Final Fantasy XV... thoughts?

[QUOTE="NYrockinlegend"][QUOTE="ConanTheStoner"]

Me too.  But they've been off track for far too long now.

tagyhag

Might as well at this point.  And then we can watch all these new age FF fans b*tch about how their action games became shooters.

[QUOTE="SexyJazzCat"]

[QUOTE="ConanTheStoner"]

Its not a matter of that at all.  You're trying to play a game of semantics.  It happens all day every day on SW.  People purposely feigning stupidity for the sake of wasting others time or arguing about... nothing.

Its nothing personal, I just don't engage in that nonsense.  I know you're not an idiot so I'm not going to entertain your game.

sandbox3d

I was genuinely curious as to what made you think it was a spin off. It's the first time I've seen a person call it that. But alright, if you absolutely refuse. No one's holding you at gun point.

1.  Stop acting stupid.

2.  We all know its a spin off.  Never intended to be a main game.  Just an off-shoot of the (ill recieved) XIII universe that SE has been trying to shove down our throats for years.  By their own words.

It shares no core similarities with any of the games.  Not in theme, not in setting, not in gameplay mechanics.  Its only a FF game because that is what SE decided to call it.  And they called it that just for the sake of branding = profits.  Nothing more.

Well you played his game, hope you made him happy.

I don't like the new gameplay, i think it might dissapoint more than FF13, it really doesn't look like FinalFantasy anymore, which is exactly why Versus 13 was so hyped, because it was suppose to be a return to the old Final Fantasy formula, remember?

Now it looks like Gears of Fantasy Versus More Dumbed Down than FF13

God Damnit Nomura

[QUOTE="SexyJazzCat"]

[QUOTE="ConanTheStoner"]

Its not a matter of that at all.  You're trying to play a game of semantics.  It happens all day every day on SW.  People purposely feigning stupidity for the sake of wasting others time or arguing about... nothing.

Its nothing personal, I just don't engage in that nonsense.  I know you're not an idiot so I'm not going to entertain your game.

sandbox3d

I was genuinely curious as to what made you think it was a spin off. It's the first time I've seen a person call it that. But alright, if you absolutely refuse. No one's holding you at gun point.

1.  Stop acting stupid.

2.  We all know its a spin off.  Never intended to be a main game.  Just an off-shoot of the (ill recieved) XIII universe that SE has been trying to shove down our throats for years.  By their own words.

It shares no core similarities with any of the games.  Not in theme, not in setting, not in gameplay mechanics.  Its only a FF game because that is what SE decided to call it.  And they called it that just for the sake of branding = profits.  Nothing more.

How can it be a spin off when each game is completely unrelated to each other. Also gameplay mechanics have changed in other Final Fantasy. Even so, changes in the gameplay wouldn't warrant it being a "spin off".

Also, how about you try to initiate a discussion without insulting someone. Keep it rational, buddy.

FF13 was the last straw for me.  But its still pathetic watching Square Enix force this shitty spin off into a full sequel.

After this one launches I bet the series will become completely irrelevant.  You can only ride the coat tails of past achievements so long.  Square is about to kill the franchise and they dont even know it.

So long FF!  It was good while it lasted at least.

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

[QUOTE="SexyJazzCat"]

I was genuinely curious as to what made you think it was a spin off. It's the first time I've seen a person call it that. But alright, if you absolutely refuse. No one's holding you at gun point.

ConanTheStoner

1.  Stop acting stupid.

2.  We all know its a spin off.  Never intended to be a main game.  Just an off-shoot of the (ill recieved) XIII universe that SE has been trying to shove down our throats for years.  By their own words.

It shares no core similarities with any of the games.  Not in theme, not in setting, not in gameplay mechanics.  Its only a FF game because that is what SE decided to call it.  And they called it that just for the sake of branding = profits.  Nothing more.

Well you played his game, hope you made him happy.

Just trying to have a rational discussion, but of course he went full herp derp on me.

I don't like the new gameplay, i think it might dissapoint more than FF13, it really doesn't look like FinalFantasy anymore, which is exactly why Versus 13 was so hyped, because it was suppose to be a return to the old Final Fantasy formula, remember?

