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#101 falldogout
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Just accept that PSN GOLD will be better than XBOX live gold and hope that microsoft retaliates with more features.

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#102 aaronmullan
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Some pretty cool stuff on there.
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#103 TheRedStrike
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Paying for cross-game voice chat is so stupid :( The other things are mostly reasonable but this...no

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#104 playharderfool
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[QUOTE="jwsoul"][QUOTE="CDUB316"]

ps3 fanboys have been waiting forever for cross game voice chat, and now you have to pay to get it...sucks for them i guess

idk, it all sounds good, but most of it XBL already does and have done for awhile...i might pay for a couple months of it to see how i like it, but paying two bills might not be my fancy and i just don't see me picking PSN paid service over XBL's

LEGEND_C4A

Dude you say all that but we have a choice.... to pay or not to pay!

Sony is not stupid, go ahead and don't pay to get cross chat, when all your friends have it and you are the odd man out, everyone in your friends list won't stop using it cause you refuse to pay, so it will give you incentive to pay.

people who don't pay for xbox live is cause they don't care much or as much for online gaming. so don't pay.

with sony's system, if you don't pay fine you can still play online, but it will to some extent create two different online communities. Sony's is more forceful and brilliant at the same time.

8) that's the key word in your whole little speel there, "incentive" people don't have to play and can still game online.

with xbl there is no "incentive" to pay for the service, there is an ultamatum, either you pay or you can't play online at all.

There is really no arguement xbox fans can come up with now to throw against what Sony is offering with their online service without stomping all over any argument they ever had to defend or support what MS's xbox live service is now.

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#105 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

[QUOTE="jwsoul"] Dude you say all that but we have a choice.... to pay or not to pay!playharderfool

Sony is not stupid, go ahead and don't pay to get cross chat, when all your friends have it and you are the odd man out, everyone in your friends list won't stop using it cause you refuse to pay, so it will give you incentive to pay.

people who don't pay for xbox live is cause they don't care much or as much for online gaming. so don't pay.

with sony's system, if you don't pay fine you can still play online, but it will to some extent create two different online communities. Sony's is more forceful and brilliant at the same time.

8) that's the key word in your whole little speel there, "incentive" people don't have to play and can still game online.

with xbl there is no "incentive" to pay for the service, there is an ultamatum, either you pay or you can't play online at all.

There is really no arguement xbox fans can come upwith now to throw against what Sony online servicewithout stomping all over anyargument they everhaddefend or supportMS xbox live service.

there is a reason I said incentive! I'm not arguing, just pointing out how brilliant they are doing their service. anyone with a tons of friends online and are paying will want to pay themselves, who wants to be left out of the party. :P

you guys are too defensive :P

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#106 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"]

[QUOTE="jwsoul"] Dude you say all that but we have a choice.... to pay or not to pay!playharderfool

Sony is not stupid, go ahead and don't pay to get cross chat, when all your friends have it and you are the odd man out, everyone in your friends list won't stop using it cause you refuse to pay, so it will give you incentive to pay.

people who don't pay for xbox live is cause they don't care much or as much for online gaming. so don't pay.

with sony's system, if you don't pay fine you can still play online, but it will to some extent create two different online communities. Sony's is more forceful and brilliant at the same time.

8) that's the key word in your whole little speel there, "incentive" people don't have to play and can still game online.

with xbl there is no "incentive" to pay for the service, there is an ultamatum, either you pay or you can't play online at all.

There is really no arguement xbox fans can come up with now to throw against what Sony is offering with their online service without stomping all over any argument they ever had to defend or support what MS's xbox live service is now.

FYI, I own a Wii, PS3 and 360, so speel all you want. :P

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#107 playharderfool
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FYI, I own a Wii, PS3 and 360, so speel all you want. :P

LEGEND_C4A

:twisted: indeed I will...indeed I will!!

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#108 BodyElite
Member since 2009 • 2678 Posts

Looking good, im so going to pay for this

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:lol: Live has pretty much been doing all of this for years now and you cows have been bashing Live for not being free since MS announced Live! Now that Sony is charging for their online service its all good now, i suppose! :lol: You fanboys flip flop like theirs no tomorrow.

"I will never pay to play online!!!!"

"PSN >>>>>>>>>> Xbox Live because PSN is free!!"

