Firmware (v.2.40) Walkthrough Part 2: Trophies

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Atleast with trophies you can compare what accomplishments you have unlocked with friends, instead of just comparing a number next to your gamertag on XBL

Player 1 has 8231 Achievement points
Player 2 has 213 Achievement points

Oh wow achievements are amazing -_- it wouldnt suprise me if M$ copied sony now and made it so you can actually see what you did to get your achievements

PS_John

Are you trying to get more attention again.. like you did with your old joke thread? When you're proved wrong.. AGAIN... are you just going to pull out the handy-dandy... "Oh-I-was-just-kidding" excuse?

You ARE wrong by the way. Just let me know, and I'll tell you exactly why.

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#52 CajunShooter
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Then I realised it aint even out yet :P lolBrainkiller05

Wait 2 days. :)

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#54 CAlNlAC
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This is great news. I wasn't expecting the update till during or after E3. Anyway, I really hope MGS4 will support the update, I want me some MGS trophies!
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#55 heretrix
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Atleast with trophies you can compare what accomplishments you have unlocked with friends, instead of just comparing a number next to your gamertag on XBL

Player 1 has 8231 Achievement points
Player 2 has 213 Achievement points

Oh wow achievements are amazing -_- it wouldnt suprise me if M$ copied sony now and made it so you can actually see what you did to get your achievements

PS_John

I guess that another thing that proves you never had a 360.

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#56 Millennium_King
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This is stupid. Every game should support trophies, not 7. This is a botched attempt, and they should have just put in-game XMB and left well enough alone. It looks like a fake 360 now.
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#57 CubanBlunt
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Why still all the hate, congratulate, not hate! 360fans, its really not a good look, all the hatin ya'll are doing.

Definition of a Hater = Some who hates to see someone do good! Jealousy, mad, pissed off!

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#58 VoodooHak
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[QUOTE="PS_John"]

Atleast with trophies you can compare what accomplishments you have unlocked with friends, instead of just comparing a number next to your gamertag on XBL

Player 1 has 8231 Achievement points
Player 2 has 213 Achievement points

Oh wow achievements are amazing -_- it wouldnt suprise me if M$ copied sony now and made it so you can actually see what you did to get your achievements

heretrix

I guess that another thing that proves you never had a 360.

Oh, what the heck. here goes:

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#59 p4ddym
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I wont be going crazy to get loads of trophies. I will be interested to see if the game devs put in half decent trophies. Some Xbox games achievments werent that good. Some had really cool ones. They will be the ones i would want to get.
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#60 PS_John
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[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

Atleast with trophies you can compare what accomplishments you have unlocked with friends, instead of just comparing a number next to your gamertag on XBL

Player 1 has 8231 Achievement points
Player 2 has 213 Achievement points

Oh wow achievements are amazing -_- it wouldnt suprise me if M$ copied sony now and made it so you can actually see what you did to get your achievements

VoodooHak

I guess that another thing that proves you never had a 360.

Oh, what the heck. here goes:

So what? With trophies you can compare them using your PS3, you don't have to get up and log onto a website to do it

Fail

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#62 kenshinhimura16
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So does that mean Cows think achievements are good now?

ReturnOfShinobi

No, I still think that they are a pathetic way of making people buy more games even if they are crap. Once a game like Avatar appears were you can get the trophies easily, and you will see what I mean. Sales wise and as a company imo its the best idea ever. But as a gamer, I just dont care. I will only get the ones for the games I like and I wont even work to get the hardest ones, cause it normally requires you to force yourself in finishing the game playing it in a way you may not like.

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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

Atleast with trophies you can compare what accomplishments you have unlocked with friends, instead of just comparing a number next to your gamertag on XBL

Player 1 has 8231 Achievement points
Player 2 has 213 Achievement points

Oh wow achievements are amazing -_- it wouldnt suprise me if M$ copied sony now and made it so you can actually see what you did to get your achievements

PS_John

I guess that another thing that proves you never had a 360.

Oh, what the heck. here goes:

So what? With trophies you can compare them using your PS3, you don't have to get up and log onto a website to do it

Fail

OMG. You really are the worst fakeboy on the entirety of system wars. :lol::lol::lol:

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#65 gingerdivid
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I always felt that achievements were unnecessary, but I was surprisingly smug when I managed to get some TF2 achievements on the PC. I'll be looking forward to seeing if Codemasters and Rockstar will patch Grid and GTA to add some challenging and amusing achievements.
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#66 PS_John
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Look I know why you probably think i dont own a 360, it's because whenever i go to play my 360 i get rrod :( i have had 8 now and the longest one lasted about a week but even then i was playing my PS3 instead

here is my current 360

i need 2 send it bk to M$

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#67 carlisledavid79
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PS_John dude lol. Theres isnt really a need to start this whole thing again.
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#68 fiercedeity901
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Look I know why you probably think i dont own a 360, it's because whenever i go to play my 360 i get rrod :( i have had 8 now and the longest one lasted was about a week but even then i was playing my PS3 instead

here is my current 360

i need 2 send it bk to M$

PS_John
WOW...a random pic of a RROD that can be found oh....almost anywhere on the internet dude...if u owned one, u would know that u could check other people achievements, but obviously not so u just owned urself and i'm only #2...so if ur on #8...ur bluffing like a mo'fo
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#69 Dreams-Visions
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Many Cows will learn to love Achievements.

