Forza 3 will be out before GT5

Now that's sad.

Turn10 has already had experience created a racing game for the 360, and forza 3 will blow us away (think transition between PGR3 and PGR4)

Turn10 will implement a whole lot a new features, and improve on the overall engine, while PD has only 1 chance to make a good game. Because GT6 will not hit before 2015. And the glorified demo isn't a game as it lacked sooo much.

Yeah but GT5 will have over 10k cars !!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah but GT5 will have over 10k cars !!!!!!!!!!!!

angelkimne

They'll be lucky if they have over 1,000....considering it takes like 6 months to create 1 car

It is sad considering the fact that GT5 has been in development for like 4 years.Probably more.terdoo

at least...didn't GT4 come out in like 2005ish

at least...didn't GT4 come out in like 2005ish Adonymous

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]

Yeah but GT5 will have over 10k cars !!!!!!!!!!!!

Adonymous

They'll be lucky if they have over 1,000....considering it takes like 6 months to create 1 car

And also for defense against cows using this fact to argue, PD has also said that only 340 will actually be on thie disk, the rest you have to download. And Forza 2 had 310 cars.

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]at least...didn't GT4 come out in like 2005ish foxhound_fox

yup...that is pathethic.

Such a waste spending so much resources on car models. The same goes for Prologue. Not the cars in it, the actual pseudo-game. I continue to have little faith in Polyphony to deliver. InsaneBasura

That means Forza 2 is the undisputed winner of racing sims from 07-08, maybe even 09. It won with 0 competition from Sony.

Wow, didnt think it be THIS EASY to take away the sim crown from sony :lol:

That means Forza 2 is the undisputed winner of racing sims from 07-08, maybe even 09. It won with 0 competition from Sony.

Wow, didnt think it be THIS EASY to take away the sim crown from sony :lol:

-GhostMLD-

I don't know if it can beat it but there is competition.

Give Polyphony a break. You think they've just been fooling around for the last 4 years? Obviously this developer has higher standards than most so it's going to take a little longer than the regular lets-make-a-quick-and-casual-game 2 year cycle.PS2_ROCKS

forza is a AAA franchise and doesnt take 4 years to make.

we arent immortal people. we age like everybody else. Do you realize many people could start and graduate highschool with out even playing the new GT? Thats really long, to put it in perspective.

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

That means Forza 2 is the undisputed winner of racing sims from 07-08, maybe even 09. It won with 0 competition from Sony.

Wow, didnt think it be THIS EASY to take away the sim crown from sony :lol:

Mongo-Boss

I don't know if it can beat it but there is competition.

it is not a sim. if it did count, i can also list PGR3 and 4, which are much closer then the motorstorm franchise is

[QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"][QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

That means Forza 2 is the undisputed winner of racing sims from 07-08, maybe even 09. It won with 0 competition from Sony.

Wow, didnt think it be THIS EASY to take away the sim crown from sony :lol:

-GhostMLD-

I don't know if it can beat it but there is competition.

it is not a sim. if it did count, i can also list PGR3 and 4, which are much closer then the motorstorm franchise is

Now that's sad.

Turn10 has already had experience created a racing game for the 360, and forza 3 will blow us away (think transition between PGR3 and PGR4)

Turn10 will implement a whole lot a new features, and improve on the overall engine, while PD has only 1 chance to make a good game. Because GT6 will not hit before 2015. And the glorified demo isn't a game as it lacked sooo much.

Adonymous

Forza is fun to tool around in, but I'd much rather have the next Gran Turismo. Realistic looking graphics instead of whatever Turn 10's trying to achieve with Forza, dash view (which is a big deal to me.. I love playing racing games in a first person perspective), and G25 support.

And realistic damage is a great thing to tout and all, but racing in career mode you hardly ever take damage unless you can't race, and while playing online, people just ram into the back of your car instead of braking. Totally overrated.

Polyphony only has one chance to make a good game, but I'm convinced they'll deliver.

That means Forza 2 is the undisputed winner of racing sims from 07-08, maybe even 09. It won with 0 competition from Sony.

Wow, didnt think it be THIS EASY to take away the sim crown from sony :lol:

-GhostMLD-

In terms of racing sims, Race 07 pwns Forza 2... but level of accessibility/pick up and play/actual career mode, Forza 2 wins.

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]

Yeah but GT5 will have over 10k cars !!!!!!!!!!!!

Adonymous

They'll be lucky if they have over 1,000....considering it takes like 6 months to create 1 car

Yeah but GT5 will have over 10k cars !!!!!!!!!!!!

angelkimne

that you have to purchase online . They will be availabe only after a while too.

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

That means Forza 2 is the undisputed winner of racing sims from 07-08, maybe even 09. It won with 0 competition from Sony.

Wow, didnt think it be THIS EASY to take away the sim crown from sony :lol:

MyopicCanadian

In terms of racing sims, Race 07 pwns Forza 2... but level of accessibility/pick up and play/actual career mode, Forza 2 wins.

