[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Waffle_Fish"]MMORPGs suck. Most of them just amount to grinding Waffle_FishAny different from online shooters ect how? Online shooters are competitive matches, emphasize on competition... grinding is more the mindless and boring killing of monsters to max your level when there aren't any quests left. Yea, because PvE racing isnt competitive? Arenas and PvP arnt competitive...?
Final Fantasy XIV to have subsciption fees.
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[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Waffle_Fish"]MMORPGs suck. Most of them just amount to grinding NerkconAny different from online shooters ect how? Shooters are fun and each battle does not happen the exact same way. You are not grinding for experience or gear, you are just playing for fun and excitement. New maps get made for free by other players anf you can simply go to another server if the one you're on is bad with out paying a transfer fee. MMOs are carrots on a stick, nothing more. Get to level 40 to get your mount, get to the level cap for the real fun, now that you got all of tier one raid X dungeon for Y more months to get tier 2. It's stupid and pointless, you're playing to get something rather than for fun. And the lcick and watch gameplay is boring as hell. I play WoW as a online chatroom, the gameplay sucks and the art style looks really stupid (purple elves anyone? What bout hunched back characters? Oh joy!). MMORPGs are fun, each PvP and Arena battle does not happen in the exact same way, your not grinding for ranks and weapon unlocks (oh wait), you are just playing for fun and excitement for huge battles and bosses, wide variety of quests and story archs. When your losing you dont simple jump across servers blaming cheaters and grenade spam all day. Sorry ... what... I do more "click and watch" in shooters, Ironically pressing even less buttons than WoW for example, how is it even "click and watch" ... all clicking is is selecting the target, hell or actually be GOOD and tab. As a Priest having to Heal, deal damage, debuff/silence/fear ect, yea ... i just click 1 button and watch right? :roll: like I click left mouse and watch a bullet hit a guy in the head. :roll:. Nobody could possible find leveling, character building and slaying big bosses with 25-40 teamates a few 100 times, yet apperently its fun to repeat same map crawls with same weapon setups with nade spam, with stupid perks and helicopters on a random spawn system... its TOTALLY not the same thing clearly... oh wait. YES IT IS. The MMORPG genre being the most popular genre in the world speaks for itself thanks. Oh and, WoW's gameplay is more fun than pretty much every SRPG around, not saying the same for all MMO's, and the artyle is amazing... purple elves? amazing now lets laugh at CoD4 for players recovering thier blood magically and not dying from 1-2 bullets. hunched characters? yes coz Trolls and Undead should have perfect posture :roll: ... brilliant.
[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Waffle_Fish"] Online shooters are competitive matches, emphasize on competition... grinding is more the mindless and boring killing of monsters to max your level when there aren't any quests left. NerkconYea, because PvE racing isnt competitive? Arenas and PvP arnt competitive...? Good idea, race through the PVE and miss the story plots that they wanted you to see! Not to mention it's a matter of luck as the tier drops are based on a random number. And arena, wow a fight game were the out come is based on a random number generator! How exciting, not matter how hard I try if I don't roll higher numbers I'm going to lose! :D Not to mention the classes are sooo fair and perfectly balanced. And even if their not that's okay, just make a new account and RAF yourself to level another character to level cap in 5 days! Not hard or expensive at all. And don't forget people who multibox, or people who gank low level players that have no chance against them, so fun and exciting! :D
WoW? Story plots? Where? I play WoW for the PvP and FFXI for the PvE story.
Good idea, race through the PVE and miss the story plots that they wanted you to see! Not to mention it's a matter of luck as the tier drops are based on a random number. And arena, wow a fight game were the out come is based on a random number generator! How exciting, not matter how hard I try if I don't roll higher numbers I'm going to lose! :D Not to mention the classes are sooo fair and perfectly balanced. And even if their not that's okay, just make a new account and RAF yourself to level another character to level cap in 5 days! Not hard or expensive at all. And don't forget people who multibox, or people who gank low level players that have no chance against them, so fun and exciting! :D[QUOTE="Nerkcon"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"] Yea, because PvE racing isnt competitive? Arenas and PvP arnt competitive...?Nagidar
WoW? Story plots? Where? I play WoW for the PvP and FFXI for the PvE story.