Now its, "I will definitely be playing for cross-game chatting!! OMGG i cant waittt!!!!11"

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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#109 LEGEND_C4A
Member since 2003 • 3186 Posts

when the hell is this going to launch anyway? cause i'll have to pay for it one way or the other, don't think my son will leave me alone until I do :(

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#110 BodyElite
Member since 2009 • 2678 Posts

I own both consoles and i pay for Live but i will never pay for PSN simply because the online community just isnt there. Theres hardly any good games to play online, but the ones that are good the community dies within weeks (KZ2, U2, etc). No one talks, etc etc. Ill stick with my 360 for online gaming

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#111 jrhawk42
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"Customer Service Priority"

I've never used Customer Service (CS), and I doubt many of us do. If you need a "priority" option for CS than there's something wrong w/ your CS

"Exclusive Experiences"

I've seen this a lot w/ other companies. Most of the time it's crap. They often have offers that don't even match retail prices for things, or stuff you never wanted in the first place.

"Extended 3-Year Warranty"

Sounds good, but my the track record for sony's warranty promises is really bad. Basically they'll just say "our warrenty doesn't cover X" and charge you $150

"Access to Beta games"

I swear they've promised this like 6 times already. For Qore, home, and on the PS forums, and just about everything else sony has created they've promised Beta access, and "lied"everytime.

"Early Access to ALL Store Content"

Developers are not going to like this. It's fine to have demo's and free items available early, but if 3rd party developers are excpected to put their releases on hold for "premium" subscribers sony isn't going to attract many devs.

"Member DEMO Sharing Of FULL Game"

So this allows you to share a level with a fellow subscriber - of a game you just purchased from the PlayStation store! This means content exclusive to you and your friend, not available on the PSN store.

Sweetness.

"Cross Game Voice Chat - Access"

about damn time.

"Full Title Trial FIRST HOUR Free"

Great unless a player can get through a majority of your content in 1 hour, but I'd say if that's the case your game sucked.

"Token Wagering"

interesting, but I feel it's going to be very much abused. So it's unlikely that tokens will actually get you anything in the future.

"User to User Challenges"

leaderboards??? ok not really that great of a feature.

"Free Acess to PSOne ****cs, Mini's etc"

Depending what's available this is pretty awesome.


"Discounts On Store Content"

Sounds promising... but mostly dependant on what's for sale most the time.

"Trophy Alerts"

mostly useless it seems.

"Cloud Storage Space for Games"

Another Item from my "next-gen wishlist"

"Online Music Service"


"for use outside of playing a game and similar to Pandora or a Last.fm." basically useless unless I can listen while playing.

"Online Music Video Service"

meh I'm not in high school anymore music videos just aren't that great.

"Automatic Downloads and Updates"


I swear sony just read my "next-gen wishlist".

"Loyalty Program Rewards"


Considering the fact I'm cheap and rarely buy online content due to it's expensive nature I highly doubt this will be worthwhile to me.

"Facebook Connectivity"


XBL has this and it's pretty lame. I doubt sony does any better.

"Catch-up TV"
Hulu support, if true that's freaking awesome.


"Netflix Access Without Disc"


kinda funny, but atleast you don't have to subscribe to get netflix..

If all these options are actually as promised then $5 a month is a fairly good deal. Especially if you're spending more than that on games that you play for a month then never touch again... The problem I have is that Sony tends to over promise and under deliver hence I'm very skeptical about any of these features actually living up to their expectations.

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#112 VoodooHak
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Since when was this official? Last I read, these features only appeared on a survey.

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#113 playharderfool
Member since 2009 • 2085 Posts

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Looking good, im so going to pay for this

BodyElite

:lol: Live has pretty much been doing all of this for years now and you cows have been bashing Live for not being free since MS announced Live! Now that Sony is charging for their online service its all good now, i suppose! :lol: You fanboys flip flop like theirs no tomorrow.

"I will never pay to play online!!!!"

"PSN >>>>>>>>>> Xbox Live because PSN is free!!"

Now its, "I will definitely be playing for cross-game chatting!! OMGG i cant waittt!!!!11"

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:arrow: Go back thru this thead, there's no reason to keep responding to the same arguements you lemmings have been repeating over and over again.

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#114 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Looking good, im so going to pay for this

BodyElite

:lol: Live has pretty much been doing all of this for years now and you cows have been bashing Live for not being free since MS announced Live! Now that Sony is charging for their online service its all good now, i suppose! :lol: You fanboys flip flop like theirs no tomorrow.

"I will never pay to play online!!!!"

"PSN >>>>>>>>>> Xbox Live because PSN is free!!"

Now its, "I will definitely be playing for cross-game chatting!! OMGG i cant waittt!!!!11"

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

360 hasn't had most of this "for years now"

"Extended 3-Year Warranty"

Now this is a big one. A brand new SONY console ships with a 1 year warranty from the day of purchase, so if your PlayStation3 decideds to kick the bucket a day after the warranty ends your f**ed. (:

As part of purchasing the overall subscription you get an extra 3 years to your name.

