Forza 3 will be the best Car Game this gen PERIOD!!!!!!!!!

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#101 JigglyWiggly_
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Why do you guys like trashy sims? Play Live for speed or gtr2...
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#102 djsifer01
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I mean what series are this gen. As for GT5 vs. Forza 3 face-off we'll have to wait and see.Salt_The_Fries
agreed and i dont think Forza will come out on top GT5 is going to be a masterpiece.
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#103 tontontam0
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Forza's rating is higher than GT yeah that is true "HERE in GAMESPOT."

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Best "car" game?No, Grand Theft Auto 4 already won that title.95+ on both metacritic and gamerankings.If you mean racing simulator then also no.The ladies of the xbox denomination like to state opinions as fact and claim that Forza is the better racing simulator franchise when the GT franchise is regarded as the true racing simulator by the Pro-Racing industry.Now don't get me wrong Forza is great and all but it's not the Racing Simulator King.Rockman999
Regarded as a true simulator by a Pro-Racing industry? I'm assuming you have proof of that, right? And please, no marketing hype...
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Almost on the level of TP flopping back in 06. GT4 getting .1 from AAA was bad enough but for forza to get AAA a week later, a game cows endlessly bashed was too funny, massive cowexodus. I remember laughing at cows and lemmings going back and forwards over a number because at the end of the day, they both got amazing games so they both win really.

Rikusaki

Forza really surprised me, i thought they where crazy to try and match GT, but low and behold they did what i thought was impossible at the time..... dethrone the king of racing sims... GT.

GT isn't really a pure racing sim. Just look at racing sims on the PC. THOSE are the true driving simulators.

Race Pro is a true racing sim and gess what? Its another 360 exclusive :P

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#107 lancer_87
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Forza really surprised me, i thought they where crazy to try and match GT, but low and behold they did what i thought was impossible at the time..... dethrone the king of racing sims... GT.

PAL360

GT isn't really a pure racing sim. Just look at racing sims on the PC. THOSE are the true driving simulators.

Race Pro is a true racing sim and gess what? Its another 360 exclusive :P

And guess what ? IT FLOPPED ! :P
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#109 II-FBIsniper-II
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Forza's rating is higher than GT yeah that is true "HERE in GAMESPOT."

tontontam0
And GameRankings as well as MetaCritic. :|
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#110 shawn7324
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I'm looking forward to DIRT 2 more.

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[QUOTE="Rockman999"]Best "car" game?No, Grand Theft Auto 4 already won that title.95+ on both metacritic and gamerankings.If you mean racing simulator then also no.The ladies of the xbox denomination like to state opinions as fact and claim that Forza is the better racing simulator franchise when the GT franchise is regarded as the true racing simulator by the Pro-Racing industry.Now don't get me wrong Forza is great and all but it's not the Racing Simulator King.The_Game21x
Regarded as a true simulator by a Pro-Racing industry? I'm assuming you have proof of that, right? And please, no marketing hype...



http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-255156.aspx

I'm guessing forza players get to drive real racing cars all the time right?

"Yep, real life racers utilize the racing simulator known as Gran Turismo to keep their abilities honed. Their motive for doing this is when a new track opens up for Formula 1 racers. Sometimes they can't get on the track to train before a race, so they fire up Gran Turismo and take the virtual tour. It makes perfect sense, doesn't it?"
http://playstation.joystiq.com/2008/01/07/real-race-car-drivers-use-gran-turismo-to-train/

oh gee would you look at that? :o

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#112 PAL360
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Forza really surprised me, i thought they where crazy to try and match GT, but low and behold they did what i thought was impossible at the time..... dethrone the king of racing sims... GT.

PAL360

GT isn't really a pure racing sim. Just look at racing sims on the PC. THOSE are the true driving simulators.

Race Pro is a true racing sim and gess what? Its another 360 exclusive :P

It wasnt hyped more than A :evil:

Anyway, i prefer Forza2 by far :)

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#113 Next-Gen-Tec
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]

Got a screenshots of Forza 3 to back up your claims????

Ross_the_B0SS

I don't think he is talking about graphics...

