Forza 3 vs. GT5 There Is No Rivalry

A rivalry is a back and forth battle between two well-matched opponents. As of late (and this trend WILL CONTINUE) GT cant compane with Forza. This is not a rivalry and more of a domination of Forza over GT. GT fans, dont flatter yourselves and call this a rivalry, thanks

From what I've seen I think FZ2 is as technically impressive as GT5.

From what I've seen I think FZ2 is as technically impressive as GT5.

Camer999

They aren't meant for casuals.

No Rivalry except for The Forza team making fun of the GT team playing their game at E3 (Even though the Forza team obviously was inspired by GT in the first place.)

Then, right after that, there was the ForzaGATE Bribe scandal on CNET.

Forza's a great game, but there is most definitely a rivalry.

Two flagship racing games for rival consoles

How could there not a be a rivalry?

Two flagship racing games for rival consoles

How could there not a be a rivalry?

thelastguy

They aren't meant for casuals.

mixmax5

Although Forza is a great racing game. It's actually a fact of life that GT is better than forza. Literally. Without GT, there is no Forza. Don't insult GT. Insulting Gran turismo is like insulting Doom, Half life, Counter strike, goldeneye, MGS1, etc. You don't disrespect the granfathers/legends in their genres and Gran turismo single handledly CREATED forza. Remember that new-age Forza nubs. lol. Forza owns though. Just that GT owns it.

Well, I think this time around, GT will be a better game. It just looks so much more lively with NASCAR (even though i hate it) and WRC including the typical JGTC.

both have crap casual gameplay though.pconlygoodgames

Well considering how T10 appears to be approaching the casual market with the added assists that were presented at E3 I am going to disagree with you.

From what they expressed they are aware of the learning curve and trying to make it more accessible....Just another point on how T10 is trying to move the genre forward....I wish the same can be said about Poly..

GT5 > Forza 3

your right Forza can't be compared to gran turismo...Gran Turismo has so much to do its in its own class of game.......Its lightyears ahead of forza

Although Forza is a great racing game. It's actually a fact of life that GT is better than forza. Literally. Without GT, there is no Forza. Don't insult GT. Insulting Gran turismo is like insulting Doom, Half life, Counter strike, goldeneye, MGS1, etc. You don't disrespect the granfathers/legends in their genres and Gran turismo single handledly CREATED forza. Remember that new-age Forza nubs. lol. Forza owns though. Just that GT owns it.

VideoGameRosado

While T10 sounds very confidant...they also have given their props to Poly in numerousinterviews.

With that said. I don't understand the " It's actually a fact of life that GT is better than forza"...or GT is better simply because it's an older franchise"

What does the age of franchise have to do with quality/position in the market place?

Have fun with that. I'm still playing GT4, despite the next gen goodies that come with Forza... whatever number they are on now. Like realistic crash damage that is obviously not there just to make it appear is has something while being dumbed down for the casual player. Yes, realistic crashing and making my car look swanky. All hail Forza and it's realism and swankeyness.

[QUOTE="pconlygoodgames"]both have crap casual gameplay though.masiisam

Well considering how T10 appears to be approaching the casual market with the added assists that were presented at E3 I am going to disagree with you.

From what they expressed they are aware of the learning curve and trying to make it more accessible....Just another point on how T10 is trying to move the genre forward....I wish the same can be said about Poly..

I didn't realize anyone had played GT5 or Forza 3 for that matter. I think it would be wise to wait for both to release before making such statements.

BTW the PSP version of GT has more cars than F3 and its for a handheld device LOL.

Well, I think this time around, GT will be a better game. It just looks so much more lively with NASCAR (even though i hate it) and WRC including the typical JGTC.

SupraGT

Who cares... if you own 360, get Forza, if you own ps3, get GT5, if own both, get both.funsohng

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="pconlygoodgames"]both have crap casual gameplay though.f50p90

Well considering how T10 appears to be approaching the casual market with the added assists that were presented at E3 I am going to disagree with you.

From what they expressed they are aware of the learning curve and trying to make it more accessible....Just another point on how T10 is trying to move the genre forward....I wish the same can be said about Poly..

One sided?? Ohh of course if I don't agree with you I must be one sided right?..or make statements you don't agree on..I must be one sided right...I forget...sorry:roll:

Of course they want to sell more copies..what do you think this is charity?

Let me get this straight and not confuse what you are saying? So you actually think the added assists that T10 have introduced into the genre are a bad thing?

By trying to make it more accessible is "dumbing" down the game play?