Comes with the 360, can't be bothered looking up when

"Access to Beta games"

Didn't they promise this with QORE? ..... Anyway SONY says you get exclusive access to BETA's. So exclusive access to the beta's of popular games before their actual release date

Not really something that i've seen too oftenwith aLive gold account

"Early Access to ALL Store Content"

Get early access to select free and purchasable game related content on the PlayStation Store before it's available to everyone else. This includes games, add-ons, themes, avatars, as well as free game demos.

Does already have this

"Member DEMO Sharing Of FULL Game"

So this allows you to share a level with a fellow subscriber - of a game you just purchased from the PlayStation store! This means content exclusive to you and your friend, not available on the PSN store.

Sweetness.

Live has never had this

"Cross Game Voice Chat - Access"

Well here it is! Alot of you people have been waiting on this. SONY's bringing you cross game voice chat. Nothing more to say, really. It's the ability to use your headset to talk to your friends on PS3 REGARDLESS of what they are doing.

Has had this since launch

"Full Title Trial FIRST HOUR Free"

Yup, so you can purchase a full-fledged game - and try it for a full hour!

Don't like it - delete it.

Like it - Buy it.

Awesomeness.

Oh and it doesn't matter if its multiplayer or single player.

Don't think you get this with a gold account

"Token Wagering"

This sounds promising. Get a fixed number of tokens per month you can wager with other players in competitive online games. These tokens could then be built up and redeemed for free PlayStation Network games and other content.

Never had this either

"User to User Challenges"

Unlock developer-created challenges while playing games. Compete with your friends to see who can be the first to complete these challenges. The PS3 will automatically offer and track challenges and winners and would post results. An example of a challenge is 'first to get 10 trophies' in a particular game.

Nor this

"Free Acess to PSOne ****cs, Mini's etc"

Yeaaaaaaaah.

Get a fixed number of PSOne ****c games, PSP Minis (bite-sized games), and PS3/PSP themes per month to keep for free for as long as you are a subscriber. The PlayStation Store offers these types of content for $2-6 each.

Don't think i've seen something of this scale for gold account members

"Discounts On Store Content"

Get weekly member-exclusive discounts on specific games, game add-ons and themes on the PlayStation Store. Discounts may range from 20-50% off regular retail prices.

A gold account doesn't give discounts

"Trophy Alerts"


Get automated alerts on your PlayStation XrossMedia Bar, PlayStation.com, and via text message (if you so choose) that alert you when your friends get any trophy or a specific one. This feature is customizable – you can choose which friends to receive alerts from and what kinds of alerts.

Never been an achievement alert on 360

"Cloud Storage Space for Games"


Store your game saves on a virtual secure saver. This would allow you to access your game saves at any point in time, and from any PlayStation 3 or PSP console you are logged in on.

Never been on 360

"Online Music Service"


Get a streaming music service that allows you to choose your channel based on music **** artist type, etc. and listen to an unlimited number of tracks. This service would be for use outside of playing a game and similar to Pandora or a Last.fm.

Recently added for 360, but not been around "for years"

"Online Music Video Service"


Get a streaming music video service on your PlayStation 3 that lets you stream music videos from a continuously growing catalog of music and allows you to create a custom playlist to play back.

Not on 360

"Automatic Downloads and Updates"


Customize the types of updates you want your PS3 to download automatically. These include game updates (patches) for games that you own, firmware updates, and game demos downloaded on your PS3 without manually having to select them and wait for them to finish downloading. Your PS3 can be set to automatically turn on for updates and turn off after completion.

360 doesn't have this but it's downloads are already very fast so isn't necessary

"Loyalty Program Rewards"


Get rewards the longer you are a subscriber and also earn rewards by engaging with PlayStation such as buying games, downloading movies, and rating products. Rewards can include full versions of PlayStation Network games and digital movie rentals from the PlayStation Store.

Don't think i've seen this on 360

"Facebook Connectivity"


Access to member-exclusive Facebook features on your PlayStation 3, such as viewing and linking your Facebook accounts with their PSN ID's, updating your status, editing, uploading and sharing photos, and viewing photo albums of your friends on your TV.

A recent addition

"Catch-up TV"
Get access to popular TV shows and movies through service providers such as Hulu, simply by clicking an icon on your PS3 XrossMedia navigation bar.

Never been on 360

"Netflix Access Without Disc"


Access the Netflix video streaming service on your PS3 without the need to insert a special disc into the drive each time to access the service. A separate Netflix subscription would also be needed to enjoy the service. Netflix offers over 17000 popular movies and TV shows for streaming on your laptop or a supported device such as a PS3.

Recently been added to 360

So yeh, most of this stuff hasn't been on 360 before

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#115 WilliamRLBaker
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Cows before the survey: but but but but the psn is better it offers free online, we dont care about all those other things that you get charged money for, Free is all ways better.

