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#1 Wasdie  Moderator
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Free to play gets a really negative image thanks to years and years of sub par games that were impossible to play unless you paid the stupidly high prices for small items. Some popular examples would be Runescape, Silkroad Online, restricted MMOs like Dungeons and Dragons online or Lord of the Rings Online which don't let you play the full game without paying, crappy Counterstrike rip offs like War Rock and Combat Arms, half-assed attempts to port full games to free to play like Battlefield Play 4 Free and FEAR Combat, or extremely outdated games like Quake Arena and the original Command and Conquer or GTA games.

These games never provided the same experiances as a full game despite some of them having some fantastic production values. They always felt unfinished and never really stood out in the market. However in the past few years that has all changed.

While the F2P style of retail was being explored by MMOs about to go belly up, Leauge of Legends kicked it into high gear showing that free players can be given a full game experience without having to pay a penny. The difference between League of Legends and other F2P games at the time was that the developers designed the full game to be F2P from the beginning and were very generous with their pricing strategy. They also continue to add content and enhance and balance the game. Today LoL has 32 million subscribers and now has Valve breathing down their necks with DotA 2, which will also be F2P.

Speaking of Valve, they decided to go full on with the F2P with Team Fortress 2. Instead of stripping out stuff between free and premium, they built a cash shop with cosmetic items that had no real effect on gameplay. The result was massive amount of profits with the game being totally free to everybody.

Now this year we have a slew of very innovative titles that are being built from the ground up with the F2P mentality.

Tribes Ascend is in beta right now and is a full revitalization of the series. It's totally free to play with players being able to unlock new ****s to play the more they play. The game is also being talored for strict competition with a lot of gameplay and balancing tweaks being added weekly to make the game as competitive as possible. This should prove marketable in the recent surge of e-sports.

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Firefall is a FPS/TPS action MMO that puts hundreds of players together in a world where they fight to stay alive. The game also looks extremely innovative with a very colorful art**** a PvE focus, jetpacks, and a very innovative way of building the game world using real life terrain on a 1:1 scale.

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End of Nations is the first true MMORTS ever made. Being developed by the original Westwood team and the creator of Dune 2, End of Nations features 50 players in a single environment fighting against one large AI driven enemy.

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Planetside 2. The sequel to Planetside. This one promises to be bigger and better in every single way. While other shooters like BF3 proudly boast their 32 vs 32 player matches Planetside 2 has battle across a persistent world feature 500 vs 500 vs 500 player battles over 64 square kilometers of terrain. Item shop is purely cosmetic. Teamwork is an absolute must.

Super Monday Night Combat. I loved Monday Night Combat on the Xbox 360 but I always felt it really had a lot of untapped potential. Well they've tapped it. SMNC is a TPS MOBA game in the same light as League of Legends. It's still highly in beta right now but is a ton of fun and has a lot of ****

Those fivegames are some of the most unique and innovative games I've ever seen in my life and they are coming to the PC.

My question is, what the heck can the consoles do to combat this? All of those games above are being built for F2P customers. This means that while their high end graphical reqiurements will be for gamers, the games will scale for people who don't have gaming rigs. This expansion of their market will really help rake in the sales as gamers have proven they are willing to spend some money on these free to play games.

Microsoft charges for online play and Sony is pushing online passes while the PC gamers get innovative and high quality games for free. Seems almost unfair.

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#2 PraetorianMan
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You forgot World of Tanks.

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#3 freedomfreak
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I think I have Rise of Nations..uhm.Yeah,the game+thrones and patriots.

never played it.

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#4 Yangire
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You forgot World of Tanks.

PraetorianMan

I think he's talking about games from this year, and the business model behind WoT might go against his point.

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#5 GiantAssPanda
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You mean the current big advantage?
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#6 Wasdie  Moderator
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You forgot World of Tanks.

PraetorianMan

That's already out and it gets very mixed reactions. A lot of grinding is necessary to enjoy the game.

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#7 arkephonic
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Those games look to be taking F2P games to new heights. They are all pretty impressive looking.

