Forza 3 will be the best Car Game this gen PERIOD!!!!!!!!!

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#51 PSdual_wielder
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that was an objective statement.Synthetic_NinJI

What part :| What this statement is:

But since this is system wars and everything goes by GS standards yeah it is difficult for sony fanboys to argue.

Yes that is fact, can't disagree there.

Professionals and real car enthusiasts say otherwise.

This isn't. That isn't even opinion, just a complete lie :|

Yeah I actually know the opposite to be true but I'm just BSing about it. SURRRREEEEE

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#52 DonPerian
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[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"][QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

Yea thats wrong I guess, but GT5's car physics are just better. :)

PSdual_wielder

:| You actually have to play Forza, or GT5 for that matter (lolz) to make a comment like that. Otherwise it you look like a raging fanboy.

minus the raging, im very calm right now, just studying for my finals and came up here for fun.

and I've played GT2, GT3, GT4, and GT5 prologue, not forza however, I'll be honest with that one.

Then your statement is completely irrational. To say something is better means you must have experience with the two subjects involved in the comparison.

Logic, it's good for you.

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#53 Rhubarb9
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that was an objective statement.Synthetic_NinJI

What part :| What this statement is:

But since this is system wars and everything goes by GS standards yeah it is difficult for sony fanboys to argue.

Yes that is fact, can't disagree there.

Professionals and real car enthusiasts say otherwise.

This isn't. That isn't even opinion, just a complete lie :|



the guys at paris autoshow must be sony fanboys then

http://www.psfk.com/2008/10/citroen-and-gran-turismo-debut-a-real-car-for-the-virtual-world.html




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#54 BioShockOwnz
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Most would consider me a real car enthusiast, because I'm a tuner (I've blogged about it w/ pics). And I'd have to say Forza offers a much richer simulation experience. From what I've seen actually, most actually thinkForza is the superior. GT is behind the curve, except when it comes to graphics, of course.

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#55 EmperorSupreme
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I haven't heard anything about Forza 3 so I don't know. In general I think lemmings over hype Forza 2. I haven't seen anything special about the physics. I will say that the customization of the cars is pretty cool if you are into that. I have friends that spend more time painting the cars than driving them and if that's what they like more power to them.
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#56 Synthetic_NinJI
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[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"]

that was an objective statement.Rhubarb9

What part :| What this statement is:

But since this is system wars and everything goes by GS standards yeah it is difficult for sony fanboys to argue.

Yes that is fact, can't disagree there.

Professionals and real car enthusiasts say otherwise.

This isn't. That isn't even opinion, just a complete lie :|

the guys at paris autoshow must be sony fanboys then

You see people, this is why reading comprehension is ever so important.

Please direct me to where it says "GT is 'better' than Forza", otherwise, set yourself aside.

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#57 Nonstop-Madness
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GT is a better driving sim, but Forza is a better driving game.
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#58 Synthetic_NinJI
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GT is a better driving sim, but Forza is a better driving game. Nonstop-Madness
The other way around.
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#59 PSdual_wielder
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[QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"] :| You actually have to play Forza, or GT5 for that matter (lolz) to make a comment like that. Otherwise it you look like a raging fanboy.DonPerian

minus the raging, im very calm right now, just studying for my finals and came up here for fun.

and I've played GT2, GT3, GT4, and GT5 prologue, not forza however, I'll be honest with that one.

Then your statement is completely irrational. To say something is better means you must have experience with the two subjects involved in the comparison.

Logic, it's good for you.

Finally someone picked this up. Yes I put it in there on purpose, good for you finding it.

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#60 Rhubarb9
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Please direct me to where it says "GT is 'better' than Forza", otherwise, set yourself aside.

Synthetic_NinJI



You said "Professionals and real car enthusiasts say otherwise." was a lie
and I say you don't see forza do anything like this

http://www.gamingbits.com/content/view/4137/2/

also this with nissan.

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Most would consider me a real car enthusiast, because I'm a tuner (I've blogged about it w/ pics). And I'd have to say Forza offers a much richer simulation experience. From what I've seen actually, most actually thinkForza is the superior. GT is behind the curve, except when it comes to graphics, of course.