I agree..In addition GTR and GTR2.... but I think he meant sims on a console

Now that's sad.

Turn10 has already had experience created a racing game for the 360, and forza 3 will blow us away (think transition between PGR3 and PGR4)

Turn10 will implement a whole lot a new features, and improve on the overall engine, while PD has only 1 chance to make a good game. Because GT6 will not hit before 2015. And the glorified demo isn't a game as it lacked sooo much.

Adonymous

Yeah and what's sad is that those who want more realism will still be racing on MS fisherprice wheel.

[QUOTE="Adonymous"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]

Yeah but GT5 will have over 10k cars !!!!!!!!!!!!

angelkimne

They'll be lucky if they have over 1,000....considering it takes like 6 months to create 1 car

And also for defense against cows using this fact to argue, PD has also said that only 340 will actually be on thie disk, the rest you have to download. And Forza 2 had 310 cars.

TrackMania is the unchallenged champ of Racing games. Not sims, some of them are hardly realistic.

[QUOTE="Adonymous"]

Now that's sad.

Turn10 has already had experience created a racing game for the 360, and forza 3 will blow us away (think transition between PGR3 and PGR4)

Turn10 will implement a whole lot a new features, and improve on the overall engine, while PD has only 1 chance to make a good game. Because GT6 will not hit before 2015. And the glorified demo isn't a game as it lacked sooo much.

Ironhorse001

Yeah and what's sad is that those who want more realism will still be racing on MS fisherprice wheel.

I use both the G25 and V2 MS wheel.....The accuracy and feel are identical...Your telling me you can tell a difference when your driving?

Yea...I bet your that guy that looks at the G25 and makes him believe he is Lewis Hamilton because yea spent 3 bills on it...

Am I the only one that liked Motor Storm over GT ?Mongo-Boss

I doubt it. I could easily see people enjoying the gameplay type in one over the other. Isn't Motorstorm more arcade gameplay where GT is sim?

I'd prefer Motorstorm too, but on occasion I'd probably dig playing a sim game like GT5, especially since it looks so good.

[QUOTE="Mongo-Boss"]Am I the only one that liked Motor Storm over GT ?Fumpa

I doubt it. I could easily see people enjoying the gameplay type in one over the other. Isn't Motorstorm more arcade gameplay where GT is sim?

I'd prefer Motorstorm too, but on occasion I'd probably dig playing a sim game like GT5, especially since it looks so good.

mosterstorm s the only racing game that can keep me interested for over half an hour, i find sims like forza and GT5 to be a little boring. to me its just going round the same circuit again, and again.

Yeah but GT5 will have over 10k cars !!!!!!!!!!!!

angelkimne

A good way to milk fans with DLC.

Forza 4 has a decent chance of being released before GT5 the way it keeps being delayed.

[QUOTE="Ironhorse001"][QUOTE="Adonymous"]

Now that's sad.

Turn10 has already had experience created a racing game for the 360, and forza 3 will blow us away (think transition between PGR3 and PGR4)

Turn10 will implement a whole lot a new features, and improve on the overall engine, while PD has only 1 chance to make a good game. Because GT6 will not hit before 2015. And the glorified demo isn't a game as it lacked sooo much.

masiisam

Yeah and what's sad is that those who want more realism will still be racing on MS fisherprice wheel.

I use both the G25 and V2 MS wheel.....The accuracy and feel are identical...Your telling me you can tell a difference when your driving?

Yea...I bet your that guy that looks at the G25 and makes him believe he is Lewis Hamilton because yea spent 3 bills on it...

It has better materials. It has stronger force feedback (dual motors), but can also be very subtle. It has 900 degrees of rotation vs 360's 240 degrees. It has 6 speed stick shift with reverse plus a clutch pedal. It has paddle shifters. 6 speed shifter can be switched to sequental mode. pedals feel realistic. Brake pedal is very firm. Pedals, shifter, and spokes on the wheel are metsl. Also have the option to use this with PC or PS3. So yeah I can tell the difference when I am driving. You do own a g25 right?

Give Polyphony a break. You think they've just been fooling around for the last 4 years? Obviously this developer has higher standards than most so it's going to take a little longer than the regular lets-make-a-quick-and-casual-game 2 year cycle.PS2_ROCKS

The Sony faithfull are going to crap themselves when GT5 has cosmetic damage to the cars and looks exactly like Forza.

Seriously, there is no way to make GT5 car models look like the GT5P car models AND have cosmetic damage.

Plus, if it takes forever to make a GT5 car model now how long is it going to take to model the car with hundreds of damage variables?

[QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="Ironhorse001"][QUOTE="Adonymous"]

Now that's sad.

Turn10 has already had experience created a racing game for the 360, and forza 3 will blow us away (think transition between PGR3 and PGR4)

Turn10 will implement a whole lot a new features, and improve on the overall engine, while PD has only 1 chance to make a good game. Because GT6 will not hit before 2015. And the glorified demo isn't a game as it lacked sooo much.