Cows after the survey: but but but but the psn is better, it offers free online and now has a premium pay for service, paying for something is all ways better.

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#116 jessmaster13
Member since 2009 • 3170 Posts

That sounds awesome, but I probably wouldn't pay for it. All I want is to be able to play online, so that's good it will remain free.

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#117 SwagSurf
Member since 2009 • 3022 Posts

[QUOTE="BodyElite"]

[QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Looking good, im so going to pay for this

playharderfool

:lol: Live has pretty much been doing all of this for years now and you cows have been bashing Live for not being free since MS announced Live! Now that Sony is charging for their online service its all good now, i suppose! :lol: You fanboys flip flop like theirs no tomorrow.

"I will never pay to play online!!!!"

"PSN >>>>>>>>>> Xbox Live because PSN is free!!"

Now its, "I will definitely be playing for cross-game chatting!! OMGG i cant waittt!!!!11"

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:arrow: Go back thru this thead, there's no reason to keep responding to the same arguements you lemmings have been repeating over and over again.

It's hard for "lemmings" to admit some things that PSN is better. Don't go down to their level its not worth it :lol:

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#118 WilliamRLBaker
Member since 2006 • 28915 Posts

The only words out of cows mouths i want to be hearing are.

WE dont want that stuff its not important, we want all of it for free really we wont pay money for any thing online.
*but thats not what we are hearing we have every cow either attacking xbox live still or trying to defending this surveys choices and how its justified to pay for it but fo the past 4 years all we've heard is how xbox live is a rip off*

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#119 SwagSurf
Member since 2009 • 3022 Posts

The only words out of cows mouths i want to be hearing are.

WE dont want that stuff its not important, we want all of it for free really we wont pay money for any thing online.
*but thats not what we are hearing we have every cow either attacking xbox live still or trying to defending this surveys choices and how its justified to pay for it but fo the past 4 years all we've heard is how xbox live is a rip off*

WilliamRLBaker

No one is going to listen to you lemming :|

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#120 CaptainHarley
Member since 2004 • 2703 Posts

sounds like a lot of garbage. the nice thing about psn is i play on it, and it costs no money.

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#121 Shirokishi_
Member since 2009 • 11206 Posts

Im interested in 2 features. I MAY try it out somewhere down the line.

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#122 playharderfool
Member since 2009 • 2085 Posts

Cows before the survey: but but but but the psn is better it offers free online, we dont care about all those other things that you get charged money for, Free is all ways better.
all
Cows after the survey: but but but but the psn is better, it offers free online and now has a premium pay for service, paying for something is all ways better.

WilliamRLBaker

First show me where xbl ever offerd "all those other things" and then you might begin to form an actual argument.

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#123 jwsoul
Member since 2005 • 5475 Posts

Cows before the survey: but but but but the psn is better it offers free online, we dont care about all those other things that you get charged money for, Free is all ways better.

Cows after the survey: but but but but the psn is better, it offers free online and now has a premium pay for service, paying for something is all ways better.

WilliamRLBaker

BUT BUT BUT You have to still PAY to play online....... I dont and i do not intend to pay for a console to go online ever if i can help it.

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#124 tonyleo01
Member since 2004 • 2258 Posts
I didn't read all the 10+ page but im sure a lot of people are like me. I'm not paying for both services. I have to pay for XBL because i have to in order to play game online. So as long as sony don't charge to play online, Im not paying for it.
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#125 Ribnarak
Member since 2008 • 2299 Posts

[QUOTE="MizFitAwesome"]

[QUOTE="playharderfool"]

8) like xbox live since the beginning of this generation?

Come with it xbox360 fanboys don't any arugment anymore not factual ones anyway, ...what'cha got?

playharderfool

Really, what premium content are you talking about? Horse Armor in Oblvion? How profound. I'm talking about online games, so if an XBL player is paying, they have access to the content, whereas Sony is not going to allow it for the free players online. So the free player is going to play against a premium player with better equipment.

You want to talk about living off speculation, most of the features listed for the PSN premium service are speculation...So what'cha got?

*sigh*

First off who said I was focusing on the "premium content" line in your quote I highlited?

Funny that you seem to ignore the basic overall concept that you're criticizingwhich is...having to pay for something that will alienate people who choose not to, to focus of the variable "premium content" that you'd like to throw stones at because it applies to Sony's service, while you ignore the fact that "playing game online" is the variable that applies to XBL's service :lol: but you're completly fine with users having to pay or be alienated in that situation for xbl?

Also you second part make absolutly no sense, "if an XBL player is paying, they have access to the content, whereas Sony is not going to allow it for the free players online." :? Say what?

lol, do you see how rediclious your point are? (probably not) but anyway, you're making assumptions now and you're missing some basic truths as well, let me break it down....

  • all the content that a player who's never payed a single dime to sony's service will still have that content avalible to them

  • if they pay for the service Sony is saying they will have EXTRA content made avalible in addion to but not restrictive on what is already free

  • A premium player may play against a free player with diffrent content dosen't nessecarily mean it's going to be "better" like outfits in SF4 for example.

  • here is where you begin speculating, you talk about xbl player having access to content, and then saying sony is not going to allow it for free players online? xbl plaers and free PSN players get the same content in games NOW, lol. You seem to be trying to intermingle PSN's premum serive and xbl's current service into a collective arguement against the free PSN.

  • PSN is PSN and xbl is xbl, they are not interconnected. What Sony offers premum PSN users doesn't have to have anything to do with MS is offering xbl players. so in the end it could end up where free PSN users and premium xbl users still end up getting bascially the same content free, with premium PSN users having diffrent content.

8) mate

ouch. nicely done man, hes forgettign that the FREE psn gets almost the exact same content available as XBL.

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#126 njean777
Member since 2007 • 3807 Posts

So what's your gamertag? Most people that have both understand what I'm saying, making the rest of your OPIONION pointless since you can't see the obvious.

I have both and i can tell you exactly what Live is = RIPOFF

If this is true i probably wont pay for it, but at least they are offering incentives to get the service. Unlike M$ who makes you pay just to play. Sorry bud but to people who have both once psn gets voice chat its pretty much live. With all this other stuff though it could def be better then live in no time.

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#127 playharderfool
Member since 2009 • 2085 Posts

The only words out of cows mouths i want to be hearing are.

WE dont want that stuff its not important, we want all of it for free really we wont pay money for any thing online.
*but thats not what we are hearing we have every cow either attacking xbox live still or trying to defending this surveys choices and how its justified to pay for it but fo the past 4 years all we've heard is how xbox live is a rip off*

WilliamRLBaker

Such failure in your argument. :o XBOX LIVE ISN'T OFFERING THAT STUFF!!!

Cross game chat isn't important to me...at least not $50 a year worth, there is on realistic value in that service. But I 3 year extension on my hardware is, Having access to all PS1 content is. Those things are actually WORTH something.

Please just show me the equvilant in value to even only those to features offered in PSN premium service and then we can talk.

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#128 druggyjoe3000
Member since 2006 • 1523 Posts

So paying for online isnt that bad now isnt it cows :P

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#129 SwagSurf
Member since 2009 • 3022 Posts

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]

The only words out of cows mouths i want to be hearing are.

WE dont want that stuff its not important, we want all of it for free really we wont pay money for any thing online.
*but thats not what we are hearing we have every cow either attacking xbox live still or trying to defending this surveys choices and how its justified to pay for it but fo the past 4 years all we've heard is how xbox live is a rip off*

playharderfool

Such failure in your argument. :o XBOX LIVE ISN'T OFFERING THAT STUFF!!!

Cross game chat isn't important to me...at least not $50 a year worth, there is on realistic value in that service. But I 3 year extension on my hardware is, Having access to all PS1 content is. Those things are actually WORTH something.

Please just show me the equvilant in value to even onlythose to featuresoffered in xbox live and thenwe cantalk.

I don't think hes going to respond after all the ownage hes been taking. :P

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#130 SwagSurf
Member since 2009 • 3022 Posts

So paying for online isnt that bad now isnt it cows :P

druggyjoe3000

At least Online is still free right? :D

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#131 playharderfool
Member since 2009 • 2085 Posts

So paying for online isnt that bad now isnt it cows :P

druggyjoe3000

8) not when there's actually something valueble worth paying for in the service and that option doesn't restrict you from the ability to play games free online if you choose not to...no, no not at all.

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#132 Tekkenloving
Member since 2008 • 1546 Posts
im really angry about the cross game chat being premium only(they basically dangled that ability for 2 years as part of the free service and suddenly it's announced for a new paid one) but ill probably going to pay just for that and ps1 access.
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#133 Ribnarak
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theres alot of dumb people out there that will not understand what this "premium" service means. Ive seen a couple of these people in this thread already.

They cant get it through their head that PSN is still FREE (everything now, is going to stay the same, FREE). HOwever, these extra features will be at a price. Please people get this through your heads before sayign:
"cows have always been saying PSn is better than live since its free, andnow thatcows have to pay, they are okay with it"

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#134 Chutebox
Member since 2007 • 51602 Posts

wow, there is some actual useful stuff in there...

