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#51 Chaos_HL21
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"][QUOTE="Killfox"]

[QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]Length shouldn't be as big of a factor if the quality is there. I think this will be a love-it-or-hate-it type of game, but since I dig hack-n-slash gammes, I'm sure I'll fall into the love it category.Killfox

I like to get more out of $60 than a 10 hour game.

I beat Crysis in less than 10 hours and it was $50.

Sandbox editor FTW. Plus you can play the game multiple times because its your choice to sneak or be as loud as you can with guns a blazing. I dont play online but atleast it does have online.

You can replay Too Human, it is 10 hours if you rush. Also I think Too Human has co-op, so Too Human has online too.

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#52 JediRiff
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[QUOTE="vicmackey39"]soon lemmings. Prepare to be ownedsubrosian

What lemmings have hyped this game? It has only been hyped by true gamers - fanboys have been running scared since day one, fearing a flop (or cheering for one - in the case of non-360 fans). Only genuine gamers would stick by a game like Too Human.

Consider me glued, then. I have preordered the game, and I am very excited about it.

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#53 SecretPolice
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Just one characters skill tree- watch, listen & learn.

http://gametab.com/news/2633726/

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#54 stiltzsy
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When did too human become an RPG?
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#55 vicmackey39
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What lemmings have hyped this game? It has only been hyped by true gamers - fanboys have been running scared since day one, fearing a flop (or cheering for one - in the case of non-360 fans). Only genuine gamers would stick by a game like Too Human.

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You, Bioshockownz and Dreams-Visions

Ironically some of the most literate and sensible posters on system wars(under normal circumstances)

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#56 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Alot of people stated that Mass Effects campaign was "short", too, but my first playthrough took me about 120 hours. Thats because I leave no stone unturned, and dont rush it. I like to explore RPGs as completely as I can. This "slam through in 10 hours" will more than likely have me hitting the 100 hour hash mark when I get done exploring the heck out of it. :D

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^^^ i'm the same way in a game, I have to explore every nook and cranny. The reviewers seemed to suggest that there was more RPG elements to this game than I had first thought, so I'm actually more hyped for this game now than I was (PBSnipes will be pleased!)
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#57 horrowhip
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When did too human become an RPG?stiltzsy

since forever...

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#58 Killfox
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[QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="horrowhip"]

Ok... people complaining about 10 hours need to shut up.

Mass Effect's storyline could be finished in 7-8 hours quite easily.

Oblivion's could be finished in 4-5 hours easily.

Diablo and Diablo II were short if you just ran through the storyline.

The only recent WRPG whose STORYLINE(meaning ignoring all exploring and all side-quests) was 10 hours or more was The Witcher, and that was largely because it was based off of a book.

horrowhip

So inform me then. Are there going to be a bunch of side missions like Mass Effect??? Because in not even close to being done with ME and I have already put 12-15 hours into it.

yes.

And there is the whole looting and leveling up.

This game has a similar structure of gameplay to Diablo. And to put it simply, despite having a very short storyline, it is quite easy to waste 1000 hours on Diablo.

does it have co op and online???

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#59 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="horrowhip"]

Ok... people complaining about 10 hours need to shut up.

Mass Effect's storyline could be finished in 7-8 hours quite easily.

Oblivion's could be finished in 4-5 hours easily.

Diablo and Diablo II were short if you just ran through the storyline.

The only recent WRPG whose STORYLINE(meaning ignoring all exploring and all side-quests) was 10 hours or more was The Witcher, and that was largely because it was based off of a book.

Killfox

So inform me then. Are there going to be a bunch of side missions like Mass Effect??? Because in not even close to being done with ME and I have already put 12-15 hours into it.

yes.

And there is the whole looting and leveling up.

This game has a similar structure of gameplay to Diablo. And to put it simply, despite having a very short storyline, it is quite easy to waste 1000 hours on Diablo.

does it have co op and online???

originally it was 4 player co-op now i think its 2
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WHy not show the MTVmultiplayer blot hands on as well.

2 different opinions. He felt the gameplay was actually very good and the story very well told. The thing about this game is it feels so niche.

Which Eternal Darkness was .It was a niche game. It never had the flash of and speed of an RE 4 in terms of combat. Or the sheer off the charts horror of silent hill and condemned. But it was still creappy amtospheric, and all around great.

