Future XBOX ONE owners...

For those of you who are buying a XBOX ONE at launch or sometime thereafter, I was curious if you are at all afraid that at some point down the road, 3rd party devs may not make games for the X1 because of an apparent lack of "horse power under the hood" so to speak? Or do you think that the the difference in technical specs between the XBOX ONE and PS4 is being way overblown by the Sony fanboys?ShoTTyMcNaDeS

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]For those of you who are buying a XBOX ONE at launch or sometime thereafter, I was curious if you are at all afraid that at some point down the road, 3rd party devs may not make games for the X1 because of an apparent lack of "horse power under the hood" so to speak? Or do you think that the the difference in technical specs between the XBOX ONE and PS4 is being way overblown by the Sony fanboys?2ndWonder

No, but they stopped making games for the xbox because PS2 had a large marketshare.

It's not power that you lemrats should be worried about. It's the return of 3rd party exclusives because of Microsoft's dismal marketshare that should be worrying you.

[QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]For those of you who are buying a XBOX ONE at launch or sometime thereafter, I was curious if you are at all afraid that at some point down the road, 3rd party devs may not make games for the X1 because of an apparent lack of "horse power under the hood" so to speak? Or do you think that the the difference in technical specs between the XBOX ONE and PS4 is being way overblown by the Sony fanboys?BlackShirt20

[QUOTE="BlackShirt20"][QUOTE="ShoTTyMcNaDeS"]For those of you who are buying a XBOX ONE at launch or sometime thereafter, I was curious if you are at all afraid that at some point down the road, 3rd party devs may not make games for the X1 because of an apparent lack of "horse power under the hood" so to speak? Or do you think that the the difference in technical specs between the XBOX ONE and PS4 is being way overblown by the Sony fanboys?shinko28

Titanfall isn't even in 1080p on the xbox ONE. What a weak machine.

LMAO games like Titan fall. that Game looks so last gen, that I am trying to find out how come you are still hyping it. shinko28

Quick question. Are technical graphics all that matters?

[QUOTE="shinko28"][QUOTE="BlackShirt20"] LOL is this thread serious? The difference in "horsepower" was much wider last generation between the PS3 and 360. Infact, the PS3 was almost double the power of the 360. The difference now is roughly 20%-25%. which is still a lot. But sony fanboys try desperately to make it seem like the PS4 is some kind of god box. The problem is, the PS4 doesn't even have the technology to handle games like Titanfall orr give you the full game experience of watch dogs. So no. not in the least. CallOfDutyRulez

Titanfall isn't even in 1080p on the xbox ONE.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="shinko28"] LMAO games like Titan fall. that Game looks so last gen, that I am trying to find out how come you are still hyping it. Kaz_Son

Titanfall isn't even in 1080p on the xbox ONE.

Yup. Straight from DF:

In the pursuit of 60fps, something has to give way though - and it usually comes to light when looking too closely. It's the uncanny facial animations during NPC briefings, the rough-looking textures on Titan interiors and billboards, and what seem like scaling artifacts that betray either Titanfall's early development status, or its commitment to being about gameplay first, appearances second. The jaggies are a curious point in particular; even judged by the high quality feed we have availability direct from the Microsoft E3 conference there's more sub-pixel shimmering and rough edges than any other game on show, which suggests this may not be a full-blown 1080p title in its current state. From what Respawn has announced so far, the 60fps bullet-point is proudly announced, but it remains tight-lipped on what native resolution is intended for the final game.

So it has worse graphics than last-gen's game, isn't running at 1080p and still struggles to run at 60 FPS. It's an embarassment.

You know what?  I asked this very same question to a couple fat virgins at Gamestop. They said, and i quote, "xbox one sucks."  These guys would know because they are cool. 

the330and419

Regarding GameStop's employees, I went to preorder an Xbox One, and had a conversation with one of the fellows there.

Me: "You guys have any preorders left for the Xbox?" Him: "Yes." Me: "Good, good."

He started getting the transaction set up. Silence occurs for the next minute, until I asked which console he was getting.

Me: "So, which console are you getting, if any?" Him: "Uh, I actually had an Xbox reserved... But I, uh, decided to get a PS4 instead." Me: Oh... What sparked that? What aren't you liking about the Xbox?" Him: "Everyone is talking about how the PS4 is supposed to be better and stuff. It was out of impulse, really. I regret it now. I just now found out they took all that crap away." (this was the day of the policy reversal) Me: "Well, you can always switch back." Him: "No, you're getting the one I canceled." We both laughed.

[QUOTE="shinko28"]LMAO games like Titan fall. that Game looks so last gen, that I am trying to find out how come you are still hyping it. lundy86_4

Quick question. Are technical graphics all that matters?

Well sure is lacking in the game play dept, since its just a clone of COD with mechs. shinko28

Pretty sad comeback. You, also, didn't answer my question :roll:

[QUOTE="the330and419"]

You know what?  I asked this very same question to a couple fat virgins at Gamestop. They said, and i quote, "xbox one sucks."  These guys would know because they are cool. 

ShaineTheNerd

Regarding GameStop's employees, I went to preorder an Xbox One, and had a conversation with one of the fellows there.

Me: "You guys have any preorders left for the Xbox?"
Him: "Yes."
"Good, good."

He started getting the transaction set up. Silence occurs for the next minute, until I asked which console he was getting.
Me: "So, which console are you getting, if any?"
Him: "Uh, I actually had an Xbox reserved... But I, uh, decided to get a PS4 instead."
"Oh... What sparked that? What aren't you liking about the Xbox?"
"Everyone is talking about how the PS4 is supposed to be better and stuff. It was out of impulse, really. I regret it now. I just now found out they took all that crap away." (this was the day of the policy reversal)
"Well, you can always switch back."
"No, you're getting the one I canceled." We both laughed.

[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Titanfall isn't even in 1080p on the xbox ONE. CallOfDutyRulez

Yup. Straight from DF:

In the pursuit of 60fps, something has to give way though - and it usually comes to light when looking too closely. It's the uncanny facial animations during NPC briefings, the rough-looking textures on Titan interiors and billboards, and what seem like scaling artifacts that betray either Titanfall's early development status, or its commitment to being about gameplay first, appearances second. The jaggies are a curious point in particular; even judged by the high quality feed we have availability direct from the Microsoft E3 conference there's more sub-pixel shimmering and rough edges than any other game on show, which suggests this may not be a full-blown 1080p title in its current state. From what Respawn has announced so far, the 60fps bullet-point is proudly announced, but it remains tight-lipped on what native resolution is intended for the final game.

So it has worse graphics than last-gen's game, isn't running at 1080p and still struggles to run at 60 FPS. It's an embarassment.

[QUOTE="shinko28"]Well sure is lacking in the game play dept, since its just a clone of COD with mechs. lundy86_4

Pretty sad comeback. You, also, didn't answer my question :roll:

[QUOTE="Kaz_Son"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

Titanfall isn't even in 1080p on the xbox ONE. CallOfDutyRulez

Yup. Straight from DF:

In the pursuit of 60fps, something has to give way though - and it usually comes to light when looking too closely. It's the uncanny facial animations during NPC briefings, the rough-looking textures on Titan interiors and billboards, and what seem like scaling artifacts that betray either Titanfall's early development status, or its commitment to being about gameplay first, appearances second. The jaggies are a curious point in particular; even judged by the high quality feed we have availability direct from the Microsoft E3 conference there's more sub-pixel shimmering and rough edges than any other game on show, which suggests this may not be a full-blown 1080p title in its current state. From what Respawn has announced so far, the 60fps bullet-point is proudly announced, but it remains tight-lipped on what native resolution is intended for the final game.

So it has worse graphics than last-gen's game, isn't running at 1080p and still struggles to run at 60 FPS. It's an embarassment.

