcasts and movie reviews.

So I question the credibility of the reviewer and score.

[QUOTE="SaltyMeatballs"]

mrmusicman247

Edit your post quick. That pic is bad.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]He does all the soccer game news for IGN. I just did a Google search.

And like I said above this guy has only ever written a handful of reviews prior to this one. He mainly does podcasts and movie reviews.

KC_Hokie

So I question the credibility of the reviewer and score.

That's ridicolous I bet they where paid by EA. And I am a huge fan of football, fifa just don't make the sport any justice.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]He does all the soccer game news for IGN. I just did a Google search.

And like I said above this guy has only ever written a handful of reviews prior to this one. He mainly does podcasts and movie reviews.

KC_Hokie

So I question the credibility of the reviewer and score.

So you like it that a soccer fan wrote the review for the soccer game...OK, but that's exactly my point on the outcome of the review. The guy has little review history, is obviously a soccer fan based on his posting history, and then gives a soccer game the highest score since Portal 2 and tied for the second highest all year for a console game.

So I question the credibility of the reviewer and score.

KC_Hokie

Yeah, that makes sense, i would question the credibility of the review also if i cared about the review. Though kuraiman has a point, and if that title sucked, it would have ben a low blow for a fan, since people that are accustomed with sports games would know the ins and outs of what makes a good title.

WhatI dont understand is how it can be called FIFA Soccer. It's kind of contradictory.

Fédération Internationale de Football Association(The International Federation of Association Football) - Soccer? Odd title.

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[QUOTE="kuraimen"] I would prefer every review site used fans of a specific genre to review a game. That way jrpgs could actually get some love. On the contrary most western reviewers seem to be shooter fans.kuraimen

So I question the credibility of the reviewer and score.

And it's virtually unheard of for a yearly rehash of an EA sports game to received an entire point higher one year later. A few bells and whistles doesn't warrant an entire point increase.

WhatI dont understand is how it can be called FIFA Soccer. It's kind of contradictory.

Fédération Internationale de Football Association(The International Federation of Association Football) - Soccer? Odd title.

-Snooze-

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Funny they used a Brit to review it. They know all about football except how to play it :lol:! Looks really amazing!mattuk69

I Just played the Demo and loved it...not really a soccer fan but its honestly the only good EA sports game out nowadays...

[QUOTE="Sushiglutton"]Funny they used a Brit to review it. They know all about football except how to play it :lol:! Looks really amazing!mattuk69

Fifa rankings mean nothing due to the seeding and groupings. When was Englands last Tournament victory, even a semi final? Barcelona dominate world football, I will give you Man Utd as well. As for the game you have to use the defending in ranked matches i heard on gamespot video preview last week.

[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]So you like it that a soccer fan wrote the review for the soccer game...OK, but that's exactly my point on the outcome of the review. The guy has little review history, is obviously a soccer fan based on his posting history, and then gives a soccer game the highest score since Portal 2 and tied for the second highest all year for a console game.

So I question the credibility of the reviewer and score.

KC_Hokie

And it's virtually unheard of for a yearly rehash of an EA sports game to received an entire point higher one year later. A few bells and whistles doesn't warrant an entire point increase.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"] Well yeah since we have a bunch of shooter fans reviewing shooter games I don't see why not have a Football fan review a Football game, it's only fair. Besides Fifa games have been getting very good reviews overall the last iterations so I don't see the score so strange or misleading.percech

And it's virtually unheard of for a yearly rehash of an EA sports game to received an entire point higher one year later. A few bells and whistles doesn't warrant an entire point increase.

Before you had a problem with a football fan reviewing the game, now you claim that it's because he hasn't reviewed many games. I wonder what your excuse would be if they had a non shooter fan review BF3. It would never be allowed, but it would be interesting to see your reaction.percech

Couldn't be more consistent.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]A rehashed soccer game with new bells and whistles. Reviewer must have been a huge soccer fan from Europe. KC_Hokie

Not shocking.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]A rehashed soccer game with new bells and whistles. Reviewer must have been a huge soccer fan from Europe. percech

Not shocking.

I would apply that standard across all reviewing sites.

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Just looked it up...reviewer is a UK IGN writer.

Not shocking.