He's talking about the stuff that...you know, actually matters.

The shininess?
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Rockman999"]Best "car" game?No, Grand Theft Auto 4 already won that title.95+ on both metacritic and gamerankings.If you mean racing simulator then also no.The ladies of the xbox denomination like to state opinions as fact and claim that Forza is the better racing simulator franchise when the GT franchise is regarded as the true racing simulator by the Pro-Racing industry.Now don't get me wrong Forza is great and all but it's not the Racing Simulator King.Rhubarb9

Regarded as a true simulator by a Pro-Racing industry? I'm assuming you have proof of that, right? And please, no marketing hype...



http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-255156.aspx

I'm guessing forza players get to drive real racing cars all the time right?

"Yep, real life racers utilize the racing simulator known as Gran Turismo to keep their abilities honed. Their motive for doing this is when a new track opens up for Formula 1 racers. Sometimes they can't get on the track to train before a race, so they fire up Gran Turismo and take the virtual tour. It makes perfect sense, doesn't it?"
http://playstation.joystiq.com/2008/01/07/real-race-car-drivers-use-gran-turismo-to-train/

oh gee would you look at that? :o

For your first link, I said no marketing hype. What do you think that is? A contest sponsored by Sony and Nissan (whose new GTR is featured prominently on the box art but there's definitely no ulterior motives there...) is marketing.

As for the second...

"At one point, Mika Salo turns to me and asks, "Do you guys have (the circuit) Long Beach in this game? I've never driven it before and I need to learn it for the next race." Although I had to explain that Forza Motorsport 2 was not a dedicated ALMS game, it felt great to have Mika Salo tell you that Forza Motorsport 2 and the triple-screen setup is something he would purchase to practice for races."

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#115 shutdown_202
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Personally i think the best car game are the Rallisport Challenge on the Xbox (both scored 9.1 and 9.3 here). These games are amazing and i cant believe their isnt a 3rd yet. Im thinking of picking the second game up again, does anyone know if its BC with the 360?

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Personally i think the best car game are the Rallisport Challenge on the Xbox (both scored 9.1 and 9.3 here). These games are amazing and i cant believe their isnt a 3rd yet. Im thinking of picking the second game up again, does anyone know if its BC with the 360?

shutdown_202
The first one is, no go on the second.
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#117 12345678ew
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yahn. forza spends too much time customizing, not enough racing and beating stuff up. i say burnout paradise for ps3. (the grapgics don't suk on ps3)

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#118 lancer_87
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"] Regarded as a true simulator by a Pro-Racing industry? I'm assuming you have proof of that, right? And please, no marketing hype...The_Game21x



http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-255156.aspx

I'm guessing forza players get to drive real racing cars all the time right?

"Yep, real life racers utilize the racing simulator known as Gran Turismo to keep their abilities honed. Their motive for doing this is when a new track opens up for Formula 1 racers. Sometimes they can't get on the track to train before a race, so they fire up Gran Turismo and take the virtual tour. It makes perfect sense, doesn't it?"
http://playstation.joystiq.com/2008/01/07/real-race-car-drivers-use-gran-turismo-to-train/

oh gee would you look at that? :o

For your first link, I said no marketing hype. What do you think that is? A contest sponsored by Sony and Nissan (whose new GTR is featured prominently on the box art but there's definitely no ulterior motives there...) is marketing.

As for the second...

"At one point, Mika Salo turns to me and asks, "Do you guys have (the circuit) Long Beach in this game? I've never driven it before and I need to learn it for the next race." Although I had to explain that Forza Motorsport 2 was not a dedicated ALMS game, it felt great to have Mika Salo tell you that Forza Motorsport 2 and the triple-screen setup is something he would purchase to practice for races."

First,that simulator is not running on Xbox 360.Its actually on 3xXbox 360 :P.So in other words NOT on 360 :D

Second,over 50 million franchise sales of GT series alone is enough to account for the best car simulator game ever ;).