No, but they stopped making games for the xbox because PS2 had a large marketshare.

It's not power that you lemrats should be worried about. It's the return of 3rd party exclusives because of Microsoft's dismal marketshare that should be worrying you.

CallOfDutyRulez

The difference between the ps4 and xbox one in terms of specs is not massive. It will be easily to downport games to the xbox one as long as it sells.Games will look great on both platforms.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

No, but they stopped making games for the xbox because PS2 had a large marketshare.

It's not power that you lemrats should be worried about. It's the return of 3rd party exclusives because of Microsoft's dismal marketshare that should be worrying you.

2ndWonder

If power wasn't important, then the PS2 would be at 300 million sales right now and no 3rd party would be making games for the PS3 and 360.

The difference with next gen is that the most powerful console is not the most expensive console. That's what's going to make the PS4 so appealing.

The difference between the ps4 and xbox one in terms of specs is not massive. It will be easily to downport games to the xbox one as long as it sells.Games will look great on both platforms.

super600

The difference is massive... There's a difference of 700 GFlops between the 2 GPUs, which is equivalent to the power of approximately 3.5 xbox 360s.

Whether we're going to see a massive graphical difference is what's to be debated.

[QUOTE="super600"]

The difference between the ps4 and xbox one in terms of specs is not massive. It will be easily to downport games to the xbox one as long as it sells.Games will look great on both platforms.

CallOfDutyRulez

The difference is massive... There's a difference of 700 GFlops between the 2 GPUs, which is equivalent to the power of approximately 3.5 xbox 360s.

Whether we're going to see a massive graphical difference is what's to be debated.

Using gflops is not a good idea to determine how powerful either console is.

There won't be a massive difference in graphics between both consoles anyway.

devs like money.

well that is your answer. Since the game play is lacking, then what else do you have left? Graphics! but i forgot, Titanfall has the CLOUD

shinko28

Pretty sad, bro. We've only seen a little of the gameplay, and TBH, the CoD gameplay has been pretty solid. There are issues, but there is with every game.

devs like money.

Riverwolf007

for to be made.AtariKidX

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

No, but they stopped making games for the xbox because PS2 had a large marketshare.

It's not power that you lemrats should be worried about. It's the return of 3rd party exclusives because of Microsoft's dismal marketshare that should be worrying you.

2ndWonder

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

The difference between the ps4 and xbox one in terms of specs is not massive. It will be easily to downport games to the xbox one as long as it sells.Games will look great on both platforms.

super600

The difference is massive... There's a difference of 700 GFlops between the 2 GPUs, which is equivalent to the power of approximately 3.5 xbox 360s.

Whether we're going to see a massive graphical difference is what's to be debated.

Using gflops is not a good idea to determine how powerful either console is.

There won't be a massive difference in graphics between both consoles anyway.

And why not? Both are from the same AMD 7000-series architecture. It's just that one had to sacrifice space for the eSRAM to account for the slow bandwidth on the DDR3 RAM while the other used the free space to add more compute units.

Devs don't make games for a system because it is or isn't powerful, they do it because of the installed base and the possibility of profit.

You're pretending to be naive in the OP.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="super600"]

The difference between the ps4 and xbox one in terms of specs is not massive. It will be easily to downport games to the xbox one as long as it sells.Games will look great on both platforms.

super600

The difference is massive... There's a difference of 700 GFlops between the 2 GPUs, which is equivalent to the power of approximately 3.5 xbox 360s.

Whether we're going to see a massive graphical difference is what's to be debated.

Using gflops is not a good idea to determine how powerful either console is.

There won't be a massive difference in graphics between both consoles anyway.

[QUOTE="timbers_WSU"]

No. The only people worried about the XBONE's horsepower is Cows who will not buy one anyways. And aside from one or two Lems who are only here to troll, Cows are the only people bringing up clouds.

It is always Cows....