KC_Hokie

I would apply that standard across all reviewing sites.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]Here is a history lesson. In Great Britain, the great sport of Football (the one you actually play with your foot) was formed by major influences from sports, other cultures around the world played. In the 1860's, while the sport was starting up in Great Britain, many schools and clubs carried different rules for the sport of football. It was common to give nicknames to these different clubs. Association Football was nicknamed "Soccer" by many of the English. At the same time, another football school created with a different set of rules (in which allowed the use of hands) was starting up. This was later on nicknamed "Rugby" after the name of the school. These nicknames were used to differ the two major schools of Football. Fast forward a few decades and the sport of Football, became very popular in colleges throughout the United States. The form that was the most popular form however, was Rugby. Now since Rugby was the uber popular version of football played in the United States, the term of Football was coined to the sport. In the meantime in the United Kingdom, the different versions of Football started to both become very popular. Rugby became its own name for its sport, while Football was given to the sport that you use your foot. (Fast Forward another few decades) In the United States, the sport of Football (Rugby) became super popular in a societal standpoint. The sport was heavily influenced by the American culture and as such was Americanized.KC_Hokie

Here is a history lesson.

In Great Britain, the great sport of Football (the one you actually play with your foot) was formed by major influences from sports, other cultures around the world played. In the 1860's, while the sport was starting up in Great Britain, many schools and clubs carried different rules for the sport of football. It was common to give nicknames to these different clubs.

Association Football was nicknamed "Soccer" by many of the English. At the same time, another football school created with a different set of rules (in which allowed the use of hands) was starting up. This was later on nicknamed "Rugby" after the name of the school. These nicknames were used to differ the two major schools of Football.

Fast forward a few decades and the sport of Football, became very popular in colleges throughout the United States. The form that was the most popular form however, was Rugby. Now since Rugby was the uber popular version of football played in the United States, the term of Football was coined to the sport.

In the meantime in the United Kingdom, the different versions of Football started to both become very popular. Rugby became its own name for its sport, while Football was given to the sport that you use your foot.

(Fast Forward another few decades) In the United States, the sport of Football (Rugby) became super popular in a societal standpoint. The sport was heavily influenced by the American culture and as such was Americanized.

Blah Blah Blah years pass and the NFL was created.

ShadowDeathX

Some things wrong there. Chiefly, Football was a series of medieval games played throughout the isles. Not from other cultures. There have been similar games in other cultures but football did not take its cue from them. It took it's cue from the football games of the middle ages some of which are insane and still played on the odd occasion today.

Secondly, Association football was invented because the universities each had their own form of football and they were so different that they were prevented from playing each other, so they came up with the "cambridge rules" football which evolved into the one we see today. Early forms actually had handling. One school wanted to preserve its own game. This was the rugby school. They didn't form it around the same time, it existed, they wanted to keep it.

I've no problems with the u.s. calling their own form football, because I understand the history. But I do have a problem with anyone getting funny with me calling the association game football. Aussie rules, gaelic, it's all football, there's precious little point arguing over which ones best because it's often about which one you're brought up with and besides none of them hold a candle to rugby league.

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[QUOTE="percech"] Yeah, very consistent. It's got bias written all over it. Also, what experience do you really need to review games anyway? He's not a robot, he will obviously give his opinion on it, which isn't different than any other review that's ever been. As long as you are a good writer and it's a well written review, there shouldn't be a problem.percech

I would apply that standard across all reviewing sites.

If the same scenario happened with a more popular game and genre a lot more people would care.

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[QUOTE="mattuk69"] England is rank 4th in the world with FIFA and English clubs dominate the world of football so....percech

Which is where we belong until we stop playing players just because they're on the books for manchester city. Gareth Barry has no place in the shirt. We need to stop playing players with big reputations if they don't deliver.

[QUOTE="ShadowDeathX"]

Here is a history lesson.

In Great Britain, the great sport of Football (the one you actually play with your foot) was formed by major influences from sports, other cultures around the world played. In the 1860's, while the sport was starting up in Great Britain, many schools and clubs carried different rules for the sport of football. It was common to give nicknames to these different clubs.