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#135 Chutebox
Member since 2007 • 51602 Posts

So paying for online isnt that bad now isnt it cows :P

druggyjoe3000
Gaming is still free...
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#136 playharderfool
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theres alot of dumb people out there that will not understand what this "premium" service means. Ive seen a couple of these people in this thread already.

They cant get it through their head that PSN is still FREE (everything now, is going to stay the same, FREE). HOwever, these extra features will be at a price. Please people get this through your heads before sayign:
"cows have always been saying PSn is better than live since its free, andnow thatcows have to pay, they are okay with it"

Ribnarak

Don't bother they already know lol.

Even while typing arguemts in defense of xbl they are currently looking at their xbox360's in disgust saying to themselves "I shoulda been a cow, dang PS3 was awsome this year..and now this!!"

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#137 Ribnarak
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[QUOTE="Ribnarak"]

theres alot of dumb people out there that will not understand what this "premium" service means. Ive seen a couple of these people in this thread already.

They cant get it through their head that PSN is still FREE (everything now, is going to stay the same, FREE). HOwever, these extra features will be at a price. Please people get this through your heads before sayign:
"cows have always been saying PSn is better than live since its free, andnow thatcows have to pay, they are okay with it"

playharderfool

Don't bother they already know lol.

Even while typing arguemts in defense of xbl they are currently looking at their xbox360's in disgust saying to themselves "I shoulda been a cow, dang PS3 was awsome this year..and now this!!"

loll im glad atleast some people see the point that im tryign to make.

Honestly tho, i doubt im going to pay for this service because i still enjoy gaming on my FREE psn. But who knows, maybe in the future i might try it out.

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#138 SwagSurf
Member since 2009 • 3022 Posts

Are they going to have subscription cards?

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#139 pis3rch
Member since 2006 • 1695 Posts
this really makes me ask "wait, why do i pay for Live again?" If this is an official list of what paying PSN users will get, i might just switch over. The rental system and cloud storage sound particularly awesome. Screw MS, they still charge $30 for a digital copy of oblivion! And its not even the GOTY edition!
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#140 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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[QUOTE="icygangsta"]

[QUOTE="suntaice"]

If the price is similar to Xbox live gold, then this will be worth it.

I think it's speculated to be 60 a year.

if its 60-70 a year, i'll likely just buy the PS1 games and be done with it. 40-50 would buy
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#141 Chutebox
Member since 2007 • 51602 Posts

The only words out of cows mouths i want to be hearing are.

WE dont want that stuff its not important, we want all of it for free really we wont pay money for any thing online.
*but thats not what we are hearing we have every cow either attacking xbox live still or trying to defending this surveys choices and how its justified to pay for it but fo the past 4 years all we've heard is how xbox live is a rip off*

WilliamRLBaker

No need for DC man. You see, cows still get to play what they paid for. And that's what comes on the disc. No need to pay for that still and never should be, since you know, you already pay a pretty hefty price for the game itself. All the little extra stuff is what perks peoples' interest.

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#142 Im_single
Member since 2008 • 5134 Posts
Ugh, why early access to content? UGH! Oh well, guess it's another sub I'll be buying *Sigh*
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#143 desyple
Member since 2008 • 1725 Posts
[QUOTE="jrhawk42"]

"Customer Service Priority"

I've never used Customer Service (CS), and I doubt many of us do. If you need a "priority" option for CS than there's something wrong w/ your CS

"Exclusive Experiences"

I've seen this a lot w/ other companies. Most of the time it's crap. They often have offers that don't even match retail prices for things, or stuff you never wanted in the first place.

"Extended 3-Year Warranty"

Sounds good, but my the track record for sony's warranty promises is really bad. Basically they'll just say "our warrenty doesn't cover X" and charge you $150

"Access to Beta games"

I swear they've promised this like 6 times already. For Qore, home, and on the PS forums, and just about everything else sony has created they've promised Beta access, and "lied"everytime.

"Early Access to ALL Store Content"

Developers are not going to like this. It's fine to have demo's and free items available early, but if 3rd party developers are excpected to put their releases on hold for "premium" subscribers sony isn't going to attract many devs.

"Member DEMO Sharing Of FULL Game"

So this allows you to share a level with a fellow subscriber - of a game you just purchased from the PlayStation store! This means content exclusive to you and your friend, not available on the PSN store.

Sweetness.

"Cross Game Voice Chat - Access"

about damn time.

"Full Title Trial FIRST HOUR Free"

Great unless a player can get through a majority of your content in 1 hour, but I'd say if that's the case your game sucked.

"Token Wagering"

interesting, but I feel it's going to be very much abused. So it's unlikely that tokens will actually get you anything in the future.

"User to User Challenges"

leaderboards??? ok not really that great of a feature.

"Free Acess to PSOne ****cs, Mini's etc"

Depending what's available this is pretty awesome.