I'm not calling Too Human the next Eternal Darkness(F'ing amazing game) but a very good one. Even the hands on doesn't say it bored him. Or it sucked or it felt average.

It just didn't feel AAA like Halo 3 or a Gears. OR a game that appealed to the 360s "crowd"

The 10 hour is a speed run or just a ignore everything and play it action sty1e run. Like Masss Effect. 12 hours if you stick to the linear story. way more than that if you go for the extras.

And the replay value with how more things are unlocked as you go along, the different gameplay elements of clas-ses, the coop, etc

Also it's biggest flaw is a cliffhanger ending. And its only a huge flaw because the story telling and narrative was very good in the first place. You guys are expecting a 4 or a 5.

Im expecting an 8.0

7.0 at worst. and even then it sounds like a good game.

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#62 JediRiff
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[QUOTE="Killfox"]

[QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]Length shouldn't be as big of a factor if the quality is there. I think this will be a love-it-or-hate-it type of game, but since I dig hack-n-slash gammes, I'm sure I'll fall into the love it category.thepwninator

I like to get more out of $60 than a 10 hour game.

Just because you *can* beat it in ten hours doesn't mean you *will*. You *can* beat Diablo 2 in about 8, but that doesn't mean you *won't* spend hundreds of hours getting all the phat lewtz.

As I already said, this guy said "if you are so inclined". That pretty much equates to "speed run". Speed runs are *not* indicative of the full game's true length.

Nor can you truly enjoy a game if you speed run through it. Why would you play something like that? I can see it if you have played the game so many times you just wanted to see if you could do it, but to buy a new game and not give it the chance to do its job for you is just.... sad.

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#63 darthogre
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Too Human is 10 hours is like saying Halo 3 is 10 hours yet almost a year later millions are still playing. :roll:

"leaves before the ignorance of previewer rubs off "

SecretPolice

So it's offical.....you guys are then hyping it to be as big as Halo then?

See I'm confused when talking to the Too Human fans.......it's hyped like AAA GOTY blockbuster, but when push comes to shove everyone goes "well maybe AA".

Either it's a big game or not. You can't use Halo 3's name in comparison to this game if you think it's not going to be AAA. I think KZ2 should be AAA from what I've seen, if it's not it flopped IMO....see wasn't that easy? Just like Uncharted flopped in my eyes, it was really hyped AAA but cows backed out because of fear.

I don't really understand this lately....why do people care if a game flopped or not? If you think it's going to be great, state so. Does getting system wars "owned" suddenly mean your life is over?

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#64 jg4xchamp
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So I guess we can put it as-

Jg4xchamp, Subrosian, PBS SNipes, Bioshock Ownz, Dream Visions are probably the only ones in this thread or on this board(system wars) that are hyping or defending this game with valid reasons.

While everyone else is expecting a flop.
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#65 stiltzsy
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[QUOTE="stiltzsy"]When did too human become an RPG?horrowhip

since forever...

Funny after reading silcon knights site about the game it doesn't mention RPG at all (at least not that I could see). But it does call it a "The next-generation third-person epic action-game from famed developer Silicon Knights"

Some other places say it has deep RPG elements, but that does NOT make it an RPG.

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So I guess we can put it as-

Jg4xchamp, Subrosian, PBS SNipes, Bioshock Ownz, Dream Visions are probably the only ones in this thread or on this board(system wars) that are hyping or defending this game with valid reasons.

While everyone else is expecting a flop.jg4xchamp

You forgot Secretpolice- and myself, we have stood behind this game since day 1.

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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Too Human is 10 hours is like saying Halo 3 is 10 hours yet almost a year later millions are still playing. :roll:

"leaves before the ignorance of previewer rubs off "

darthogre

So it's offical.....you guys are then hyping it to be as big as Halo then?

See I'm confused when talking to the Too Human fans.......it's hyped like AAA GOTY blockbuster, but when push comes to shove everyone goes "well maybe AA".

Either it's a big game or not. You can't use Halo 3's name in comparison to this game if you think it's not going to be AAA. I think KZ2 should be AAA from what I've seen, if it's not it flopped IMO....see wasn't that easy? Just like Uncharted flopped in my eyes, it was really hyped AAA but cows backed out because of fear.

I don't really understand this lately....why do people care if a game flopped or not? If you think it's going to be great, state so. Does getting system wars "owned" suddenly mean your life is over?