It has loads, especially in Burning Crusade and WOTLK. once again, cutscenes are not neccesary for plots.
[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="Nerkcon"] Good idea, race through the PVE and miss the story plots that they wanted you to see! Not to mention it's a matter of luck as the tier drops are based on a random number. And arena, wow a fight game were the out come is based on a random number generator! How exciting, not matter how hard I try if I don't roll higher numbers I'm going to lose! :D Not to mention the classes are sooo fair and perfectly balanced. And even if their not that's okay, just make a new account and RAF yourself to level another character to level cap in 5 days! Not hard or expensive at all. And don't forget people who multibox, or people who gank low level players that have no chance against them, so fun and exciting! :D PC360Wii
WoW? Story plots? Where? I play WoW for the PvP and FFXI for the PvE story.
It has loads, especially in Burning Crusade and WOTLK. once again, cutscenes are not neccesary for plots.Actually, no, it didn't, WoW has quest chains with mini stories, nothing more, FFXI had these quest chains and also had a main storyline. Big difference.
Final Fantasy XI for 360 had subscription fees AND you had to pay for XBL. : DMessiahbolical-And your point is?
[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Final Fantasy XI for 360 had subscription fees AND you had to pay for XBL. : DBluray001And Xbox 360 FFXI players saw this message alot from other FFXI players. {Looking for Party}?{Xbox}{360}(player}?{No Thanks}
Wrong, to play an MMO, you DO NOT have to have a XBL Gold subscription.
I'm not understanding the point of this... you really threw in no Opinion of your own and Final Fantasy 11 had a Subscription Fee along with most other Big MMO's.... W1ckedGo0seI posted this for those that were wondering about it. My opinion isn't needed. But, you would have known that if you read the whole thread.
It has loads, especially in Burning Crusade and WOTLK. once again, cutscenes are not neccesary for plots.[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]
WoW? Story plots? Where? I play WoW for the PvP and FFXI for the PvE story.
Nagidar
Actually, no, it didn't, WoW has quest chains with mini stories, nothing more, FFXI had these quest chains and also had a main storyline. Big difference.
So we are just going to completelty ignore Sholazar Basin + Freya, Stormpeaks & Thorim, and the entirity of ulduar are we? or Borean Tundra and Kelthuzad linked to Dragonblight and Naxxaramas? and the entire Icecrown plots? or Utgard Keeps plots?. Fair enough. The Lich King has been very present througout the entirity of this expansion. he is THE MAIN STORY.It has loads, especially in Burning Crusade and WOTLK. once again, cutscenes are not neccesary for plots.PC360Wii
Actually, no, it didn't, WoW has quest chains with mini stories, nothing more, FFXI had these quest chains and also had a main storyline. Big difference.
So we are just going to completelty ignore Sholazar Basin + Freya, Stormpeaks & Thorim, and the entirity of ulduar are we? or Borean Tundra and Kelthuzad linked to Dragonblight and Naxxaramas? and the entire Icecrown plots? or Utgard Keeps plots?. Fair enough. The Lich King has been very present througout the entirity of this expansion. he is THE MAIN STORY. None of those stories star your character. It's just world lore.[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]
MMORPGs are fun, each PvP and Arena battle does not happen in the exact same way, your not grinding for ranks and weapon unlocks (oh wait), you are just playing for fun and excitement for huge battles and bosses, wide variety of quests and story archs. When your losing you dont simple jump across servers blaming cheaters and grenade spam all day.
