Further Proof the PS3 is Done. (article)

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#1 carljohnson3456
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Here it is.

Here's a bit from the ending...

"Can the PS3 be saved? I would say the answer is no. The Xbox 360 and the Wii have carved up this generation and Sony is left scraping up the scraps (much like Nintendo and Microsoft did last generation). They could always declare 2009 the "Year of the PS3", but there comes a time when a system has to stop being sold on potential and instead be sold on the realization of that potential.

The PS3 is most assuredly done and all they can do now is plan for the PlayStation 4. Hopefully they learn their lesson from this generation and do not make the same mistakes again. Healthy competition pushes everyone to new heights in the game industry and I'd love to see Sony return to the innovative and smart Sony we saw that nurtured the PS2 to its lofty peak as one of the greatest game consoles of all time."

Man, could this guy be more of a PS3 hater? He was even claiming the PS3 was done before 2008 was even half way through. I found this article insanely biased and a great example of the "gloom and doom" picture some of the gaming media is trying to paint for the PS3.

Is Sony in a tight spot? Sure. Is the PS3 done? Absolutely not.

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#2 Parasomniac
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PS3 was done on launch day when people saw that big pricetag.
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#3 spinecaton
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I agree with your statement "I found this article insanely biased and a great example of the "gloom and doom" picture some of the gaming media is trying to paint for the PS3.", the media is ruining the PS3. Sure it isn't as good as the PS2 and took awhile to get going, but there is nothing wrong with it anymore and shouldn't be touted as a dying console.
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#4 Dilrod
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Sony is far from done. Even with lower holiday sales than the competitors. The only thing that is hurting Sony is themselves. Bad advertising for the most part and arrogance. Sony controls their own destiny and sadly its like they have had a drunk driver behind the wheel at the beginning. Now its time to have a designated driver and gets things back on track. I like my ps3 more than my other consoles and I think the ps3 offers more overall than any other console. The media make these things worse than they are though.

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#5 carljohnson3456
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PS3 was done on launch day when people saw that big pricetag.Parasomniac
Yet, it still selling on par with the 360 from it's time of launch as well... I'm not calling it unfair to compare the two because of the 360's headstart, but it's not like the PS3 has unperformed in sales compared to the 360. They're actually selling close to the same rate world wide.
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I disagree with him.
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#7 dthach614
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imo sony deserve every bad thing coming their way. they should look up the word "hubris"
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#8 campzor
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when i saw 'carljohnson3456' then i saw 'further proof the ps3 is done' My heart stopped for like a second :O
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#9 carljohnson3456
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when i saw 'carljohnson3456' then i saw 'further proof the ps3 is done' My heart stopped for like a second :Ocampzor
The day CarlJohnson3456 thinks the PS3 is done... is the day the PS3 is really done. :lol:
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#10 3picuri3
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the denial is strong with our OP.

maybe if you take the time to read the FT / Forbes anaylsis pieces you'd give the author a bit more credit. he is absolutely right, at some point sony has to stop selling potential and start realizing it. that has yet to happen on a scale that warrants mass adoption of the console - hence it's poor position in terms of hardware / software sales.

say all you want, say the PS3 is still alive. i think the Dreamcast is still alive in a sense, but largely it's a dead console ;).

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#11 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Not that you did this CJ, but I hate when people try to pass off idiotic blogs they stumbled across on the web as some kind of evidence, or proof, or even worse, fact. Please take note Renegade! :P
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#12 finalfantasy94
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Bashing PS3 is the "cool" thing to do in the media. Thats why I dont even bother to listen to these "journalist". I have my own brain.
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Not that you did this CJ, but I hate when people try to pass off idiotic blogs they stumbled across on the web as some kind of evidence or proof or worse fact. Please take not Renegade! :Pblue_hazy_basic
same stuff is being said by the leading financial publications in the country. cows still deny it. so whatevs, eh? i guess it makes some feel better when they can call out the little blogs, try tackling the articles by the big boys and we'll have a good laugh ;)
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#14 daveg1
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who are you say it isnt done.
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#15 blackdreamhunk
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To be honest I don't even think sony new line up games will help them. your hardcore gamers who buy real hardware are on the pc. Console gamers are more of casual type of gamers who don't spend big dallars on hardware or games for that matter.

sony is pretty mush done until there is a major price drop, but by then why would a gamer want to buy a ps3 when you have better high thech games on the pc.