You should work for FoxNews. You know how to misunderstand things. He used Halo as an example of how "short games" can be played even months after. Nobody said it will be as big as Halo, or did he? No.

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#68 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Too Human is 10 hours is like saying Halo 3 is 10 hours yet almost a year later millions are still playing. :roll:

"leaves before the ignorance of previewer rubs off "

darthogre

So it's offical.....you guys are then hyping it to be as big as Halo then?

See I'm confused when talking to the Too Human fans.......it's hyped like AAA GOTY blockbuster, but when push comes to shove everyone goes "well maybe AA".

Either it's a big game or not. You can't use Halo 3's name in comparison to this game if you think it's not going to be AAA. I think KZ2 should be AAA from what I've seen, if it's not it flopped IMO....see wasn't that easy? Just like Uncharted flopped in my eyes, it was really hyped AAA but cows backed out because of fear.

I don't really understand this lately....why do people care if a game flopped or not? If you think it's going to be great, state so. Does getting system wars "owned" suddenly mean your life is over?

Quite a stretch from what I said. :?

This game for me will be played at this time next year - clear as mud now I hope.

Again, Watch, Listen & Learn !

http://gametab.com/news/2633726/

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So I guess we can put it as-

Jg4xchamp, Subrosian, PBS SNipes, Bioshock Ownz, Dream Visions are probably the only ones in this thread or on this board(system wars) that are hyping or defending this game with valid reasons.

While everyone else is expecting a flop.jg4xchamp
I'm predicting AA how is that a flop? I've always maintaned that it isn't AAA. Considering 2 of my favourite games this gen on the 360 (Mass Effect and Dead Rising) also got AA I don't see how that bashing the game or "flopping" it.
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Too Human is 10 hours is like saying Halo 3 is 10 hours yet almost a year later millions are still playing. :roll:

"leaves before the ignorance of previewer rubs off "

darthogre

So it's offical.....you guys are then hyping it to be as big as Halo then?

See I'm confused when talking to the Too Human fans.......it's hyped like AAA GOTY blockbuster, but when push comes to shove everyone goes "well maybe AA".

Either it's a big game or not. You can't use Halo 3's name in comparison to this game if you think it's not going to be AAA. I think KZ2 should be AAA from what I've seen, if it's not it flopped IMO....see wasn't that easy? Just like Uncharted flopped in my eyes, it was really hyped AAA but cows backed out because of fear.

I don't really understand this lately....why do people care if a game flopped or not? If you think it's going to be great, state so. Does getting system wars "owned" suddenly mean your life is over?

No one said that.:| Wow!

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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Too Human is 10 hours is like saying Halo 3 is 10 hours yet almost a year later millions are still playing. :roll:

"leaves before the ignorance of previewer rubs off "

darthogre

So it's offical.....you guys are then hyping it to be as big as Halo then?

See I'm confused when talking to the Too Human fans.......it's hyped like AAA GOTY blockbuster, but when push comes to shove everyone goes "well maybe AA".

Either it's a big game or not. You can't use Halo 3's name in comparison to this game if you think it's not going to be AAA. I think KZ2 should be AAA from what I've seen, if it's not it flopped IMO....see wasn't that easy? Just like Uncharted flopped in my eyes, it was really hyped AAA but cows backed out because of fear.

I don't really understand this lately....why do people care if a game flopped or not? If you think it's going to be great, state so. Does getting system wars "owned" suddenly mean your life is over?

You see, they are not hyping it as GotY. They are hyping it as their personal GotY. Review scores don't mean everything, you know; Deus Ex got an 8.6, but it's my favorite game of all time; System Shock 2, my third favorite game, got an 8.2. Many people's tastes differ significantly from those of the reviewers.

Also, no one said it would ever be as big as Halo.

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So I guess we can put it as-

Jg4xchamp, Subrosian, PBS SNipes, Bioshock Ownz, Dream Visions are probably the only ones in this thread or on this board(system wars) that are hyping or defending this game with valid reasons.

While everyone else is expecting a flop.jg4xchamp

Don't forget me!

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#73 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Too Human is 10 hours is like saying Halo 3 is 10 hours yet almost a year later millions are still playing. :roll:

"leaves before the ignorance of previewer rubs off "

thepwninator

So it's offical.....you guys are then hyping it to be as big as Halo then?