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#119 wackapacka
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[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"][QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

I think he meant Forza 1 destroyed GT4 and forza 2 destroyed prologue. I still remember the massive ownage when the GT4 review came in and flopped and then a week later the forza review came in scoring AAA. Huge cow ownage.

shutdown_202

I wonder what reactions were there back then :)

Almost on the level of TP flopping back in 06. GT4 getting .1 from AAA was bad enough but for forza to get AAA a week later, a game cows endlessly bashed was too funny, massive cowexodus. I remember laughing at cows and lemmings going back and forwards over a number because at the end of the day, they both got amazing games so they both win really.

TP did NOT flop. It's the second highest scoring Zelda game?
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-255156.aspx

I'm guessing forza players get to drive real racing cars all the time right?

"Yep, real life racers utilize the racing simulator known as Gran Turismo to keep their abilities honed. Their motive for doing this is when a new track opens up for Formula 1 racers. Sometimes they can't get on the track to train before a race, so they fire up Gran Turismo and take the virtual tour. It makes perfect sense, doesn't it?"
http://playstation.joystiq.com/2008/01/07/real-race-car-drivers-use-gran-turismo-to-train/

oh gee would you look at that? :o

lancer_87

For your first link, I said no marketing hype. What do you think that is? A contest sponsored by Sony and Nissan (whose new GTR is featured prominently on the box art but there's definitely no ulterior motives there...) is marketing.

As for the second...

"At one point, Mika Salo turns to me and asks, "Do you guys have (the circuit) Long Beach in this game? I've never driven it before and I need to learn it for the next race." Although I had to explain that Forza Motorsport 2 was not a dedicated ALMS game, it felt great to have Mika Salo tell you that Forza Motorsport 2 and the triple-screen setup is something he would purchase to practice for races."

First,that simulator is not running on Xbox 360.Its actually on 3xXbox 360 :P.So in other words NOT on 360 :D

Second,over 50 million franchise sales of GT series alone is enough to account for the best car simulator game ever ;).

First...Please tell me you're not serious...:|

Second, yes, and as we all know, sales are everything. I guess that means the Halo games are the best FPS titles of all time. :|

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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"] Regarded as a true simulator by a Pro-Racing industry? I'm assuming you have proof of that, right? And please, no marketing hype...The_Game21x



http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-255156.aspx

I'm guessing forza players get to drive real racing cars all the time right?

"Yep, real life racers utilize the racing simulator known as Gran Turismo to keep their abilities honed. Their motive for doing this is when a new track opens up for Formula 1 racers. Sometimes they can't get on the track to train before a race, so they fire up Gran Turismo and take the virtual tour. It makes perfect sense, doesn't it?"
http://playstation.joystiq.com/2008/01/07/real-race-car-drivers-use-gran-turismo-to-train/

oh gee would you look at that? :o

For your first link, I said no marketing hype. What do you think that is? A contest sponsored by Sony and Nissan (whose new GTR is featured prominently on the box art but there's definitely no ulterior motives there...) is marketing.

As for the second...

"At one point, Mika Salo turns to me and asks, "Do you guys have (the circuit) Long Beach in this game? I've never driven it before and I need to learn it for the next race." Although I had to explain that Forza Motorsport 2 was not a dedicated ALMS game, it felt great to have Mika Salo tell you that Forza Motorsport 2 and the triple-screen setup is something he would purchase to practice for races."



you scoff off my sources then link to forzas own website? wow ****** incredible

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#122 HAZE-Unit
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L023Gxp4pWM

GT >>>> Forza.

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-255156.aspx

I'm guessing forza players get to drive real racing cars all the time right?

"Yep, real life racers utilize the racing simulator known as Gran Turismo to keep their abilities honed. Their motive for doing this is when a new track opens up for Formula 1 racers. Sometimes they can't get on the track to train before a race, so they fire up Gran Turismo and take the virtual tour. It makes perfect sense, doesn't it?"
http://playstation.joystiq.com/2008/01/07/real-race-car-drivers-use-gran-turismo-to-train/

oh gee would you look at that? :o

Rhubarb9

For your first link, I said no marketing hype. What do you think that is? A contest sponsored by Sony and Nissan (whose new GTR is featured prominently on the box art but there's definitely no ulterior motives there...) is marketing.