Many of you hated because from a distance, you couldn't see what the fuss was about. But a casual glance at the system is not how you experience Achievement systems. It's almost like looking over the shoulder of someone playing World of Warcraft and expecting to understand why hours upon hours are devoted to that game. just by looking at it.

No, there's something to earning those achievements that make you play a game a little longer than you might initially have.

Well...until that wears off.

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#70 Albanian_Killa
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IMO Trophies > Achievements ;)PS_John

:lol: He's back!

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Look I know why you probably think i dont own a 360, it's because whenever i go to play my 360 i get rrod :( i have had 8 now and the longest one lasted about a week but even then i was playing my PS3 instead

PS_John

I know that you created PS John just for your joke thread from earlier. What's your real gamertag?

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Atleast with trophies you can compare what accomplishments you have unlocked with friends, instead of just comparing a number next to your gamertag on XBL

Player 1 has 8231 Achievement points
Player 2 has 213 Achievement points

Oh wow achievements are amazing -_- it wouldnt suprise me if M$ copied sony now and made it so you can actually see what you did to get your achievements

PS_John
For some one to have claimed to own an Xbox 360. Surely you know that you can compare individual achievements with some one over XBL. Surely you knew this.
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#73 waynehead895
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Look I know why you probably think i dont own a 360, it's because whenever i go to play my 360 i get rrod :( i have had 8 now and the longest one lasted about a week but even then i was playing my PS3 instead

here is my current 360

i need 2 send it bk to M$

PS_John

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's not even the RROD. It's only supposed to be three lights.

Gotcha before you could edit the picture.

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#74 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="PS_John"][QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

Atleast with trophies you can compare what accomplishments you have unlocked with friends, instead of just comparing a number next to your gamertag on XBL

Player 1 has 8231 Achievement points
Player 2 has 213 Achievement points

Oh wow achievements are amazing -_- it wouldnt suprise me if M$ copied sony now and made it so you can actually see what you did to get your achievements

KodiakGTS

I guess that another thing that proves you never had a 360.

Oh, what the heck. here goes:

So what? With trophies you can compare them using your PS3, you don't have to get up and log onto a website to do it

Fail

OMG. You really are the worst fakeboy on the entirety of system wars. :lol::lol::lol:

Surely he wasn't serious with that comment.

Nobody that owns a 360 and has played on LIVE for a couple of days would say such a thing.

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#75 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="PS_John"]

Look I know why you probably think i dont own a 360, it's because whenever i go to play my 360 i get rrod :( i have had 8 now and the longest one lasted about a week but even then i was playing my PS3 instead

here is my current 360

i need 2 send it bk to M$

waynehead895

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's not even the RROD. It's only supposed to be three lights.

Gotcha before you could edit the picture.

Yea, 4 red lights means the A/V plug in the back is disconnected, as i recall.
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#76 PS_John
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:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's not even the RROD. It's only supposed to be three lights.

Gotcha before you could edit the picture.

waynehead895

Err yes it is.. Why would it be called RROD if it was only 3 lights? It wouldnt be a complete ring then -_-

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#78 VoodooHak
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[QUOTE="waynehead895"]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's not even the RROD. It's only supposed to be three lights.

Gotcha before you could edit the picture.

PS_John

Err yes it is.. Why would it be called RROD if it was only 3 lights? It wouldnt be a complete ring then -_-

http://www.llamma.com/xbox360/repair/Xbox-360-error-codes.htm

So this is getting really old. You're obviously just kidding or really are that thick.

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#79 rockguy92
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[QUOTE="waynehead895"]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's not even the RROD. It's only supposed to be three lights.

Gotcha before you could edit the picture.

PS_John

Err yes it is.. Why would it be called RROD if it was only 3 lights? It wouldnt be a complete ring then -_-

Wow.

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#80 carlisledavid79
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Everyone knows PS_John isnt being serious.

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#81 Cyberfairy
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lol, XBL really is a rip-off now. The only thing missing from PSN is cross-game chatting and that's not worth 50 bucks a year. Have fun with your service, lemmings!

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#82 Dreams-Visions
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lol, XBL really is a rip-off now. The only thing missing from PSN is cross-game chatting and that's not worth 50 bucks a year. Have fun with your service, lemmings!