(((:roll: Call of Duty series has always been failed. Achievements are fun and they only add extra stuff. But seriosu I will never play COD4 and up because of the leveling system. I am not a hypercrit, I REALLY hate leveling. I do not want to waste a single second of my life building up fake muscles of a video game character.)))
Sorry ... what... I do more "click and watch" in shooters, Ironically pressing even less buttons than WoW for example, how is it even "click and watch" ... all clicking is is selecting the target, hell or actually be GOOD and tab. As a Priest having to Heal, deal damage, debuff/silence/fear ect, yea ... i just click 1 button and watch right? :roll: like I click left mouse and watch a bullet hit a guy in the head. :roll:.
(((Yeah, you press MANY button! like, 4 of them! and you press them like this '123213243233412323' to keep aggro as a tank or '111121111211112' as a DPS. :roll: so amazing! It has more button pressing than a fighting game!)))
Nobody could possible find leveling, character building and slaying big bosses with 25-40 teamates a few 100 times, yet apperently its fun to repeat same map crawls with same weapon setups with nade spam, with stupid perks and helicopters on a random spawn system... its TOTALLY not the same thing clearly... oh wait. YES IT IS.
(((Stop playing COD4 you scrub and play real shooters like Counter-STrike and Team Fortress.)))
The MMORPG genre being the most popular genre in the world speaks for itself thanks.
(((No, WoW is the most popular genre. out there. And many people play it because it is the 'cool thing, it's working like the Nintendo Wii does. To many WoW isn't their first MMO, but their first VIDEO GAME ever. But the socializing is fun I'll give you that. :)))
[QUOTE="Nagidar"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"] It has loads, especially in Burning Crusade and WOTLK. once again, cutscenes are not neccesary for plots.PC360Wii
Actually, no, it didn't, WoW has quest chains with mini stories, nothing more, FFXI had these quest chains and also had a main storyline. Big difference.
So we are just going to completelty ignore Sholazar Basin + Freya, Stormpeaks & Thorim, and the entirity of ulduar are we? or Borean Tundra and Kelthuzad linked to Dragonblight and Naxxaramas? and the entire Icecrown plots? or Utgard Keeps plots?. Fair enough. The Lich King has been very present througout the entirity of this expansion. he is THE MAIN STORY.Those are all mini stories, from quest chains, that does not equal a massive story. Like in FFXI CoP, it had a MASSIVE story that lead you to fighting Promathias, which if you completed it, granted you access to Sea, the Palace, to open Sea God fights and the best ring in the game.
[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Final Fantasy XI for 360 had subscription fees AND you had to pay for XBL. : DMortalDecayAnd your point is? LOL Come on, you lemmings can damage control better than this... can't you? I remember when lemmings were bashing cows for having to pay subscription fees and buy a hard drive to play FFXI on the PS2. If you have a core 360, not only would you have to buy a hard drive and pay a subscription fee to play FFXI, but you'd ALSO have to pay $50 a year for live. And this is all for a last gen game. NOW lemmings are trying to damage control FFXIV and downplay it by rubbing in subscription fees even though PSN is free and harddrives are standard? FAIL
[QUOTE="Bluray001"]WoW had a storyline? Are you on crack? Mini-stories and world lore are not a storyline. Only 2 MMORPGs to date have a storyline, FFXI and Age of Conan. SWTOR will be the third.PC360Wii... "mini stories" that connect the entire war effort against the main villan (in BC it was illidan in outland, then the additional azeroth area for Kil'jaedan and Kaelthas' real plot.) ... and now throught the entire WOTLK expansion, its all been a push towards the lich king, and Yogg Saron ... zomg.. NO STORY LOLOLOL. Not my problem if you dont have the attention span to read. Yogg Saron is even connected in pretty much MOST of the zones, and 4-5 instances alone. Again, learn the difference between world lore and a storyline.