"Discounts On Store Content"

Sounds promising... but mostly dependant on what's for sale most the time.

"Trophy Alerts"

mostly useless it seems.

"Cloud Storage Space for Games"

Another Item from my "next-gen wishlist"

"Online Music Service"


"for use outside of playing a game and similar to Pandora or a Last.fm." basically useless unless I can listen while playing.

"Online Music Video Service"

meh I'm not in high school anymore music videos just aren't that great.

"Automatic Downloads and Updates"


I swear sony just read my "next-gen wishlist".

"Loyalty Program Rewards"


Considering the fact I'm cheap and rarely buy online content due to it's expensive nature I highly doubt this will be worthwhile to me.

"Facebook Connectivity"


XBL has this and it's pretty lame. I doubt sony does any better.

"Catch-up TV"
Hulu support, if true that's freaking awesome.


"Netflix Access Without Disc"


kinda funny, but atleast you don't have to subscribe to get netflix..

If all these options are actually as promised then $5 a month is a fairly good deal. Especially if you're spending more than that on games that you play for a month then never touch again... The problem I have is that Sony tends to over promise and under deliver hence I'm very skeptical about any of these features actually living up to their expectations.

true, sony does tend to overpromise and underdeliver. however if they do deliver then it will definitiely be worth every penny
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#144 batman_is_aweso
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So now that PlayStation Network is offering a paid version to premium content and services, would you be buying it? As you guys know - everything that is already free - remains so.

"Customer Service Priority"

Apparently Sony will offer priority access to customer service with little to "no" waiting time. Both online and via the phone. That's fine by me.

"Exclusive Experiences"

This promises exclusive experiences with the SONY brands - including SONY BMG music, SONY Montanica films and other businesses that branch off from the SONY corp. not forgetting SONY Computer entertainment.

"Extended 3-Year Warranty"

Now this is a big one. A brand new SONY console ships with a 1 year warranty from the day of purchase, so if your PlayStation3 decideds to kick the bucket a day after the warranty ends your f**ed. (:

As part of purchasing the overall subscription you get an extra 3 years to your name.

"Access to Beta games"

Didn't they promise this with QORE? ..... Anyway SONY says you get exclusive access to BETA's. So exclusive access to the beta's of popular games before their actual release date

"Early Access to ALL Store Content"

Get early access to select free and purchasable game related content on the PlayStation Store before it's available to everyone else. This includes games, add-ons, themes, avatars, as well as free game demos.

"Member DEMO Sharing Of FULL Game"

So this allows you to share a level with a fellow subscriber - of a game you just purchased from the PlayStation store! This means content exclusive to you and your friend, not available on the PSN store.

Sweetness.

"Cross Game Voice Chat - Access"

Well here it is! Alot of you people have been waiting on this. SONY's bringing you cross game voice chat. Nothing more to say, really. It's the ability to use your headset to talk to your friends on PS3 REGARDLESS of what they are doing.

"Full Title Trial FIRST HOUR Free"

Yup, so you can purchase a full-fledged game - and try it for a full hour!

Don't like it - delete it.

Like it - Buy it.

Awesomeness.

Oh and it doesn't matter if its multiplayer or single player.

"Token Wagering"

This sounds promising. Get a fixed number of tokens per month you can wager with other players in competitive online games. These tokens could then be built up and redeemed for free PlayStation Network games and other content.

"User to User Challenges"

Unlock developer-created challenges while playing games. Compete with your friends to see who can be the first to complete these challenges. The PS3 will automatically offer and track challenges and winners and would post results. An example of a challenge is 'first to get 10 trophies' in a particular game.

"Free Acess to PSOne ****cs, Mini's etc"

Yeaaaaaaaah.

Get a fixed number of PSOne ****c games, PSP Minis (bite-sized games), and PS3/PSP themes per month to keep for free for as long as you are a subscriber. The PlayStation Store offers these types of content for $2-6 each.


"Discounts On Store Content"

Get weekly member-exclusive discounts on specific games, game add-ons and themes on the PlayStation Store. Discounts may range from 20-50% off regular retail prices.

"Trophy Alerts"



Get automated alerts on your PlayStation XrossMedia Bar, PlayStation.com, and via text message (if you so choose) that alert you when your friends get any trophy or a specific one. This feature is customizable – you can choose which friends to receive alerts from and what kinds of alerts.

"Cloud Storage Space for Games"



Store your game saves on a virtual secure saver. This would allow you to access your game saves at any point in time, and from any PlayStation 3 or PSP console you are logged in on.


"Online Music Service"


Get a streaming music service that allows you to choose your channel based on music **** artist type, etc. and listen to an unlimited number of tracks. This service would be for use outside of playing a game and similar to Pandora or a Last.fm.

