Forza 5 high fidelity 1080p / 60fps vs Drive Club subpar fidelity + framerate

Of course I'm happy that Forza is looking and performing well this early in the development, but just wondering how come Drive Club (according to DF report) is struggling to achieve such fidielity & smoothness when PS4 is supposed to be the more powerful console.

Of course I'm happy that Forza is looking and performing well this early in the development, but just wondering how come Drive Club (according to DF report) is struggling to achieve such fidielity & smoothness when PS4 is supposed to be the more powerful console.

Mystery_Writer

Forza was being shown runing on PC, that's why. Some PS4 games were also being shown on PC, but others were running on dev kits. So they are probably more representative of what you'll get on "next gen" consoles. The only thing the Xbox demo's show is how a  gmaing PC would run those games.

Most of drive clubs budget went on leather padding for the seats

Because Forza 5 graphics are garbage.

 

Forza was being shown runing on PC, that's why. Some PS4 games were also being shown on PC, but others were running on dev kits. So they are probably more representative of what you'll get on "next gen" consoles. The only thing the Xbox demo's show is how a  gmaing PC would run those games.

Kinthalis

It appears that $ony have been pedalling propaganda to their fans again :?

Most of drive clubs budget went on leather padding for the seats

Sweenix

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Of course I'm happy that Forza is looking and performing well this early in the development, but just wondering how come Drive Club (according to DF report) is struggling to achieve such fidielity & smoothness when PS4 is supposed to be the more powerful console.

Kinthalis

Forza was being shown runing on PC, that's why. Some PS4 games were also being shown on PC, but others were running on dev kits. So they are probably more representative of what you'll get on "next gen" consoles. The only thing the Xbox demo's show is how a  gmaing PC would run those games.

Actually Forza 5 has been running on an Xbox dev kit. As has Ryse and KI.

Because Forza 5 graphics are garbage.

call_of_duty_10

Forza 5 will probably be the best, and best looking, racing game on any system for the next couple of years. GT6 could compete, but for some stupid reason, PD isn't making it for PS4...

incorrect :-

And yes, there were some games that were - categorically, without a shadow of a doubt - running on Xbox One hardware. It'll come as little surprise to learn that first party software was more likely to be showcased running on the new console, with Turn 10's Forza Motorsport 5 the most high profile title we saw that was visibly operating on the actual unit.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-xbox-one

sts106mat

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Because Forza 5 graphics are garbage.

PAL360

Forza 5 will probably be the best, and best looking, racing game on any system for the next couple of years. GT6 could compete, but for some stupid reason, PD isn't making it for PS4...

No day night cycle and all that jazz.call_of_duty_10

The lack of day/night cycle is disappointing, but everything will be asweome.

I'm afraid Forza might be once again the reason i'll get an MS console :) 

Its such a great racing series that shouldnt be missed !!

FM5 1080P @ 60 fps confrimed running on NEO...

Cloud powah baby !!!

Thank you Sony for sub 30FPS.faizan_faizan

Its all part of the Live, Love and Learn philosophy.

Cows will learn to enjoy 20FPS.

Of course I'm happy that Forza is looking and performing well this early in the development, but just wondering how come Drive Club (according to DF report) is struggling to achieve such fidielity & smoothness when PS4 is supposed to be the more powerful console.

Mystery_Writer

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"]Thank you Sony for sub 30FPS.RR360DD

Its all part of the Live, Love and Learn philosophy.

Cows will learn to enjoy 20FPS.

Its impressive that no one even mentiones that DC is in the Pre Alpha STage and is only 35% finished. Thats what was written on the E3 Booth Demo and said by the Devs...

they even said that they are targeting 60 FPS

The only way that forza 5 could run at that was by using a high end pc, to simulate how the cloud will work in helping the game it is not a true reflection of how the game will look just running on xbox one.