BioShockOwnz
Lemme see. Wait, what cars were they, Actually, psot whats cars then links so i can decide if its worth looking at. I've tuned a AE86 into one similar to that in Initial D
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#62 All_that_is_Man
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GT5 will be great but Forza is the real deal it truly is Forza is the real deal. I expect Forza 3 to make a statement and say yes we are the BEST just like 1-2 was. Again GT5 will be great and this is not a bash on GT5. This is just going to be the way it works Forza is the best race sim there is PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ronjon_09

ehhh GT and forza series both blow bawlz....>.> Im into Need for speed, maybe their racing sim coming out will actually be good

But GRID was pretty good to I enjoyed it

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#63 PSdual_wielder
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[QUOTE="Synthetic_NinJI"]

Please direct me to where it says "GT is 'better' than Forza", otherwise, set yourself aside.

Rhubarb9



You said "Professionals and real car enthusiasts say otherwise." was a lie
and I say you don't see forza do anything like this

http://www.gamingbits.com/content/view/4137/2/

also this with nissan.

The thing with SW is that its really hard to get everyone to reply to your comments in a respectful manner without nitpicking the words in your statements until its absolutely flawless and that people won't divert the arguments into ranting about your choice of words. This place is basically a courtroom with angry people.

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#64 tirralirra
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[QUOTE="ronjon_09"]GT5 will be great but Forza is the real deal it truly is Forza is the real deal. I expect Forza 3 to make a statement and say yes we are the BEST just like 1-2 was. Again GT5 will be great and this is not a bash on GT5. This is just going to be the way it works Forza is the best race sim there is PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!All_that_is_Man

ehhh GT and forza series both blow bawlz....>.> Im into Need for speed, maybe their racing sim coming out will actually be good

But GRID was pretty good to I enjoyed it

need for speed is the most ridicolous driving game. hot purssuit was their last good one. arcade driving game goes to burnout
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[QUOTE="tirralirra"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Most would consider me a real car enthusiast, because I'm a tuner (I've blogged about it w/ pics). And I'd have to say Forza offers a much richer simulation experience. From what I've seen actually, most actually thinkForza is the superior. GT is behind the curve, except when it comes to graphics, of course.

Lemme see. Wait, what cars were they, Actually, psot whats cars then links so i can decide if its worth looking at. I've tuned a AE86 into one similar to that in Initial D

I'm guessing you're only obsessing about this to blow your own trumpet, but can I just say the tuning and handling of cars is almost irrelevant when comparing GT and Forza because of the travesty that is the AI in GT games.
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#66 Salt_The_Fries
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Gran Turismo has the most rabid fanboys, I'd say.
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#67 tirralirra
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Gran Turismo has the most rabid fanboys, I'd say.Salt_The_Fries
What do you expects, it s a big franchise, look at Halo.
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#68 Night-Wolf93
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Forza3 is going to be boring just like GT5...i think Mario Kart is much funner with less graphics lol.

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#69 lancer_87
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I say dont jump to conclusions.GT series has a very good history of slaying any driving simulator around.GT4 is pretty old and cant compare that to the upcoming GT5.Lets wait and see.

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#70 ColdfireTrilogy
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well my opinion is that ramming a car into a wall at 80 MPH let alone 180MPH+ and have it EVEN DRIVE AT ALL is as unrealistic as no damage at all, especially when were talking about carbon fiber super cars ... seriously ...
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#71 II-FBIsniper-II
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Don't believe me? Take a look.The_Game21x
 :shock: I must have that set up.
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#72 tirralirra
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]Don't believe me? Take a look.II-FBIsniper-II
 :shock: I must have that set up.

I had that steering wheel setup, the force feedvack was sooooo strong. Oh, and the argument for wall-riding is, dont do it.
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#73 Eddie-Vedder
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Imo the only thing Forza has over GT is damage. I feel GT is a lot more realistic in it's feeling and just overall a better franchise. I'm not comparing a proglogue to Forza 2 cause well that's unfair.

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#74 PoppaGamer
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I don't doubt it. Forza has outscored GT the last two times. I think Forza 3 WILL be the best Forza experience to date.