Cyberfairy
agreed. it's over. release the floodgates and make it free, Microsoft.
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#83 VoodooHak
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lol, XBL really is a rip-off now. The only thing missing from PSN is cross-game chatting and that's not worth 50 bucks a year. Have fun with your service, lemmings!

Cyberfairy

PSN is also missing cross-game invites, auto-pause when you hit the PSbutton, Community Calendar, Community programs, a closed network that aggressively checks for modded consoles, a universal matchmaking system, and trophies being standard across all games.

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[QUOTE="Cyberfairy"]

lol, XBL really is a rip-off now. The only thing missing from PSN is cross-game chatting and that's not worth 50 bucks a year. Have fun with your service, lemmings!

VoodooHak

PSN is also missing cross-game invites, auto-pause when you hit the PSbutton, Community Calendar, Community programs, a closed network that aggressively checks for modded consoles, a universal matchmaking system, and trophies being standard across all games.

1. There's invite systems within a game. I can msg a friend "pop in COD4 and play w/ me". He comes, I invite him. In Warhawk and MGO, a friend can go to his friends list, click on me, and click "Join Game". These methods are for many many games. Even Rainbow Six has invites. Same with Splinter Cell Double Agent. Home is also going to do this. But it's already here. Cross-game though is just 2 seconds faster. I can msg a friend to come to my game, and he will come. Not worth $50.

2. When you hold the PS Button, it auto-pauses in 99% of games so I don't know what you're talking about. In-Game XMB doesn't auto-pause, but auto-pausing isn't worth $50 a year.

3. Community programs are coming with Home. I think Silver accounts get Community stuff, so really, Gold is still a rip off.

4. How do you know PSN doesn't check for modded consoles? PS3 hasn't even been hacked yet. That says a lot for the security. It still doesn't have a custom firmware. Games can't be illegally downloaded because they're so big, so piracy for PS3 is not a problem. Hell, in the 360, people were already running GTA IV online 1 week earlier. Says a lot for "Aggresively checking modded consoles".

5. Matchmaking sucks. Period. Server lists are superior. SOCOM, Warhawk, MGO have a superior system. Matchmaking is weak. No one should be glad matchmaking came to this universe. It sucks. However, TrueSkill only works for like a couple of games on 360 so really, COD4 matchmaking is the same in both consoles.

6. How do you know trophies won't be patched into old games. They said it themselves many titles will be receiving an update. If third party devs can make achievements, they'll make trophies. Trophies aren't out yet and you're already criticizing it :lol:

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#85 heretrix
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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="PS_John"]

Atleast with trophies you can compare what accomplishments you have unlocked with friends, instead of just comparing a number next to your gamertag on XBL

Player 1 has 8231 Achievement points
Player 2 has 213 Achievement points

Oh wow achievements are amazing -_- it wouldnt suprise me if M$ copied sony now and made it so you can actually see what you did to get your achievements

PS_John

I guess that another thing that proves you never had a 360.

Oh, what the heck. here goes:

So what? With trophies you can compare them using your PS3, you don't have to get up and log onto a website to do it

Fail

PS_John, Don't ever change.

:lol:

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#86 II-FBIsniper-II
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*sigh*

Please stop trying to turn this into another PS_John attention topic.

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#87 Antwan3K
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seems kinda lame, just doesnt feel right, achievements on 360 are much better, though they are lame as wellmingo123

lol.. someone should put this in their sig....

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#88 Heydanbud92
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thanks.

About the video, i don't think many people will care for this system, for one it doesn't show your score next to your name, which means no1 will look or care.

hongkingkong

yeah it does

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#89 Antwan3K
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[QUOTE="Cyberfairy"]

lol, XBL really is a rip-off now. The only thing missing from PSN is cross-game chatting and that's not worth 50 bucks a year. Have fun with your service, lemmings!

VoodooHak

PSN is also missing cross-game invites, auto-pause when you hit the PSbutton, Community Calendar, Community programs, a closed network that aggressively checks for modded consoles, a universal matchmaking system, and trophies being standard across all games.

in terms of those "communtiy features" you mentioned, say hello to PLAYSTATION HOME.. I'll take Home over a Community Calendar anyday...

"auto-pause" when you hit the PS Button?.. that's already here..

standard trophies?.. i understand that it may be hit-or-miss with titles that are already released but please believe that after after July 2nd, any 360 multiplat game that has acheivements will obviously have the trophy equalivant on the PS3 version aswell.. this will be across the board.. therefore it's "standard"...

just face it.. the gap between PSN and XBL is closing.. fast... and how about this standard PSN feature?: FREE ONLINE MULTIPLAYER.. what's XBL's answer to that?.. :?

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#90 heretrix
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just face it.. the gap between PSN and XBL is closing.. fast... and how about this standard PSN feature?: FREE ONLINE MULTIPLAYER.. what's XBL's answer to that?.. :?