[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Nagidar"]So we are just going to completelty ignore Sholazar Basin + Freya, Stormpeaks & Thorim, and the entirity of ulduar are we? or Borean Tundra and Kelthuzad linked to Dragonblight and Naxxaramas? and the entire Icecrown plots? or Utgard Keeps plots?. Fair enough. The Lich King has been very present througout the entirity of this expansion. he is THE MAIN STORY. None of those stories star your character. It's just world lore. It is still a story none the less. And sorry since this is a MMO, it is not all about you. And the story is progressing as raiders clear content Blizzards writes about events that happened after X boss died and writes for new up coming dungeons and so forth. But you're right, this kind of story telling is against everything of what a RPG is.Actually, no, it didn't, WoW has quest chains with mini stories, nothing more, FFXI had these quest chains and also had a main storyline. Big difference.
Bluray001
[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]
It's an MMO. It either has a fee or it sucks.
An MMO without a fee is Runescape. :lol:
Exactly ;)None of those stories star your character. It's just world lore. It is still a story none the less. And sorry since this is a MMO, it is not all about you. And the story is progressing as raiders clear content Blizzards writes about events that happened after X boss died and writes for new up coming dungeons and so forth. But you're right, this kind of story telling is against everything of what a RPG is. FFXI's storyline is about you. Age of Conan's storyline is about you. And SWTOR's storyline will also be about you. All 3 are MMOs.[QUOTE="Bluray001"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"] So we are just going to completelty ignore Sholazar Basin + Freya, Stormpeaks & Thorim, and the entirity of ulduar are we? or Borean Tundra and Kelthuzad linked to Dragonblight and Naxxaramas? and the entire Icecrown plots? or Utgard Keeps plots?. Fair enough. The Lich King has been very present througout the entirity of this expansion. he is THE MAIN STORY.Nerkcon
[QUOTE="PC360Wii"]
MMORPGs are fun, each PvP and Arena battle does not happen in the exact same way, your not grinding for ranks and weapon unlocks (oh wait), you are just playing for fun and excitement for huge battles and bosses, wide variety of quests and story archs. When your losing you dont simple jump across servers blaming cheaters and grenade spam all day.
(((:roll: Call of Duty series has always been failed. Achievements are fun and they only add extra stuff. But seriosu I will never play COD4 and up because of the leveling system. I am not a hypercrit, I REALLY hate leveling. I do not want to waste a single second of my life building up fake muscles of a video game character.)))
Oh well I suppose we have another double standard, because you see, while you like pretending to be an action packed army man shooting things and thinking its "fun" ALOT of us do like building characters and a sense of progression. So yea, if you dont like the genres then why are you even comenting on them? I dont like Fighters but I dont go bashing them.
Sorry ... what... I do more "click and watch" in shooters, Ironically pressing even less buttons than WoW for example, how is it even "click and watch" ... all clicking is is selecting the target, hell or actually be GOOD and tab. As a Priest having to Heal, deal damage, debuff/silence/fear ect, yea ... i just click 1 button and watch right? :roll: like I click left mouse and watch a bullet hit a guy in the head. :roll:.
(((Yeah, you press MANY button! like, 4 of them! and you press them like this '123213243233412323' to keep aggro as a tank or '111121111211112' as a DPS. :roll: so amazing! It has more button pressing than a fighting game!)))
4 of them?
PvP - Flash Heal, PW Shield, Renew, Greater Heal, Binding Heal, Prayer of Mending, Penance, Psychic Scream, Fear Ward, Dispell, Mass Dispell, Abolish Disease, Shadow Word: Pain, Devouring Plague, mind blast, smite - and thats just as a healer ... yes .. 4 buttons? LOL no.
Shooters? Left/Right cllick, G for grenade repeat repeat. I can poke as many holes in your logic ;)
Nobody could possible find leveling, character building and slaying big bosses with 25-40 teamates a few 100 times, yet apperently its fun to repeat same map crawls with same weapon setups with nade spam, with stupid perks and helicopters on a random spawn system... its TOTALLY not the same thing clearly... oh wait. YES IT IS.
(((Stop playing COD4 you scrub and play real shooters like Counter-STrike and Team Fortress.)))
Oh Im sorry, il play CS, a game with even less variety, a carrot mode. nvm guys il just reherse the same corners with 2-3 optional directions and corner hump until I get a kill or die, wait 5 mins then repeate. BRILLIANT.
The MMORPG genre being the most popular genre in the world speaks for itself thanks.
(((No, WoW is the most popular genre. out there. And many people play it because it is the 'cool thing, it's working like the Nintendo Wii does. To many WoW isn't their first MMO, but their first VIDEO GAME ever. But the socializing is fun I'll give you that. :)))
Blah Blah Blah, Illogical, Irrational gibberish.
Nerkcon
[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Bluray001"]WoW had a storyline? Are you on crack? Mini-stories and world lore are not a storyline. Only 2 MMORPGs to date have a storyline, FFXI and Age of Conan. SWTOR will be the third.Bluray001... "mini stories" that connect the entire war effort against the main villan (in BC it was illidan in outland, then the additional azeroth area for Kil'jaedan and Kaelthas' real plot.) ... and now throught the entire WOTLK expansion, its all been a push towards the lich king, and Yogg Saron ... zomg.. NO STORY LOLOLOL. Not my problem if you dont have the attention span to read. Yogg Saron is even connected in pretty much MOST of the zones, and 4-5 instances alone. Again, learn the difference between world lore and a storyline. Again, realize ingame events are a story line even if the camera doesnt shift from the player, or the characters speak in quest form *gasp*
[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Final Fantasy XI for 360 had subscription fees AND you had to pay for XBL. : DMessiahbolical-And your point is? LOL Come on, you lemmings can damage control better than this... can't you? I remember when lemmings were bashing cows for having to pay subscription fees and buy a hard drive to play FFXI on the PS2. If you have a core 360, not only would you have to buy a hard drive and pay a subscription fee to play FFXI, but you'd ALSO have to pay $50 a year for live. And this is all for a last gen game. NOW lemmings are trying to damage control FFXIV and downplay it by rubbing in subscription fees even though PSN is free and harddrives are standard? FAIL
As someone said earlier the bolded is not true. You can play FFXI online using a Xbox Live silver account(free).
one does not need gold to play mmo on xbox live.Servers don't pay for themselves and lemmings can't complain about the fees (because otherwise Live fees come into question). Oh and of course sheep don't get to complain either, nintendo online is garbage.
hakanakumono
[QUOTE="Bluray001"] FFXI's storyline is about you. Age of Conan's storyline is about you. And SWTOR's storyline will also be about you. All 3 are MMOs.NerkconReally, they're all about ME?! :oops: joking aside, I haven't played them, sorry. the only P2P MMO I have played so far is WoW, played a LOT of free ones though. Yup. Here is a sample of how FFXI does it's storyline. There is nothing like this in WoW, which is why WoW doesn't have a storyline. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Pyu8k3ENwA
[QUOTE="Bluray001"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"] ... "mini stories" that connect the entire war effort against the main villan (in BC it was illidan in outland, then the additional azeroth area for Kil'jaedan and Kaelthas' real plot.) ... and now throught the entire WOTLK expansion, its all been a push towards the lich king, and Yogg Saron ... zomg.. NO STORY LOLOLOL. Not my problem if you dont have the attention span to read. Yogg Saron is even connected in pretty much MOST of the zones, and 4-5 instances alone.PC360WiiAgain, learn the difference between world lore and a storyline. Again, realize ingame events are a story line even if the camera doesnt shift from the player, or the characters speak in quest form *gasp* No, again, that is world lore.
LOL Come on, you lemmings can damage control better than this... can't you? I remember when lemmings were bashing cows for having to pay subscription fees and buy a hard drive to play FFXI on the PS2. If you have a core 360, not only would you have to buy a hard drive and pay a subscription fee to play FFXI, but you'd ALSO have to pay $50 a year for live. And this is all for a last gen game. NOW lemmings are trying to damage control FFXIV and downplay it by rubbing in subscription fees even though PSN is free and harddrives are standard? FAIL[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"] And your point is?CAlNlAC
As someone said earlier the bolded is not true. You can play FFXI online using a Xbox Live silver account(free).
I doubt that. And even if it IS true, it's still stupid.. because if you have FFXI want to play all of your games online you need to pay multiple fees from different companies. This all goes back to prove that XBL is a rip off. You trying to tell me that with the millions of people paying $50 a year for live, they can't make some dedicated FFXI servers of their own? Pfft.[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]Final Fantasy XI for 360 had subscription fees AND you had to pay for XBL. : DMessiahbolical-And your point is? LOL Come on, you lemmings can damage control better than this... can't you? I remember when lemmings were bashing cows for having to pay subscription fees and buy a hard drive to play FFXI on the PS2. If you have a core 360, not only would you have to buy a hard drive and pay a subscription fee to play FFXI, but you'd ALSO have to pay $50 a year for live. And this is all for a last gen game. NOW lemmings are trying to damage control FFXIV and downplay it by rubbing in subscription fees even though PSN is free and harddrives are standard? FAIL Where's the damage control? Better yet, how does it feel to waste your time? Why not try reading the entire thread before posting? I was not rubbing this in anyone's face. For the 3rd time, I posted this for a few people that had asked this question in other threads. I have no reason to go into damage control, because I do not like MMORPGs. So, take that FAIL to bed with you tonight, and think about how you should read before you post. This way you won't over-react, and embarrass yourself.
[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Bluray001"] Again, learn the difference between world lore and a storyline.Bluray001Again, realize ingame events are a story line even if the camera doesnt shift from the player, or the characters speak in quest form *gasp* No, again, that is world lore. So, watching Loken and Thorim Fight... Loken uses Yogg Sarons power to capture and imprison Thorim in Ulduar, who is ofc then in Ulduar as an enemy, isnt story? yet watching a damn character in FF11 die because I completed a quest is? ... brilliant logic...
[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="MortalDecay"] And your point is?MortalDecayLOL Come on, you lemmings can damage control better than this... can't you? I remember when lemmings were bashing cows for having to pay subscription fees and buy a hard drive to play FFXI on the PS2. If you have a core 360, not only would you have to buy a hard drive and pay a subscription fee to play FFXI, but you'd ALSO have to pay $50 a year for live. And this is all for a last gen game. NOW lemmings are trying to damage control FFXIV and downplay it by rubbing in subscription fees even though PSN is free and harddrives are standard? FAIL Where's the damage control? Better yet, how does it feel to waste your time? Why not try reading the entire thread before posting? I was not rubbing this in anyone's face. For the 3rd time, I posted this for a few people that had asked this question in other threads. I have no reason to go into damage control, because I do not like MMORPGs. So, take that FAIL to bed with you tonight, and think about how you should read before you post. This way you won't over-react, and embarrass yourself. "And your point is?"
[QUOTE="CAlNlAC"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] LOL Come on, you lemmings can damage control better than this... can't you? I remember when lemmings were bashing cows for having to pay subscription fees and buy a hard drive to play FFXI on the PS2. If you have a core 360, not only would you have to buy a hard drive and pay a subscription fee to play FFXI, but you'd ALSO have to pay $50 a year for live. And this is all for a last gen game. NOW lemmings are trying to damage control FFXIV and downplay it by rubbing in subscription fees even though PSN is free and harddrives are standard? FAILMessiahbolical-
As someone said earlier the bolded is not true. You can play FFXI online using a Xbox Live silver account(free).