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#16 Parasomniac
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[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]PS3 was done on launch day when people saw that big pricetag.carljohnson3456
Yet, it still selling on par with the 360 from it's time of launch as well... I'm not calling it unfair to compare the two because of the 360's headstart, but it's not like the PS3 has unperformed in sales compared to the 360. They're actually selling close to the same rate world wide.

This whole generation could be different right now if PS3 launched at $299 like PS2 did. People were pretty damn excited about the new Playstation until that horrible launch price happened. Completely killed momentum for it.
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#17 heretrix
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Sonys only saving grace is that this generation of consoles will most likely last longer than previous generations. They still have a chance to get their act together.
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#18 carljohnson3456
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Not that you did this CJ, but I hate when people try to pass off idiotic blogs they stumbled across on the web as some kind of evidence, or proof, or even worse, fact. Please take note Renegade! :Pblue_hazy_basic
I know what you mean... but mainly I just thought this article was System Wars worthy. C'mon man, this is a 50 page thread in the making!!! :lol:
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Yes, because whatever people write on websites are the truth and their arguments are indisputable regardless of their knowledge of the topic and the fact they are paid to write for revenue.
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Parasomniac"]PS3 was done on launch day when people saw that big pricetag.Parasomniac
Yet, it still selling on par with the 360 from it's time of launch as well... I'm not calling it unfair to compare the two because of the 360's headstart, but it's not like the PS3 has unperformed in sales compared to the 360. They're actually selling close to the same rate world wide.

This whole generation could be different right now if PS3 launched at $299 like PS2 did. People were pretty damn excited about the new Playstation until that horrible launch price happened. Completely killed momentum for it.

But it would have a been a totally different machine for that price, or Sony really would have gone bankrupt.
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#21 3picuri3
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Sonys only saving grace is that this generation of consoles will most likely last longer than previous generations. They still have a chance to get their act together.heretrix
i totally agree with this. i think there is time, if they have some aces up their sleeve. it's not too late to bring some new & exciting IPs in to the ring. i personally think that's all they need. most people don't feel interested in the PS3 lineup when you just look at exclusives - i think that's why it's struggling in terms of software / hardware sales. give people more of a reason to buy it, drop the price, and they have the perfect storm for a comeback IF they can introduce some new & interesting IPs. i don't think GoW & GT5 have the power to do it alone
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#22 campzor
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[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"][QUOTE="Parasomniac"] This whole generation could be different right now if PS3 launched at $299 like PS2 did. People were pretty damn excited about the new Playstation until that horrible launch price happened. Completely killed momentum for it.Parasomniac
Mmmm i dont know about you.. but in aus the ps2 launched at $800 , approx the same as the ps3....
[QUOTE="campzor"]when i saw 'carljohnson3456' then i saw 'further proof the ps3 is done' My heart stopped for like a second :Ocarljohnson3456
The day CarlJohnson3456 thinks the PS3 is done... is the day the PS3 is really done. :lol:

Well...then..carljohnson..lets just hope that day never comes ey? :D
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#23 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Not that you did this CJ, but I hate when people try to pass off idiotic blogs they stumbled across on the web as some kind of evidence or proof or worse fact. Please take not Renegade! :P3picuri3
same stuff is being said by the leading financial publications in the country. cows still deny it. so whatevs, eh? i guess it makes some feel better when they can call out the little blogs, try tackling the articles by the big boys and we'll have a good laugh ;)

