Forza 3 takes a strong punch from Top Gear. Compares to "magic carpet"

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#1 zero_snake99
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Ouch... (check out all the pictures, each includes nice caption from Top Gear)

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/top-gear-forza-3?imageNo=7

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#2 BioShockOwnz
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What's Top Gear?

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#3 taj7575
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What's Top Gear?

BioShockOwnz

It's the show of all shows.

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#4 DJ_Lae
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Did anyone at Top Gear who matters write that?

edit - some rube named James Shovlin. Not Clarkson, May, or Hammond. Whoops.

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#5 zero_snake99
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What's Top Gear?

BioShockOwnz
*sniffs* smells like damage control comin in xD
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#6 ReaperV7
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What's Top Gear?

BioShockOwnz

a pretty popular show on discovery channel where a British guy tests out pretty much every single $100k + car on the market...new or old.

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#7 pyromaniac223
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Hmmm. I imagine something like that would be difficult to do with a video game.
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#8 JigglyWiggly_
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WAT, if top gear says that I am actually really worried :( Well it depends who wrote it, it must be Jeremy Clarkson, or Richard, or James for me to care :) Or most of all the stig.

Also people who don't know what Top Gear is, don't deserve to live :)

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#9 zero_snake99
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Did anyone at Top Gear who matters write that?DJ_Lae
James Shovlin, one of the big writers for Top Gear Magazine.
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#10 JLF1
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Isn't Top Gear that BBC Car show that has a deal with Polyphony so that you can watch their episodes in that game?

EDIT: Here is a link.

EDIT 2: "That game" is GT5:P. Forgot to mention that :P

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#11 DJ_Lae
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WAT, if top gear says that I am actually really worried :( Well it depends who wrote it, it must be Jeremy Clarkson, or Richard, or James for me to care :)JigglyWiggly_
It's not, it's some intern.
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#12 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"]WAT, if top gear says that I am actually really worried :( Well it depends who wrote it, it must be Jeremy Clarkson, or Richard, or James for me to care :)DJ_Lae
It's not, it's some intern.

Oh, then who cares :)
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#13 spike6566
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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

What's Top Gear?

It's the show of all shows.

guess its not that great then, never heard of it.
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#14 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

What's Top Gear?

zero_snake99

*sniffs* smells like damage control comin in xD

I don't damage control, bud. Never heard of this show.

It'll be AAA and Top Gear still won't matter.

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#15 Kashiwaba
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Top gear is the most famous cars show in the world.

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#16 ThatsSimtastic
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The demo comes out in a few hours so I guess we'll be able to see for ourselves.

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#17 TheSystemLord1
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They feel detached from a sim driving game? Um...not to mention that deal they have with Polyphony to put their show into Gran Turismo. This means nothing.
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They feel detached from a sim driving game? Um...not to mention that deal they have with Polyphony to put their show into Gran Turismo. This means nothing.TheSystemLord1

Well, that just killed anything they have to say.

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#19 zero_snake99
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[QUOTE="zero_snake99"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

What's Top Gear?

BioShockOwnz

*sniffs* smells like damage control comin in xD

I don't damage control, bud. Never heard of this show.

It'll be AAA and Top Gear still won't matter.

You've HONESTLY never heard of Top Gear? o_O. I don't have cable NOR do I live in the UK, but I know about Top Gear.
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#20 BioShockOwnz
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"] *sniffs* smells like damage control comin in xDzero_snake99

I don't damage control, bud. Never heard of this show.

It'll be AAA and Top Gear still won't matter.

You've HONESTLY never heard of Top Gear? o_O. I don't have cable NOR do I live in the UK, but I know about Top Gear.

Nope, never heard of it. I watch the History Channel and news channels when I watch tv.

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#21 SolarEclipze
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[QUOTE="zero_snake99"]

Ouch... (check out all the pictures, each includes nice caption from Top Gear)

http://www.topgear.com/uk/photos/top-gear-forza-3?imageNo=7

Did you write that?? :P
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[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]They feel detached from a sim driving game? Um...not to mention that deal they have with Polyphony to put their show into Gran Turismo. This means nothing.BioShockOwnz

Well, that just killed anything they have to say.