As for the second...

"At one point, Mika Salo turns to me and asks, "Do you guys have (the circuit) Long Beach in this game? I've never driven it before and I need to learn it for the next race." Although I had to explain that Forza Motorsport 2 was not a dedicated ALMS game, it felt great to have Mika Salo tell you that Forza Motorsport 2 and the triple-screen setup is something he would purchase to practice for races."



you scoff off my sources then link to forzas own website? wow ****** incredible

Alright, here's an impartial review...

Review date...October 23, 2008, well after the release of GT5 Prologue

"For Forza 2's designers, game play was job one - and it's apparent in every aspect of the game. This game's realism and driving experience are unmatched."

If you want me to find more for you, I will. :)

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#124 stricky55
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Dunno about Forza 3 as I have seen nothing of it, but I have always prefered Forza over GT, preety much beats it in nearly every department. And lol as people in here trying to putForza down,some of there comments clearly show they have not played it.

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#125 Rhubarb9
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L023Gxp4pWM

GT >>>> Forza.

HAZE-Unit



whoah thats creepy!

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#126 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

For your first link, I said no marketing hype. What do you think that is? A contest sponsored by Sony and Nissan (whose new GTR is featured prominently on the box art but there's definitely no ulterior motives there...) is marketing.

As for the second...

"At one point, Mika Salo turns to me and asks, "Do you guys have (the circuit) Long Beach in this game? I've never driven it before and I need to learn it for the next race." Although I had to explain that Forza Motorsport 2 was not a dedicated ALMS game, it felt great to have Mika Salo tell you that Forza Motorsport 2 and the triple-screen setup is something he would purchase to practice for races."

The_Game21x



you scoff off my sources then link to forzas own website? wow ****** incredible

Alright, here's an impartial review...

Review date...October 23, 2008, well after the release of GT5 Prologue

"For Forza 2's designers, game play was job one - and it's apparent in every aspect of the game. This game's realism and driving experience are unmatched."

If you want me to find more for you, I will. :)



"and ,of course, Gran Turismo ("GT") vs. Forza Motorsport. And everyone will pick the Playstation(s)'s GT series."

and they didn't even do a head to head with GT5 prologue
yes please give me decent sources that say the pro's use forza over GT

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#127 Silverbond
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TC is wrong and so is everyone who agreed with him.

Obviously Mario Kart is the best car game or racing game this gen. :|

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#128 HarlockJC
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I dislike sim racers...Give me a good arcade rarer anyday over Forza or GT
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#129 Wings_008
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i second that, the soundtracks on GT are always better though
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#130 shadowkiller11
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is this going to be a forza 2 will be the best car game this gen again but 1 year later.
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#131 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

you scoff off my sources then link to forzas own website? wow ****** incredible

Rhubarb9

Alright, here's an impartial review...

Review date...October 23, 2008, well after the release of GT5 Prologue

"For Forza 2's designers, game play was job one - and it's apparent in every aspect of the game. This game's realism and driving experience are unmatched."

If you want me to find more for you, I will. :)



"and ,of course, Gran Turismo ("GT") vs. Forza Motorsport. And everyone will pick the Playstation(s)'s GT series."

and they didn't even do a head to head with GT5 prologue
yes please give me decent sources that say the pro's use forza over GT

You forgot the rest of that paragraph.

"That said, Xbox owners need not lament as the Xbox's own flagship racer is a solid game indeed and one of the most intuitive, purest racing games available today."

Nicely done.

Does it matter that they didn't do a head to head with the two games? For all we know, they played both games and prefered Forza 2.

And I gave you a decent source which shows racers using Forza Motorsport 2 to train before a big race. Don't act as if the source is invalid purely because it comes from the Forza Motorsport website. Turn 10 didn't make those statements I quoted, the actual racers themselves did. :|

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#133 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L023Gxp4pWM

GT >>>> Forza.

Rhubarb9



whoah thats creepy!

I love that video. Just show me a game with more accurate track models.

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#134 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Alright, here's an impartial review...