First of all, I'm not a cow. Second of all, I dont feel better "calling out this blog" at all, I'm just posting my opinion on it because that's what we do here in System Wars, right? We voice our own opinions. Ya know... the same way you compared the PS3 to the Dreamcast a few posts ago... how very original.
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#24 Wasdie  Moderator
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So some guys editoral and opinion is now proof? Not to mention the last sentence of the article...
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Not that you did this CJ, but I hate when people try to pass off idiotic blogs they stumbled across on the web as some kind of evidence, or proof, or even worse, fact. Please take note Renegade! :Pcarljohnson3456
I know what you mean... but mainly I just thought this article was System Wars worthy. C'mon man, this is a 50 page thread in the making!!! :lol:

Yea I know. You presented it in entirely the right way, rather than say if a lemming had put it up and declared it was proof of the end of times for Sony & the PS3!!! :D
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[QUOTE="Parasomniac"][QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] Yet, it still selling on par with the 360 from it's time of launch as well... I'm not calling it unfair to compare the two because of the 360's headstart, but it's not like the PS3 has unperformed in sales compared to the 360. They're actually selling close to the same rate world wide.blue_hazy_basic
This whole generation could be different right now if PS3 launched at $299 like PS2 did. People were pretty damn excited about the new Playstation until that horrible launch price happened. Completely killed momentum for it.

But it would have a been a totally different machine for that price, or Sony really would have gone bankrupt.

could have dropped bluray. it's more of a necessity for next gen imo, not this. we haven't seen anything that 'needed' it (disk swapping is still fine for the majority of people). of course it's nice to be able to watch BRD films, but it would have been nicer not shelling out 800$ when I bought my launch PS3 :). and a larger install base would mean more games...
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So some guys editoral and opinion is now proof? Not to mention the last sentence of the article...Wasdie
I think CJ put it up as the exact opposite ... :)
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#28 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="Parasomniac"] This whole generation could be different right now if PS3 launched at $299 like PS2 did. People were pretty damn excited about the new Playstation until that horrible launch price happened. Completely killed momentum for it.3picuri3
But it would have a been a totally different machine for that price, or Sony really would have gone bankrupt.

could have dropped bluray. it's more of a necessity for next gen imo, not this. we haven't seen anything that 'needed' it (disk swapping is still fine for the majority of people). of course it's nice to be able to watch BRD films, but it would have been nicer not shelling out 800$ when I bought my launch PS3 :). and a larger install base would mean more games...

I totally agree BR was not a clever move for the PS3, it was there simply to win the HD war.
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#29 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Not that you did this CJ, but I hate when people try to pass off idiotic blogs they stumbled across on the web as some kind of evidence or proof or worse fact. Please take not Renegade! :Pcarljohnson3456
same stuff is being said by the leading financial publications in the country. cows still deny it. so whatevs, eh? i guess it makes some feel better when they can call out the little blogs, try tackling the articles by the big boys and we'll have a good laugh ;)

First of all, I'm not a cow. Second of all, I dont feel better "calling out this blog" at all, I'm just posting my opinion on it because that's what we do here in System Wars, right? We voice our own opinions. Ya know... the same way you compared the PS3 to the Dreamcast a few posts ago... how very original.

funny how you take things i said to someone else as attacks on you. did somebody have another dream where people were chasing them down to give them the beats? :P i was making a point that the dreamcast is still considered alive by some because a few fringe developers make games for it. an illustration made in an attempt to show you how you're misunderstanding the use of 'dead' in the articles. they're not saying it's gone, that it has ceased to exist, they're talking about how it is stagnating, and failing to reach sales targets both in terms of software / hardware, things you can't deny.
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#30 carljohnson3456
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]Sonys only saving grace is that this generation of consoles will most likely last longer than previous generations. They still have a chance to get their act together.3picuri3
i totally agree with this. i think there is time, if they have some aces up their sleeve. it's not too late to bring some new & exciting IPs in to the ring. i personally think that's all they need. most people don't feel interested in the PS3 lineup when you just look at exclusives - i think that's why it's struggling in terms of software / hardware sales. give people more of a reason to buy it, drop the price, and they have the perfect storm for a comeback IF they can introduce some new & interesting IPs. i don't think GoW & GT5 have the power to do it alone