The person who wrote it is a freelance writer. Yes, he does write for Top Gear Magazine, but I doubt he gets any cut from any outside dealings...
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#23 taj7575
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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

What's Top Gear?

spike6566

It's the show of all shows.

guess its not that great then, never heard of it.

It's a British show. Not too popular here, but I still watch it on BBC America when I get the chance. It's a great show.

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I don't think that sounds like a "strong punch" "When things go a bit pear-shaped, the impacts feel nice and solid. But strangely enough, when things are going smoothly, it can feel a bit too, well, smooth. It almost feels like you're driving some kind of magic carpet, hovering just above the track itself. A real feeling of movement and feedback is difficult for a game to accurately create, admittedly, but we couldn't help but feel slightly detached. " He sounds dead on to me, a lot racing games have a hard time capturing what it's like to really be in a car. I heard NFS Shift does a good job with the in car feeling though, haven't played it yet. The same with most shooters, most shooters feel like your moving a floating camera around instead of a soldier with 50lbs of gear.
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#25 zero_snake99
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[QUOTE="zero_snake99"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I don't damage control, bud. Never heard of this show.

It'll be AAA and Top Gear still won't matter.

BioShockOwnz

You've HONESTLY never heard of Top Gear? o_O. I don't have cable NOR do I live in the UK, but I know about Top Gear.

Nope, never heard of it. I watch the History Channel and news channels when I watch tv.

So? I literally only watch PBS when it comes to actual TV... If you've never heard of Top Gear, why do you like commenting on the racing games so much.. I don't know of any car enthusiast that has never heard of that show.
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[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]They feel detached from a sim driving game? Um...not to mention that deal they have with Polyphony to put their show into Gran Turismo. This means nothing.BioShockOwnz

Well, that just killed anything they have to say.

topgear is teh car show..if they give Forza 3 a bad review it not good..and yes their opinion matters more then some video game website like gamespot to car fanatics.

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[QUOTE="zero_snake99"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

What's Top Gear?

BioShockOwnz

*sniffs* smells like damage control comin in xD

I don't damage control, bud. Never heard of this show.

It'll be AAA and Top Gear still won't matter.

Didn't know it possible not to have heard of this show. They have 13 seasons you know. The old Top Gear started in 1977 and has 45 seasons. They have a ton of coverage too. Must be quite the rock you live under.

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#28 spike6566
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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="spike6566"][QUOTE="taj7575"]

It's the show of all shows.

guess its not that great then, never heard of it.

It's a British show. Not too popular here, but I still watch it on BBC America when I get the chance. It's a great show.

oh so its not the Show of all SHows then. since its only popular in england.
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#29 TheSystemLord1
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This little blurb means absolutely nothing: link
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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="spike6566"] guess its not that great then, never heard of it.spike6566

It's a British show. Not too popular here, but I still watch it on BBC America when I get the chance. It's a great show.

oh so its not the Show of all SHows then. since its only popular in england.

Its very popular in middle east, Asia, europe and Japan sorry dude but US isnt the world ==;.

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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="zero_snake99"] You've HONESTLY never heard of Top Gear? o_O. I don't have cable NOR do I live in the UK, but I know about Top Gear.zero_snake99

Nope, never heard of it. I watch the History Channel and news channels when I watch tv.

So? I literally only watch PBS when it comes to actual TV... If you've never heard of Top Gear, why do you like commenting on the racing games so much.. I don't know of any car enthusiast that has never heard of that show.

I'm what some would call a tuner, as has been detailed on my blog before. I've never heard of Top Gear and don't care. I don't spend much time on the boobtube. I don't care about the show, if it has hot chick or hot cars, it doesn't matter. I like both things, but I don't care to watch a tv show on it. Deal with it. And FM3 will be AAA and Top Gear will always be another meh tv show.

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#32 JLF1
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I'm what some would call a tuner, as has been detailed on my blog before. I've never heard of Top Gear and don't care. I don't spend much time on the boobtube. I don't care about the show, if it has hot chick or hot cars, it doesn't matter. I like both things, but I don't care to watch a tv show on it. Deal with it. And FM3 will be AAA and Top Gear will always be another meh tv show.

