Final Fantasy 13 Is the best RPG of all time.

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#1 Animal-Mother
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I've never played something so well paced and artistically beautiful as FFXIII.

Though the story is a bit weak the battle system makes up for it in every way shape and form.

Consistantly having to shift causes consistent and new strategies through out the whole game.

Also want some challenge do some hunts. THe game has over 65 of them, some of which can equate to a few hours a piece.

So the games got length beauty an incredible battle system.

I mean it's just got everything going for it.

So Lighting I say enjoy your throne as best RPG of all time!

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#2 ShadowriverUB
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Here comes opinion wars ^^

I think game is great but not the best ever

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#3 aaronmullan
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A-M, me and you don't agree alot, but seriously you hit the spot with this one. It is possibly the best RPG I have ever played it definitely is the greatest RPG of all time. GS is just taming it with an 8.5 so people are surprised when they play the brilliance of it.
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#4 nmaharg
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Wrong!

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#5 erdemn
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This is gonna be good.... *gets some popcorn

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#6 Chemical_Viking
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"although the story is a bit weak". Yeah....how can it be the best RPG of all time if the story is a bit weak?

It isn't even close. Not even in the top ten. Worth playing, but not in the top ten.

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#7 mgkennedy5
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Surely you joke?
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needs more "R" with its "PG" :P
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"although the story is a bit weak". Yeah....how can it be the best RPG of all time if the story is a bit weak?

It isn't even close. Not even in the top ten. Worth playing, but not in the top ten.

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The story doesn't need to be good. It's a Role Playing Game so you make up the story yourself. YOU ARE LIGHTNING.
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#10 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

"although the story is a bit weak". Yeah....how can it be the best RPG of all time if the story is a bit weak?

It isn't even close. Not even in the top ten. Worth playing, but not in the top ten.

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The story doesn't need to be good. It's a Role Playing Game so you make up the story yourself. YOU ARE LIGHTNING.

The story has no true protagonist. Another huge flaw imo.
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#11 Wiishy
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Two word: Mass Effect

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#12 aaronmullan
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Two word: Mass Effect

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Two more words: Final Fantasy.
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#13 Salt_The_Fries
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needs more "R" with its "PG" :Pblue_hazy_basic
Lol, good one :P
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#14 Chemical_Viking
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[QUOTE="Chemical_Viking"]

"although the story is a bit weak". Yeah....how can it be the best RPG of all time if the story is a bit weak?

It isn't even close. Not even in the top ten. Worth playing, but not in the top ten.

aaronmullan

The story doesn't need to be good. It's a Role Playing Game so you make up the story yourself. YOU ARE LIGHTNING.

That's so wrong I don't even know where to begin.

First off, in some RPGs, there is such a great scope that you can make up your own story, but on this one, it's so linear and story driven that cannot be the case. The story is all that is driving it, you aren't Lightning any more than you are Roger Federer when you're playing on a tennis game. You don't make the story up, it's laid out for you with one path to take to watch it. So it has to be good on this game and a weak story means it cannot be the best ever.

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#15 nmaharg
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Two word: Mass Effect

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goes to xenogears or chrono trigger imo.
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[QUOTE="Wiishy"]

Two word: Mass Effect

nmaharg
goes to xenogears or chrono trigger imo.

Personally would take Planescape or Vampires over those two :P
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#17 SaltyMeatballs
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You mean Dragon Quest 9, right?
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#18 h575309
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Its probably the best piece of entertainment in the whole wide world bar none exclusively on a videogame console.

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#19 Wiishy
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Fine, seven words: The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time

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#20 nmaharg
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[QUOTE="nmaharg"][QUOTE="Wiishy"]

Two word: Mass Effect

_Pedro_

goes to xenogears or chrono trigger imo.

Personally would take Planescape or Vampires over those two :P

Yeah add FF tactics to my list ass well. Planescape was dope as hell though.

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Its probably the best piece of entertainment in the whole wide world bar none exclusively on a videogame console.

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This comment is win.
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#22 SaltyMeatballs
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Fine, seven words: The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time

Wiishy
That's not allowed to be RPG otherwise it will pwn all of them.
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#23 Lethalhazard
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Not even the best FF IMO! My favorite is still XII ^_^.
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#24 nmaharg
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Not even the best FF IMO! My favorite is still XII ^_^.Lethalhazard
Gambit system was tough. I liked 12.
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I've never played something so well paced and artistically beautiful as FFXIII.

Though the story is a bit weak the battle system makes up for it in every way shape and form.

Consistantly having to shift causes consistent and new strategies through out the whole game.

Also want some challenge do some hunts. THe game has over 65 of them, some of which can equate to a few hours a piece.

So the games got length beauty an incredible battle system.

I mean it's just got everything going for it.

So Lighting I say enjoy your throne as best RPG of all time!

Animal-Mother

FF13 is good, but from what I've played so far is not even in the top 5 FFs of all time, let alone the best RPG of all time. As for challenge? What? In a game where you auto-heal after every battle, healing items don't use a turn to use and hit the whole party, save points are encountered every 5 feet, and if you SOMEHOW manage to wipe, you can retry the battle, no save needed. Give me the old school FFs where you don't just need to be able to survive one fight, you need to be able to make it through a whole dungeon full of enemies. FF13 is nowhere near the worst FF, but it is most certainly not the best, either.

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#26 princeofshapeir
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To me, it's still not better than the best in the FF series, Final Fantasy 8.
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#27 jg4xchamp
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Not a big fan of the Boston Marathon XIII but its a good game overall. Not really the G.O.A.T
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#28 Animal-Mother
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Fine, seven words: The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time

Wiishy
Not an RPG
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Not a big fan of the Boston Marathon XIII but its a good game overall. Not really the G.O.A.T

I think you're just hiding it, champ. C'mon you know this is the best game ever.
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#30 moistsandwich
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Anyone who thinks FFXIII is the best RPG of all time, tells me, they've played very few RPG's.... probably 2 of them, FFX-2 & FFXIII.

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#31 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]Not a big fan of the Boston Marathon XIII but its a good game overall. Not really the G.O.A.T

Ohh boo you. If thats the boston marathon then I guess ME2, is the lame shotput part of the olympics :P
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#32 Wiishy
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[QUOTE="Wiishy"]

Fine, seven words: The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time

Animal-Mother

Not an RPG

Categorized as action RPG

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#33 racing1750
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Not even close.
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Wiishy"]

Fine, seven words: The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time

Wiishy

Not an RPG

Categorized as action RPG

"Fantasy Action Adventure"
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Not enough content... that doesnt envolve 5 minute fights over and over again, other than that, its ok.... needed more/better characters than every *** pop steretype thrown into one.
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#36 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Wiishy"]

Fine, seven words: The Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time

Wiishy

Not an RPG

Categorized as action RPG

Can ya show me?
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#37 Animal-Mother
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Not enough content... that doesnt envolve 5 minute fights over and over again, other than that, its ok.... needed more/better characters than every *** pop steretype thrown into one.Birdy09
Did you read abouyt the hunts, 65 of them, that could take a decent amount of time.
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#38 Wiishy
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[QUOTE="Wiishy"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Not an RPGAnimal-Mother

Categorized as action RPG

Can ya show me?

Read the first paragraph

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#39 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Youz trollin!
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#40 CBR600-RR
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What? Sorry son, Dark Cloud 2 is.

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Youz trollin!siLVURcross
Couldn't be more wrong. We are stating the truth here.
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When AM gets bored, all of SW suffers. :(

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#43 h575309
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I mean, at the very least its the best Final Fantasy on HD consoles right? Thats sayin somethin

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#44 Kashiwaba
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Nah far from the best.

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#45 aaronmullan
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I mean, at the very least its the best Final Fantasy on HD consoles right? Thats sayin somethin

h575309
It's the best FF on ANY console.
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#46 Greyfeld
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I just completed FF13 last night, and I have to say that the game was good, but it sits firmly in the middle of the pack, as far as my favorite FF games are concerned. By the time I hit Pulse in chapter 11, I just wanted to hurry up and finish the game. I didn't mind the corridor-like gameplay at first, but after 20 hours or so, it started to wear down on me a bit. Then the ending just screamed "Deus Ex Machina" right in my face, and kinda made me go "... meh." Don't get me wrong, I liked the ending, but how they brought it about seemed very... convenient and contrived. All in all, it's a good game, but I have to say, after playing it all the way through, I thoroughly agree with it not making AAA on Gamespot. Hopefully since the FF team has experience in programming a full scale HD RPG, FF15 will be a little more involving.
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

I've never played something so well paced and artistically beautiful as FFXIII.

Though the story is a bit weak the battle system makes up for it in every way shape and form.

Consistantly having to shift causes consistent and new strategies through out the whole game.

Also want some challenge do some hunts. THe game has over 65 of them, some of which can equate to a few hours a piece.

So the games got length beauty an incredible battle system.

I mean it's just got everything going for it.

So Lighting I say enjoy your throne as best RPG of all time!

ianuilliam

FF13 is good, but from what I've played so far is not even in the top 5 FFs of all time, let alone the best RPG of all time. As for challenge? What? In a game where you auto-heal after every battle, healing items don't use a turn to use and hit the whole party, save points are encountered every 5 feet, and if you SOMEHOW manage to wipe, you can retry the battle, no save needed. Give me the old school FFs where you don't just need to be able to survive one fight, you need to be able to make it through a whole dungeon full of enemies. FF13 is nowhere near the worst FF, but it is most certainly not the best, either.

But the result was that the normal battles were never challenging. By making it about micromanagement, you're really just encouraging grinding because "better" playing doesn't leave you free of the need to heal. The original games were always less challenging because they needed to be to compensate for that "micromanagement" element - which isn't micromanagement at all, it's just buying a bunch of items to survive the fights in a dungeon without any real "managing skills" required. FFXIII fixes this problem by isolating the fight to individual battles, and is able to make them more challenging and engaging because of it.

Thta being said, I don't think it's the best JRPG of all time nor the best FF of all time. But I do think that it has some smart gameplay decisions that the series has needed for some time now.

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#48 Salt_The_Fries
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[QUOTE="h575309"]

I mean, at the very least its the best Final Fantasy on HD consoles right? Thats sayin somethin

aaronmullan
It's the best FF on ANY console.

That's not saying much :lol:!
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I've never played something so well paced and artistically beautiful as FFXIII.

Though the story is a bit weak the battle system makes up for it in every way shape and form.

Consistantly having to shift causes consistent and new strategies through out the whole game.

Also want some challenge do some hunts. THe game has over 65 of them, some of which can equate to a few hours a piece.

So the games got length beauty an incredible battle system.

I mean it's just got everything going for it.

So Lighting I say enjoy your throne as best RPG of all time!

Animal-Mother
Probably not my favourite Final Fantasy but I definitely gotta agree with your points. The story does take a little while to get into, and it's hard to understand sometimes without reading the datalog but it gets great later on. I loved the character development and the strategic battles were great, some boss battles nearly had me tearing my own hair out. Very beautifully designed too, gotta love it.
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#50 110million
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I ran with the "its still awesome!" flag for a long time, and it really is an awesome game, well underrated, but best RPG of all time is really not true, the lack of towns, exploration, the linearity of the first 20 hours, the simplicity of the level up scheme, it all amounts of to lost potential. Ways to fix: Make less areas but make them all maybe 1/4th as big as the chapter 11 map, more secret and hidden items, as well as missions along the way the entire game. Place towns every 2 or 3 areas with additional little quests, why is every mission a hunt? In context, the one which I will not spoil, missions should not just be killing monsters, there should have been other tasks, I enjoy hunts a lot, its just them being a *SPOILERS* Focus *END SPOILERS* means it should be more than hunting. The hunts were much cooler being grabbed out of a tavern too, basically I wish it was FFXII with a new cast and a better story, FFXII did so much right in exploration, scale and combat, FFXIII feels like a step back.