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#1 dreman999
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7/10

http://rpgland.com/games/reviews/final-fantasy-xiii-japanese/

"Final Fantasy XIII is going to be remembered by many for what it isn't and what it doesn't do. The game as a whole is worth playing, carried by its excellent battle system, engrossing visuals, unique sty le, and excellent all-around attention to detail. Its attempt to streamline the RPG experience to make way for a cinematic, story-driven experience is probably going to be looked down upon, especially since the story itself suffers from missteps. Players who can not let go of the fact that Final Fantasy XIII removes certain RPG conventions are going to have a rough hurdle to get over to enjoy the game. Players who are willing to let watery manga-esque stories and linearity slide are going to be free to enjoy the game's high points, which are very high indeed."

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#2 wolverine4262
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ugh, why did I pre-order? I guess itll still be fun....
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#3 deactivated-5d6e91f5c147a
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Still looking forward to it.
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#4 the-obiwan
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7/10 huh i didnt expected that o-o
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#5 rolo107
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Hm... That sucks. I actually rather like their reviews, although they sometimes overpraise a bit, or underpraise, but normally they are right.
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#6 z4twenny
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im not surprised. ive been saying for awhile this is going to happen and unless they take a drastic turn on FF15 then you can expect it to become an action platformer in 3-4 more iterations.

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#7 reyad-u
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I think I'll be picking this one up once it gets cheaper, then again I never intended to pick this one up straight away.
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#8 TheEroica  Moderator
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They lost me at "chocobo living in characters afro". Sorry, but until japan decides to tell an actual story worthy of my money, I'll pass.

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#9 nintendo-4life
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it's not a 7/10. Read the score yourself, you'll be surprised
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#10 PPresentFortune
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I didn't expect any higher TBH, I lost interest in this game a long time ago, when the graphics were given blatantly obvious downgrades every time they released a new video, it was as if they were hoping we wouldn't notice, this is the Internet people, we can just look for the older videos and easily find them to be compared with the newer ones, also the gameplay looks boring like previous installments in the series (Final Fantasy XI, Final Fantasy XII), I for one will certainly not be buying it.

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#11 Regisland
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I dont care...people hated ff xii and it was one of my fav,if not my fav, game of the ps2.

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#12 TheEroica  Moderator
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it's not a 7/10. Read the score yourself, you'll be surprised nintendo-4life

um despite what the review says (which I agree is the most important part) something compelled them to give the game a 7...

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#13 Shirokishi_
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Doesnt shake me, still getting it.

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#14 Vaasman
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it's not a 7/10. Read the score yourself, you'll be surprised nintendo-4life
It says right at the bottom it got a 7, and it also says right there it's out of 10, though I understand the confusion because it should really just flat out say 7/10.

Personally I'm not surprised, after I saw that article on the myriad on complaints coming in on the game.

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#15 sonicthemegaman
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Good sign. If the game is actually reviewed rather than overhyped like a lot of these "amazing" games, then it means a FF game will finally get scored instead of just hyped up. This might be the one of the first FF gams to not fall into the overrated category. Nice to see a FF game finally get actual criticism for a change. The more logical the ratings are, the more enjoyable the game will be. Might have to look into this one.
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#16 shutdown_202
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I think im finally starting to see what hakumono's being saying all along. The FF fanbase truly are the worst.

It pains me to see people destroy FF13 and complain about things that were greatly highlighted in FF12. Just that would be fine, but then you have to remember just how badly FF12 is trashed (IMO the worst of all games). This also proves what ive been saying for a while which is you should NEVER listen to the fanbase, because they dont know what they want. FF13 is squares answer to fans complaint, but apparently its not what they want.

Im not saying this in regards to the review but more so the general scope of whats been said on 13. Regardless of all that everything ive seen of the game so far is exactly what i want. Absoloutely cannot wait.

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#17 sonicthemegaman
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They lost me at "chocobo living in characters afro". Sorry, but until japan decides to tell an actual story worthy of my money, I'll pass.

TheEroica
As someone who plays JRPGs, I can assure that will probably never happen. JRPGs simply don't have great stories. It's either decent or god awful.
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#18 nervmeister
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In b4 cows blame 360
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#19 deactivated-598fc45371265
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I blame the 360.

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I didn't expect any higher TBH, I lost interest in this game a long time ago, when the graphics were given blatantly obvious downgrades every time they released a new video, it was as if they were hoping we wouldn't notice, this is the Internet people, we can just look for the older videos and easily find them to be compared with the newer ones, also the gameplay looks boring like previous installments in the series (Final Fantasy XI, Final Fantasy XII), I for one will certainly not be buying it.