So it really boils down to your ability to debate is to flame and then go with the easiest way out " Play the sales card" ? Nice...good looking...

how is nascar being incorporated into the game Just the cars? or the entire series, points system, popular drivers, Can you make your own nascar team, how do you just buy Dale Jr? Will drafting play a bigger role in this GT(since drafting is huge in nascar), how will the nascar setups and configuration be diffferent from the other cars?jg4xchamp

I think it's like video feed of Nascar or something streamed to the PS3

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]how is nascar being incorporated into the game Just the cars? or the entire series, points system, popular drivers, Can you make your own nascar team, how do you just buy Dale Jr? Will drafting play a bigger role in this GT(since drafting is huge in nascar), how will the nascar setups and configuration be diffferent from the other cars?Irick_cb

I think it's like video feed of Nascar or something streamed to the PS3

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="masiisam"]

Well considering how T10 appears to be approaching the casual market with the added assists that were presented at E3 I am going to disagree with you.

From what they expressed they are aware of the learning curve and trying to make it more accessible....Just another point on how T10 is trying to move the genre forward....I wish the same can be said about Poly..

masiisam

One sided?? Ohh of course if I don't agree with you I must be one sided right?..or make statements you don't agree on..I must be one sided right...I forget...sorry:roll:

Of course they want to sell more copies..what do you think this is charity?

Let me get this straight and not confuse what you are saying? So you actually think the added assists that T10 have introduced into the genre are a bad thing?

By trying to make it more accessible is "dumbing" down the game play?

So it really boils down to your ability to debate is to flame and then go with the easiest way out " Play the sales card" ? Nice...good looking...

Although Forza is a great racing game. It's actually a fact of life that GT is better than forza. Literally. Without GT, there is no Forza. Don't insult GT. Insulting Gran turismo is like insulting Doom, Half life, Counter strike, goldeneye, MGS1, etc. You don't disrespect the granfathers/legends in their genres and Gran turismo single handledly CREATED forza. Remember that new-age Forza nubs. lol. Forza owns though. Just that GT owns it.

VideoGameRosado

Ok, so GT is like the Model T and Forza is like a high end modern car (reader's choice), all that you said is that Forza 3 is better than GT5, its just that you have to give GT props for making the genre popular. (Last I checked series like Doom kinda suck now).

[QUOTE="SupraGT"]

Well, I think this time around, GT will be a better game. It just looks so much more lively with NASCAR (even though i hate it) and WRC including the typical JGTC.

jg4xchamp

How am i suppost to know that? All i know right now is that they have the licensing for the series. That's a big hint to how it will play out. If they have the license, then they can use the drivers names, pictures, and rules etc. Drafting had already played a big part in previous gt series. I'm sure the cars will handle like nascars. And i'm sure you can mess around with all the settings. All cars have similar basic dynamic systems. Why are you asking all these questions?

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]how is nascar being incorporated into the game Just the cars? or the entire series, points system, popular drivers, Can you make your own nascar team, how do you just buy Dale Jr? Will drafting play a bigger role in this GT(since drafting is huge in nascar), how will the nascar setups and configuration be diffferent from the other cars?jg4xchamp

I think it's like video feed of Nascar or something streamed to the PS3

It's a good question..Anything F1 is now going to cost Sony/Poly...

Sony lost the exclusive production rights to Codemasters 6 months ago....So unless they plan on paying Codies for F1... I don't expect we will see F1 in GT5 (F1 nowhere to be found in the E3 trailer is another sign)

Speed has exclusive rights to the video broadcasts in the states so they will need to also pay them for distribution... I can seethat possibly happening...but I would rather see some rally events if the service boils down to that...

Ok, so GT is like the Model T and Forza is like a high end modern car (reader's choice), all that you said is that Forza 3 is better than GT5, its just that you have to give GT props for making the genre popular. (Last I checked series like Doom kinda suck now).

Z0MBIES

GT5 is exactly like a Model T ford that happens to be outfitted with a 612 bhp engine and twin "Sharks with fricken laser beams atached to their head" shark de-living-ifiers in a olympic sized swimingpool built into some sort of enclosure that defies space-time in the glove compartment, but with live feeds to a thin polymer based screen that is a micro layer in the paint job so that the terrifyed civilians can watch as i sacrifice my rivals while listening to all the swanky music avalible on Sirus/XM.

Those would be my words exactly too.

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="SupraGT"]

Well, I think this time around, GT will be a better game. It just looks so much more lively with NASCAR (even though i hate it) and WRC including the typical JGTC.

SupraGT

How am i suppost to know that? All i know right now is that they have the licensing for the series. That's a big hint to how it will play out. If they have the license, then they can use the drivers names, pictures, and rules etc. Drafting had already played a big part in previous gt series. I'm sure the cars will handle like nascars. And i'm sure you can mess around with all the settings. All cars have similar basic dynamic systems. Why are you asking all these questions?

[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="f50p90"]Can you be any more one sided? If anything that means they are just trying to sell more copies, and dumbing down the gameplay in the process for the casuals... GT has over 50 million sold i'd say that's pretty accessiblef50p90

One sided?? Ohh of course if I don't agree with you I must be one sided right?..or make statements you don't agree on..I must be one sided right...I forget...sorry:roll:

Of course they want to sell more copies..what do you think this is charity?

Let me get this straight and not confuse what you are saying? So you actually think the added assists that T10 have introduced into the genre are a bad thing?

By trying to make it more accessible is "dumbing" down the game play?

So it really boils down to your ability to debate is to flame and then go with the easiest way out " Play the sales card" ? Nice...good looking...

No problem Bro...

It seems quite simple that IN ADDITION to the assists T10 have implemented to the core gameplay mechanics making the genre more accessible to a larger market.... T10 have clearly stated they are RETAINING the "sim" aspects that fans enjoyed with FM2.

To make it simple...You can turn the assists on or off:|

Reading comprehension will always make things clearer and more understandable..Try doing it before you call someone one sided or bias..

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]its a well matched battle Forza gets higher reviews, while GT gets the higher sales numbers. They are in direct competition, so i say there is a rivalry here. jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Well, that's true if you only go by GS scores.Chutebox

I just totally qouted myself, sorry I'm drunk right now...

>No problem Bro...

It seems quite simple that IN ADDITION to the assists T10 have implemented to the core gameplay mechanics making the genre more accessible to a larger market.... T10 have clearly stated they are RETAINING the "sim" aspects that fans enjoyed with FM2.

To make it simple...You can turn the assists on or off:|

Reading comprehension will always make things clearer and more understandable..Try doing it before you call someone one sided or bias..

masiisam

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Its System Wars, i know the rules i have to work with. TC wanted to disallow the rivalry and get rid of GT(because i know he is going to go to reviews). ..so I went with that line. and to be fair. Metacritic wise i think Forza beat GT 4. So it isnt just GS. jg4xchamp

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="jg4xchamp"] Its System Wars, i know the rules i have to work with. TC wanted to disallow the rivalry and get rid of GT(because i know he is going to go to reviews). ..so I went with that line. and to be fair. Metacritic wise i think Forza beat GT 4. So it isnt just GS. Chutebox

I think people just need to calm down of this whole Forza vs Gran Turismo thing. But of course this is System Wars. I've always been a long time GT fan myself, but since I have both consoles I'll be getting GT5 and Forza 3 and then just decide for myself. Neither game is out yet, but that sure doesn't keep people from going ahead and making up their minds already :roll:

I think people just need to calm down of this whole Forza vs Gran Turismo thing. But of course this is System Wars. I've always been a long time GT fan myself, but since I have both consoles I'll be getting GT5 and Forza 3 and then just decide for myself. Neither game is out yet, but that sure doesn't keep people from going ahead and making up their minds already :roll:

Foolio1

It is seriously overblown. People who have both systems get to enjoy two awesome racing games. No need for hate.

[QUOTE="masiisam"]>No problem Bro...

It seems quite simple that IN ADDITION to the assists T10 have implemented to the core gameplay mechanics making the genre more accessible to a larger market.... T10 have clearly stated they are RETAINING the "sim" aspects that fans enjoyed with FM2.

To make it simple...You can turn the assists on or off:|

Reading comprehension will always make things clearer and more understandable..Try doing it before you call someone one sided or bias..

f50p90

What you don't seem to realize is sales do NOT show how accessible the genre is..50mil over 10 years in sales is great....PAST sales do not MOVE the genre forward

If want to debate then tell me something that Poly is doing to attract a deeper casual demographic with GT5?

What you don't seem to realize is sales do NOT show how accessible the genre is..50mil over 10 years in sales is great....PAST sales do not MOVE the genre forward

If want to debate then tell me something that Poly is doing to attract a deeper casual demographic with GT5?

masiisam

[QUOTE="masiisam"]What you don't seem to realize is sales do NOT show how accessible the genre is..50mil over 10 years in sales is great....PAST sales do not MOVE the genre forward

If want to debate then tell me something that Poly is doing to attract a deeper casual demographic with GT5?

f50p90

They only thing you have is NASCAR and Rally are going to move the genre forward? I did not think EA's NASCAR set the genre on fire..What about Dirt? Did it move the genre forward?

You can't name anything else Poly is doing? Not one core gameplay dynamic?

Neither can I and that's why I said

"From what they expressed they are aware of the learning curve and trying to make it more accessible....Just another point on how T10 is trying to move the genre forward....I wish the same can be said about Poly.. "

My god what a waste of time...

[QUOTE="f50p90"]

[QUOTE="masiisam"]What you don't seem to realize is sales do NOT show how accessible the genre is..50mil over 10 years in sales is great....PAST sales do not MOVE the genre forward

If want to debate then tell me something that Poly is doing to attract a deeper casual demographic with GT5?

masiisam

They only thing you have is NASCAR and Rally are going to move the genre forward? I did not think EA's NASCAR set the genre on fire..What about Dirt? Did it move the genre forward?

You can't name anything else Poly is doing? Not one core gameplay dynamic?

Neither can I and that's why I said

"From what they expressed they are aware of the learning curve and trying to make it more accessible....Just another point on how T10 is trying to move the genre forward....I wish the same can be said about Poly.. "

My god what a waste of time...