Now it looks like Gears of Fantasy Versus More Dumbed Down than FF13

God Damnit Nomura

HaloinventedFPS

Yes, I remember.  And yes, god damn it Nomura.  Ever since they gave him power the series has been in steady decline.

FF13 was the last straw for me. But its still pathetic watching Square Enix force this shitty spin off into a full sequel.

After this one launches I bet the series will become completely irrelevant. You can only ride the coat tails of past achievements so long. Square is about to kill the franchise and they dont even know it.

So long FF! It was good while it lasted at least.

SDC_4_LIFE

Indeed, the whole hype for this game was because it was suppose to be exactly like an old school FF, it isn't anything at all like an old FF anymore

They should have just made it a spin off & called it Versus 13 in it's current state, it's not Final Fantasy anymore, the version that was Final Fantasy was scrapped a few years ago

Beside Type 0, this has been a FF that I been excited for, and now that excitement has appear at long last with this epic new trailer. It looked better than say the XIII games, and it looks even more now.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

I don't like the new gameplay, i think it might dissapoint more than FF13, it really doesn't look like FinalFantasy anymore, which is exactly why Versus 13 was so hyped, because it was suppose to be a return to the old Final Fantasy formula, remember?

Now it looks like Gears of Fantasy Versus More Dumbed Down than FF13

God Damnit Nomura

ConanTheStoner

Yes, I remember.  And yes, god damn it Nomura.  Ever since they gave him power the series has been in steady decline.

This is the first FF he has directed though. The next installment needs to be directed by Ito. He's still working for SE supposedly.

Yes, I remember.  And yes, god damn it Nomura.  Ever since they gave him power the series has been in steady decline.

ConanTheStoner

What power? He mostly just been character designer for the series in the last decade or so.

One of the better games to be shown at this E3 imo.

[QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]

I don't like the new gameplay, i think it might dissapoint more than FF13, it really doesn't look like FinalFantasy anymore, which is exactly why Versus 13 was so hyped, because it was suppose to be a return to the old Final Fantasy formula, remember?

Now it looks like Gears of Fantasy Versus More Dumbed Down than FF13

God Damnit Nomura

ConanTheStoner

Yes, I remember.  And yes, god damn it Nomura.  Ever since they gave him power the series has been in steady decline.

Graphics look good, would need to see more about the gameplay to get excited but it certainly looks better than FF13. It looks like it could be entertaining to watch combat though, that at least gives it one thing over FF13.

Final Fantasy has always been a pretty low priority series for me as far as JRPGs go though.

I may come off as a bit xenophbic but I miss the sprite days when racially ambiguous characters were the meat and potatos.... not spikey or slicked back japanese looking yakuza members. 

I was able to associate myself with racially ambiguous characters sprites and some 3d characters evenbut since FF10 *minus 12 and 13* the unmistakably japanese look has hinered my capacity for it.

I may come off as a bit xenophbic but I miss the sprite days when racially ambiguous characters were the meat and potatos.... not spikey or slicked back japanese looking yakuza members. 

I was able to associate myself with racially ambiguous characters sprites and some 3d characters evenbut since FF10 *minus 12 and 13* the unmistakably japanese look has hinered my capacity for it.

WilliamRLBaker

Games from Japan have Japanese looks. News at 11. Just like I'm sick of rugged white middle aged males in the majority of western games. I get that that's the majority of the western population but not all of us are middle aged white males either.

If today was the first time I had seen it I would be stoked out of my mind. It was a pretty sweet trailer but knowing that this was pretty much a failed and poorly managed project that started almost a decade ago has left me a little bit cautious it. Overall it looks promising but it's not a day one purchase or anything. 

If anything I think FFXV proving to be (hopefully) successful proves that Square has turned over a new leaf regarding FF getting them back on track and back to their usual awesome stuff (FFVI, IX, XII and Tactics are hnnnngh). Get rid of whatever was slowing them down, bring them back up to speed and get Hiroyuki Ito back to the forefront. I feel Square could easily get back in good with gamers if they can get over Versus and XIV. If doing some sketching renaming and whatnot helps that then so be it.