I'd say price is the biggest thing hindering the PS3, that and lack of decent advertising. I dont think the PS3 will come in first... heck, I dont even think it can come in second. All I'm saying here is the PS3 isnt a lost cause for Sony at this point.
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]Sonys only saving grace is that this generation of consoles will most likely last longer than previous generations. They still have a chance to get their act together.3picuri3
i totally agree with this. i think there is time, if they have some aces up their sleeve. it's not too late to bring some new & exciting IPs in to the ring. i personally think that's all they need. most people don't feel interested in the PS3 lineup when you just look at exclusives - i think that's why it's struggling in terms of software / hardware sales. give people more of a reason to buy it, drop the price, and they have the perfect storm for a comeback IF they can introduce some new & interesting IPs. i don't think GoW & GT5 have the power to do it alone

their line up looks lame compared to pc gaming. Killzone 2 looks pretty but I know the game play will not be like crysis. Coming from a high tech gamer I wouldn't be looking to buy a ps3.
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That article was extreme. TO THE MAX!. I disagree.
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]Sonys only saving grace is that this generation of consoles will most likely last longer than previous generations. They still have a chance to get their act together.3picuri3
i totally agree with this. i think there is time, if they have some aces up their sleeve. it's not too late to bring some new & exciting IPs in to the ring. i personally think that's all they need. most people don't feel interested in the PS3 lineup when you just look at exclusives - i think that's why it's struggling in terms of software / hardware sales. give people more of a reason to buy it, drop the price, and they have the perfect storm for a comeback IF they can introduce some new & interesting IPs. i don't think GoW & GT5 have the power to do it alone

its not even about what they bring to the table.... obviously they have had a few new IP's that dont get the spot light they deserve....heck even the heavy sequels like GOW3 or GT5, along with equal multiplats like res 5 COULD do it, if sony actually cared to market the games beyond 10-15 second snipits as comercials or the whole route of advertising all your high-lights in one big commercial that they dont even air enough of.... thats really the problem sony has when it comes to games..... they just dont want to spread the word when it comes to the heavy hitters or big name multiplats

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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="heretrix"]Sonys only saving grace is that this generation of consoles will most likely last longer than previous generations. They still have a chance to get their act together.carljohnson3456
i totally agree with this. i think there is time, if they have some aces up their sleeve. it's not too late to bring some new & exciting IPs in to the ring. i personally think that's all they need. most people don't feel interested in the PS3 lineup when you just look at exclusives - i think that's why it's struggling in terms of software / hardware sales. give people more of a reason to buy it, drop the price, and they have the perfect storm for a comeback IF they can introduce some new & interesting IPs. i don't think GoW & GT5 have the power to do it alone

I'd say price is the biggest thing hindering the PS3, that and lack of decent advertising. I dont think the PS3 will come in first... heck, I dont even think it can come in second. All I'm saying here is the PS3 isnt a lost cause for Sony at this point.

of course it isn't a lost cause.. mind you they are posting their first loss in 13 years, so you can't argue it's doing well for them. none of these articles say it's a lost cause, unless you take it from a fiscal / financial perspective. many investors are shying away / waiting until spring to see what they do. so yeah, long story short - it's not going to disappear like dreamcast. no chance. it's not dead in the true sense of the word, but in terms of competition, and fiscally, it is about as dead as you get relative to the other 2 consoles out there. but there is still plenty of time for things to change.
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I have not read the whole article, dont need to, but heres what I think.

I would have been more than happy with just a ps3 this gen, the online is lag free and easy to use, there has been a constant line of games coming from talanted 1st and 2nd party devs, warahawk, MGS4 and R& were brilliant, its always been evolving, its been a great media player and also wth plat TV recently my freeview recorder. Its literally my main home entertainment system.

There is a brilliant lineup of games to come, I could not be any more pleased with it.