Ironhorse001

Yeah and what's sad is that those who want more realism will still be racing on MS fisherprice wheel.

I use both the G25 and V2 MS wheel.....The accuracy and feel are identical...Your telling me you can tell a difference when your driving?

Yea...I bet your that guy that looks at the G25 and makes him believe he is Lewis Hamilton because yea spent 3 bills on it...

It has better materials. It has stronger force feedback (dual motors), but can also be very subtle. It has 900 degrees of rotation vs 360's 240 degrees. It has 6 speed stick shift with reverse plus a clutch pedal. It has paddle shifters. 6 speed shifter can be switched to sequental mode. pedals feel realistic. Brake pedal is very firm. Pedals, shifter, and spokes on the wheel are metsl. Also have the option to use this with PC or PS3. So yeah I can tell the difference when I am driving. You do own a g25 right?

[QUOTE="Ironhorse001"][QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="Ironhorse001"][QUOTE="Adonymous"]

Now that's sad.

Turn10 has already had experience created a racing game for the 360, and forza 3 will blow us away (think transition between PGR3 and PGR4)

Turn10 will implement a whole lot a new features, and improve on the overall engine, while PD has only 1 chance to make a good game. Because GT6 will not hit before 2015. And the glorified demo isn't a game as it lacked sooo much.

angelkimne

Yeah and what's sad is that those who want more realism will still be racing on MS fisherprice wheel.

I use both the G25 and V2 MS wheel.....The accuracy and feel are identical...Your telling me you can tell a difference when your driving?

Yea...I bet your that guy that looks at the G25 and makes him believe he is Lewis Hamilton because yea spent 3 bills on it...

It has better materials. It has stronger force feedback (dual motors), but can also be very subtle. It has 900 degrees of rotation vs 360's 240 degrees. It has 6 speed stick shift with reverse plus a clutch pedal. It has paddle shifters. 6 speed shifter can be switched to sequental mode. pedals feel realistic. Brake pedal is very firm. Pedals, shifter, and spokes on the wheel are metsl. Also have the option to use this with PC or PS3. So yeah I can tell the difference when I am driving. You do own a g25 right?

Just the fact it can be used on two different platforms also make it worth it. Since it can't be used with 360 so there is nothing to worry about.

Where can I get my own Crystal ball? I wanna know if the world will end in 2012.Hitman533

Yeah but GT5 will have over 10k cars !!!!!!!!!!!!

angelkimne

Of which 20 you will actually want to drive!

[QUOTE="-GhostMLD-"]

That means Forza 2 is the undisputed winner of racing sims from 07-08, maybe even 09. It won with 0 competition from Sony.

Wow, didnt think it be THIS EASY to take away the sim crown from sony :lol:

Mongo-Boss

I don't know if it can beat it but there is competition.

Not a chance, it's not a simulation...

[QUOTE="masiisam"][QUOTE="Ironhorse001"][QUOTE="Adonymous"]

Now that's sad.

Turn10 has already had experience created a racing game for the 360, and forza 3 will blow us away (think transition between PGR3 and PGR4)

Turn10 will implement a whole lot a new features, and improve on the overall engine, while PD has only 1 chance to make a good game. Because GT6 will not hit before 2015. And the glorified demo isn't a game as it lacked sooo much.

Ironhorse001

Yeah and what's sad is that those who want more realism will still be racing on MS fisherprice wheel.

I use both the G25 and V2 MS wheel.....The accuracy and feel are identical...Your telling me you can tell a difference when your driving?

Yea...I bet your that guy that looks at the G25 and makes him believe he is Lewis Hamilton because yea spent 3 bills on it...

It has better materials. It has stronger force feedback (dual motors), but can also be very subtle. It has 900 degrees of rotation vs 360's 240 degrees. It has 6 speed stick shift with reverse plus a clutch pedal. It has paddle shifters. 6 speed shifter can be switched to sequental mode. pedals feel realistic. Brake pedal is very firm. Pedals, shifter, and spokes on the wheel are metsl. Also have the option to use this with PC or PS3. So yeah I can tell the difference when I am driving. You do own a g25 right?

Yes i have both the G25 and V2 MS wheel...as stated before..

All valid points when you are not driving and staring at the thing...My question was "When you are driving"???...I never said the QC was the same...The G25 does have that on the V2 MS wheel..(I would hope so it is 3 times the price)..

The truth of the matter is the MS wheel is a third of the price and is identical when it comes to the accuracy of the G25...You will not turn faster laps time because of the G25..IF you want to justify the materials in the 299 price tag..thats fine....BUt to say the others are garbage is just that....garbage...

Your comment on how the MS wheel limits the immersion of the games is utterly false and inaccurate...With that said do you even own/tried a V2 MS wheel?

How does anyone respect Poly anymore. Takes forever for them to release the games, No damage, Forza is a more proven series, they charge for demos.

poly has started to become a joke.