Honestly though i did notice they didn't focus on combat at all in the trailer. All they showed off was that gimmicky teleporting. Would've been nice to see some fast paced action.

Wait and see. It certainly looked nice.

I may come off as a bit xenophbic but I miss the sprite days when racially ambiguous characters were the meat and potatos.... not spikey or slicked back japanese looking yakuza members. 

I was able to associate myself with racially ambiguous characters sprites and some 3d characters evenbut since FF10 *minus 12 and 13* the unmistakably japanese look has hinered my capacity for it.

WilliamRLBaker

As weird as that sounds I can actually relate.  It was also easier to associate with characters before voice acting.  Not because VA is a bad thing, but in the hands of SE its usually atrocious.  FF12 is the only game in the series to have good VA (supported by decent writing of course).

I don't know if its just the ability to have higher fidelity presentation, or if its just a stylistic choice (or both), but it seems that as the hardware gets better, the visual style becomes increasingly niche.  You could approach the average western gamer with SNES/PS1 era Square games and nothing would seem off.  But these new games are very off putting to people who arent either Japanese or straight up weeaboos.

This is the first FF he has directed though. The next installment needs to be directed by Ito. He's still working for SE supposedly.

dr_mindbender12

He makes mobile games for them... by far their most talented developer. I hope the pot of gold they're chasing is worth it...

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I may come off as a bit xenophbic but I miss the sprite days when racially ambiguous characters were the meat and potatos.... not spikey or slicked back japanese looking yakuza members. 

I was able to associate myself with racially ambiguous characters sprites and some 3d characters evenbut since FF10 *minus 12 and 13* the unmistakably japanese look has hinered my capacity for it.

ActicEdge

Games from Japan have Japanese looks. News at 11. Just like I'm sick of rugged white middle aged males in the majority of western games. I get that that's the majority of the western population but not all of us are middle aged white males either.

Both styles being overdone can suck.  But Square games used to have world wide appeal.  Much like Nintendo games.  You didn't see the predominance of any culture really seep into their games.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I may come off as a bit xenophbic but I miss the sprite days when racially ambiguous characters were the meat and potatos.... not spikey or slicked back japanese looking yakuza members. 

I was able to associate myself with racially ambiguous characters sprites and some 3d characters evenbut since FF10 *minus 12 and 13* the unmistakably japanese look has hinered my capacity for it.

Wiimotefan

As weird as that sounds I can actually relate.  It was also easier to associate with characters before voice acting.  Not because VA is a bad thing, but in the hands of SE its usually atrocious.  FF12 is the only game in the series to have good VA (supported by decent writing of course).

I don't know if its just the ability to have higher fidelity presentation, or if its just a stylistic choice (or both), but it seems that as the hardware gets better, the visual style becomes increasingly niche.  You could approach the average western gamer with SNES/PS1 era Square games and nothing would seem off.  But these new games are very off putting to people who arent either Japanese or straight up weeaboos.

Maybe I need my eyes check but Noctis does look a bit out of place in the trailer. Like the rest of the people shown look acceptable enough and then Noctis looks like a full blown weeaboos wetdream lol.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I may come off as a bit xenophbic but I miss the sprite days when racially ambiguous characters were the meat and potatos.... not spikey or slicked back japanese looking yakuza members. 

I was able to associate myself with racially ambiguous characters sprites and some 3d characters evenbut since FF10 *minus 12 and 13* the unmistakably japanese look has hinered my capacity for it.

ActicEdge

Games from Japan have Japanese looks. News at 11. Just like I'm sick of rugged white middle aged males in the majority of western games. I get that that's the majority of the western population but not all of us are middle aged white males either.

A tad bit disappointed in what I saw.  The whole thing felt very action focused, somewhat linear in design,  with a hell of a lot of fancy scripted shit thrown in.   Still have yet to see something that resembles and actual Role Playing Game.

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I may come off as a bit xenophbic but I miss the sprite days when racially ambiguous characters were the meat and potatos.... not spikey or slicked back japanese looking yakuza members. 