These dev kits you talk of are pc's with high end graphics cards thank you very much.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Microsoft-Says-Windows-7-Nvidia-GTX-PCs-E3-Were-Xbox-One-Dev-Kits-56834.html

just incase no one wants to read he's the ending paragraph

"Regardless, Microsoft has spoken and if they say that Windows 7 PCs with Nvidia GTX cards are dev kits for the Xbox One, then they're dev kits for the Xbox One. Just don't expect Xbox One games to look remotely similar when they actually launch for the console, given that they were running on a card that costs more than the system itself and is more powerful than both the Xbox One and PS4 combined."

Because the PS4 is barely more powerful and Turn 10 is a much better developer.ShoulderOfOrion

It's actually a lot more powerful when it comes down to it, the only reason this is because microsoft were banking on the cloud as you had to be online really to get the benefits. but will see

The only way that forza 5 could run at that was by using a high end pc, to simulate how the cloud will work in helping the game it is not a true reflection of how the game will look just running on xbox one.

These dev kits you talk of are pc's with high end graphics cards thank you very much.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Microsoft-Says-Windows-7-Nvidia-GTX-PCs-E3-Were-Xbox-One-Dev-Kits-56834.html

just incase no one wants to read he's the ending paragraph

"Regardless, Microsoft has spoken and if they say that Windows 7 PCs with Nvidia GTX cards are dev kits for the Xbox One, then they're dev kits for the Xbox One. Just don't expect Xbox One games to look remotely similar when they actually launch for the console, given that they were running on a card that costs more than the system itself and is more powerful than both the Xbox One and PS4 combined."

bezza2011

Thats pretty easy... a 7790 in a console can do way more than in a PC. And as they were using a PC withought the actual X1 architecture and the benefits of a closed console ( I doubt they have optimized that game for a random PC for E3), they just have to compensate the lack of the power with a stronger GPU in that PC. That means that the 7790 in the X1 can do much much more than in a PC and that means that its dumb to think that they are using a 7790 in a PC to show their games...

And please tell how LocoCycle needs a GTX 780... thats ridicilous

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"]Because the PS4 is barely more powerful and Turn 10 is a much better developer.bezza2011

It's actually a lot more powerful when it comes down to it, the only reason this is because microsoft were banking on the cloud as you had to be online really to get the benefits. but will see

Who even cares about racing games? They're all crap.Oil_Rope_Bombs

[QUOTE="bezza2011"]

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"]Because the PS4 is barely more powerful and Turn 10 is a much better developer.ShoulderOfOrion

It's actually a lot more powerful when it comes down to it, the only reason this is because microsoft were banking on the cloud as you had to be online really to get the benefits. but will see

[QUOTE="bezza2011"]

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"]Because the PS4 is barely more powerful and Turn 10 is a much better developer.ShoulderOfOrion

It's actually a lot more powerful when it comes down to it, the only reason this is because microsoft were banking on the cloud as you had to be online really to get the benefits. but will see

Kojima is an ideas guy, not a software developer. He doesn't know jackshit about Data Structures and things like Greedy Algorithms.

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="bezza2011"]

It's actually a lot more powerful when it comes down to it, the only reason this is because microsoft were banking on the cloud as you had to be online really to get the benefits. but will see

Davekeeh

Digital Foundry can confirm 3 games on the X1 that are running with 60 fps 1080p and using the X1 hardware.

Hmm maybe that power difference will not be as big as you are hoping huh?

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="bezza2011"]

It's actually a lot more powerful when it comes down to it, the only reason this is because microsoft were banking on the cloud as you had to be online really to get the benefits. but will see

Davekeeh

The only way that forza 5 could run at that was by using a high end pc, to simulate how the cloud will work in helping the game it is not a true reflection of how the game will look just running on xbox one.

