Final Fantasy XIII-2 bits: You can stop complaining now (Videos)

[QUOTE="GranMaster1"]http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/2011/06/07/e3-2011-final-fantasy-xiii-2-demo-atlas-boss-battle-footage.html.... Nice the same boring battle system is back ...Great..lloveLamp

Yes, let's go back to the system where you don't even have to press x!

[QUOTE="GranMaster1"]http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/2011/06/07/e3-2011-final-fantasy-xiii-2-demo-atlas-boss-battle-footage.html.... Nice the same boring battle system is back ...Great..lloveLamp

It's not like you couldn't get by the vast majority of fights in the beloved FFVI-FFIX by solely mashing X. You didn't even have to worry about paradigm shift or keeping your party alive for most of the time!

It's not like you couldn't get by the vast majority of fights in the beloved FFVI-FFIX by solely mashing X. You didn't even have to worry about paradigm shift or keeping your party alive for most of the time!

hakanakumono

The weaboos seem to be in full force here. Final fantasy pretty much started to decline when 7 was released. Tactics was actually a very good game, and regardless of translation errors, had a much better storyline than all of the later games.(Sorry but endless convoluted dialogue a good story does not make). It also had the best battle system by far, probably because it was a tactics ogre clone. The glory days of Jrpgs have long ended...creative games like Earthbound, Chrono Trigger and in many ways Final fantasy 6 don't really exist anymore. Western rpg's have always been more complex, and that's a fact. Compare the plotline of Planescape Torment to any final fantasy. The only series that still has promise is Shin Megami Tensei. It's not just a simple divide. Compare any lucasarts adventure title to any squaresoft game and squaresoft will lose. I never really played those games for story, but rather escapism and the usual interesting banter. It got too well...cheesy, and somewhat embarresing when ten came around. I've played so many games, and its kind of a shame that more people out there don't do the same, that way you wouldn't be so biased towards a country or region that happens to release good games in succesion but could look at the possiblities of good games coming from all sides. Jrpgs are in a rut, and hopefully someone can come around and release a game like Chrono Trigger again.

It's not like you couldn't get by the vast majority of fights in the beloved FFVI-FFIX by solely mashing X. You didn't even have to worry about paradigm shift or keeping your party alive for most of the time!

hakanakumono

Sums it up.

The hardest part of FFVI is that magic tower place where you recruit Strago again. But even then as long as you come prepared by learning alot of good magic beforehand the place isn't THAT bad. And as long as you have life 3 the boss of the tower is easy as well.

My last playthrough of FFVII on my PSP, I didn't get one game over on the main quest. Or, I did get one when you fight the Turks at the end of Disc 2, although that's mostly because I wasn't taking the fight seriously as at that point I wasn't expecting much of a fight against them and ended up being surprised. Only other thing I recall being hard in FFVII was that robot you fight before getting the submarine.

FFVIII, if you don't bother grinding the game will still be easy as enemies are always around your level, and if you do bother drawing alot in FFVIII then I hope you're prepared for one of the most repetive things in FF!

The hardest thing about FFIX was trying to steal equipment from bosses. If not for that I would probably get by quite well in FFIX as well.

There's of course all the optional stuff in the abovee games as well which can be challenging and get me somee game overs. But FFXIII also has some pretty challenging cieth stone missions as well.

Chrono Trigger was a great game for it's time, but there have been more creative stories since then, including the oh so cheesy FFX.

The weaboos seem to be in full force here. Final fantasy pretty much started to decline when 7 was released. Tactics was actually a very good game, and regardless of translation errors, had a much better storyline than all of the later games.(Sorry but endless convoluted dialogue a good story does not make). It also had the best battle system by far, probably because it was a tactics ogre clone. The glory days of Jrpgs have long ended...creative games like Earthbound, Chrono Trigger and in many ways Final fantasy 6 don't really exist anymore. Western rpg's have always been more complex, and that's a fact. Compare the plotline of Planescape Torment to any final fantasy. The only series that still has promise is Shin Megami Tensei. It's not just a simple divide. Compare any lucasarts adventure title to any squaresoft game and squaresoft will lose. I never really played those games for story, but rather escapism and the usual interesting banter. It got too well...cheesy, and somewhat embarresing when ten came around. I've played so many games, and its kind of a shame that more people out there don't do the same, that way you wouldn't be so biased towards a country or region that happens to release good games in succesion but could look at the possiblities of good games coming from all sides. Jrpgs are in a rut, and hopefully someone can come around and release a game like Chrono Trigger again.

Xuix

[QUOTE="GranMaster1"]http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/2011/06/07/e3-2011-final-fantasy-xiii-2-demo-atlas-boss-battle-footage.html.... Nice the same boring battle system is back ...Great..lloveLamp

The battle system from 13 was just fine. I didint jsut press x the whole way(though some fights I did) and I had blast with the combat. If you want some different combat just wait till the next FF or play something els.