Association Football was nicknamed "Soccer" by many of the English. At the same time, another football school created with a different set of rules (in which allowed the use of hands) was starting up. This was later on nicknamed "Rugby" after the name of the school. These nicknames were used to differ the two major schools of Football.

Fast forward a few decades and the sport of Football, became very popular in colleges throughout the United States. The form that was the most popular form however, was Rugby. Now since Rugby was the uber popular version of football played in the United States, the term of Football was coined to the sport.

In the meantime in the United Kingdom, the different versions of Football started to both become very popular. Rugby became its own name for its sport, while Football was given to the sport that you use your foot.

(Fast Forward another few decades) In the United States, the sport of Football (Rugby) became super popular in a societal standpoint. The sport was heavily influenced by the American culture and as such was Americanized.

Blah Blah Blah years pass and the NFL was created.

Chemical_Viking

Some things wrong there. Chiefly, Football was a series of medieval games played throughout the isles. Not from other cultures. There have been similar games in other cultures but football did not take its cue from them. It took it's cue from the football games of the middle ages some of which are insane and still played on the odd occasion today.

Secondly, Association football was invented because the universities each had their own form of football and they were so different that they were prevented from playing each other, so they came up with the "cambridge rules" football which evolved into the one we see today. Early forms actually had handling. One school wanted to preserve its own game. This was the rugby school. They didn't form it around the same time, it existed, they wanted to keep it.

I've no problems with the u.s. calling their own form football, because I understand the history. But I do have a problem with anyone getting funny with me calling the association game football. Aussie rules, gaelic, it's all football, there's precious little point arguing over which ones best because it's often about which one you're brought up with and besides none of them hold a candle to rugby league.

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Again, I question any reviewer who has only written a handful of reviews or less, is clearly a fan of the genre he is reviewing, and then proceeds to give a game the highest or tied for highest review score of the year.

I would apply that standard across all reviewing sites.

KC_Hokie

If the same scenario happened with a more popular game and genre a lot more people would care.

I fail to see why you care. Or why you cared in another thread mentioning this game before a review was forthcoming? Xenophobia?

[QUOTE="percech"][QUOTE="Sushiglutton"] Wait how can England be ranked 4th :shock:? I wasn't being that serious though. Just that England has failed in the big tournaments for a while now. But I admit they have some very good players. And the clubs are top notch.

Which is where we belong until we stop playing players just because they're on the books for manchester city. Gareth Barry has no place in the shirt. We need to stop playing players with big reputations if they don't deliver.

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[QUOTE="percech"] The game is reaching its peak to perfection. Of course it's gonna have minor gameplay changes. Just like SMG, or Halo, etc. Are you saying if it scored an 8.5 you wouldn't have a problem? Are you really THIS picky about reviewers?Chemical_Viking

If the same scenario happened with a more popular game and genre a lot more people would care.

I fail to see why you care. Or why you cared in another thread mentioning this game before a review was forthcoming? Xenophobia?

[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]An annual soccer game with minor tweaks written by a rookie writer and clear fan of the genre receiving a score equaling the highest given for the year....I would question the credibility of the reviewer.

If the same scenario happened with a more popular game and genre a lot more people would care.

percech

I fail to see why you care. Or why you cared in another thread mentioning this game before a review was forthcoming? Xenophobia?

I have no interest in the game itself just the credibility of the reviwer and score.

I'll pick it up later down the line, right now Uncharted 3 is my priority

So long as Real madrid and Chelsea are nerfed, its like the entire chelsea team is on steroid or something

Zaibach

I hear there is an achievement called "Score a Goal with Fernando Torres"

:lol: ......:( ...... :cry:

[QUOTE="megaspiderweb09"]

Can people actually call it football for once please. Also im not totally sold on the new FIFA,i seem content with the previous edition,duno if defending is worth £40

TH1Sx1SxSPARTA

I'm American and i call it football out of respect and i'm a die hard fan of a particular NFL team. Europeans/ world know what american football is. So we should be respectful when talking about their football.

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

I'll pick it up later down the line, right now Uncharted 3 is my priority

So long as Real madrid and Chelsea are nerfed, its like the entire chelsea team is on steroid or something

VendettaRed07

I hear there is an achievement called "Score a Goal with Fernando Torres"

:lol: ......:( ...... :cry: