G2A listed men and girls games saparetely

@thepclovingguy said:

So you wanna base things on presumption and stereotypes. So do you want men who are falsely accused of rape to be declared guilty without a fair trial since the majority of rape claims turn out to be true. Sorry, but your logic is flawed.

@Ryan_Som said:

@pyratrum said:

@iandizion713 said:

@kod: They still don't really know, theyre just guessing. They target advertising to try and dictate your purchases.

Actually, they do know. There's scientific research on this kind of stuff:

http://usabilitynews.org/video-games-males-prefer-violence-while-females-prefer-social/

Actually, what I gather from that poll is that women who game split their interests fairly evenly between violent and non-violent games, whereas men overwhelming prefer violent games. Why so angry, gents? :P

AH YES.. Because MARKETING studies in suggestive sales in which demographics prefer some how has ANYTHING to do with that.. Holy shit we might as well just have a genderless mannequin in all commercials to assure we don't upset your delicate sensibilities. We will also use a genderless pronoun too, just in case that triggers you.

You are the one who started talking about children, not me.

I am pointing out your hypocrisy.. Ads like this happen all the time, if your this bent of shape by a ad.. It says more about yourself as a person than anything coming close to this trivial ad. You seem not to understand the concept of marketing.. THey are not there to instil some kind of social engineering, but targeting a demographic to BUY THEIR PRODUCT.. Their sole goal is to make MONEY.

Of course its their goal to make money, but that doesn't stop customers from boycotting their products, bad marketing can cause the loss of many customers. And most companies are usually cowards, if you complain enough they will end up removing the ad in question, which has happened many times already. Also, complaining about a product doesn't some turn me into a sjw.

@thepclovingguy: It most CERTAINLY DOES if you flip out about trivial bullshit like this.. Acting like the ad was specifically telling you that men can only play this, women can only play this.. This is exactly what SJW's do they blow up about trivial bullshit, misconstruing the entire purpose of the ad to begin with, turning it into some kind of gigantic attack on your views.. Your reaction of this trivial ad, says more about you than anything coming close to the purpose of the creators set out for..

Of all the things to be mad at G2A for, this comes very low on the list.

When that website dies the world will be a better place.

G2A is a shatty company, you have to watch out with companies like them. Id never buy anything from them because they suck and have low standards.

No. its only means that the ad isn't working as intended as it instead of attracting new customers causes remaining customers to express their disappointment over the company. It has nothing to do with being an sjw. You don't need to be sjw to feel insulted. For example if some says **** you to you and you don't appreciate gesture, doesn't somehow turn you into a sjw, just because you perceive the "**** you" negatively. I can be upset about things without being a self centered egotistical liberal feminist. I also don't think we should forbid "hate" speech unlike sjws, but we should at least be able to disapprove of it.

TRIGGERED !!! In the girl section there is no kitchen simulator !

This thread not yet locked? What does this has to do with System Wars?

I dislike the term "sjw" but i highly disagree. If you take offense to this, to a small section of ad that is designed to help family members shop for other family members when they may not know exactly what that person wants, then you're one of those people who needs to take offense to something at all times. And if that is the case and youve reached the point where its things like this and not things in the real world, then we've definitely hit a wall of egotism, self concern, absurdities and a complete willingness to ignore reality.

And as pointed out before the way to really tell is to look at the language used. "Dictating what you buy", "sexist", etc. extreme's that no one has a valid reason to reach. We hit a second tier of stupid when we see what many here have done and that is ignoring the (ill say now proven) fact that companies do this based on very well researched data.

Id also like to point out that this is not simply you taking offense to something. This is you and others actively fighting a company for this ad, with the most ridiculous and absurd claims you can come up with. Its affecting other people. What if an advertiser gets fired for this because of this mentality? Because you and others decide its a good idea to complain about a practice that is well established in science and practiced daily by companies, but this instance, nnoooo this instance is the sand in the vagina and what? We get a person fired who probably has a family and uses that job to feed and house them. You cant use the excuse of "its my right to be offended" when your actions for such a stupid and ridiculous thing are then potentially leading to life altering changes for someone else.
At the end of the day, what would this have accomplished? Nothing. Target, Walmart, KMart, every single retailer in the America will still advertise and divide and label products by the demographics that are most likely going to buy that product.

How are they helping the consumer when theyre dictating by gender? That an outdated primitive way of thinking. Get that bullshat out of here. Yall shouldnt be so easily offended that people want change. Not everyone is like you, some of us are different and want different standards in life.

We want a gender-less society, to free people from the cages that have been placed in by mental slavery.

@thepclovingguy

See.

Language used improperly is one of the banes of youth and/or ignorance.

"Dictating". No one is dictating anything and apparently Ian simply has no idea what that actually means. The reason why its the negative word it is, is because its a forced act where the person its imposed on, does not have a say. Does that describe this at all? No. Not in the least.

"Primitive". Again, another word Ian has a very hard time understanding the meaning and proper use of. He will apply it every chance he gets, but he does not understand its definition and how/why its used.

And of course the word that at this point should be banned from the English language, "offense". This has less to do with proper use of, but how its used and what goes with it. "Offense" is not an argument for anything. You take offense, its not given. Its subjective and different for everyone. So if its used then it needs to be used once and then the position needs to be stated in a proper way and what facts that person can bring into the conversation, they need to do. Instead we tend to see the opposite. We see people use "offense" as the argument and rely on data and facts, less.

Worst part of this is people like Ian and possibly yourself, are so consumed with their own nonsense they only see what they want. He starts off by asking a question answered a dozen times already. He then goes on to pretend like his subjectivity is superior to others without actually giving any real reasons as to why anyone should even take him seriously here, let alone consider his position.

@kod:

Dictate - to say or read (something) aloud for another person to transcribe.

Primitive - relating to, denoting, or preserving the character of an early stage in the evolutionary or historical development of something.

Maybe you shouldnt be so offended by people who want a gender-less socitey. Maybe you should grow up and,

>gets on computer

>sees sales

>sees girls and boys game seperate

>sees selection for girls...decides to browse the boys section for his niece since she likes those types of games

>goes to check .....

>computer explodes

Oh god what have I done.

Yes, you've proven you do a great job at copying and pasting dictionary definitions. Of course you picked the wrong definition unless you're simply a trolling idiot, which fits your argument more than you being serious. But if you're being serious, its just another reason to laugh at you.

@kod: Forgive me if i just laugh you off. You so silly.

Who cares? Women are less inclined to play bloody/violent games anyway.

EDIT: oh this is a secret PC(politically correct) thread.

Again, as a customer I have to right to complain or abstain from buying any future products from the company, it has nothing to do with entitlement or egoism, this is how market works in general. I am not suggesting we should harass them or silence them. They have the right to say whatever they want, but that doesn't mean I need to support them. What's next? Should companies recommend products based on skin colors as well just because black people happened to buy a certain product more than any other demographic?

So again if your concern is with how the market works, then this is not an issue and you'd realize even your last "concern" is regularly practiced... do you think Maybelline advertises their "medium tone ebony toner" to white girls? Do you think they advertise their "white girl ghost face powder" to black girls? Ever seen a cocoa butter ad? Its not advertised to white people. Do you think the next Madea movie is going to be advertised heavier in "urban" areas or "rural" areas? Do you think the next Snoop Dogg album will be advertised on all radio stations or mainly hip-hop and R&B?

Again, if you understand how the market works than you'll understand that all companies are doing is maximizing their limited advertising resources and are doing so with extremely studied and proven purchasing demographics and is them following consumer patterns, not leading or creating patterns.