That said, consoles don't have to do anything to combat PC exclusive F2P games. They're different markets, appealing to different demographics. While I can admit that those games look like they have good production values and lots of quality behind them, none of those games appeal to me. I've tried out League of Legends, and I don't like it. I don't think any console gamers will be persuaded to move away from consoles simply because of these F2P games. I think the effect they will have will be minimal at best.

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[QUOTE="PraetorianMan"]

You forgot World of Tanks.

Wasdie

That's already out and it gets very mixed reactions. A lot of grinding is necessary to enjoy the game.

It does, but the dis-balance vs F2P players and paying players is minimal. You'll get the occasional fool who uses premium ammunition in a match, but that's it. The tanks you buy yourself are weaker than the tanks you can get for free [they exist solely for novelty or money-making] and activating a premium account has no impact on gameplay what so ever.
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="PraetorianMan"]

You forgot World of Tanks.

PraetorianMan

That's already out and it gets very mixed reactions. A lot of grinding is necessary to enjoy the game.

It does, but the dis-balance vs F2P players and paying players is minimal. You'll get the occasional fool who uses premium ammunition in a match, but that's it. The tanks you buy yourself are weaker than the tanks you can get for free [they exist solely for novelty or money-making] and activating a premium account has no impact on gameplay what so ever.

It was still way to much grinding for me to consider.

The great thing about tribes is you don't sit there and wait.

I didn't even bother mentioning Super Monday Night Combat... I need to change that.

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#10 Riverwolf007
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you may be right but really at the moment if you see free to play on the game you basically know without a doubt it will be crap until you fork over some money.

i like LoL and.... well... that is basically it.

i'm sure by just the law of averages there are a few good ones out there but with the experences i have had so far it is almost to much trouble to try and even find them.

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#11 tomarlyn
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I liked War Rock and Combat Arms :(
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FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...I had to...:P

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#13 Wasdie  Moderator
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I liked War Rock and Combat Arms :(tomarlyn

They were terrible, get over it.

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#14 2013th
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pew pew pew pew.**

Okay how much did that cost? Oh snap nothing!

pew pew pew pew pew ***

Okay now lets try another game~

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#15 PraetorianMan
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I liked War Rock and Combat Arms :(tomarlyn
I only tried combat arms. It had... issues with hacking. Oh, that's the other thing about WoT. I've never seen anyone hack, or at least I've never seen anyone use hacks good enough to stop me!
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#16 rasengan2552
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There are too many F2P games to name.

LoL is one of the best.

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#17 KC_Hokie
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The average F2P game is crap and it's the wrong direction for MMOs as a whole.
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#18 topgunmv
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Debating whether or not to throw some cash at tribes to get permanent vip status.

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#19 IAmNot_fun
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[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

I think I have Rise of Nations..uhm.Yeah,the game+thrones and patriots. never played it.

Absolutely fabulous games. I suggest you try it. I really hope they make a sequel to it someday, but I doubt it. MS doesn't like RTS any more.
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#20 SW__Troll
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I've thought of F2P as a big advantage of PC gaming for a long time now.

I wouldn't say it's the "next big advantage". It already exists, and I've sunk hundreds of hours into free games.

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#21 freedomfreak
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[QUOTE="IAmNot_fun"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

I think I have Rise of Nations..uhm.Yeah,the game+thrones and patriots. never played it.

Absolutely fabulous games. I suggest you try it. I really hope they make a sequel to it someday, but I doubt it. MS doesn't like RTS any more.

I might.It's just sitting there anyway.
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FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...I had to...:P

Goyoshi12
What about.
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#23 silversix_
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I have no problems paying 50-60$ for a quality game, its monthly fees i have problem with. So to me this is not much of an advantage especially when i have yet to enjoy a single f2p game.
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#24 04dcarraher
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World of tanks is a sweet game, Its not like your typical MMO where grinding is the same action over and over. Its like a FPS with the fact that you run(drive) around and shoot, take cover, camp, snipe etc. Up to tier 6 tank is definitely not grinding. Not that much different from playing BF3 or CoD leveling up classes.
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#25 cain006
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I have no problems paying 50-60$ for a quality game, its monthly fees i have problem with. So to me this is not much of an advantage especially when i have yet to enjoy a single f2p game.silversix_
You didn't enjoy TF2? And I like Tribes Ascend a lot as well.

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#26 dontshackzmii
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every free to play game i have tired are awful

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#27 tjricardo089
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It's just sad that 1 in 3 F2P games suck.

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#28 xOMGITSJASONx
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Werd. I like playing my Rusty Hearts and the Tribes Ascend beta is fun. Good to know that is F2P. I actually have every F2P game Steam has to offer. Some are actually worth 15 or 20 bucks.

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#29 Cherokee_Jack
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Well, it will be nice if some really good F2P multiplayer shooters come out, because I'm hard pressed to pay money for that kind of thing anymore after being burned so many times.
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#30 SPYDER0416
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Wait, Planetside 2 has 500 vs 500 vs 500 players? And it doesn't look like complete poopoo? And also, free to play? Why have I not been following this game?

If F2P gets any better, I think consoles will start to follow suite, maybe. I mean, probably not with the console companies, but I guess its dependent on their success.

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#31 lowe0
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What does this bright F2P future have to offer a single-player fan like me?
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#32 lawlessx
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What does this bright F2P future have to offer a single-player fan like me?lowe0
nothing..
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#33 Ravensmash
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Damn right you mentioned Super Monday Night Combat. :D I recommend people sign up for the beta, really good fun - and works excellent with a 360 controller.
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#34 Jebus213
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What does this bright F2P future have to offer a single-player fan like me?lowe0
You'd probably be the first person I'd want to smack in the face in a competitive shooter...
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#35 Goyoshi12
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Wait a second? Woah, woah, woah, woah...Planetside 2 will have 500 vs 500 vs 500 matches!? :o

Where...the...@#$%...can...I...get...that...BETA! :evil:

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#36 nunovlopes
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What's the business model behind those games? How do they make money? No trolling, I really want to know.

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#37 2013th
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What's the business model behind those games? How do they make money? No trolling, I really want to know.

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you pay for weapons and clothing that time out after a few weeks until you buy them again.

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#38 James161324
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What's the business model behind those games? How do they make money? No trolling, I really want to know.

nunovlopes

It depends there is a few different types

Most common in mmo's: you have a low level cap, have limited items and are limited to quests. You then either pay a one time fee or a monthly fee

FPS model: you buy weapons, skins, perks etc. This system only works when the guns don't give players a one up on the others.

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#39 Arach666
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[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

What's the business model behind those games? How do they make money? No trolling, I really want to know.

2013th

you pay for weapons and clothing that time out after a few weeks until you buy them again.

Or you don´t.

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#40 with_teeth26
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Nothing will ever beat Trackmania Nations: Forever as the best free game out there for me. So much awesome for the price tag.

Company of Heroes Online was also a good F2P title but it died due to lack of a player base.

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#41 razgriz_101
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F2P is good in concept, but the major problem is that its balanced and geared for the people who wish to use the "mall" systems for advantages.

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#42 drinkerofjuice
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Isn't Trackmania free to play as well? A specific version anyway.
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#43 JLF1MarkII
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It's only a matter of time until they are on consoles with full as well. Sony Online's F2P MMO Free Realms is coming to the PS3 in the near future and I think DC Universe Online already is F2P.

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#44 junaid15
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League of Legends is incredibly addicting. Amazing that its F2P.
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#45 freedomfreak
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My favorite multiplayer game is free.

enemy territory

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#46 shakmaster13
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Some may argue F2P is ruining MMO's, because the devs will cater to the 1% of people who spend hundreds on the in-store items instead of the people who don't pay.
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#47 shakmaster13
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My favorite multiplayer game is free.

enemy territory

freedomfreak

You would love Battlefield games.

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#48 NoodleFighter
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You forgot Blacklight Retribution

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Makes me love PC gaming even more.
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#50 BrunoBRS
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i almost want to say guild wars 2, but i can see why you omitted it.