These dev kits you talk of are pc's with high end graphics cards thank you very much.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Microsoft-Says-Windows-7-Nvidia-GTX-PCs-E3-Were-Xbox-One-Dev-Kits-56834.html

just incase no one wants to read he's the ending paragraph

"Regardless, Microsoft has spoken and if they say that Windows 7 PCs with Nvidia GTX cards are dev kits for the Xbox One, then they're dev kits for the Xbox One. Just don't expect Xbox One games to look remotely similar when they actually launch for the console, given that they were running on a card that costs more than the system itself and is more powerful than both the Xbox One and PS4 combined."

bezza2011

After all this lems still haven't learned that everything MS showed about X1 was covered in lies

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[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"] Kojima said the difference in power is minimal. He's a PlayStation-centric developer. ShoulderOfOrion

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"] Kojima said the difference in power is minimal. He's a PlayStation-centric developer. ShoulderOfOrion

Don't know how you could have been so confused about who is who especially after E3, but I took care of that error for ya

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"] Kojima said the difference in power is minimal. He's a PlayStation-centric developer. ShoulderOfOrion

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="bezza2011"]

It's actually a lot more powerful when it comes down to it, the only reason this is because microsoft were banking on the cloud as you had to be online really to get the benefits. but will see

Davekeeh

Not to mention, Halo 4, console king baby. :cool:

Because Turn 10 are masters at getting the most out of a console. I'm surprised at how good they got Forza looking on the 360, even though they were really hampered by the hardware. The only thing wrong with Forza 4's graphics was too much contrast and the lighting was wierd, but it looks like they fixed that this time around.

I just wish they would add more features to the game that improved the racing. Forza Motorsport hasn't really been about motorsport since FM2. I would love if they added pit strategy, qualifying, practice.

Because Turn 10 are masters at getting the most out of a console. I'm surprised at how good they got Forza looking on the 360, even though they were really hampered by the hardware. The only thing wrong with Forza 4's graphics was too much contrast and the lighting was wierd, but it looks like they fixed that this time around.

 

I just wish they would add more features to the game that improved the racing. Forza Motorsport hasn't really been about motorsport since FM2. I would love if they added pit strategy, qualifying, practice.

pl4yer_f0und

Static environments and prebaked lighting. That is all.

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Specs don't lie, PS4 is alot more powerful

casharmy

Don't know how you could have been so confused about who is who especially after E3, but I took care of that error for ya

[QUOTE="bezza2011"]

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"]Because the PS4 is barely more powerful and Turn 10 is a much better developer.ShoulderOfOrion

It's actually a lot more powerful when it comes down to it, the only reason this is because microsoft were banking on the cloud as you had to be online really to get the benefits. but will see

Them lazy devs must be up to no good again :shock: :twisted:

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Specs don't lie, PS4 is alot more powerfulcall_of_duty_10

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

[QUOTE="bezza2011"]

The only way that forza 5 could run at that was by using a high end pc, to simulate how the cloud will work in helping the game it is not a true reflection of how the game will look just running on xbox one.

These dev kits you talk of are pc's with high end graphics cards thank you very much.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Microsoft-Says-Windows-7-Nvidia-GTX-PCs-E3-Were-Xbox-One-Dev-Kits-56834.html

just incase no one wants to read he's the ending paragraph

"Regardless, Microsoft has spoken and if they say that Windows 7 PCs with Nvidia GTX cards are dev kits for the Xbox One, then they're dev kits for the Xbox One. Just don't expect Xbox One games to look remotely similar when they actually launch for the console, given that they were running on a card that costs more than the system itself and is more powerful than both the Xbox One and PS4 combined."

sts106mat

After all this lems still haven't learned that everything MS showed about X1 was covered in lies

50% more "flops" doesn't translate to 50% more power.

People will come to realize that this generation.

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="ShoulderOfOrion"] Kojima said the difference in power is minimal. He's a PlayStation-centric developer. SecretPolice

Not to mention, Halo 4, console king baby. :cool:

Killzone 3, GOW, Uncharted all look better than anything on 360.

Driveclub is being developed by a studio that makes arcadey cartooney racers. Forza 5 is being developed by established developers with a knowledge of AMD GPUs and a history of excellence. Or it could just be that Driveclub is barely 35% finished.