See I'm confused when talking to the Too Human fans.......it's hyped like AAA GOTY blockbuster, but when push comes to shove everyone goes "well maybe AA".

Either it's a big game or not. You can't use Halo 3's name in comparison to this game if you think it's not going to be AAA. I think KZ2 should be AAA from what I've seen, if it's not it flopped IMO....see wasn't that easy? Just like Uncharted flopped in my eyes, it was really hyped AAA but cows backed out because of fear.

I don't really understand this lately....why do people care if a game flopped or not? If you think it's going to be great, state so. Does getting system wars "owned" suddenly mean your life is over?

You see, they are not hyping it as GotY. They are hyping it as their personal GotY. Review scores don't mean everything, you know; Deus Ex got an 8.6, but it's my favorite game of all time; System Shock 2, my third favorite game, got an 8.2. Many people's tastes differ significantly from those of the reviewers.

I'm not even hyping it as my personal GOTY. That'd be LBP or Clear Sky, but Too Human isn't too far behind.

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[QUOTE="thepwninator"][QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Too Human is 10 hours is like saying Halo 3 is 10 hours yet almost a year later millions are still playing. :roll:

"leaves before the ignorance of previewer rubs off "

BioShockOwnz

So it's offical.....you guys are then hyping it to be as big as Halo then?

See I'm confused when talking to the Too Human fans.......it's hyped like AAA GOTY blockbuster, but when push comes to shove everyone goes "well maybe AA".

Either it's a big game or not. You can't use Halo 3's name in comparison to this game if you think it's not going to be AAA. I think KZ2 should be AAA from what I've seen, if it's not it flopped IMO....see wasn't that easy? Just like Uncharted flopped in my eyes, it was really hyped AAA but cows backed out because of fear.

I don't really understand this lately....why do people care if a game flopped or not? If you think it's going to be great, state so. Does getting system wars "owned" suddenly mean your life is over?

You see, they are not hyping it as GotY. They are hyping it as their personal GotY. Review scores don't mean everything, you know; Deus Ex got an 8.6, but it's my favorite game of all time; System Shock 2, my third favorite game, got an 8.2. Many people's tastes differ significantly from those of the reviewers.

I'm not even hyping it as my personal GOTY. That'd be LBP or Clear Sky, but Too Human isn't too far behind.

I was speaking about myself in a plural third person :)

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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]So I guess we can put it as-

Jg4xchamp, Subrosian, PBS SNipes, Bioshock Ownz, Dream Visions are probably the only ones in this thread or on this board(system wars) that are hyping or defending this game with valid reasons.

While everyone else is expecting a flop.blue_hazy_basic
I'm predicting AA how is that a flop? I've always maintaned that it isn't AAA. Considering 2 of my favourite games this gen on the 360 (Mass Effect and Dead Rising) also got AA I don't see how that bashing the game or "flopping" it.

If it ends up AA, then it's the complete opposite of a flop, because the majority of SW's has dumped on this game from day one.

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#76 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Too Human is 10 hours is like saying Halo 3 is 10 hours yet almost a year later millions are still playing. :roll:

"leaves before the ignorance of previewer rubs off "

darthogre

So it's offical.....you guys are then hyping it to be as big as Halo then?

See I'm confused when talking to the Too Human fans.......it's hyped like AAA GOTY blockbuster, but when push comes to shove everyone goes "well maybe AA".

Either it's a big game or not. You can't use Halo 3's name in comparison to this game if you think it's not going to be AAA. I think KZ2 should be AAA from what I've seen, if it's not it flopped IMO....see wasn't that easy? Just like Uncharted flopped in my eyes, it was really hyped AAA but cows backed out because of fear.

I don't really understand this lately....why do people care if a game flopped or not? If you think it's going to be great, state so. Does getting system wars "owned" suddenly mean your life is over?

What? Nobody has put it on halo level. and nobody hyped this AAA. People hyped this to be a good game. You know what good is?

Good. Most people have been hyping AA like they hyped Lost Odyssey(flopped), like they hyped PGR 4(got AA), which they hyped eternal sonota(got AA)

And he used in the sense of people saying "its only 10 hours" refering to the halo campaign(which is actually less) and not mentioning all the other content.