The problem is still its price, if sony dropped it to around £200, whch apparently they are, it would sell sooo much better. Most people just want a games console, not everything else like i do, and so the 360 is the better choice. Sony needs to take the loss and drop the price.

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#36 Gh0st_Of_0nyx
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The ps3 was finished in 2007 with that horrible price tag. I completely agree with the writer of that blog.
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="heretrix"]Sonys only saving grace is that this generation of consoles will most likely last longer than previous generations. They still have a chance to get their act together.hyperboy152000

i totally agree with this. i think there is time, if they have some aces up their sleeve. it's not too late to bring some new & exciting IPs in to the ring. i personally think that's all they need. most people don't feel interested in the PS3 lineup when you just look at exclusives - i think that's why it's struggling in terms of software / hardware sales. give people more of a reason to buy it, drop the price, and they have the perfect storm for a comeback IF they can introduce some new & interesting IPs. i don't think GoW & GT5 have the power to do it alone

its not even about what they bring to the table.... obviously they have had a few new IP's that dont get the spot light they deserve....heck even the heavy sequels like GOW3 or GT5, along with equal multiplats like res 5 COULD do it, if sony actually cared to market the games beyond 10-15 second snipits as comercials or the whole route of advertising all your high-lights in one big commercial that they dont even air enough of.... thats really the problem sony has when it comes to games..... they just dont want to spread the word when it comes to the heavy hitters or big name multiplats

i have to agree with that too - their marketing has been atrocious. i know some of the hardcore faithful like the edgy post-modern stuff firms do for Sony, but it doesn't push consoles. they need to get back to the standard advertising they did with the PS1/PS2. you'd think they would have learned from the PSP (that's when they started getting weird / brief with their ads) that this approach really only appeals to a niche market, and doesn't actually convey what they're attempting to to a broad group of people. R2 ads are an excellent example, or LBP. both fail to really highlight the fun aspects of the game, or in LBP case - what the game actually is. back to basics for ads i say, stop it with the lame viral crap, and stop it with the post-modern EU ads.
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#38 lusitanogamer
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The funny thing is that probably in the end Sony will be laughing at all of this. This generation of consoles is still far from over. All the PS3 needs is a price tag below 300 dollars or euros for it to start selling really well. It has good games, it's reliable, probably has a longer lifespan than the competitors... all it really needs is a lower price.
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#39 SpruceCaboose
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Done in what sense? Its done in that it won't be the industry leader, but I don't think for a second that its done in the sense of being a good and compelling system.
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#41 3picuri3
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the online is lag free and easy to useNinjaMunkey01
that's a total lie. PS3 uses P2P as much as MS, hence the server stability if often hinged on the users. when i played Warhawk / R1 back when I had a PS3 I had lag just as much as the 360. I DONT get lag on my PC when using dedicated servers, so it's certainly not an issue with my connection. hell, disagree with me? google PS3 lag and check out the many threads on the official boards.
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#42 hyperboy152000
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="heretrix"]Sonys only saving grace is that this generation of consoles will most likely last longer than previous generations. They still have a chance to get their act together.blackdreamhunk
i totally agree with this. i think there is time, if they have some aces up their sleeve. it's not too late to bring some new & exciting IPs in to the ring. i personally think that's all they need. most people don't feel interested in the PS3 lineup when you just look at exclusives - i think that's why it's struggling in terms of software / hardware sales. give people more of a reason to buy it, drop the price, and they have the perfect storm for a comeback IF they can introduce some new & interesting IPs. i don't think GoW & GT5 have the power to do it alone

their line up looks lame compared to pc gaming. Killzone 2 looks pretty but I know the game play will not be like crysis. Coming from a high tech gamer I wouldn't be looking to buy a ps3.

and a high-tech developer wouldnt be looking at PC gaming if they want their games to sell......see what i did there?