Murderstyle75

Not worried about that in the slightest. Numerous analysts have stated that practically speaking the differences were not big enough to make the differences too noticeable. PS3 is techinically superior to the 360 and that didn't turn out to be a big deal. Also, X1's cloud will be much better than the PS4 one....dedicated servers for all online games is just icing on the cake..while it won't make up for the raw power differences, it may allow a lot of cool things to happen on the X1 that cannot be done on the PS4. 

I find it somewhat amusing that the question is even posed. The Consoles are even closer in terms of power than they were with the PS3/360.

Not worried about that in the slightest. Numerous analysts have stated that practically speaking the differences were not big enough to make the differences too noticeable. PS3 is techinically superior to the 360 and that didn't turn out to be a big deal. Also, X1's cloud will be much better than the PS4 one....dedicated servers for all online games is just icing on the cake..while it won't make up for the raw power differences, it may allow a lot of cool things to happen on the X1 that cannot be done on the PS4. 

Alucard_Prime

What good are dedicated servers when you can't find anyone else online to play with? :|

I find it somewhat amusing that the question is even posed. The Consoles are even closer in terms of power than they were with the PS3/360.

Puckhog04

The difference in power is equivalent to 3.5 xbox 360s. So how are they closer than the PS3 and xbox 360?

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

I find it somewhat amusing that the question is even posed. The Consoles are even closer in terms of power than they were with the PS3/360.

CallOfDutyRulez

The difference in power is equivalent to 3.5 xbox 360s. So how are they closer than the PS3 and xbox 360?

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

I find it somewhat amusing that the question is even posed. The Consoles are even closer in terms of power than they were with the PS3/360.

CallOfDutyRulez

The difference in power is equivalent to 3.5 xbox 360s. So how are they closer than the PS3 and xbox 360?

Both have 8GB's of Ram and both have 8 core CPU's.

You tell me how that amounts to a "huge differece"...

I'm seriously curious. Because I look up the specs (again...) and that's what I get for both. Only difference is the DDR5 and DDR3 for the most part.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

I find it somewhat amusing that the question is even posed. The Consoles are even closer in terms of power than they were with the PS3/360.

Puckhog04

The difference in power is equivalent to 3.5 xbox 360s. So how are they closer than the PS3 and xbox 360?

Both have 8GB's of Ram and both have 8 core CPU's.

You tell me how that amounts to a "huge differece"...

If power wasn't important, then the PS2 would be at 300 million sales right now and no 3rd party would be making games for the PS3 and 360.

The difference with next gen is that the most powerful console is not the most expensive console. That's what's going to make the PS4 so appealing.

CallOfDutyRulez

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

I find it somewhat amusing that the question is even posed. The Consoles are even closer in terms of power than they were with the PS3/360.

Puckhog04

The difference in power is equivalent to 3.5 xbox 360s. So how are they closer than the PS3 and xbox 360?

Both have 8GB's of Ram and both have 8 core CPU's.

You tell me how that amounts to a "huge differece"...

I was talking about the GPUs alone. If we consider RAM and CPU, the difference gets even bigger.

1) Ram:

The PS4 has 8 GB of GDDR5 RAM with a peak performance of 176 GB/s across the entire 8 GB of memory.

The xbox ONE has 8 GB of DDR3 RAM with a peak performance of only 68 GB/s. The xbox ONE also has 32 mb of eSRAM with a performance of 190 GB/s for ONLY 32 mb of memory. 

2) CPU:

It has been confirmed by Microsoft that 2 cores of the 8-core Jaguar CPU will be used for OS operations. Insiders from neogaf have confirmed that the CPU will be clocked at 1.6 Ghz.

The PS4's CPU will probably take up a quarter of a core. Rumors from neogaf point the clockspeed at 1.8 - 2.0 Ghz.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

If power wasn't important, then the PS2 would be at 300 million sales right now and no 3rd party would be making games for the PS3 and 360.

The difference with next gen is that the most powerful console is not the most expensive console. That's what's going to make the PS4 so appealing.

2ndWonder

So why is the Wii U selling like crap?