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Really? What GT title did Forza 2 beat? Prologue? :lol:
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#75 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I don't doubt it. Forza has outscored GT the last two times. I think Forza 3 WILL be the best Forza experience to date.

PoppaGamer
Really? What GT title did Forza 2 beat? Prologue? :lol:

That, and GT4.
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#76 Synthetic_NinJI
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I don't doubt it. Forza has outscored GT the last two times. I think Forza 3 WILL be the best Forza experience to date.

PoppaGamer

Really? What GT title did Forza 2 beat? Prologue? :lol:

Forza one beat GT4, actually.

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#77 shutdown_202
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Im not much of a racing sim fan but i cant believe theres going to be 3 AAA forza titles released before one GT title. That there is ownage to whoever develops GT.

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#78 PoppaGamer
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I don't doubt it. Forza has outscored GT the last two times. I think Forza 3 WILL be the best Forza experience to date.

Really? What GT title did Forza 2 beat? Prologue? :lol:

That, and GT4.

Wow. A 360 title beat out a PS2 title!!
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] Really? What GT title did Forza 2 beat? Prologue? :lol:PoppaGamer
That, and GT4.

Wow. A 360 title beat out a PS2 title!!

:| Selective reading for the win? Forza ONE beat GT4.
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] Really? What GT title did Forza 2 beat? Prologue? :lol:PoppaGamer
That, and GT4.

Wow. A 360 title beat out a PS2 title!!

Swing& a miss! Forza on Xbox beat out GT4 on PS2.

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#81 Rikusaki
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This is why Gran Turismo is better IMO:

    • Apricot Hill Speedway
    • Autumn Ring
    • Autumn Ring Mini
    • Cathedral Rocks Trail I
    • Cathedral Rocks Trail II
    • Cittia Di Aria
    • Chamonix
    • Clubman Stage Route 5
    • Complex String
    • Deep Forest
    • Deer Creek Highway, Mt. Charleston (The Vanishing Boy)
    • Driving Park 50m Circle
    • Driving Park 100m Circle
    • Driving Park Test Course
    • Driving Park Motorland
    • Driving Park Gymkhana
    • Driving Park Beginner Course
    • Downtown Baltimore (Bones Brigade)
    • Eiger Nordwand
    • El Capitan
    • Emerald Queen
    • Emerald Queen II
    • George V Paris
    • Gran Turismo 1/2 Test Course
    • Grand Canyon
    • Grand Valley Speedway (GT1/2)
    • Grand Valley Speedway (GT3)
    • Grand Valley Speedway (GT4)
    • Grand Valley East Section
    • Grand View Drive Circuit, Peoria, IL (Jim Prower)
    • Green Forest Roadway
    • Great Bridge East Course (Driving Park)
    • Great Bridge West Course (Driving Park)
    • Great Bridge Circuit (Driving Park)
    • Grindelwald
    • High Speed Ring (GT1)
    • High Speed Ring (GT4)
    • Highway 161
    • Highway 161 II
    • Hong Kong
    • Ice Arena
    • Kennon Road (The Vanishing Boy)
    • Las Vegas Strip Short circuit, (The Vanishing Boy)
    • Las Vegas Strip full course, (The Vanishing Boy)
    • London Grand Prix "Jon Edwards circuit"
    • London Circuit
    • London Regent's Park (Do You Race?)
    • London Meridian Mile (Do You Race?)
    • Marcos Highway (The Vanishing Boy)
    • Madrid (?)
    • Midfield Raceway (GT2/3)
    • Midfield Raceway (GT4)
    • MLK Raceway (Bones Brigade)
    • Morrison, Steele Raceway (Bones Brigade)
    • Manila, Philippines (The Vanishing Boy)
    • New York
    • Opera Paris
    • Paris Rendezvous
    • Palio de Seina
    • Phidelphia Liberty ****c
    • Red Rock Valley Speedway
    • Rome Circuit Full Course
    • Rome Short Course
    • Rome Night
    • Seattle Circuit Full Course
    • Seattle Circuit Short
    • Seoul Central
    • Smokey Mountian North
    • Smokey Mountain South
    • Special Stage R5 Clubman
    • Special Stage R5
    • Special Stage R11 (GT1)
    • Special Stage R11 (GT3)
    • Stadium Raceway (Bones Brigade)
    • Super Speedway
    • Swiss Alps
    • Tacoma Downtown Course (Bones Brigade)
    • Tacoma Downtown Course II (Bones Brigade)
    • Tahiti Road
    • Tahiti Circuit
    • Tahiti Maze
    • Timra Circuit (PuTTe_TuTTe)
    • Tokyo R246
    • Trial Mountain

These are all EXCLUSIVE tracks to Gran Turismo. No other racing game will have these.