BioShockOwnz

I agreed with you until you called Top Gear a meh show.

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#33 RedruM_I
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The only real console racing sim is GT, Forza is a very good arcade racing game but just a sim wannabe. Fact! :D
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#34 Kashiwaba
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This little blurb means absolutely nothing: linkTheSystemLord1

signing contract with PD doesn't make them biased in one of their episodes they compared driving a car in a circuit in GT4 and driving the same car on the same circuit in real life and the result was GT4 isnt even close to real life driving and there was over 1 min gap betweeen the time you need to complete the lap in GT4 and real life.

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[QUOTE="zero_snake99"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Nope, never heard of it. I watch the History Channel and news channels when I watch tv.

BioShockOwnz

So? I literally only watch PBS when it comes to actual TV... If you've never heard of Top Gear, why do you like commenting on the racing games so much.. I don't know of any car enthusiast that has never heard of that show.

I'm what some would call a tuner, as has been detailed on my blog before. I've never heard of Top Gear and don't care. I don't spend much time on the boobtube. I don't care about the show, if it has hot chick or hot cars, it doesn't matter. I like both things, but I don't care to watch a tv show on it. Deal with it. And FM3 will be AAA and Top Gear will always be another meh tv show.

Another meh TV show? You are absolutely clueless aren't you. Go YouTube some episodes and tell me it isn't one of the best car shows / TV shows in general you've seen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MipOgdt_Ibk

If you enjoy cars, you'll enjoy this show....unless you're part of the Morris Marinas club.

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[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]I don't think that sounds like a "strong punch" "When things go a bit pear-shaped, the impacts feel nice and solid. But strangely enough, when things are going smoothly, it can feel a bit too, well, smooth. It almost feels like you're driving some kind of magic carpet, hovering just above the track itself. A real feeling of movement and feedback is difficult for a game to accurately create, admittedly, but we couldn't help but feel slightly detached. " He sounds dead on to me, a lot racing games have a hard time capturing what it's like to really be in a car. I heard NFS Shift does a good job with the in car feeling though, haven't played it yet. The same with most shooters, most shooters feel like your moving a floating camera around instead of a soldier with 50lbs of gear.

Considering it shows them playing on a racing wheel, you'd think the force feedback is good enough. Most PC racing sims have this aspect down. The cars feel heavy and such. GT5 prologue was the same (the other GT's felt kinda floaty though).
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

[QUOTE="TheSystemLord1"]They feel detached from a sim driving game? Um...not to mention that deal they have with Polyphony to put their show into Gran Turismo. This means nothing.zero_snake99

Well, that just killed anything they have to say.

The person who wrote it is a freelance writer. Yes, he does write for Top Gear Magazine, but I doubt he gets any cut from any outside dealings...

So the people who have a deal with Polyphony paid him to write it..... got ya!

I don't see the difference.

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#38 Vaasman
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"Rest assured, we'll always be completely unbiased, even if GT5 does have the Top Gear test track..."

suuuuuure....

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#39 zero_snake99
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[QUOTE="zero_snake99"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Nope, never heard of it. I watch the History Channel and news channels when I watch tv.

BioShockOwnz

So? I literally only watch PBS when it comes to actual TV... If you've never heard of Top Gear, why do you like commenting on the racing games so much.. I don't know of any car enthusiast that has never heard of that show.

I'm what some would call a tuner, as has been detailed on my blog before. I've never heard of Top Gear and don't care. I don't spend much time on the boobtube. I don't care about the show, if it has hot chick or hot cars, it doesn't matter. I like both things, but I don't care to watch a tv show on it. Deal with it. And FM3 will be AAA and Top Gear will always be another meh tv show.

They were one of the lucky few to get their hands on a Bugatti Veyron... they drove it on the VW track, taking it to 257mph.. fastest production car to date.. THEY got to drive that 1million dollar car. "Meh" tv show? I don't think so.
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#40 II_Seraphim_II
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What's Top Gear?