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#43 FirstDiscovery
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Had it not been for the recession the PS3 wouldve been okay Sad really that a great console is suffering. Whats worse is that it could take down Sony with it. With that said, if the recession isnt too bad, itll hold steady, Sony will soon lower its costs (while they push the PSP and PS2) and eventually theyll break even on it
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#44 FirstDiscovery
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[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]the online is lag free and easy to use3picuri3
that's a total lie. PS3 uses P2P as much as MS, hence the server stability if often hinged on the users. when i played Warhawk / R1 back when I had a PS3 I had lag just as much as the 360. I DONT get lag on my PC when using dedicated servers, so it's certainly not an issue with my connection. hell, disagree with me? google PS3 lag and check out the many threads on the official boards.

Actually those two games you mentioned are fantastic examples of console MP, and Sony did it right with them. With that said, XBL is overall a smoother service when it comes to client-based online gaming
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#45 hyperboy152000
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[QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]the online is lag free and easy to use3picuri3
that's a total lie. PS3 uses P2P as much as MS, hence the server stability if often hinged on the users. when i played Warhawk / R1 back when I had a PS3 I had lag just as much as the 360. I DONT get lag on my PC when using dedicated servers, so it's certainly not an issue with my connection. hell, disagree with me? google PS3 lag and check out the many threads on the official boards.

im not disagreeing with you....the socom servers used to be horrible even though they are dedicated, worse then COD4 was hen that game as laggy....but the r2 servers are smooth as butter when ever im on...even in full 60 player matches, but doesnt MS use P2p even with first party games?

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#46 3picuri3
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Done in what sense? Its done in that it won't be the industry leader, but I don't think for a second that its done in the sense of being a good and compelling system.SpruceCaboose
i think if it was good & compelling enough it would be selling better. problem is most people already have a current gen console, so that takes multiplats out of the equation for the most part. what are you left with? sequels to PS2 games that don't interest everybody, and LBP. i'm not being a fanboy when I say only 2 exclusives on the system interest me, it's the truth. i think it holds true for many gamers... if not, then tell me why PS3 software sells so poorly, and why the hardware continues to lag despite it being 'good & compelling'.
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#47 hyperboy152000
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Had it not been for the recession the PS3 wouldve been okay Sad really that a great console is suffering. Whats worse is that it could take down Sony with it. With that said, if the recession isnt too bad, itll hold steady, Sony will soon lower its costs (while they push the PSP and PS2) and eventually theyll break even on itFirstDiscovery

sony wont die......at its worst it will just not make a console for a generation if they had to

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#48 sasapac
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ps3 will never done

ps3 gets better every year

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#49 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="NinjaMunkey01"]the online is lag free and easy to usehyperboy152000

that's a total lie. PS3 uses P2P as much as MS, hence the server stability if often hinged on the users. when i played Warhawk / R1 back when I had a PS3 I had lag just as much as the 360. I DONT get lag on my PC when using dedicated servers, so it's certainly not an issue with my connection. hell, disagree with me? google PS3 lag and check out the many threads on the official boards.

im not disagreeing with you....the socom servers used to be horrible even though they are dedicated, worse then COD4 was hen that game as laggy....but the r2 servers are smooth as butter when ever im on...even in full 60 player matches, but doesnt MS use P2p even with first party games?

it's up to the developers I think - you can google and find a list of P2P vs Dedicated server games for both consoles. used to be a chart floating around here. i'm not saying MS is lag free, i know it isn't because i've owned both consoles this gen. i'm just saying calling it 'lag-free' is an outright lie.
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#50 SpruceCaboose
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[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]Done in what sense? Its done in that it won't be the industry leader, but I don't think for a second that its done in the sense of being a good and compelling system.3picuri3
i think if it was good & compelling enough it would be selling better. problem is most people already have a current gen console, so that takes multiplats out of the equation for the most part. what are you left with? sequels to PS2 games that don't interest everybody, and LBP. i'm not being a fanboy when I say only 2 exclusives on the system interest me, it's the truth. i think it holds true for many gamers... if not, then tell me why PS3 software sells so poorly, and why the hardware continues to lag despite it being 'good & compelling'.

Good and compelling to me. Your dislike of the PS3 and its software is well known, so I don't think anything beyond free PS3s would appeal to you.