The weaboos seem to be in full force here. Final fantasy pretty much started to decline when 7 was released. Tactics was actually a very good game, and regardless of translation errors, had a much better storyline than all of the later games.(Sorry but endless convoluted dialogue a good story does not make). It also had the best battle system by far, probably because it was a tactics ogre clone. The glory days of Jrpgs have long ended...creative games like Earthbound, Chrono Trigger and in many ways Final fantasy 6 don't really exist anymore. Western rpg's have always been more complex, and that's a fact. Compare the plotline of Planescape Torment to any final fantasy. The only series that still has promise is Shin Megami Tensei. It's not just a simple divide. Compare any lucasarts adventure title to any squaresoft game and squaresoft will lose. I never really played those games for story, but rather escapism and the usual interesting banter. It got too well...cheesy, and somewhat embarresing when ten came around. I've played so many games, and its kind of a shame that more people out there don't do the same, that way you wouldn't be so biased towards a country or region that happens to release good games in succesion but could look at the possiblities of good games coming from all sides. Jrpgs are in a rut, and hopefully someone can come around and release a game like Chrono Trigger again.

Xuix

looks like someone is upset.

I didn't really enjoy the battle system in 13, so a little disappointing they aren't changing it.

Who else absolutely cannot stand the new main character?

I didn't really enjoy the battle system in 13, so a little disappointing they aren't changing it.

dommeus

[QUOTE="dommeus"]

I didn't really enjoy the battle system in 13, so a little disappointing they aren't changing it.

dude-bro

Chrono Trigger was a great game for it's time, but there have been more creative stories since then, including the oh so cheesy FFX.

hakanakumono

[QUOTE="dude-bro"][QUOTE="dommeus"]

I didn't really enjoy the battle system in 13, so a little disappointing they aren't changing it.

SapSacPrime

FFXIII's battle system is far from terrible. I might even go as far as to say it's the best the series has ever seen.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Chrono Trigger was a great game for it's time, but there have been more creative stories since then, including the oh so cheesy FFX.

Lethalhazard

Oh, don't get me wrong. Chrono Trigger is great. But he was going on about there not being any JRPGs as creative as "Chrono Trigger" ...

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Chrono Trigger was a great game for it's time, but there have been more creative stories since then, including the oh so cheesy FFX.

hakanakumono

Oh, don't get me wrong. Chrono Trigger is great. But he was going on about there not being any JRPGs as creative as "Chrono Trigger" ...

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"] Nothing beats time travel, SON! Seriously it's just amazing to see how the centuries evolved in that game, I haven't really seen anything like it. If it's not more creative than FFX's, it's more interesting to me at least!Lethalhazard

Oh, don't get me wrong. Chrono Trigger is great. But he was going on about there not being any JRPGs as creative as "Chrono Trigger" ...

I agree with you on CC. :)

[QUOTE="jimwade"][QUOTE="neo418"]

where's ffvs13?

VensInferno

True that. SE just doesen't know what their fans want.

[QUOTE="VensInferno"]

[QUOTE="jimwade"][QUOTE="neo418"]

where's ffvs13?

HaloPimp978

True that. SE just doesen't know what their fans want.

SE doesnt even know where their fans are lol.

since SE cant write character or story worth **** anymore I don't care if they somehow made the FF XIII gameplay slightly better

Even if I still had my PS3, I wouldn't care about this. Final Fantasy X-2 had an awful storyline and wouldn't really expect this to be any different.

Chrono Trigger was a great game for it's time, but there have been more creative stories since then, including the oh so cheesy FFX.

hakanakumono

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Oh, don't get me wrong. Chrono Trigger is great. But he was going on about there not being any JRPGs as creative as "Chrono Trigger" ...

hakanakumono

I agree with you on CC. :)

[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"][QUOTE="dude-bro"] Why would you expect them to change it? There seems to be tweaks and improvements, but to expect an overhaul from a direct sequel is really foolish.hakanakumono

FFXIII's battle system is far from terrible. I might even go as far as to say it's the best the series has ever seen.

Chrono Trigger was a great game for it's time, but there have been more creative stories since then, including the oh so cheesy FFX.

hakanakumono

I don't think the story in FFX is more creative exactly, but it is definitely more developed and has more you can sink your teeth into.

FFX probably wins in the story department overall (due to being way more fleshed out; I prefer CT's concept), but I still think Chrono Trigger is a much better game overall.

[QUOTE="dude-bro"][QUOTE="dommeus"]

I didn't really enjoy the battle system in 13, so a little disappointing they aren't changing it.

SapSacPrime

Where is this much hate at? Just cause you hang around people hate it like you do doesint mean its universaly hated. I honestly think its one of the most battle system in FF.

FFXIII Was the most cheesiest/boring FF ive ever played. this looks 2x as cheesy, PASSSSSSSSSSS

[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"][QUOTE="dude-bro"] Why would you expect them to change it? There seems to be tweaks and improvements, but to expect an overhaul from a direct sequel is really foolish.hakanakumono

FFXIII's battle system is far from terrible. I might even go as far as to say it's the best the series has ever seen.

I haven't played every single game in the series, but I've played a fair amount and I'd agree with this 100%.

I'd say that FFVIII probably had the worst battle system. I thought the Junction system was so dumb. It was needlessly complicated.

http://finalfantasy-xiii.net/2011/06/07/e3-2011-final-fantasy-xiii-2-demo-atlas-boss-battle-footage.html.... Nice the same boring battle system is back ...Great..GranMaster1

[QUOTE="dude-bro"][QUOTE="dommeus"]

I didn't really enjoy the battle system in 13, so a little disappointing they aren't changing it.

SapSacPrime

From what I've seen, the consensus seems to be that the battle system is one thing that the game does right.

And yes, they do change up the battle system pretty much every time, which can either be a good thing or a bad thing.

I love the FFXIII battle system and thought it was a heck of alot better than kind of dopey FFXII system. FFXIII's battle system looks great, is simple and elegant, feels more exciting and immediate due to its speed, and has a good amount of strategy built in. I would have never been able to experience this new system had they not changed it up from the last installment.

On the other hand, due to their pattern of changing the battle system, you get stuff like the Junction system.

[QUOTE="dude-bro"][QUOTE="dommeus"]

I didn't really enjoy the battle system in 13, so a little disappointing they aren't changing it.

SapSacPrime

I personally enjoyed the battle system of FFXIII. So I'm hoping they simply polish it really. Can't really comment on the QTE's but we've had those before in stuff like Heavy Rain and GOW and KH, so we'll see I guess. Being able to use monsters sound sweet too.

I do hope the story-telling is overall improved and better paced since we've lost that from the last couple of FFs. I'll still probably like the game just from the battle system, like I did with FFXIII, but I do hope for more from the story. Most importantly I hope they don't give out spoilerific trailers.

I'm overall semi-psyched for the game. I honestly liked FFXIII and liked the story/characters to a certain point. But after replaying FFX recently I realised how much the story lacked in FFXIII. Here's hoping for more this time. I wonder what/if anything from my platinumed save file gets me anyhting from XIII-2.

[QUOTE="jimwade"]How is the combat in it any more dull than every other FF game outside of Crisis Core? Luxen90

I also think Crisis Core has one of the worst battle systems. There's no challenge in CC, and the combat is slow & awful, imo. All you have to do is get behind an enemy and press X, or you could just press X alone since Zack will automatically run up to the enemy and attack him [no effort required]. The DMW reel system is a horrible feature (imo) since it ruins the pacing of the combat with its cutscenes, and it gets pretty annoying when it occurs every three seconds during a boss fight. It felt like the game was the one fighting the boss and not me. The DMW occasionally deals a great amount of damage to your enemy or heals you [I don't remember using an item in this game...lol.]

I also had other problems with CC like the repetitive side missions, how battles were triggered, the dialogue, story, etc. Sorry, I love getting it out of my system.

Anyways, FFXIII-2 looks alright I suppose. I enjoyed the battle system from FFXIII, but Toriyama is once again writing the story. Hopefully there are other things to do in this game other than fighting. In FFXIII, all the side missions were just battles; no exploration or side-quests.

FF13 was so bad that thinking about playing another makes my crotch shrivel

FFXIII was rushed... can't deny it. Blame the 360 or not, that was a rushed friggn title.

This game may actually have towns and dungeons! Too bad I hate the characters

[QUOTE="HaloPimp978"]

[QUOTE="VensInferno"] In the hearts of Sony Fanboys everywhere. Kashiwaba

True that. SE just doesen't know what their fans want.

SE doesnt even know where their fans are lol.

SE's fans don't even know where they are.

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Chrono Trigger was a great game for it's time, but there have been more creative stories since then, including the oh so cheesy FFX.

texasgoldrush

Did I say that it was? Jesus.

make better characters

make better dialogue

Stop watering down the game to fit for western audience make

better characters

stop with redundent ass lines, i heard the guy scream about serah EVERYTIME the camera was on him

dont make the battle system so easy(just take auto and it's all done)

make better characters

no more linear gameplay.....

and did i mention the characters being bad and clichéd?

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"]

[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Oh, don't get me wrong. Chrono Trigger is great. But he was going on about there not being any JRPGs as creative as "Chrono Trigger" ...

hakanakumono

I agree with you on CC. :)

make better characters

make better dialogue

Stop watering down the game to fit for western audience make

better characters

stop with redundent ass lines, i heard the guy scream about serah EVERYTIME the camera was on him

dont make the battle system so easy(just take auto and it's all done)

make better characters

no more linear gameplay.....

and did i mention the characters being bad and clichéd?

eboyishere

Just cause you think they suck doesint mean they do. Remember remove opinion from fact. Its not that hard.

Seems like it will be improved, but I hope they spice the battle system up enough. It got kinda boring as time progressed.