Too Human is 10 hours if you skip all the side quests and extras. and then so much more gets unlocked after your first playthrough.


and all this Hype>?

no Ninja Gaiden 2 was hyped AAA(which it should have been)

Gears of War 2 is hyped AAA(sorry lemms shouldn't be allowed to say AA only)

The Too Human hype has only been that it is part of a great list of exclusives coming to the 360 this year. DOes that mean Lemmings are suddenly hyping Viva Pinata 2, Infintie Undiscoverey, Tales of Vesperia, Last Remnant(timed) all AAA. No. It just means they are hyping them to atleast be good. and Good by this boards standards(to atleast make the official AAA and AA list) is AA.

If this game gets a 7 it is a flop. If it gets an 8 than it met the hype. anything over, than it stuns the crowd(no more heroes)
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#77 TheNuyorican
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Too Human is about re-play, not rushing through. It's technically possible to beat Mass Effect in under five hours \

subrosian

No. I've beaten Mass Effect five times already, speed run on my last two and it was nowhere near 5. Stop exaggerating.

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#78 JediRiff
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]So I guess we can put it as-

Jg4xchamp, Subrosian, PBS SNipes, Bioshock Ownz, Dream Visions are probably the only ones in this thread or on this board(system wars) that are hyping or defending this game with valid reasons.

While everyone else is expecting a flop.spinecaton

You forgot Secretpolice- and myself, we have stood behind this game since day 1.

May as well add me to the list as well. And I am going to predict its score right now....

FFM.

Fun For Me. The best score of all. :D

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#79 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]So I guess we can put it as-

Jg4xchamp, Subrosian, PBS SNipes, Bioshock Ownz, Dream Visions are probably the only ones in this thread or on this board(system wars) that are hyping or defending this game with valid reasons.

While everyone else is expecting a flop.blue_hazy_basic
I'm predicting AA how is that a flop? I've always maintaned that it isn't AAA. Considering 2 of my favourite games this gen on the 360 (Mass Effect and Dead Rising) also got AA I don't see how that bashing the game or "flopping" it.

im sorry I didn't want rib on you dude.

Its just general consense. THose that are hyping with some valid reasons are actually just that.

Teh fanboys are scored it will flop

And the other sides are expecting flop.

You i guess would be with group 1...

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]So I guess we can put it as-

Jg4xchamp, Subrosian, PBS SNipes, Bioshock Ownz, Dream Visions are probably the only ones in this thread or on this board(system wars) that are hyping or defending this game with valid reasons.

While everyone else is expecting a flop.thepwninator

Don't forget me!

my bad.
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]So I guess we can put it as-

Jg4xchamp, Subrosian, PBS SNipes, Bioshock Ownz, Dream Visions are probably the only ones in this thread or on this board(system wars) that are hyping or defending this game with valid reasons.

While everyone else is expecting a flop.BioShockOwnz

I'm predicting AA how is that a flop? I've always maintaned that it isn't AAA. Considering 2 of my favourite games this gen on the 360 (Mass Effect and Dead Rising) also got AA I don't see how that bashing the game or "flopping" it.

If it ends up AA, then it's the complete opposite of a flop, because the majority of SW's has dumped on this game from day one.

well thats ok then :P
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#81 jg4xchamp
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ok here happy. Its not like we have SW bets to have fun with this anyway(ahem)

Too human like- Subrosian, PBS snipes, jg4xchamp, thepwninator, Bioshock Ownz, Dream Visions, Blue Hazy Basic, Secret Police, Spinecaton


Too Human hate- everyone else.

Don't take this literally, im not really making a list. just a general statement.

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#82 blitzkid1
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This game will be so much fun and it has 2 player co-op , Augustwill be hawt and ill be able toplay Tales of Vesperia a win win situation
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#83 mr0161
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Are people forgetting this game has CO-OP?

That should make it last, just be like any other shooter where people play the same maps, guns, etc and it never gets old for them.

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#84 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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im sorry I didn't want rib on you dude.
jg4xchamp
Thats ok I've debated with PBSnipes over the game, in that I felt it was missing too many RPG elements for me to get really excited for the game. The previews today actually have me encouraged and I might have to go cap in hand and apologise. :P

I really don't care that much what a game scores as long as it has appeal for me (OK I start getting wary if its hitting 7 or less and might well look at a rental instead).

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#85 sonicmj1
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Too Human is 10 hours is like saying Halo 3 is 10 hours yet almost a year later millions are still playing. :roll:

"leaves before the ignorance of previewer rubs off "

darthogre

So it's offical.....you guys are then hyping it to be as big as Halo then?

See I'm confused when talking to the Too Human fans.......it's hyped like AAA GOTY blockbuster, but when push comes to shove everyone goes "well maybe AA".

Either it's a big game or not. You can't use Halo 3's name in comparison to this game if you think it's not going to be AAA. I think KZ2 should be AAA from what I've seen, if it's not it flopped IMO....see wasn't that easy? Just like Uncharted flopped in my eyes, it was really hyped AAA but cows backed out because of fear.

I don't really understand this lately....why do people care if a game flopped or not? If you think it's going to be great, state so. Does getting system wars "owned" suddenly mean your life is over?

You're getting a little ahead of yourself.

Nobody's hyping Too Human to score AAA and be GOTY. We know that probably won't happen anywhere. But while there are a significant number of people who believe it will be the 360's Lair, there are also a devoted few who believe that this game will be an underappreciated gem that will develop a devoted cult following who will adore it. It's not going to compete in critical reception or sales with a Halo or a Super Smash Bros. It's more like an Ikaruga: a well-made game that will drive away many because of what it is, but a game that a small group will gravitate to and come to love.

The Halo 3 comparison was merely an analogy to show that the time it takes to go through a game once isn't equal to the total time someone will spend with a game.

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#86 spinecaton
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Are people forgetting this game has CO-OP?

That should make it last, just be like any other shooter where people play the same maps, guns, etc and it never gets old for them.

mr0161

I think people are forgetting games that actually incorporate replay value beyond simple matchmaking aspect. There are very few games that give you a reason to play through a second time so people don't actually think about that when bashing the so called "10 hour" length of this game.

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Everything went smoothly in the sessions we played; only minutes after signing on, we were running around together in the game's first level, the Hall of Heroes. The experience is somewhat streamlined, in the anticipation that you'll be playing through multiple times. The additional bear and wolf squads that join you in the campaign are gone, as are the cut-scenes and tutorials. The first wave of enemies ambushed us within moments of the game starting, and we immediately noticed that not only was their location different than in the single-player game; but there were also a whole lot more of them. The enemies also scale to match up with the highest level member of the party. This keeps the competition coming, but it also made it hard to team our level 16 Defender with a level 32 Champion. Often, the Defender was forced to hang back and wait for the Champion to make a dent in the herd, as the Defender could only handle a few blows from the stronger, higher-level enemies.

Still, that takes nothing away from how much fun we had playing together with two characters of roughly the same level. And on the technical front, we had a positive online play experience, encountering little to no lag and voice-chat problems; no matter how frenetic the onscreen action got, no ugly, debilitating networking issues raised their head. Too Human appears to be right on track to satisfy everyone looking forward to late-night, rare-drop dungeon runs.

1up

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1up seems to be excited for this game. Interesting, isn't it?

No?

Howzabout I tell you about the history between Too Human and 1up.

Back in ye oldenne days, shortly after E3'06, Dyack was talking with the 1up people. Then the 1up people mentioned the game looked a bit...unfinished. Then, Dyack said something along the lines of "well, it's your fault-you and the entire reviewing industry-you cannot seem to realize that a game that isn't finished yet isn't finished!", after which he supposedly made a few personal insults.

Odd, then, how 1up would seem to have enjoyed this game, not allowing their personal bias to get in the way of seeing that it is, indeed, a good game.

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#88 HarlockJC
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I hope this is wrong. We will have to wait until better sources state otherwise. Because if it only 10 hours long it going to be a bargin bin game for me. No matter how good the 10 hours is.
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#89 jg4xchamp
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can somebody tell me when hyping a game as an 8 sucked. Im sorry but majority of the games I own and like I feel are 8ish.

In fact some of my favorite games by gamespot standards are 8ish

Metal Gear Solid 1

Deus Ex

System Shock 2

Majoras Mask

Starfox Adventures

Turok 2

Some they felt were worse

Mario Kart franchise(except Mario Kart Wii)

Diddy Kong Racing

Legend of Dragoon

Vagrant Story

I mean this gen alone

Mass Effect
Metroid Prime 3
The Darkness
Lost Odyssey
Devil May Cry 4
Ninja Gaiden 2

are all games that not only have I loved but didn't get AAA.

So when the hell did hyping a game to be good= it has to be AAA or else it sucks?

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#90 jg4xchamp
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I hope this is wrong. We will have to wait until better sources state otherwise. Because if it only 10 hours long it going to be a bargin bin game for me. No matter how good the 10 hours is.HarlockJC
god I am actually getting sick of repeating this.

10 hours if you focus on the linear story path.

There will be sidequest
Dungeons
and a ton of extras to warrent going off to another path and exploring

there is coop which will change up the game

The cla-sses for a different sty1e of play, and then there is all the unlockables after just the 1st playthrough(meaning more content will be there for the taking after you have beaten it, thus warrenting another playthrough).

There is more to Too Human than a quick linear run.
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[QUOTE="HarlockJC"]I hope this is wrong. We will have to wait until better sources state otherwise. Because if it only 10 hours long it going to be a bargin bin game for me. No matter how good the 10 hours is.jg4xchamp
god I am actually getting sick of repeating this.

10 hours if you focus on the linear story path.

There will be sidequest
Dungeons
and a ton of extras to warrent going off to another path and exploring

there is coop which will change up the game

The cla-sses for a different sty1e of play, and then there is all the unlockables after just the 1st playthrough(meaning more content will be there for the taking after you have beaten it, thus warrenting another playthrough).

There is more to Too Human than a quick linear run.

you're buying it and thats all you need need to worry about, no need to try and educate the naysayers who are to lazy to look up info on the game themselves.

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Gamespy preview

Combat in Too Human is multi-faceted, and more about developing a rhythm and strategy than mashing buttons. Attacks are simply mapped to the right analog stick, which seems simple at first but is actually rather deep. Primarily, you'll strike at ground-based targets by sliding -- you hold the stick in the direction of an enemy in range, and Baldur will slide along the ground, delivering a blow when contact is made. The trick to handling large groups is to queue up your next slide during the current one, which when done successfully leads to a ****of combat that is one part stylish movie fight scene, and one part pinball. The idea is to move around the battlefield fast enough that the enemies aren't presented with a target slow enough to hit.

Gamespy

By chaining attacks together, juggling enemies, and basically hitting baddies before they hit you, you'll build combo. Your combo meter powers your Battle Cries, allows you to pull off Ruiner moves (think: finishers), and also provides a nifty experience bonus. You'll have to make a choice as to when to spend your combo, and when to let it accumulate, though using it intelligently will often lead to generating more and more of it.

Gamespy



Mixing and matching weapons and armor is important, and more than just a styIe choice, as each weapon type and piece of armor will have unique attributes that can be set up to provide tangible benefits in combat. The amount of loot and the number of different attributes that can be modified in Too Human is just staggering, and if you're the type of player who enjoys collecting rare weapons and armor, it's not hard to envision there being near-infinite replay value coming from the itemization alone.

Gamespy

Does the preview look negative to you?

No?


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#93 blitzkid1
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Gamespy preview

[QUOTE="Gamespy"]

Combat in Too Human is multi-faceted, and more about developing a rhythm and strategy than mashing buttons. Attacks are simply mapped to the right analog stick, which seems simple at first but is actually rather deep. Primarily, you'll strike at ground-based targets by sliding -- you hold the stick in the direction of an enemy in range, and Baldur will slide along the ground, delivering a blow when contact is made. The trick to handling large groups is to queue up your next slide during the current one, which when done successfully leads to a ****of combat that is one part stylish movie fight scene, and one part pinball. The idea is to move around the battlefield fast enough that the enemies aren't presented with a target slow enough to hit.

thepwninator

By chaining attacks together, juggling enemies, and basically hitting baddies before they hit you, you'll build combo. Your combo meter powers your Battle Cries, allows you to pull off Ruiner moves (think: finishers), and also provides a nifty experience bonus. You'll have to make a choice as to when to spend your combo, and when to let it accumulate, though using it intelligently will often lead to generating more and more of it.

Gamespy



Mixing and matching weapons and armor is important, and more than just a styIe choice, as each weapon type and piece of armor will have unique attributes that can be set up to provide tangible benefits in combat. The amount of loot and the number of different attributes that can be modified in Too Human is just staggering, and if you're the type of player who enjoys collecting rare weapons and armor, it's not hard to envision there being near-infinite replay value coming from the itemization alone.

Gamespy

Does the preview look negative to you?

No?


I like collectying rare weapons and armors, this game will be cool.

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[QUOTE="thepwninator"]

Gamespy preview

[QUOTE="Gamespy"]

Combat in Too Human is multi-faceted, and more about developing a rhythm and strategy than mashing buttons. Attacks are simply mapped to the right analog stick, which seems simple at first but is actually rather deep. Primarily, you'll strike at ground-based targets by sliding -- you hold the stick in the direction of an enemy in range, and Baldur will slide along the ground, delivering a blow when contact is made. The trick to handling large groups is to queue up your next slide during the current one, which when done successfully leads to a ****of combat that is one part stylish movie fight scene, and one part pinball. The idea is to move around the battlefield fast enough that the enemies aren't presented with a target slow enough to hit.

blitzkid1

By chaining attacks together, juggling enemies, and basically hitting baddies before they hit you, you'll build combo. Your combo meter powers your Battle Cries, allows you to pull off Ruiner moves (think: finishers), and also provides a nifty experience bonus. You'll have to make a choice as to when to spend your combo, and when to let it accumulate, though using it intelligently will often lead to generating more and more of it.

Gamespy



Mixing and matching weapons and armor is important, and more than just a styIe choice, as each weapon type and piece of armor will have unique attributes that can be set up to provide tangible benefits in combat. The amount of loot and the number of different attributes that can be modified in Too Human is just staggering, and if you're the type of player who enjoys collecting rare weapons and armor, it's not hard to envision there being near-infinite replay value coming from the itemization alone.

Gamespy

Does the preview look negative to you?

No?


I like collectying rare weapons and armors, this game will be cool.

And here I was, thinking that only negative previews existed for this game.

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#96 nw030
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

Too Human is 10 hours is like saying Halo 3 is 10 hours yet almost a year later millions are still playing. :roll:

"leaves before the ignorance of previewer rubs off "

darthogre

So it's offical.....you guys are then hyping it to be as big as Halo then?

See I'm confused when talking to the Too Human fans.......it's hyped like AAA GOTY blockbuster, but when push comes to shove everyone goes "well maybe AA".

Either it's a big game or not. You can't use Halo 3's name in comparison to this game if you think it's not going to be AAA. I think KZ2 should be AAA from what I've seen, if it's not it flopped IMO....see wasn't that easy? Just like Uncharted flopped in my eyes, it was really hyped AAA but cows backed out because of fear.

I don't really understand this lately....why do people care if a game flopped or not? If you think it's going to be great, state so. Does getting system wars "owned" suddenly mean your life is over?

Now its obvious that your just trolling.

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#97 thepwninator
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[QUOTE="darthogre"]

[QUOTE="ColoradoKindBud"]Length shouldn't be as big of a factor if the quality is there. I think this will be a love-it-or-hate-it type of game, but since I dig hack-n-slash gammes, I'm sure I'll fall into the love it category.farrell2k

Length isn't a big factor in RPGs????? Since when? I'm sorry but I'd like to think most people who love RPG's would consider that length to be way too short. They've been working on this game for what, 10 years? So 1 year for every hour that you play? Heck 10 hrs (which like I said is probably 8 hrs) is the equivalent to the quick shooter games today.....now they are making quick RPGs, sorry that is crap.

If FF13 turned out to be 10 hrs long, I'd be saying the exact same thing.

The RPGs that are shorter today are so not because of less content, but because of the diminished need to level grind. Take most RPGs released in the last 15 years, remove the excessive leveling, and most will only have 10 - 15 hrs of real content.

Though that may not be true (ex: I've spent over a hundred hours in the past month on Baldur's Gate 2 with little grinding), Too Human is different from Final Fantasy anyway-one is built around being played through once or twice, while the other is designed around being played over and over and over again to get that one piece of loot or to get to level fifty to show off to your friends, etc.

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#98 CreepyBacon
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One of the Lemmings big hyped RPG's... And it's only 10 hours.

RPG-Lite FTL...

jonnyt61

It's a pity even after a year+ the PS3 doesn't have an RPG to compare it to, or you might have a point. l0l

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#99 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]So I guess we can put it as-

Jg4xchamp, Subrosian, PBS SNipes, Bioshock Ownz, Dream Visions are probably the only ones in this thread or on this board(system wars) that are hyping or defending this game with valid reasons.

While everyone else is expecting a flop.spinecaton

You forgot Secretpolice- and myself, we have stood behind this game since day 1.

That's the fact Jack. :)