PPresentFortune
They didnt actually downgrade the graphics, there was some confusion with the trailers. Here in the west we got a video with older graphics after a new on shown privately at TGS... I dont know the full story but apperently this was spread and proved wrong
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]it's not a 7/10. Read the score yourself, you'll be surprised Vaasman

It says right at the bottom it got a 7, and it also says right there it's out of 10, though I understand the confusion because it should really just flat out say 7/10.

Personally I'm not surprised, after I saw that article on the myriad on complaints coming in on the game.

DAMMIT didn't see the yellow reading, I just saw the "very good" out of 10 and I was like WTF? :|
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#22 nervmeister
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I blame the 360.

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LOL. I made it just in time. :P
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#23 deactivated-598fc45371265
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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"]it's not a 7/10. Read the score yourself, you'll be surprised nintendo-4life

It says right at the bottom it got a 7, and it also says right there it's out of 10, though I understand the confusion because it should really just flat out say 7/10.

Personally I'm not surprised, after I saw that article on the myriad on complaints coming in on the game.

DAMMIT didn't see the yellow reading, I just saw the "very good" out of 10 and I was like WTF? :|

Depending on the site. 7\10 could mean one thing...or several. :o

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#24 deactivated-598fc45371265
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

I blame the 360.

nervmeister

LOL. I made it just in time. :P

You mean I made it just in time.

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#25 Odrec
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[QUOTE="PPresentFortune"]

I didn't expect any higher TBH, I lost interest in this game a long time ago, when the graphics were given blatantly obvious downgrades every time they released a new video, it was as if they were hoping we wouldn't notice, this is the Internet people, we can just look for the older videos and easily find them to be compared with the newer ones, also the gameplay looks boring like previous installments in the series (Final Fantasy XI, Final Fantasy XII), I for one will certainly not be buying it.

Flipyap28
They didnt actually downgrade the graphics, there was some confusion with the trailers. Here in the west we got a video with older graphics after a new on shown privately at TGS... I dont know the full story but apperently this was spread and proved wrong

I think Square acknowledged that the graphics were downgraded a little bit although they called it chage. The difference between screenshots were real as far as I know and the poorer was a later build.
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#26 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

I blame the 360.

LOL. I made it just in time. :P

You mean I made it just in time.

Well, if you had said "I blame 360" before I posted the "in b4..." thing, you would've rendered my statement invalid. But, luckily, I just barely made it (only one post before yours).
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#27 HAZE-Unit
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Their awful opinion, I don't care as I have it and Im fully enjoying the game, definitely a triple A material.

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#28 deactivated-598fc45371265
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"] LOL. I made it just in time. :Pnervmeister

You mean I made it just in time.

Well, if you had said "I blame 360" before I posted the "in b4..." thing, you would've rendered my statement invalid. But, luckily, I just barely made it (only one post before yours).

It was my posting skill that enabled me totime my post directly below yours. Thus making both of ourcomments mildly amusing.

...Furthermore! I would not have posted had you not posted! :o So you couldn't have done it just in time evenif you wanted to.

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#29 enterawesome
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Ooooh... Ouch. That... really sucks.
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#30 FlamesOfGrey
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From my 30+ hours in, it's a solid 9/10. Good thing I don't trust reviews.
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#31 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

You mean I made it just in time.

Well, if you had said "I blame 360" before I posted the "in b4..." thing, you would've rendered my statement invalid. But, luckily, I just barely made it (only one post before yours).

It was my posting skill that enabled me to have my post directly below yours. Thus making both comments mildly amusing.

Ah! Now I get it. Amazing timing on your part then. **hands Storm Marine a cookie** :P
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#32 360BandW
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ah what i expected, JRPG's just arent big in NA nowadays.
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#33 mD-
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I feel that this will be a very enjoyable game, but have a feeling that a lot of people (like me) will go through playing and realize it's just missing something (except I actually know what's missing). Honestly from all that I have been reading about the game, it seems like if they took FFX and replaced it with the FF13 combat gameplay and used the white engine that FF13, FFX would be a better game than FF13.

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#34 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

...Furthermore! I would not have posted had you not posted! :o So you couldn't have done it just in time evenif you wanted to.