"Online Music Video Service"


Get a streaming music video service on your PlayStation 3 that lets you stream music videos from a continuously growing catalog of music and allows you to create a custom playlist to play back.

"Automatic Downloads and Updates"


Customize the types of updates you want your PS3 to download automatically. These include game updates (patches) for games that you own, firmware updates, and game demos downloaded on your PS3 without manually having to select them and wait for them to finish downloading. Your PS3 can be set to automatically turn on for updates and turn off after completion.

"Loyalty Program Rewards"


Get rewards the longer you are a subscriber and also earn rewards by engaging with PlayStation such as buying games, downloading movies, and rating products. Rewards can include full versions of PlayStation Network games and digital movie rentals from the PlayStation Store.

"Facebook Connectivity"


Access to member-exclusive Facebook features on your PlayStation 3, such as viewing and linking your Facebook accounts with their PSN ID's, updating your status, editing, uploading and sharing photos, and viewing photo albums of your friends on your TV.

"Catch-up TV"
Get access to popular TV shows and movies through service providers such as Hulu, simply by clicking an icon on your PS3 XrossMedia navigation bar.


"Netflix Access Without Disc"


Access the Netflix video streaming service on your PS3 without the need to insert a special disc into the drive each time to access the service. A separate Netflix subscription would also be needed to enjoy the service. Netflix offers over 17000 popular movies and TV shows for streaming on your laptop or a supported device such as a PS3.

Thoughts?



icygangsta

why is it ps ****c(why is it censored? whats he word anyway?)

anyway id get it but doubt my parents would pay for it

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#145 gamer-adam1
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[QUOTE="DarthBilf"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] Only way better.Messiahbolical-

Not really. Xbox Live Gold has basiaclly all of these features, except for the 1 hour free trial of every game(which is pretty cool).

No it doesn't. :|

Did you even read any of them? Live only has a few of those features. Since when did Live have cloud storage(possibly the greatest idea I've seen, and something Microsoft NEEDS)? Token wagering? Free PS1 games? Hulu? Loyalty rewards?(Microsoft doesn't know a thing about rewarding their most loyal customers) How about game sharing? How about the possiblity of free Sony Pictures movies?(See under Exclusive Experiences)

How about CHOICE? Does Live have that? Last I checked, if you don't have a Gold account you don't get to play any of your games online. Honestly this makes Live look like a joke compared to PSN. Free PSN is already almost just as good as XBL Gold and this premium PSN takes a crap all over Live as a whole.

1. Cloud storage can go wrong and it has, what if you have no internet? than you have no access to your profile.

2. Token is nothing compared to 1 vs 100.

3. Hulu is only for the states

4.Microsoft has said they are working on something for people who have had Xbox live for a while. Microsoft has Contests lots every month. game with fame, game with developer. weekly discounts

5. I dont know why Sony would do that.

6. being free doesnt mean its better. every year more and more websites are charging users to access "extra stuff" (youtube, Hulu). people really wouldnt pay if they didnt feel like they could get it for free. in the end someone pays.

6. I have played PSN and I prefer Xbox live over it, infact I dont see how PSN is even better than xbox live. I dont like using a Bluetooth headset. they don't last that long. PSN will suffer the same the Xbox live does, as none of that will be availabe in all countries. so most likly all is that is for the US only

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#146 bobbetybob
Member since 2005 • 19370 Posts
I just took this survey and there were about 40 different pricing options on there, 4 on each page, it asked which of the four you would prefer or you could choose none if you didn't like any. No single package had everything on that list, some had the PS1 games but no full game trial, some had cross voice chat but then not some of the other good stuff. The prices were anywhere between 20 pounds and 100 pounds, but I think they were really more to get an idea of what they could get away with rather than being set prices since some of them had a lot of the good stuff for only 20 pounds, whilst others had similar packages that cost 60. At the end of the day it depends what they decide on as to whether it's worth it, I saw some packages on there that were too good to be true, and some that would cause riots on System Wars if they landed on that.
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#147 gamer-adam1
Member since 2008 • 4188 Posts

User to User challenges is very very very very bad. 1 thats if the developer does that and we all know how many games use all the features Playstation has. and most people don't want to spend playing a game straight for like 48 hours, so than 90% of gamers are even going to be included

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#148 Jfisch93
Member since 2008 • 3557 Posts

That whole post is fake until a source is posted.

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#149 htekemerald
Member since 2004 • 7325 Posts

So its like the PC's online, just with vastly fewer features and costs money. People paying for this are the one ruining gaming.

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#150 Leejjohno
Member since 2005 • 13897 Posts

You see guys? You see? Actually playing online isn't a "premium" feature.