I don't care about physics and I don't care about putting decal stickers on the cars.

This is why I love Gran Turismo: Variety.

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#82 shutdown_202
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] Really? What GT title did Forza 2 beat? Prologue? :lol:PoppaGamer
That, and GT4.

Wow. A 360 title beat out a PS2 title!!

I think he meant Forza 1 destroyed GT4 and forza 2 destroyed prologue. I still remember the massive ownage when the GT4 review came in and flopped and then a week later the forza review came in scoring AAA. Huge cow ownage.

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#83 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"] That, and GT4. shutdown_202

Wow. A 360 title beat out a PS2 title!!

I think he meant Forza 1 destroyed GT4 and forza 2 destroyed prologue. I still remember the massive ownage when the GT4 review came in and flopped and then a week later the forza review came in scoring AAA. Huge cow ownage.

i remember that day i had steaks all week.

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[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"] That, and GT4. shutdown_202

Wow. A 360 title beat out a PS2 title!!

I think he meant Forza 1 destroyed GT4 and forza 2 destroyed prologue. I still remember the massive ownage when the GT4 review came in and flopped and then a week later the forza review came in scoring AAA. Huge cow ownage.

I wonder what reactions were there back then :)
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] Really? What GT title did Forza 2 beat? Prologue? :lol:PoppaGamer
That, and GT4.

Wow. A 360 title beat out a PS2 title!!

Hey, you asked the question; don't get mad at me for answering it. :wink:

But, since you don't like comparisons between generations...

Forza Motorsport: 9.2

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This is why Gran Turismo is better IMO:

These are all EXCLUSIVE tracks to Gran Turismo. No other racing game will have these.

I don't care about physics and I don't care about putting decal stickers on the cars.

This is why I love Gran Turismo: Variety.

Rikusaki

Gameplay >>>> all in racing games imo

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#87 II-FBIsniper-II
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[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"] That, and GT4. Synthetic_NinJI
Wow. A 360 title beat out a PS2 title!!

:| Selective reading for the win? Forza ONE beat GT4.

And I don't expect PoppaGamer to come back to this thread.
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#88 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

This is why Gran Turismo is better IMO:

These are all EXCLUSIVE tracks to Gran Turismo. No other racing game will have these.

I don't care about physics and I don't care about putting decal stickers on the cars.

This is why I love Gran Turismo: Variety.

kozzy1234

Gameplay >>>> all in racing games imo

Of course the gameplay is good in both Forza and GT, but Forza was lacking greatly in track selection.

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#89 munu9
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I don't doubt it. Forza has outscored GT the last two times. I think Forza 3 WILL be the best Forza experience to date.

BioShockOwnz
I don't know, in terms of what made Forza special. It's basically reached a limit. What could they possibly do with the physics to make Forza 3 stand out from Froza 2?
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#90 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

This is why Gran Turismo is better IMO:

These are all EXCLUSIVE tracks to Gran Turismo. No other racing game will have these.

I don't care about physics and I don't care about putting decal stickers on the cars.

This is why I love Gran Turismo: Variety.

Rikusaki

Gameplay >>>> all in racing games imo

Of course the gameplay is good in both Forza and GT, but Forza was lacking greatly in track selection.

Forza lacks in tracks, while GT lacks in gameplay,physics and custimization. Ill take better gameplay anyday over graphics and more tracks. Lifetime GT fan here, but Forza has been king for awhile now imo. Why? Because its got the most realistic gameplay, plus i enjoy the physics and the custimization that is out of this world. GT definatly is king of graphics and levels though.

GT also deserves some props for being out first and setting the standard, imo Forza has just raised the bar though now a days.