I was able to associate myself with racially ambiguous characters sprites and some 3d characters evenbut since FF10 *minus 12 and 13* the unmistakably japanese look has hinered my capacity for it.

whiskeystrike

As weird as that sounds I can actually relate.  It was also easier to associate with characters before voice acting.  Not because VA is a bad thing, but in the hands of SE its usually atrocious.  FF12 is the only game in the series to have good VA (supported by decent writing of course).

I don't know if its just the ability to have higher fidelity presentation, or if its just a stylistic choice (or both), but it seems that as the hardware gets better, the visual style becomes increasingly niche.  You could approach the average western gamer with SNES/PS1 era Square games and nothing would seem off.  But these new games are very off putting to people who arent either Japanese or straight up weeaboos.

Maybe but I need my eyes check but Noctis does look a bit out of place in the trailer. Like the rest of the people shown look acceptable enough and then Noctis looks like a full blown weeaboos wetdream lol.

SE has a thing for ultra annoying unrelatable main characters, so you may be on to something lol.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I may come off as a bit xenophbic but I miss the sprite days when racially ambiguous characters were the meat and potatos.... not spikey or slicked back japanese looking yakuza members. 

I was able to associate myself with racially ambiguous characters sprites and some 3d characters evenbut since FF10 *minus 12 and 13* the unmistakably japanese look has hinered my capacity for it.

Wiimotefan

Games from Japan have Japanese looks. News at 11. Just like I'm sick of rugged white middle aged males in the majority of western games. I get that that's the majority of the western population but not all of us are middle aged white males either.

Both styles being overdone can suck.  But Square games used to have world wide appeal.  Much like Nintendo games.  You didn't see the predominance of any culture really seep into their games.

Thst had a lot to do with the games themselves as well though. If you look at saw FF3 or FF4 on the DS and watch the prerendered movies, the characters don't look very Japanese and the world certainly doesn't. SE has had the same style of visuals since the FF8 introduction video. Its just more pronounced because they are pandering to that style but so what. Why should Japanese developers aim to make characters who don't look Japanese? Why do we need rugged white males? And SE games had world wide appeal due to their graphics, quality and production values, it had nothing to do with the look of the characters.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I may come off as a bit xenophbic but I miss the sprite days when racially ambiguous characters were the meat and potatos.... not spikey or slicked back japanese looking yakuza members. 

I was able to associate myself with racially ambiguous characters sprites and some 3d characters evenbut since FF10 *minus 12 and 13* the unmistakably japanese look has hinered my capacity for it.

WilliamRLBaker

Games from Japan have Japanese looks. News at 11. Just like I'm sick of rugged white middle aged males in the majority of western games. I get that that's the majority of the western population but not all of us are middle aged white males either.

I agree nomura is shit but the idea that FF13 characters don't look very Japanese is strange to me. Imo besides 10, that is the most obvious example. 

I also think that listing like 5 games lacking white males doesn't change the fact that the majority of games feature them and its boring an unimaginative. This E3 was the worst example ever for that.

If today was the first time I had seen it I would be stoked out of my mind. It was a pretty sweet trailer but knowing that this was pretty much a failed and poorly managed project that started almost a decade ago has left me a little bit cautious it. Overall it looks promising but it's not a day one purchase or anything. 

If anything I think FFXV proving to be (hopefully) successful proves that Square has turned over a new leaf regarding FF getting them back on track and back to their usual awesome stuff (FFVI, IX, XII and Tactics are hnnnngh). Get rid of whatever was slowing them down, bring them back up to speed and get Hiroyuki Ito back to the forefront. I feel Square could easily get back in good with gamers if they can get over Versus and XIV. If doing some sketching renaming and whatnot helps that then so be it.

whiskeystrike

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Games from Japan have Japanese looks. News at 11. Just like I'm sick of rugged white middle aged males in the majority of western games. I get that that's the majority of the western population but not all of us are middle aged white males either.

ActicEdge

Both styles being overdone can suck.  But Square games used to have world wide appeal.  Much like Nintendo games.  You didn't see the predominance of any culture really seep into their games.

Thst had a lot to do with the games themselves as well though. If you look at saw FF3 or FF4 on the DS and watch the prerendered movies, the characters don't look very Japanese and the world certainly doesn't. SE has had the same style of visuals since the FF8 introduction video. Its just more pronounced because they are pandering to that style but so what. Why should Japanese developers aim to make characters who don't look Japanese? Why do we need rugged white males? And SE games had world wide appeal due to their graphics, quality and production values, it had nothing to do with the look of the characters.