I doubt that. And even if it IS true, it's still stupid.. because if you have FFXI want to play all of your games online you need to pay multiple fees from different companies. This all goes back to prove that XBL is a rip off. You trying to tell me that with the millions of people paying $50 a year for live, they can't make some dedicated FFXI servers of their own? Pfft. First off it would be illegal for them to make dedicated servers for a game they don't own unless they paid for the right to do so. 2nd you doubt that but guess what its a fact its a simple fact and you keep saying that you have to pay for live AND mmo you keep lieing and lieing and lieing even though 4 times in this thread so far you've been told you do not have to pay for gold to play an mmo. Your grasping for straws.[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] LOL Come on, you lemmings can damage control better than this... can't you? I remember when lemmings were bashing cows for having to pay subscription fees and buy a hard drive to play FFXI on the PS2. If you have a core 360, not only would you have to buy a hard drive and pay a subscription fee to play FFXI, but you'd ALSO have to pay $50 a year for live. And this is all for a last gen game. NOW lemmings are trying to damage control FFXIV and downplay it by rubbing in subscription fees even though PSN is free and harddrives are standard? FAILMessiahbolical-Where's the damage control? Better yet, how does it feel to waste your time? Why not try reading the entire thread before posting? I was not rubbing this in anyone's face. For the 3rd time, I posted this for a few people that had asked this question in other threads. I have no reason to go into damage control, because I do not like MMORPGs. So, take that FAIL to bed with you tonight, and think about how you should read before you post. This way you won't over-react, and embarrass yourself. "And your point is?"
If you can't understand what I just posted, I can't help you. I do feel for you, though...
[QUOTE="Bluray001"][QUOTE="PC360Wii"] Again, realize ingame events are a story line even if the camera doesnt shift from the player, or the characters speak in quest form *gasp*PC360WiiNo, again, that is world lore. So, watching Loken and Thorim Fight... Loken uses Yogg Sarons power to capture and imprison Thorim in Ulduar, who is ofc then in Ulduar as an enemy, isnt story? yet watching a damn character in FF11 die because I completed a quest is? ... brilliant logic... You obviously havent seen how FFXI does it's storyline.
[QUOTE="CAlNlAC"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] LOL Come on, you lemmings can damage control better than this... can't you? I remember when lemmings were bashing cows for having to pay subscription fees and buy a hard drive to play FFXI on the PS2. If you have a core 360, not only would you have to buy a hard drive and pay a subscription fee to play FFXI, but you'd ALSO have to pay $50 a year for live. And this is all for a last gen game. NOW lemmings are trying to damage control FFXIV and downplay it by rubbing in subscription fees even though PSN is free and harddrives are standard? FAILMessiahbolical-
As someone said earlier the bolded is not true. You can play FFXI online using a Xbox Live silver account(free).
I doubt that. And even if it IS true, it's still stupid.. because if you have FFXI want to play all of your games online you need to pay multiple fees from different companies. This all goes back to prove that XBL is a rip off. You trying to tell me that with the millions of people paying $50 a year for live, they can't make some dedicated FFXI servers of their own? Pfft.For the 3rd friggin time in this thread, its TRUE, I have the friggin game on the 360 and you CAN play it with a Silver account...
[QUOTE="PC360Wii"][QUOTE="Bluray001"] No, again, that is world lore.Bluray001So, watching Loken and Thorim Fight... Loken uses Yogg Sarons power to capture and imprison Thorim in Ulduar, who is ofc then in Ulduar as an enemy, isnt story? yet watching a damn character in FF11 die because I completed a quest is? ... brilliant logic... You obviously havent seen how FFXI does it's storyline. I obviously have considering I played for a year straight, and my ex... well she has 500 days played and is obsessed with the freaking game. I even had to watch the death of her favourite Male Elvaan character :roll: and it was like watching any other MMO, only with a camera and animation. brilliant, no different bar the camera bit. they are all quest chains aswell, oh im sorry. does "mission" make it any different?
"mission" a fancy word for a more important QUEST CHAIN
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