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#91 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Gameplay >>>> all in racing games imo

kozzy1234

Of course the gameplay is good in both Forza and GT, but Forza was lacking greatly in track selection.

Forza lacks in tracks, while GT lacks in gameplay,physics and custimization. Ill take better gameplay anyday over graphics and more tracks. Lifetime GT fan here, but Forza has been king for awhile now imo.

How is it lacking in gameplay? I think the cars are just fun to drive. I don't really care about the physics that much as long as it is fun to drive each car in the game.
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#93 shutdown_202
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[QUOTE="PoppaGamer"] Wow. A 360 title beat out a PS2 title!! Salt_The_Fries

I think he meant Forza 1 destroyed GT4 and forza 2 destroyed prologue. I still remember the massive ownage when the GT4 review came in and flopped and then a week later the forza review came in scoring AAA. Huge cow ownage.

I wonder what reactions were there back then :)

Almost on the level of TP flopping back in 06. GT4 getting .1 from AAA was bad enough but for forza to get AAA a week later, a game cows endlessly bashed was too funny, massive cowexodus. I remember laughing at cows and lemmings going back and forwards over a number because at the end of the day, they both got amazing games so they both win really.

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#94 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"] Of course the gameplay is good in both Forza and GT, but Forza was lacking greatly in track selection.

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Forza lacks in tracks, while GT lacks in gameplay,physics and custimization. Ill take better gameplay anyday over graphics and more tracks. Lifetime GT fan here, but Forza has been king for awhile now imo.

How is it lacking in gameplay? I think the cars are just fun to drive. I don't really care about the physics that much as long as it is fun to drive each car in the game.

IMO the gameplay in Forza is better, its more realistic and thats what i want in a racer personally. GT doesnt have terrible gameplay by any means, i just think Forza has the gameplay title for racing games.

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#95 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"][QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

I think he meant Forza 1 destroyed GT4 and forza 2 destroyed prologue. I still remember the massive ownage when the GT4 review came in and flopped and then a week later the forza review came in scoring AAA. Huge cow ownage.

shutdown_202

I wonder what reactions were there back then :)

Almost on the level of TP flopping back in 06. GT4 getting .1 from AAA was bad enough but for forza to get AAA a week later, a game cows endlessly bashed was too funny, massive cowexodus. I remember laughing at cows and lemmings going back and forwards over a number because at the end of the day, they both got amazing games so they both win really.

Forza really surprised me, i thought they where crazy to try and match GT, but low and behold they did what i thought was impossible at the time..... dethrone the king of racing sims... GT.

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#96 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"] I wonder what reactions were there back then :)kozzy1234

Almost on the level of TP flopping back in 06. GT4 getting .1 from AAA was bad enough but for forza to get AAA a week later, a game cows endlessly bashed was too funny, massive cowexodus. I remember laughing at cows and lemmings going back and forwards over a number because at the end of the day, they both got amazing games so they both win really.

Forza really surprised me, i thought they where crazy to try and match GT, but low and behold they did what i thought was impossible at the time..... dethrone the king of racing sims... GT.

GT isn't really a pure racing sim. Just look at racing sims on the PC. THOSE are the true driving simulators.
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#98 lancer_87
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I don't doubt it. Forza has outscored GT the last two times. I think Forza 3 WILL be the best Forza experience to date.

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Really? What GT title did Forza 2 beat? Prologue? :lol:

That, and GT4.

Comparing GT 4 and GT 5 prologue to Forza 2 is pure stupidity.GT4 is a game of the PAST,and last gen.But dont forget that it was revolutionary in its time.And GT 5 prologue is a DEMO.What part of a DEMO you dont understand ? Get Forza 2 DEMO and compare that to GT 5.
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#100 Rockman999
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Best "car" game?No, Grand Theft Auto 4 already won that title.95+ on both metacritic and gamerankings.If you mean racing simulator then also no.The ladies of the xbox denomination like to state opinions as fact and claim that Forza is the better racing simulator franchise when the GT franchise is regarded as the true racing simulator by the Pro-Racing industry.Now don't get me wrong Forza is great and all but it's not the Racing Simulator King.