BioShockOwnz
:o I guess it's understandable if you are from the US. Top gear is show to watch if you are a car enthusiast.
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#41 Couth_
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I'm in the U.S. and I only watch ESPN, and I know what top gear is. :? If you have ever googled or youtubed any exotic car. A top gear show is in the top of the list. What have they done? Like 14 seasons.
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#42 zero_snake99
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This just in. According to Sony, GT is only 65% complete.. this year release is probably a no no. Also new Ratchet game is around 80% complete. (this news is straight from TGS btw..)
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#43 Silent-Hal
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This thread needs more Stig.

Some say he finished ODST in under 30 seconds, and that he once sold his soul to Activision.

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#44 taj7575
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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

[QUOTE="spike6566"] guess its not that great then, never heard of it.spike6566

It's a British show. Not too popular here, but I still watch it on BBC America when I get the chance. It's a great show.

oh so its not the Show of all SHows then. since its only popular in england.

By the "show of all shows", which was a joke you took too seriously in the first place, I meant it was a great show, ignoring it's popularity. But if you do inclue it's popularity, the show is very popular all around the world.

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#45 yonnex
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[QUOTE="zero_snake99"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Nope, never heard of it. I watch the History Channel and news channels when I watch tv.

BioShockOwnz

So? I literally only watch PBS when it comes to actual TV... If you've never heard of Top Gear, why do you like commenting on the racing games so much.. I don't know of any car enthusiast that has never heard of that show.

I'm what some would call a tuner, as has been detailed on my blog before. I've never heard of Top Gear and don't care. I don't spend much time on the boobtube. I don't care about the show, if it has hot chick or hot cars, it doesn't matter. I like both things, but I don't care to watch a tv show on it. Deal with it. And FM3 will be AAA and Top Gear will always be another meh tv show.

meh show you never seen before = fail confirmed

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#46 2uneek4u
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this is top gear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMldMloLOeQ&feature=related

shocking to see racing sim game fan not knowing top gear. They do all the testing on all expensive cars. they also break records for fastest speed production cars. if you know about the bugatti veyron being the fastest car on road, im sure you would know its top gear that does all the record breaking and testing.

*Edit* oh btw the SSC ultimate aero now holds the fastest speed production car record.

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#47 Cherokee_Jack
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Didn't GT5P host episodes of Top Gear or something? lulz
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#48 Kashiwaba
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shocking to see racing sim game fan not knowing top gear. They do all the testing on all expensive cars. they also break records for fastest speed of road cars. if you know about the bugatti veyron being the fastest car on road, im sure you would know its top gear that does all the record breaking and testing.

2uneek4u

Doubt they are racing sim fans they just love arguing about Forza 3 Vs GT5 to claim ownage in SWs.

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#49 playharderfool
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"When things go a bit pear-shaped, the impacts feel nice and solid. But strangely enough, when things are going smoothly, it can feel a bit too, well, smooth. It almost feels like you're driving some kind of magic carpet, hovering just above the track itself. A real feeling of movement and feedback is difficult for a game to accurately create, admittedly, but we couldn't help but feel slightly detached."

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This...this is what I have been trying to express about the forza serise as a whole while xbox fans always claimed superion driving an what not, and it seems part 3 is the same as what I've experienced from the rest of the serise.

My coment's about Forza just yesterday in another thread:

"Actually I hated the last Forza game because it handled like a arcade game compaired to GT5P. GT5P seemed to simulate the feel of driving a real car more accurately than Forza and for me that's what made me like GT more...the graphics are just extra. Don't lump everybody in the same category, it's all the xbox fans who are saying Forza has better physics, but I chuckle everytime they say that becaue the "physics" are no better than what you find in the standard arcade game now. I don't know what they mean by "better" physics but they are definantly not more accurate then GT's"

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27046635&msg_id=316303759#316303759

The key word here is feel, Forza just dosen't feel like you're driving a real car. The draving mechanics feel fake or rather arcadish.

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#50 Totalgym9000
Member since 2009 • 1456 Posts
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What's Top Gear?

*sniffs* smells like damage control comin in xD

I don't damage control, bud. Never heard of this show.

It'll be AAA and Top Gear still won't matter.

Lmao stop digging yourself into a hole, Top gear doesnt matter???? it's only the most luved car show out there by Car enthusiasts and a lot of Car luvers out there are the ones who purchase these car sims.