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

Games from Japan have Japanese looks. News at 11. Just like I'm sick of rugged white middle aged males in the majority of western games. I get that that's the majority of the western population but not all of us are middle aged white males either.

ActicEdge

Both styles being overdone can suck.  But Square games used to have world wide appeal.  Much like Nintendo games.  You didn't see the predominance of any culture really seep into their games.

Thst had a lot to do with the games themselves as well though. If you look at saw FF3 or FF4 on the DS and watch the prerendered movies, the characters don't look very Japanese and the world certainly doesn't. SE has had the same style of visuals since the FF8 introduction video. Its just more pronounced because they are pandering to that style but so what. Why should Japanese developers aim to make characters who don't look Japanese? Why do we need rugged white males? And SE games had world wide appeal due to their graphics, quality and production values, it had nothing to do with the look of the characters.

I didnt mean world wide appeal in that sense.  I guess I'm lacking the word for it.  Their games just didnt seem pre-disposed to appeal to one culture or another.  They didnt seem Japanese.  They didnt seem western.  

I'm not really trying to say what they should and should not make.  

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

If today was the first time I had seen it I would be stoked out of my mind. It was a pretty sweet trailer but knowing that this was pretty much a failed and poorly managed project that started almost a decade ago has left me a little bit cautious it. Overall it looks promising but it's not a day one purchase or anything. 

If anything I think FFXV proving to be (hopefully) successful proves that Square has turned over a new leaf regarding FF getting them back on track and back to their usual awesome stuff (FFVI, IX, XII and Tactics are hnnnngh). Get rid of whatever was slowing them down, bring them back up to speed and get Hiroyuki Ito back to the forefront. I feel Square could easily get back in good with gamers if they can get over Versus and XIV. If doing some sketching renaming and whatnot helps that then so be it.

hiphops_savior

Ito is still there, kinda why I mentioned him.

Ito is still there, kinda why I mentioned him.

whiskeystrike

It looked good to me, day 1 purchase

It looked good to me, day 1 purchase

ryangcnx-2

I may come off as a bit xenophbic but I miss the sprite days when racially ambiguous characters were the meat and potatos.... not spikey or slicked back japanese looking yakuza members. 

I was able to associate myself with racially ambiguous characters sprites and some 3d characters evenbut since FF10 *minus 12 and 13* the unmistakably japanese look has hinered my capacity for it.

WilliamRLBaker

how do you think eastern gamers feel when they play western games? It cuts both ways. 

In any case, I agree that allowing character customization would appeal to a wider range of audiences. But comeon man, this is final fantasy, it's the archetypical eastern RPG. Complaining about having a eastern main character just seems like pointless whining. 

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

Both styles being overdone can suck.  But Square games used to have world wide appeal.  Much like Nintendo games.  You didn't see the predominance of any culture really seep into their games.

WilliamRLBaker

Thst had a lot to do with the games themselves as well though. If you look at saw FF3 or FF4 on the DS and watch the prerendered movies, the characters don't look very Japanese and the world certainly doesn't. SE has had the same style of visuals since the FF8 introduction video. Its just more pronounced because they are pandering to that style but so what. Why should Japanese developers aim to make characters who don't look Japanese? Why do we need rugged white males? And SE games had world wide appeal due to their graphics, quality and production values, it had nothing to do with the look of the characters.

So what should they look like then sir? Less Japanese but still Japanese? White? What do you want?

[QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

Ito is still there, kinda why I mentioned him.

hiphops_savior

Graphics? Awesome.

Gameplay? What the hell was that lame shit?

ActicEdge

This.

I may come off as a bit xenophbic but I miss the sprite days when racially ambiguous characters were the meat and potatos.... not spikey or slicked back japanese looking yakuza members. 

I was able to associate myself with racially ambiguous characters sprites and some 3d characters evenbut since FF10 *minus 12 and 13* the unmistakably japanese look has hinered my capacity for it.

WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="hiphops_savior"][QUOTE="whiskeystrike"]

Ito is still there, kinda why I mentioned him.

whiskeystrike

VI was perfect for me.

IV, V, VII and IX were also very good in this regard.

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I may come off as a bit xenophbic but I miss the sprite days when racially ambiguous characters were the meat and potatos.... not spikey or slicked back japanese looking yakuza members. 

I was able to associate myself with racially ambiguous characters sprites and some 3d characters evenbut since FF10 *minus 12 and 13* the unmistakably japanese look has hinered my capacity for it.

Capitan_Kid

What?  Amanos characters never really looked Japanese.  If anything, they looked like a bunch of French heroin addicts.

If today was the first time I had seen it I would be stoked out of my mind. It was a pretty sweet trailer but knowing that this was pretty much a failed and poorly managed project that started almost a decade ago has left me a little bit cautious it. Overall it looks promising but it's not a day one purchase or anything. 

If anything I think FFXV proving to be (hopefully) successful proves that Square has turned over a new leaf regarding FF getting them back on track and back to their usual awesome stuff (FFVI, IX, XII and Tactics are hnnnngh). Get rid of whatever was slowing them down, bring them back up to speed and get Hiroyuki Ito back to the forefront. I feel Square could easily get back in good with gamers if they can get over Versus and XIV. If doing some sketching renaming and whatnot helps that then so be it.

whiskeystrike

yes, I totally agree. After FFXIII, we should all be cautious toward the series. But the reveal is very promising. If anything, it warrents a second look at the series. 

What I was most impressed with is the new direction, focused on viceral combat, integration of high production value, cinematic effects with the gameplay. It's certainly promising that this game is using the new engine; and from the gameplay that we've seen, it certain seems that the engine is capable of implement this new direction that SE is taking Final Fantasy.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

Both styles being overdone can suck.  But Square games used to have world wide appeal.  Much like Nintendo games.  You didn't see the predominance of any culture really seep into their games.

Wiimotefan

Thst had a lot to do with the games themselves as well though. If you look at saw FF3 or FF4 on the DS and watch the prerendered movies, the characters don't look very Japanese and the world certainly doesn't. SE has had the same style of visuals since the FF8 introduction video. Its just more pronounced because they are pandering to that style but so what. Why should Japanese developers aim to make characters who don't look Japanese? Why do we need rugged white males? And SE games had world wide appeal due to their graphics, quality and production values, it had nothing to do with the look of the characters.

I didnt mean world wide appeal in that sense.  I guess I'm lacking the word for it.  Their games just didnt seem pre-disposed to appeal to one culture or another.  They didnt seem Japanese.  They didnt seem western.  

I'm not really trying to say what they should and should not make.  

I dunno man, honestly when people say it appealed to everyone what they mean is "the character didn't look not white because the graphics made it hard to tell". That's basically it frankly. Up until FF8 the characters in FF games just looked like generic white characters because the graphics made it seem as such. Starting with the FF8 prerendered graphics (skipping 9 since that's actually the only semi modern FF where the characters had universal design) they looked Japanese. 12 was a step back to that because it was originally following Matsuno's vision which is grounded more in political plots which need character diversity but then 13 went right back to it. I mean there is nothing wrong with this but the majority of people turned off by this japanese style clearly weren't picturing the sprites to be japanese, they were picturing them to be white. I know I was and I'm a black male.

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

I may come off as a bit xenophbic but I miss the sprite days when racially ambiguous characters were the meat and potatos.... not spikey or slicked back japanese looking yakuza members. 

I was able to associate myself with racially ambiguous characters sprites and some 3d characters evenbut since FF10 *minus 12 and 13* the unmistakably japanese look has hinered my capacity for it.

Wiimotefan

What?  Amanos characters never really looked Japanese.  If anything, they looked like a bunch of French heroin addicts.

I've always felt like FF had various European influnece intertwined in them than anything else. Then XII's clothing, voice acting and art style really seemed to nail it.

Extremely excited, I had all but given up hope on FF but FFXV looks like a breathe of fresh air It seems to plays like Last story or KH which is not a bad thing, Just need a date and if its a launch title buying PS4 for it.

I honestly thought it looked really awesome.