There are many factors that influence sales, and power is a big factor along with price point. The Wii had a novel feature that attracted the soccer moms and casuals.

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

The difference in power is equivalent to 3.5 xbox 360s. So how are they closer than the PS3 and xbox 360?

Kaz_Son

Both have 8GB's of Ram and both have 8 core CPU's.

You tell me how that amounts to a "huge differece"...

So basically the real advantage is the GPU. Fair enough, I already knew it was powerful. I was just curious. I didn't hear about either of the GPU's.

[QUOTE="2ndWonder"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

If power wasn't important, then the PS2 would be at 300 million sales right now and no 3rd party would be making games for the PS3 and 360.

The difference with next gen is that the most powerful console is not the most expensive console. That's what's going to make the PS4 so appealing.

CallOfDutyRulez

So why is the Wii U selling like crap?

There are many factors that influence sales, and power is a big factor along with price point. The Wii had a novel feature that attracted the soccer moms and casuals.

Lack of games. When the Wii U's big first party titles start rolling out, sales will pick up.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="2ndWonder"]Not true though, the trend with people these days is if something new comes out, and they are interested in it, then they have to have it. Good example of this (but not related to this convo) is with cell phones. I don't think I need go on about cell phones though. If power is important as SW thinks then why did the Wii outsell both the xbox 360 and ps3? But to answer that, it would take the ps2, assuming people were still interested in it and it was in it's glory days, close to another 10 years, if not more, to sell another 150 million. Well not necessarily true again. The ps3 was the most expensive console this gen. (not accounting for this xbox live stuff/psn stuff, but the model price) According to this forum, it's better than the xbox spec wise and according to this forum, it out sold the xbox.Puckhog04

So why is the Wii U selling like crap?

There are many factors that influence sales, and power is a big factor along with price point. The Wii had a novel feature that attracted the soccer moms and casuals.

Lack of games. When the Wii U's big first party titles start rolling out, sales will pick up.

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

So why is the Wii U selling like crap?

There are many factors that influence sales, and power is a big factor along with price point. The Wii had a novel feature that attracted the soccer moms and casuals.

Murderstyle75

Lack of games. When the Wii U's big first party titles start rolling out, sales will pick up.

PS1 momentum and DVD.

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Lack of games. When the Wii U's big first party titles start rolling out, sales will pick up.

CallOfDutyRulez

PS1 momentum and DVD.

[QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

So why is the Wii U selling like crap?

There are many factors that influence sales, and power is a big factor along with price point. The Wii had a novel feature that attracted the soccer moms and casuals.

Murderstyle75

Lack of games. When the Wii U's big first party titles start rolling out, sales will pick up.

Nintendo consoles rely on first party software, unlike Sony consoles.

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Lack of games. When the Wii U's big first party titles start rolling out, sales will pick up.

Puckhog04

Nintendo consoles rely on first party software, unlike Sony consoles.

[QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] The PS2 had a lack of decent games for about a year. Why didnt anything stop that?Murderstyle75

PS1 momentum and DVD.

Nintendo came pretty much unprepared for the HD-era. There was an article not to long ago about one of the Nintendo execs (I think it was the CEO himself) saying that it takes more than twice their current man-power to make 720p games.

It's utterly mind-boggling how they haven't prepared for HD game development... They had 6 years with the Wii and NDS making money hand over fist for them.

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="Puckhog04"]

Lack of games. When the Wii U's big first party titles start rolling out, sales will pick up.

Puckhog04

Nintendo consoles rely on first party software, unlike Sony consoles.

[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="CallOfDutyRulez"]

PS1 momentum and DVD.

CallOfDutyRulez

Nintendo came pretty much unprepared for the HD-era. There was an article not to long ago about one of the Nintendo execs (I think it was the CEO himself) saying that it takes more than twice their current man-power to make 720p games.

It's utterly mind-boggling how they haven't prepared for HD game development... They had 6 years with the Wii and NDS making money hand over fist for them.