Review date...October 23, 2008, well after the release of GT5 Prologue

"For Forza 2's designers, game play was job one - and it's apparent in every aspect of the game. This game's realism and driving experience are unmatched."

If you want me to find more for you, I will. :)

The_Game21x



"and ,of course, Gran Turismo ("GT") vs. Forza Motorsport. And everyone will pick the Playstation(s)'s GT series."

and they didn't even do a head to head with GT5 prologue
yes please give me decent sources that say the pro's use forza over GT

You forgot the rest of that paragraph.

"That said, Xbox owners need not lament as the Xbox's own flagship racer is a solid game indeed and one of the most intuitive, purest racing games available today."

Nicely done.

Does it matter that they didn't do a head to head with the two games? For all we know, they played both games and prefered Forza 2.

And I gave you a decent source which shows racers using Forza Motorsport 2 to train before a big race. Don't act as if the source is invalid purely because it comes from the Forza Motorsport website. Turn 10 didn't make those statements I quoted, the actual racers themselves did. :|

And here is an actual racers opinion on GT's physics engine:

Link

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#136 lancer_87
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[QUOTE="lancer_87"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

For your first link, I said no marketing hype. What do you think that is? A contest sponsored by Sony and Nissan (whose new GTR is featured prominently on the box art but there's definitely no ulterior motives there...) is marketing.

As for the second...

"At one point, Mika Salo turns to me and asks, "Do you guys have (the circuit) Long Beach in this game? I've never driven it before and I need to learn it for the next race." Although I had to explain that Forza Motorsport 2 was not a dedicated ALMS game, it felt great to have Mika Salo tell you that Forza Motorsport 2 and the triple-screen setup is something he would purchase to practice for races."

The_Game21x

First,that simulator is not running on Xbox 360.Its actually on 3xXbox 360 :P.So in other words NOT on 360 :D

Second,over 50 million franchise sales of GT series alone is enough to account for the best car simulator game ever ;).

First...Please tell me you're not serious...:|

Second, yes, and as we all know, sales are everything. I guess that means the Halo games are the best FPS titles of all time. :|

Yes it does run on 3x360s...better do some research before backing up the 360.

And yes according to majority it is the Best FPS.Same goes for GT series being the BEST . IMO

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#138 Rhubarb9
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[QUOTE="Rhubarb9"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Alright, here's an impartial review...

Review date...October 23, 2008, well after the release of GT5 Prologue

"For Forza 2's designers, game play was job one - and it's apparent in every aspect of the game. This game's realism and driving experience are unmatched."

If you want me to find more for you, I will. :)

The_Game21x



"and ,of course, Gran Turismo ("GT") vs. Forza Motorsport. And everyone will pick the Playstation(s)'s GT series."

and they didn't even do a head to head with GT5 prologue
yes please give me decent sources that say the pro's use forza over GT

You forgot the rest of that paragraph.

"That said, Xbox owners need not lament as the Xbox's own flagship racer is a solid game indeed and one of the most intuitive, purest racing games available today."

Nicely done.

Does it matter that they didn't do a head to head with the two games? For all we know, they played both games and prefered Forza 2.

And I gave you a decent source which shows racers using Forza Motorsport 2 to train before a big race. Don't act as if the source is invalid purely because it comes from the Forza Motorsport website. Turn 10 didn't make those statements I quoted, the actual racers themselves did. :|



you compare a next gen game from 2007 with a last gen game from 2005 that is failure business


and those guys only tried forza 2 out and said it was good they did'nt use it to train races as racers actually do with gran turismo

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#139 jjenkins78x
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I am not one for sims in general, GT is kind of fun just because of how realistic it looks, but in general I am all about Burnout, Midnight Club, GRID, games that are actually fun to play. Forza is not a fun game to me. It may have customization options up the yinyang but the overall controls just feel poor, and the game is really ugly on top of that. I can usually ignore jaggies but Forza 2 was a mess. PGR is a better series than Forza imo, but again I lean towards games that are more about high speeds and arcade controls than endless customization options. I love going fast but I'm not really a car person, I could care less what I am driving. Imo that new Colin McRae one with the largest open-world environment ever could easily become my favorite if it is of the same level of quality as GRID and DIRT. I forget the name of it but it's the first racing game I have read about to actually get me hyped up in a long time.
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#141 jjenkins78x
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And here is an actual racers opinion on GT's physics engine:

Link

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#142 NSR34GTR
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froza will be great but so will gt
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#143 jon_cia
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Gt Series>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Forza

sorry but forza handles like crap, has crap graphics and boring track design. GT5P with the logitech Racing wheel absolutely obliterates forza 2 with that stupid microsoft wheel (and yes I own both)

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#145 skrat_01
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I thought Forza 2 was a bit bland tbh. I like it, just nothing really jumped out or grabbed me in the long or short term. I much rather something much more pure sim like GTR2, or something more arcade like PGR4. Forza 2 occupies a middle ground that doesn't settle terribly well with my. However I did enjoy and like the game.
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#146 Rikusaki
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[QUOTE="Rikusaki"]

And here is an actual racers opinion on GT's physics engine:

Link

jjenkins78x

Rikusaki with the smackdown. High five!

*High five* And I bet nobody even read the article... :(
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#147 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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I don't doubt it. Forza has outscored GT the last two times. I think Forza 3 WILL be the best Forza experience to date.

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Sales don't make a game good..........
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#148 MasteRich
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I don't doubt it. Forza has outscored GT the last two times. I think Forza 3 WILL be the best Forza experience to date.

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Sales don't make a game good..........

Fanboys say otherwise. You guys can try to cloud your arguments with graphics and gameplay but the real reason people think it is better is because it's an exclusive.
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#150 FrozenLiquid
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I thought Forza 2 was a bit bland tbh. I like it, just nothing really jumped out or grabbed me in the long or short term. I much rather something much more pure sim like GTR2, or something more arcade like PGR4. Forza 2 occupies a middle ground that doesn't settle terribly well with my. However I did enjoy and like the game.skrat_01

I don't really understand this. See, SimBin games are made with revheads in mind, eschewing most gamer tastes for the pure racing experience. While that sounds very romantic, anyone who's actually driven a car knows there's more to pressing the accelerator and turning the wheel. You're talking about weight distribution, oversteer and understeer, fuel efficiency -- basically everything's that's part and package of driving, let alone racing. While Forza 2 is not a completely realistic simulator, it celebrates everything there is about the racing scene, respecting revheads while at the same time making it accessible to most who wouldn't actually know how to change gears on a manual vehicle. The GTR series pushes you to have something like a Logitech G25 which isn't half-heartedly sitting in front of your screen. Racing requries a hefty deal of ergonomics, so a simulation like GTR asks you to really invest in its experience. Forza 2, to put it succinctly, says that you can play its 'simulation' with the 360 controller. You're still asked to pay attention to on-track conditions and check your torque rates, but you're not going to need to clear out your room to fully appreciate the game.

What I am trying to get at is that if you like GTR 2, you're most likely really into cars, because it pulls no punches in design and 'gameplay' (if it can be called gameplay). And if you like GTR 2, you're going to enjoy Forza 2, because it is also a game made for car enthusiasts. I mean with 300 cars, you can most likely find the one you own (or will own in the near future) and, like any good fantasy, tune it up to be a street racing beast. While GTR 2 does offer fan-made content, I can tell you from experience there's nothing like seeing the car you own actually programmed in the game to be tuned up from the get go.

Essentially,SimBin games asks you to actually drive in a simulated environment, and rewards your real-world driving skills with the smooth driving you can expect from the Gran Turismo games. Forza2 takes a step back from hardcore simulation gameplay, but compensates by expanding its racing scene with production cars and a bit of street styIe. I would seriously question the person who likes one but not the other.

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As for the PGR series (my favourite), the main idea seems to be driving ridiculously expensive cars in ridiculously dangerous situations, and do stuff you will never be able to do in real life.

As if Mercedes would sell a Mclaren-SLR to someone who's going to dangerously drift all around the centre of Tokyo :lol: