Final Fantasy 13 Is the best RPG of all time.

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#151 DontBeHatin1983
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having played 6-10 and FF X-2 and 12 i have to say 13 is the worst in the series so lets hope FF vs 13 will be good

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#152 dreman999
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You forgot to subtract the 5 from the 13 at the end of Final Fantasy.

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Don't you mean that he forgot to subtract 7 from 13? FF8 was trash.
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#153 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="magiciandude"]

You forgot to subtract the 5 from the 13 at the end of Final Fantasy.

dreman999
Don't you mean that he forgot to subtract 7 from 13? FF8 was trash.

Lol FF8 was a fine game.
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#154 mitu123
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Did people actually take the TC seriously?

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#155 rolo107
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It's the best JRPG this gen, that's for certain.
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#156 Animal-Mother
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Did people actually take the TC seriously?

mitu123
It seems so.
It's the best JRPG this gen, that's for certain. rolo107
And I dunno LO, is pretty darn fun
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#157 dreman999
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="magiciandude"]

You forgot to subtract the 5 from the 13 at the end of Final Fantasy.

Don't you mean that he forgot to subtract 7 from 13? FF8 was trash.

Lol FF8 was a fine game.

FF8 story made no sense at all. The stat system was fine but the idea of making a modern world with magic with nothing explain ruined the game.
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#158 TheRapture
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I love 13, but it's far from the best RPG.
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#159 SilverChimera
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Not the greatest of all time but it's still an excellent game. Loving it so far :)
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#160 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="magiciandude"]

You forgot to subtract the 5 from the 13 at the end of Final Fantasy.

Animal-Mother
Don't you mean that he forgot to subtract 7 from 13? FF8 was trash.

Lol FF8 was a fine game.

Alright, then subtract 4 from 13. Or easier. Add 1 to 8. Your choice :P
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#161 tagyhag
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Did people actually take the TC seriously?

mitu123
I did, AM is known for having horrible taste. :| I kid I kid! :P
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#162 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="dreman999"] Don't you mean that he forgot to subtract 7 from 13? FF8 was trash.

Lol FF8 was a fine game.

Alright, then subtract 4 from 13. Or easier. Add 1 to 8. Your choice :P

lol I'll subtract whatever the hell I want!!!!
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#163 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Did people actually take the TC seriously?

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I did, AM is known for having horrible taste. :| I kid I kid! :P

Well I do like Army of Doo, And Star ocean, ohh and there's Timeshift.
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#164 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Lol FF8 was a fine game.

Alright, then subtract 4 from 13. Or easier. Add 1 to 8. Your choice :P

lol I'll subtract whatever the hell I want!!!!

Do whatever it takes to get to the number "9". And put 2 'F's in front and you have the best FF game.
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[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]I would call this game a action strategy game since it striped almost all of it s rpg elements.

foxhound_fox


I'd say more like cinematic action-adventure, given the linearity of this game compared to actual strategic/tactical RPG's. I'm not sure why it is even cIassed as a "RPG" anymore... the FF series and a lot of JRPG's in general have never really captured the essence of role-playing, just fighting battles and level grinding.

What I find most odd about the TC's claim is that the game has been out a few weeks and already he is claiming it to be the best at something which it really even isn't. It's like saying Fifa 10 is the best first-person shooter.

~~~

^^^ @mythrol: I think the Destructoid review covers that exact same point, which is what is having me question the TC's logic somewhat. It would suggest that every other game in existence is the most horribly paced games ever made.

It's what I've been saying for some time. JRPGs are more like Customizable Adventure Games.

They have the stats and levelling feature (the character customizing) in common with WRPGs, but in terms of gameplay styIe, share more in common with adventure games playing as pre-scripted characters, where its the WRPGs that have the role playing driven gameplay of being your own character in the universe.

In way, you could say that JRPGs are a bridge between role playing games and action adventure games.

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#166 Arach666
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Thank god you were joking.
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#167 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"] Alright, then subtract 4 from 13. Or easier. Add 1 to 8. Your choice :P

lol I'll subtract whatever the hell I want!!!!

Do whatever it takes to get to the number "9". And put 2 'F's in front and you have the best FF game.

Lol, 9 I actually didn't like as much. 8 I think I have a bias for as my first FF. But to each his own!
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#168 Animal-Mother
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Thank god you were joking.Arach666
I bet you were scratching your head for sometime.
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#169 Arach666
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[QUOTE="Arach666"]Thank god you were joking.Animal-Mother
I bet you were scratching your head for sometime.

I scratched so much that I almost lost all my beautiful hair...

Had you continued this ruse,I would be bald rigth now.

That´s how appaled I was...

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#170 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]I would call this game a action strategy game since it striped almost all of it s rpg elements.

AdobeArtist


I'd say more like cinematic action-adventure, given the linearity of this game compared to actual strategic/tactical RPG's. I'm not sure why it is even cIassed as a "RPG" anymore... the FF series and a lot of JRPG's in general have never really captured the essence of role-playing, just fighting battles and level grinding.

What I find most odd about the TC's claim is that the game has been out a few weeks and already he is claiming it to be the best at something which it really even isn't. It's like saying Fifa 10 is the best first-person shooter.

~~~

^^^ @mythrol: I think the Destructoid review covers that exact same point, which is what is having me question the TC's logic somewhat. It would suggest that every other game in existence is the most horribly paced games ever made.

It's what I've been saying for some time. JRPGs are more like Customizable Adventure Games.

They have the stats and levelling feature (the character customizing) in common with WRPGs, but in terms of gameplay styIe, share more in common with adventure games playing as pre-scripted characters, where its the WRPGs that have the role playing driven gameplay of being your own character in the universe.

In way, you could say that JRPGs are a bridge between role playing games and action adventure games.

Don't do this again, please. While I agree wit you, I remember how well this ended last time.

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#171 Episode_Eve
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I know I'm going to love FFXIII :). Just from looking at it, it looks to have one of the best battle systems of all time. As for every other aspect, I'll wait and see. Hopefully I can get it soon.

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#172 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]I would call this game a action strategy game since it striped almost all of it s rpg elements.

AdobeArtist


I'd say more like cinematic action-adventure, given the linearity of this game compared to actual strategic/tactical RPG's. I'm not sure why it is even cIassed as a "RPG" anymore... the FF series and a lot of JRPG's in general have never really captured the essence of role-playing, just fighting battles and level grinding.

What I find most odd about the TC's claim is that the game has been out a few weeks and already he is claiming it to be the best at something which it really even isn't. It's like saying Fifa 10 is the best first-person shooter.

~~~

^^^ @mythrol: I think the Destructoid review covers that exact same point, which is what is having me question the TC's logic somewhat. It would suggest that every other game in existence is the most horribly paced games ever made.

It's what I've been saying for some time. JRPGs are more like Customizable Adventure Games.

They have the stats and levelling feature (the character customizing) in common with WRPGs, but in terms of gameplay styIe, share more in common with adventure games playing as pre-scripted characters, where its the WRPGs that have the role playing driven gameplay of being your own character in the universe.

In way, you could say that JRPGs are a bridge between role playing games and action adventure games.

In a way, WRPGs also bridge between action and role playing games due to the combat. Just thought I'd add that in there.

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#173 SilverChimera
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Lol, 9 I actually didn't like as much. 8 I think I have a bias for as my first FF. But to each his own!Animal-Mother

*calls gang* We have another one that needs to go through the "conversion process"

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="dreman999"] Don't you mean that he forgot to subtract 7 from 13? FF8 was trash.SilverChimera
Lol FF8 was a fine game.

Alright, then subtract 4 from 13. Or easier. Add 1 to 8. Your choice :P

I loved 9. They need to make cities like ff9's again.
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#175 TREAL_Since
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Seems like A-M was joking...If so, I think it's not a very good one :(. It would be refreshing to actually see someone state FFXIII is their favorite RPG. In the meantime, I have to wait a bit longer to play it!

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Lol, 9 I actually didn't like as much. 8 I think I have a bias for as my first FF. But to each his own!SilverChimera

*calls gang* We have another one that needs to go through the "conversion process"

FFVIII is probably my favorite game of all time.
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Seems like A-M was joking...If so, I think it's not a very good one :(. It would be refreshing to actually see someone state FFXIII is their favorite RPG. In the meantime, I have to wait a bit longer to play it! [QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Lol, 9 I actually didn't like as much. 8 I think I have a bias for as my first FF. But to each his own!TREAL_Since

*calls gang* We have another one that needs to go through the "conversion process"

FFVIII is probably my favorite game of all time.

How in good god can it be with such a messed up story?

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#177 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Lol, 9 I actually didn't like as much. 8 I think I have a bias for as my first FF. But to each his own!SilverChimera

*calls gang* We have another one that needs to go through the "conversion process"

Uh oh.
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#178 dreman999
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

Lol, 9 I actually didn't like as much. 8 I think I have a bias for as my first FF. But to each his own!Animal-Mother

*calls gang* We have another one that needs to go through the "conversion process"

Uh oh.

Could at lease explain why, because every time someone state that they like ff8 the best they never say why.
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#179 SilverChimera
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Uh oh.

Don't bother running. They'll catch you :P [QUOTE="dreman999"] I loved 9. They need to make cities like ff9's again.

Yeah, 9 was amazing. [QUOTE="TREAL_Since"] FFVIII is probably my favorite game of all time.

Ah. I thought it was a great game, but not the best in my opinion.
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#180 TREAL_Since
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>In way, you could say that JRPGs are a bridge between role playing games and action adventure games.

AdobeArtist

So are games like Mass Effect 1/2, Jade Empire, and Demon's Souls. That's why its referred to as "Action RPG". Anyways, I wish we could stray away from categorizing them as "Western" and "Japanese". It's unnecessary IMO.

I think RPGs should be categorized as: Action, Strategy, Turn-based, or a mix of these. Because in the end all WRPGs and JRPGs fall under these descriptions :|.

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Is God of War and Dante's Inferno considered *Western* Hack N Slash, while Bayonetta and Devil May Cry are *Japanese* Hack N Slash? Nope, and they shouldn't. There are differences between these games such as: grading you between levels based on your combo variety; The way you execute moves are different as well; And item management is different as well.

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[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]Seems like A-M was joking...If so, I think it's not a very good one :(. It would be refreshing to actually see someone state FFXIII is their favorite RPG. In the meantime, I have to wait a bit longer to play it! [QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

*calls gang* We have another one that needs to go through the "conversion process"

dreman999

FFVIII is probably my favorite game of all time.

How in good god can it be with such a messed up story?

Well, that's just like your opinion man ;).
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]
I'd say more like cinematic action-adventure, given the linearity of this game compared to actual strategic/tactical RPG's. I'm not sure why it is even cIassed as a "RPG" anymore... the FF series and a lot of JRPG's in general have never really captured the essence of role-playing, just fighting battles and level grinding.

What I find most odd about the TC's claim is that the game has been out a few weeks and already he is claiming it to be the best at something which it really even isn't. It's like saying Fifa 10 is the best first-person shooter.

~~~

^^^ @mythrol: I think the Destructoid review covers that exact same point, which is what is having me question the TC's logic somewhat. It would suggest that every other game in existence is the most horribly paced games ever made.

DarkLink77

It's what I've been saying for some time. JRPGs are more like Customizable Adventure Games.

They have the stats and levelling feature (the character customizing) in common with WRPGs, but in terms of gameplay styIe, share more in common with adventure games playing as pre-scripted characters, where its the WRPGs that have the role playing driven gameplay of being your own character in the universe.

In way, you could say that JRPGs are a bridge between role playing games and action adventure games.

Don't do this again, please. While I agree wit you, I remember how well this ended last time.

No. I will never compromise. Not even in the face of System Wars armageddon :P

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#183 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="dreman999"]

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"] FFVIII is probably my favorite game of all time.TREAL_Since

How in good god can it be with such a messed up story?

Well, that's just like your opinion man ;).

Some of FF8's story is really odd plus that stupid orphange scene was incredibly lame. But the game was really fun I thought. One of the best last dungeons I have had the pleasure of going through.

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"]

*calls gang* We have another one that needs to go through the "conversion process"

dreman999

Uh oh.

Could at lease explain why, because every time someone state that they like ff8 the best they never say why.

Well as I said in an earlier post I do have a bias as it is my first FF. I thought the story was told well enough and enjoyed the junctioning system enough to warrant it a good game. But then again I do have a bias.

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#185 W1NGMAN-
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So this whole thread was just flamebait?

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#186 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

It's what I've been saying for some time. JRPGs are more like Customizable Adventure Games.

They have the stats and levelling feature (the character customizing) in common with WRPGs, but in terms of gameplay styIe, share more in common with adventure games playing as pre-scripted characters, where its the WRPGs that have the role playing driven gameplay of being your own character in the universe.

In way, you could say that JRPGs are a bridge between role playing games and action adventure games.

AdobeArtist

Don't do this again, please. While I agree wit you, I remember how well this ended last time.

No. I will never compromise. Not even in the face of System Wars armageddon :P

rorschach

Don't make a giant naked blue man explode you with his brain, now. That would be a great loss. :P

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#187 Animal-Mother
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So this whole thread was just flamebait?

W1NGMAN-
* Flaming: Communications clearly insulting other users, individually or as a group, directly or indirectly, are not allowed. This includes, but is not limited to: name-calling ("You're an idiot", "You moron"); direct insults and orders ("Screw you", "Go kill yourself"); insinuations ("Are you stupid or something?"); or insults towards family ("Your mom..."). * Flaming in SW: Any insult to another user in this forum will merit an automatic 3 day suspension. Even calling someone "dumb" is flaming. Using a smiley or putting "joke" etc after an insult does not mitigate it. If you cannot post without insulting someone then please dont post at all. I don't think I insulted anyone.
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#188 ActicEdge
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So this whole thread was just flamebait?

W1NGMAN-

Naw, he didn't actually attack anyone or say anything that is unreasonable. He basically stealth trolled SW in a fun way. It was pretty harmless to be honest.

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#189 AdobeArtist  Moderator
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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Don't do this again, please. While I agree wit you, I remember how well this ended last time.

DarkLink77

No. I will never compromise. Not even in the face of System Wars armageddon :P

rorschach

Don't make a giant naked blue man explode you with his brain, now. That would be a great loss. :P

Where's PSN8214 when you need him? :lol: :P

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#190 Seabas989
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From the 3-4 hours I've played FFXIII, I enjoyed it so far. It was a litttle too linear but the overall combat system was highly addicting.

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#191 Arach666
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[QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

So this whole thread was just flamebait?

Animal-Mother
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You insulted my intelligence :P
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#192 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

No. I will never compromise. Not even in the face of System Wars armageddon :P

rorschach

AdobeArtist

Don't make a giant naked blue man explode you with his brain, now. That would be a great loss. :P

Where's PSN8214 when you need him? :lol: :P

Obviously not here... Maybe he went to see Avatar again. :P

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#194 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]

So this whole thread was just flamebait?

Arach666
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You insulted my intelligence :P

*peers around for banhammer* That is something I do not need again! :P
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#195 W1NGMAN-
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Take your fanboy goggles off and you'll see how generic FF13 is. I can name at least 10 better to waaaaaaay better RPG's this gen so forget about all times.silversix_

The TC was just trolling ... he doesn't really mean what he said in the OP. You can relax now.

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#196 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

No. I will never compromise. Not even in the face of System Wars armageddon :P

rorschach

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Don't make a giant naked blue man explode you with his brain, now. That would be a great loss. :P

Where's PSN8214 when you need him? :lol: :P

He said blue MAN, not blue BOY. ;)