Future XBOX ONE owners...

I expect there to be at most a 5% difference in performance between the two. The XBox One will only perform slightly better than the PS4. The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3.

The PS4 will probably have some frame rate issues, but the Sony fans will ignore them.

Not at all. The 360 is technically weaker than the PS3 and did fine. People will be fine with whatever console they choose. 

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]This is like the forth times i've seen xbox fanboys making thread asking shit among themselves. How about post it in the xbox forum?chicagog19

Not at all. The 360 is technically weaker than the PS3 and did fine. People will be fine with whatever console they choose. 

[QUOTE="chicagog19"]

[QUOTE="rjdofu"]This is like the forth times i've seen xbox fanboys making thread asking shit among themselves. How about post it in the xbox forum?rjdofu

Not at all. The 360 is technically weaker than the PS3 and did fine. People will be fine with whatever console they choose. 

Yup. I made the edit. 

I expect there to be at most a 5% difference in performance between the two. The XBox One will only perform slightly better than the PS4. The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3.

The PS4 will probably have some frame rate issues, but the Sony fans will ignore them.

Esfan13

How can you assume any of that when the systems have similar architecture and the PS4 clearly has the better specs?

Nothing about this is " The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3."

Are you implying people are actually going to buy the Xbone?

[QUOTE="Esfan13"]

I expect there to be at most a 5% difference in performance between the two. The XBox One will only perform slightly better than the PS4. The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3.

The PS4 will probably have some frame rate issues, but the Sony fans will ignore them.

Wiimotefan

How can you assume any of that when the systems have similar architecture and the PS4 clearly has the better specs?

Nothing about this is " The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3."

I think we might see another PS2 gen on our hands.

I think we might see another PS2 gen on our hands.

comptonst88

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="Esfan13"]

I expect there to be at most a 5% difference in performance between the two. The XBox One will only perform slightly better than the PS4. The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3.

The PS4 will probably have some frame rate issues, but the Sony fans will ignore them.

rjdofu

How can you assume any of that when the systems have similar architecture and the PS4 clearly has the better specs?

Nothing about this is " The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3."

The word cloud is starting to become synonymous with the word bullsh*t.  

I think I'll step outside and check out the bullsh*t in the sky, hope I don't step in a pile of cloud.

For those of you who are buying a XBOX ONE at launch or sometime thereafter, I was curious if you are at all afraid that at some point down the road, 3rd party devs may not make games for the X1 because of an apparent lack of "horse power under the hood" so to speak? Or do you think that the the difference in technical specs between the XBOX ONE and PS4 is being way overblown by the Sony fanboys?ShoTTyMcNaDeS

I think we might see another PS2 gen on our hands.

comptonst88

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]For those of you who are buying a XBOX ONE at launch or sometime thereafter, I was curious if you are at all afraid that at some point down the road, 3rd party devs may not make games for the X1 because of an apparent lack of "horse power under the hood" so to speak? Or do you think that the the difference in technical specs between the XBOX ONE and PS4 is being way overblown by the Sony fanboys?BlackShirt20

[QUOTE="Esfan13"]

I expect there to be at most a 5% difference in performance between the two. The XBox One will only perform slightly better than the PS4. The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3.

The PS4 will probably have some frame rate issues, but the Sony fans will ignore them.

Wiimotefan

How can you assume any of that when the systems have similar architecture and the PS4 clearly has the better specs?

Nothing about this is " The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3."

The PS4 "appears" to have better specs on paper. Real world performance will show that the XBox One design is actually better. Microsoft's PR may suck, but their engineers know what they are doing. This forum is going to be fun when both systems are released.

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]For those of you who are buying a XBOX ONE at launch or sometime thereafter, I was curious if you are at all afraid that at some point down the road, 3rd party devs may not make games for the X1 because of an apparent lack of "horse power under the hood" so to speak? Or do you think that the the difference in technical specs between the XBOX ONE and PS4 is being way overblown by the Sony fanboys?BlackShirt20

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="Esfan13"]

I expect there to be at most a 5% difference in performance between the two. The XBox One will only perform slightly better than the PS4. The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3.

The PS4 will probably have some frame rate issues, but the Sony fans will ignore them.

Esfan13

How can you assume any of that when the systems have similar architecture and the PS4 clearly has the better specs?

Nothing about this is " The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3."

The PS4 "appears" to have better specs on paper. Real world performance will show that the XBox One design is actually better. Microsoft's PR may suck, but their engineers know what they are doing. This forum is going to be fun when both systems are released.

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="Esfan13"]

I expect there to be at most a 5% difference in performance between the two. The XBox One will only perform slightly better than the PS4. The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3.

The PS4 will probably have some frame rate issues, but the Sony fans will ignore them.

Esfan13

How can you assume any of that when the systems have similar architecture and the PS4 clearly has the better specs?

Nothing about this is " The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3."

The PS4 "appears" to have better specs on paper. Real world performance will show that the XBox One design is actually better. Microsoft's PR may suck, but their engineers know what they are doing. This forum is going to be fun when both systems are released.

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="Esfan13"]

I expect there to be at most a 5% difference in performance between the two. The XBox One will only perform slightly better than the PS4. The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3.

The PS4 will probably have some frame rate issues, but the Sony fans will ignore them.

Esfan13

How can you assume any of that when the systems have similar architecture and the PS4 clearly has the better specs?

Nothing about this is " The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3."

The PS4 "appears" to have better specs on paper. Real world performance will show that the XBox One design is actually better. Microsoft's PR may suck, but their engineers know what they are doing. This forum is going to be fun when both systems are released.

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]For those of you who are buying a XBOX ONE at launch or sometime thereafter, I was curious if you are at all afraid that at some point down the road, 3rd party devs may not make games for the X1 because of an apparent lack of "horse power under the hood" so to speak? Or do you think that the the difference in technical specs between the XBOX ONE and PS4 is being way overblown by the Sony fanboys?BlackShirt20

How many times does it have to be said that when the dev was talking about Watchdogs that they were comparing current gen to next gen consoles.  Its foolish to believe that the PS4 couldnt play those games. Hell, if anything they will perform better on PS4.

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="Esfan13"]

I expect there to be at most a 5% difference in performance between the two. The XBox One will only perform slightly better than the PS4. The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3.

The PS4 will probably have some frame rate issues, but the Sony fans will ignore them.

Esfan13

How can you assume any of that when the systems have similar architecture and the PS4 clearly has the better specs?

Nothing about this is " The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3."

The PS4 "appears" to have better specs on paper. Real world performance will show that the XBox One design is actually better. Microsoft's PR may suck, but their engineers know what they are doing. This forum is going to be fun when both systems are released.

Not at all.  This isnt the PS3/360.  This isnt comparing some ass backwards proprietary hardware from Sony to a typical architecture.  These systems are directly comparable and the PS4 clearly has the upper hand.

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="Esfan13"]

I expect there to be at most a 5% difference in performance between the two. The XBox One will only perform slightly better than the PS4. The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3.

The PS4 will probably have some frame rate issues, but the Sony fans will ignore them.

Esfan13

How can you assume any of that when the systems have similar architecture and the PS4 clearly has the better specs?

Nothing about this is " The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3."

The PS4 "appears" to have better specs on paper. Real world performance will show that the XBox One design is actually better. Microsoft's PR may suck, but their engineers know what they are doing. This forum is going to be fun when both systems are released.

Is that why linear games with bad graphics are running at sub-30 FPS on the xbox ONE?

Is that why some games are running on sub-1080p on the xbox ONE?

I expect there to be at most a 5% difference in performance between the two. The XBox One will only perform slightly better than the PS4. The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3.

The PS4 will probably have some frame rate issues, but the Sony fans will ignore them.

Esfan13

[QUOTE="Esfan13"]

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

How can you assume any of that when the systems have similar architecture and the PS4 clearly has the better specs?

Nothing about this is " The same situation we had with the 360 and the PS3."

Murderstyle75

The PS4 "appears" to have better specs on paper. Real world performance will show that the XBox One design is actually better. Microsoft's PR may suck, but their engineers know what they are doing. This forum is going to be fun when both systems are released.

The RROD was caused by the government mandated switch to leadless solder. The assemblers screwed up and used the old techniques which worked fine with leaded solder, but failed with leadless solder. I thought everyone knew that. It was not Microsoft's fault, but they did the right thing and replaced the affected consoles.

[QUOTE="BlackShirt20"][QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]For those of you who are buying a XBOX ONE at launch or sometime thereafter, I was curious if you are at all afraid that at some point down the road, 3rd party devs may not make games for the X1 because of an apparent lack of "horse power under the hood" so to speak? Or do you think that the the difference in technical specs between the XBOX ONE and PS4 is being way overblown by the Sony fanboys?comptonst88

How many times does it have to be said that when the dev was talking about Watchdogs that they were comparing current gen to next gen consoles. Its foolish to believe that the PS4 couldnt play those games. Hell, if anything they will perform better on PS4.

Are you this butthurt over Titanfall not being on the PoS4 because they "lack the technology to support it"?

Has that  ever  happened?

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="Esfan13"]

The PS4 "appears" to have better specs on paper. Real world performance will show that the XBox One design is actually better. Microsoft's PR may suck, but their engineers know what they are doing. This forum is going to be fun when both systems are released.

Esfan13

The RROD was caused by the government mandated switch to leadless solder. The assemblers screwed up and used the old techniques which worked fine with leaded solder, but failed with leadless solder. I thought everyone knew that. It was not Microsoft's fault, but they did the right thing and replaced the affected consoles.

For those of you who are buying a XBOX ONE at launch or sometime thereafter, I was curious if you are at all afraid that at some point down the road, 3rd party devs may not make games for the X1 because of an apparent lack of "horse power under the hood" so to speak? Or do you think that the the difference in technical specs between the XBOX ONE and PS4 is being way overblown by the Sony fanboys?ShoTTyMcNaDeS

[QUOTE="comptonst88"]

[QUOTE="BlackShirt20"] LOL is this thread serious? The difference in "horsepower" was much wider last generation between the PS3 and 360. Infact, the PS3 was almost double the power of the 360. The difference now is roughly 20%-25%. which is still a lot. But sony fanboys try desperately to make it seem like the PS4 is some kind of god box. The problem is, the PS4 doesn't even have the technology to handle games like Titanfall orr give you the full game experience of watch dogs. So no. not in the least. BlackShirt20

How many times does it have to be said that when the dev was talking about Watchdogs that they were comparing current gen to next gen consoles. Its foolish to believe that the PS4 couldnt play those games. Hell, if anything they will perform better on PS4.

Are you this butthurt over Titanfall not being on the PoS4 because they "lack the technology to support it"?

Are you seriously buying into MS's bullcrap hype of "teh CLOWDS", lol 

anyway,

Im mot even mad cause Titanfall is gonna be a timed exclusive anyway, or at least most likely considering the dev said a PS4 version isnt out of the question. Not to mention that "teh CLOWDS" are not required to play Titanfall, its just some overhyped, unproven tech that MS is hyping to everyone.   and your probably just trolling anyway cause everybody saw the watchdogs PS4 GAMEPLAY during E3 and it looked and performed fantastically.  

No. The only people worried about the XBONE's horsepower is Cows who will not buy one anyways. And aside from one or two Lems who are only here to troll, Cows are the only people bringing up clouds.

It is always Cows....

Damn, mad cow disease spreads fast

No. The only people worried about the XBONE's horsepower is Cows who will not buy one anyways. And aside from one or two Lems who are only here to troll, Cows are the only people bringing up clouds.

It is always Cows....

timbers_WSU

This is like the forth times i've seen xbox fanboys making thread asking shit among themselves. How about post it in the xbox forum?rjdofu

I own a Nintendo console and you're worried about Xbox One getting shafted?

If the PS4 is as powerful as Fanboys here say it is, It will be the most shafted because 3rd Parties will aim to release a game in the most platforms as possible.

PS4 will never peak in power in the hands of 3rd Party. (that is if we believe the fans interpretation of "Power".)

if anything the PS4 should be worried too.

Killzone, Knack and Driveclub all fail to stay at 30 FPS from the previews I read, and Driveclub is running at 720p with its framerate dipping to the 20s.

You know what?  I asked this very same question to a couple fat virgins at Gamestop. They said, and i quote, "xbox one sucks."  These guys would know because they are cool. 

if anything the PS4 should be worried too.

 

Killzone, Knack and Driveclub all fail to stay at 30 FPS from the previews I read, and Driveclub is running at 720p with its framerate dipping to the 20s.

DrkeX

No shown PS4 game was running at sub-1080p... Can't say the same about the games shown for the xbox ONE...

And you shouldn't worry about the PS4. We already know what it's capable of after seeing it run The Division fairly smoothly.

The ONE can't even play linear non-racing/fighting games at 1080p at 30 FPS.

[QUOTE="DrkeX"]

if anything the PS4 should be worried too.

 

Killzone, Knack and Driveclub all fail to stay at 30 FPS from the previews I read, and Driveclub is running at 720p with its framerate dipping to the 20s.

CallOfDutyRulez

No shown PS4 game was running at sub-1080p... Can't say the same about the games shown for the xbox ONE...

And you shouldn't worry about the PS4. We already know what it's capable of after seeing it run The Division fairly smoothly.

The ONE can't play demanding games at 1080p.

DriveClub
When questioned, Evolution Studios confirms that it's pushed for a full-fat 1080p presentation, falling in line with all Sony's other leading PS4 titles. Unfortunately, this higher resolution only amplifies the low quality, blurry, flat-looking textures used across this level, which would easily look at home on current-gen hardware. It's also a shame that, while the scenery draw distance is broad, there's an incredible amount of pop-in for trees and waving NPCs as we approach at high speeds...With regards to performance, we're surprised to find DriveClub is running at 30fps with permanent v-sync - an unusual step for any modern-day racer putting heavy emphasis on shaving seconds from lap times. It is noted that 60fps is something the team strives for, but no promises can be made; in the interest of providing a smooth E3 experience it remains decidedly locked at 30fps for now. Alas, even this number isn't held convincingly during our play-testing, and the game dips noticeably below this point - a feeling of 20fps being achieved during doughnut-turns, where lots of tyre friction smoke is produced. Bearing in mind the PS4's next-gen tech (not to mention its 32 ROPs), we're somewhat surprised to see alpha transparency effects still having such an obvious impact on performance. They have no dropped the resolution to 720p and still cannot hit that 30fps mark.

Say again?

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="DrkeX"]

if anything the PS4 should be worried too.

 

Killzone, Knack and Driveclub all fail to stay at 30 FPS from the previews I read, and Driveclub is running at 720p with its framerate dipping to the 20s.

DrkeX

No shown PS4 game was running at sub-1080p... Can't say the same about the games shown for the xbox ONE...

And you shouldn't worry about the PS4. We already know what it's capable of after seeing it run The Division fairly smoothly.

The ONE can't play demanding games at 1080p.

DriveClub
When questioned, Evolution Studios confirms that it's pushed for a full-fat 1080p presentation, falling in line with all Sony's other leading PS4 titles. Unfortunately, this higher resolution only amplifies the low quality, blurry, flat-looking textures used across this level, which would easily look at home on current-gen hardware. It's also a shame that, while the scenery draw distance is broad, there's an incredible amount of pop-in for trees and waving NPCs as we approach at high speeds...With regards to performance, we're surprised to find DriveClub is running at 30fps with permanent v-sync - an unusual step for any modern-day racer putting heavy emphasis on shaving seconds from lap times. It is noted that 60fps is something the team strives for, but no promises can be made; in the interest of providing a smooth E3 experience it remains decidedly locked at 30fps for now. Alas, even this number isn't held convincingly during our play-testing, and the game dips noticeably below this point - a feeling of 20fps being achieved during doughnut-turns, where lots of tyre friction smoke is produced. Bearing in mind the PS4's next-gen tech (not to mention its 32 ROPs), we're somewhat surprised to see alpha transparency effects still having such an obvious impact on performance. They have no dropped the resolution to 720p and still cannot hit that 30fps mark.

Say again?

Apparently, your reading comprehension fails, which is common amongst lemmings.

The game is running at 1080p.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="DrkeX"]

if anything the PS4 should be worried too.

 

Killzone, Knack and Driveclub all fail to stay at 30 FPS from the previews I read, and Driveclub is running at 720p with its framerate dipping to the 20s.

DrkeX

No shown PS4 game was running at sub-1080p... Can't say the same about the games shown for the xbox ONE...

And you shouldn't worry about the PS4. We already know what it's capable of after seeing it run The Division fairly smoothly.

The ONE can't play demanding games at 1080p.

DriveClub
When questioned, Evolution Studios confirms that it's pushed for a full-fat 1080p presentation, falling in line with all Sony's other leading PS4 titles. Unfortunately, this higher resolution only amplifies the low quality, blurry, flat-looking textures used across this level, which would easily look at home on current-gen hardware. It's also a shame that, while the scenery draw distance is broad, there's an incredible amount of pop-in for trees and waving NPCs as we approach at high speeds...With regards to performance, we're surprised to find DriveClub is running at 30fps with permanent v-sync - an unusual step for any modern-day racer putting heavy emphasis on shaving seconds from lap times. It is noted that 60fps is something the team strives for, but no promises can be made; in the interest of providing a smooth E3 experience it remains decidedly locked at 30fps for now. Alas, even this number isn't held convincingly during our play-testing, and the game dips noticeably below this point - a feeling of 20fps being achieved during doughnut-turns, where lots of tyre friction smoke is produced. Bearing in mind the PS4's next-gen tech (not to mention its 32 ROPs), we're somewhat surprised to see alpha transparency effects still having such an obvious impact on performance. They have no dropped the resolution to 720p and still cannot hit that 30fps mark.

Say again?

[QUOTE="DrkeX"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

No shown PS4 game was running at sub-1080p... Can't say the same about the games shown for the xbox ONE...

And you shouldn't worry about the PS4. We already know what it's capable of after seeing it run The Division fairly smoothly.

The ONE can't play demanding games at 1080p.

CallOfDutyRulez

DriveClub
When questioned, Evolution Studios confirms that it's pushed for a full-fat 1080p presentation, falling in line with all Sony's other leading PS4 titles. Unfortunately, this higher resolution only amplifies the low quality, blurry, flat-looking textures used across this level, which would easily look at home on current-gen hardware. It's also a shame that, while the scenery draw distance is broad, there's an incredible amount of pop-in for trees and waving NPCs as we approach at high speeds...With regards to performance, we're surprised to find DriveClub is running at 30fps with permanent v-sync - an unusual step for any modern-day racer putting heavy emphasis on shaving seconds from lap times. It is noted that 60fps is something the team strives for, but no promises can be made; in the interest of providing a smooth E3 experience it remains decidedly locked at 30fps for now. Alas, even this number isn't held convincingly during our play-testing, and the game dips noticeably below this point - a feeling of 20fps being achieved during doughnut-turns, where lots of tyre friction smoke is produced. Bearing in mind the PS4's next-gen tech (not to mention its 32 ROPs), we're somewhat surprised to see alpha transparency effects still having such an obvious impact on performance. They have no dropped the resolution to 720p and still cannot hit that 30fps mark.

Say again?

Apparently, your reading comprehension fails, which is common amongst lemmings.

The game is running at 1080p.

Says the guy that didn't read the last paraghraph, the Resolution is now 720p on Driveclub.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="DrkeX"]

 

 

DriveClub
When questioned, Evolution Studios confirms that it's pushed for a full-fat 1080p presentation, falling in line with all Sony's other leading PS4 titles. Unfortunately, this higher resolution only amplifies the low quality, blurry, flat-looking textures used across this level, which would easily look at home on current-gen hardware. It's also a shame that, while the scenery draw distance is broad, there's an incredible amount of pop-in for trees and waving NPCs as we approach at high speeds...With regards to performance, we're surprised to find DriveClub is running at 30fps with permanent v-sync - an unusual step for any modern-day racer putting heavy emphasis on shaving seconds from lap times. It is noted that 60fps is something the team strives for, but no promises can be made; in the interest of providing a smooth E3 experience it remains decidedly locked at 30fps for now. Alas, even this number isn't held convincingly during our play-testing, and the game dips noticeably below this point - a feeling of 20fps being achieved during doughnut-turns, where lots of tyre friction smoke is produced. Bearing in mind the PS4's next-gen tech (not to mention its 32 ROPs), we're somewhat surprised to see alpha transparency effects still having such an obvious impact on performance. They have no dropped the resolution to 720p and still cannot hit that 30fps mark.

Say again?

DrkeX

Apparently, your reading comprehension fails, which is common amongst lemmings.

The game is running at 1080p.

Says the guy that didn't read the last paraghraph, the Resolution is now 720p on Driveclub.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/691088-xbox-one/66740485

Is this you?

You quoted yourself and you added a sentence that wasn't in the original DigitalFoundry article.