I guess that makes sense. **nods**
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#35 Brainhunter
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These guys are the same ones who gave Star Ocean- The Last Hope on 360 a 9 out of 10. I wouldn't be so quick to confirm someone else's opinion as fact, especially when it comes to RPGs, as the experience is heavily subjective.
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#36 BattleTurtles
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This was already posted once or twice. I don't really
[QUOTE="TheEroica"]

They lost me at "chocobo living in characters afro". Sorry, but until japan decides to tell an actual story worthy of my money, I'll pass.

sonicthemegaman
As someone who plays JRPGs, I can assure that will probably never happen. JRPGs simply don't have great stories. It's either decent or god awful.

Xenogears Mother 3 Earthbound Chrono Trigger( to an extent) FFIV Those all had great stories imo
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[QUOTE="Brainhunter"]These guys are the same ones who gave Star Ocean- The Last Hope on 360 a 9 out of 10. I wouldn't be so quick to confirm someone else's opinion as fact, especially when it comes to RPGs, as the experience is heavily subjective.

Was it the same reviewer?
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#38 Brainhunter
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[QUOTE="BattleTurtles"][QUOTE="Brainhunter"]These guys are the same ones who gave Star Ocean- The Last Hope on 360 a 9 out of 10. I wouldn't be so quick to confirm someone else's opinion as fact, especially when it comes to RPGs, as the experience is heavily subjective.

Was it the same reviewer?

Does it matter? Do we selectively pick the reviewers in our favour, leaving out those going against our preconceptions of a game? Or do we look at the overall package, get a feel for the game, and formulate our own opinion once the full english retail release comes worldwide? Overall feeback from legitimate japanese players indicate a great reception to the game's overall experience. There will ALWAYS be a dime in a dozen who are dissatisfied with the final product, especially when its Final Fantasy, and especially when it detracts too heavily from the FF formula (See FFXII reception).
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#39 DevilMightCry
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They lost me at "chocobo living in characters afro". Sorry, but until japan decides to tell an actual story worthy of my money, I'll pass.

TheEroica
I'm saving my money for a better RPG, namely Mass Effect 2
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#40 Megaman5364
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I'm still going to definetly buy this, Hi Def FF, YES PLEZ!!

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#41 Odrec
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I'm gonna wait for FF Versus. PS3 exclusives have been flawless lately so I'm pretty sure it's going to be the better game.
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#42 _BlueDuck_
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Uh oh, looks like Square finally caught the casual-gaming fever!

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#43 Wings_008
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some Japnaese Magazene gave it 39/40 so it's not that bad...
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#44 BattleTurtles
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[QUOTE="Wings_008"]some Japnaese Magazene gave it 39/40 so it's not that bad...

Famitsu gave FFXII a 40/40. And that game was bad to say the least.
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#45 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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Good sign. If the game is actually reviewed rather than overhyped like a lot of these "amazing" games, then it means a FF game will finally get scored instead of just hyped up. This might be the one of the first FF gams to not fall into the overrated category. Nice to see a FF game finally get actual criticism for a change. The more logical the ratings are, the more enjoyable the game will be. Might have to look into this one.sonicthemegaman

so you are more interested in the game because it got a lower score from a website? Is it opposite day?

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Very Good/ 10. Very Good could be an 8.
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#47 BattleTurtles
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[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]Very Good/ 10. Very Good could be an 8.

Or a 7
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#48 smithsont
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Very Good/ 10. Very Good could be an 8.XenogearsMaster

Very good is actually a 7....it says so on their review criteria link that is clickable on every review I've seen on the site.

"7Very good. It's like a 6, but significantly stronger in key areas."

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#49 Tragic_Kingdom7
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Their awful opinion, I don't care as I have it and Im fully enjoying the game, definitely a triple A material.

HAZE-Unit

Why exactlyis their opinion awful? Whatever the score, I thought that was an extremely well-written review.

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[QUOTE="sonicthemegaman"]Good sign. If the game is actually reviewed rather than overhyped like a lot of these "amazing" games, then it means a FF game will finally get scored instead of just hyped up. This might be the one of the first FF gams to not fall into the overrated category. Nice to see a FF game finally get actual criticism for a change. The more logical the ratings are, the more enjoyable the game will be. Might have to look into this one.jimkabrhel

so you are more interested in the game because it got a lower score from a website? Is it opposite day?

It seems weird, but I actually get what sonicthemegaman is saying.

I was totally opposed to buying this because I disliked FFX and this one sounds just like it, but the balance in this review actually made me interested in the high points that they talked about in spite of my dislike for FFX-style linearity. If a reviewer seems like they aren't glossing over the negative points of a game, it makes one trust the reviewer more when they talk about the positives.