Antwan3K
Fast? are you sure about that? it took them almost 2 years to get to "almost there" and HOME is nowhere in sight.
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#91 ReverseCycology
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In this article it says that games that are Trophy compatible **Requires a game update to be downloaded and installed. So does that mean every game that's Trophy compatible will take up more HDD space due to these installs, oh great.

http://kotaku.com/397437/list-of-first-ps3-trophy-supported-games

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#92 Cyberfairy
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In this article it says that games that are Trophy compatible **Requires a game update to be downloaded and installed. So does that mean every game that's Trophy compatible will take up more HDD space due to these installs, oh great.

http://kotaku.com/397437/list-of-first-ps3-trophy-supported-games

ReverseCycology

we're talking about some mb's now....

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#93 ELJUDEZ
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Nice TV.
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#94 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

In this article it says that games that are Trophy compatible **Requires a game update to be downloaded and installed. So does that mean every game that's Trophy compatible will take up more HDD space due to these installs, oh great.

http://kotaku.com/397437/list-of-first-ps3-trophy-supported-games

Cyberfairy

we're talking about some mb's now....

actually, we're probably talkin kilobites. unless those trophy images are high-res PNGs.
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#95 VoodooHak
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[QUOTE="VoodooHak"][QUOTE="Cyberfairy"]

lol, XBL really is a rip-off now. The only thing missing from PSN is cross-game chatting and that's not worth 50 bucks a year. Have fun with your service, lemmings!

Antwan3K

PSN is also missing cross-game invites, auto-pause when you hit the PSbutton, Community Calendar, Community programs, a closed network that aggressively checks for modded consoles, a universal matchmaking system, and trophies being standard across all games.

in terms of those "communtiy features" you mentioned, say hello to PLAYSTATION HOME.. I'll take Home over a Community Calendar anyday...

And Home is coming when? Public beta at the end of the year. If you want waiting over what's here now, then more power to you.

"auto-pause" when you hit the PS Button?.. that's already here..

What I meant was accessing the XMB. From the articles I've read, accessing the XMB does not pause your game. Is this no longer the case? Can someone confirm this for me?

standard trophies?.. i understand that it may be hit-or-miss with titles that are already released but please believe that after after July 2nd, any 360 multiplat game that has acheivements will obviously have the trophy equalivant on the PS3 version aswell.. this will be across the board.. therefore it's "standard"...

Standard on paper, but in practice, it's not. There is at least a year of games that will need to be retrofitted for trophies. I don't see it happening for all of them. And those that have been patched will have to be replayed to get the trophies if you've played them already.

just face it.. the gap between PSN and XBL is closing.. fast... and how about this standard PSN feature?: FREE ONLINE MULTIPLAYER.. what's XBL's answer to that?.. :?

It's closing... but fast? Not really. There's still features that are missing.

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#96 heretrix
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Nice TV.ELJUDEZ

Ain't it though. I have that exact same set. The Bravias are freaking awesome.

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#97 carlisledavid79
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In this article it says that games that are Trophy compatible **Requires a game update to be downloaded and installed. So does that mean every game that's Trophy compatible will take up more HDD space due to these installs, oh great.

http://kotaku.com/397437/list-of-first-ps3-trophy-supported-games

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RC I dont think the space required would be anything to worry about.

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#98 Antwan3K
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just face it.. the gap between PSN and XBL is closing.. fast... and how about this standard PSN feature?: FREE ONLINE MULTIPLAYER.. what's XBL's answer to that?.. :?

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Fast? are you sure about that? it took them almost 2 years to get to "almost there" and HOME is nowhere in sight.

i've enjoyed PSN from the moment i bought my PS3.. free online multiplayer, standard buddy lists and usernames, downloadable content and etc is all that the average gamer can ask for and a tremendous step above what was offered on PS2 Online.. and PSN has been providing that since day one for free.. anything beyond that, was just "bragging rights" for the lemmings so that ehy could justify the $50 a year pricetag for their online multiplayer.. and sure, it has taken almost 2 years for PSN to get on the same page with XBL, but the time is now.. if you want to daydream about wat was happening 2 years ago, then go ahead.. have fun.. but the rest of us will be enjoying an online service that's on par with XBL Gold but without the yearly subscription....

and i wouldnt exactly call an 2008 release for Home as "nowhere in sight".. it's already nearly July 08.. i guess that means Gear of War 2 is also "nowhere in sight" since it's releasing later this year....

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#99 DarkyC
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Some people complaints will never cease to amaze me. No auto-pause? Guess what, even before this some games don't auto pause, some do, it's up to the devs if tey want it. No one ever complained. And btw, auto-pause won't help you if you're playing online.

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#100 ReverseCycology
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Did they mention anything about you being able to view anyone's Achievements, I mean, Trophies and not just people on your friend's list and do it during the game?