I will also say there is a high level of egotism and entitlement when these things get taken beyond one simply deciding against spending their money with that company, versus vocalizing it some how, even if its just in conversation. We know how these things go, we've seen this over and over again. 1000 people in a room, 990 of them take no issue to something, 10 stand up being as loud as possible, using often fake and false claims and hyperbolic language, then someone gets fired and something is addressed that does not need to be addressed. Its almost daily at this point. Doing this really defines egotism and entitlement and IMO its not a coincidence it generally comes from children and the well off. The issues we latch on to tend to demonstrate either an understanding a misunderstanding or where you're at on the economic privilege scale (which is the real privileged scale of 21st century America, not so much race or sex anymore. And is why we saw things like Hillary and her supporters latch on to a meme instead of 60% of the population making 30k or less and having less than 1k in savings).

Go ahead and complain, that's your right.. Just don't be surprised if people think you're being a child and a completely foolish... Holy shit, we have gender based ads all the freaking time.. Perfume and facial make up is targeted towards women with ad's... Jewelry is targeted towards predominately women.. This isn't about setting some kind of "standard" or "stereotype" this is about recognizing their fucking biggest consumer base and targeting it... What does this have anything to do with race? Companies do this all around the globe based around age and sex.. I know it's terrifying to realize this, but men and women predominately have different tastes and different interests on average.. Hence why we see these kinds of ads with targeting THROUGH out capitalisms across the world.. No where does this ad suggest the opposite sex or another age group cannot use said product.. Get your head out of your butt, because just about every company on the planet does this if they produce a product with a very clear demographic. And you whining about such trivial bullshit isn't going to do anything outside of completely misconstrue the entire purpose of the ad to begin with.. You are a delicate snowflake. And you have to bring up actual real concerns and issues like rape in comparison of a FREAKING AD on a website solidifies this.. So yet again.. Claim to not be a SJW, act exactly like one, even bring up the typical unrelated talking points.

Oh of course that isn't racist when it excludes white people or men.. Notice the top post was outrage that women were stereotyped here some how, not men... That basically this entire outrage was based around people being pissed on supposedly "telling women that they can't play such and such games".. Which if anything we were going to take the list at face value I would argue the men's list would be the more insulting of the two.. It consisted of predominately extremely violent, shallow action games.. Yet I don't see people like the guy we have been responding to talking about how it's pushing forward the big dumb violent male stereotype..

I don't understand the point of this thread. Don't girls play FPS games?

The point of this thread is outrage of a bunch of delicate snowflakes trying to virtue signal a incredibly common marketing ad that is used through out the capitalist world....

By "the guy" I hope you don't refer me, because I strongly think domestic violence against men is a huge problem in our society, which is sadly ignored both by the elite and established media

See? You are starting again without me instigating you at any point in this thread or any thread.Thats the reason what happened in the other Thread.

My point went completely over your head... And you brought up a completely unrelated topic that has absolutely NOTHING to do with this.. Congrats. I don't care what your view points are on these unrelated topics, this is about the actual ad.. On how if we are going to say this is a ad demanding men and women play these types of games, why is there only outrage for the women side of the stereotype? How about some god damned consistency, if you're going to blow up about a trivial bs ad, why are you attacking it for the supposed view point of only one of the sexes?

rarely. but FPS target audience are males. it doesnot matter if they play or not.

Girls also enjoy FPS games. Few of my freinds enjoys Borderlands, COD very much.

thats not my point. my point was target audience.

plus borderlands and COD are casual games.

I don't make generalisations, sorry. FPS games are for everyone to enjoy, be it males or females.

@sSubZerOo: then why do you keep mentioning it.

Where did I mention such things aside from the response when you brought them out randomly? No where in that response specifically was I talking about that when I said dumb violent male stereotype.. I am pointing out the fact that the list are all aggressive FPS action games where the goal is to kill the other person for the most part.... Yet you only are showing outrage for the female's list of suggestive games.... Why aren't you equally as outraged with men being told to not being able to play Sims, Simulator games in general? So what we have here people is a MAN, who is outraged of a ad that is a suggestive sales ad.. A ad that in no way dictates what a sex should play, but claims it does anyways.. Than as a MAN he is outraged with the women stereotype and feels like something need to be done, while completely ignoring the other side.. I wasn't aware women needed to be defended here and told by you that they can play any game they want..

@sSubZerOo: Then I apoligize. Stereotyping the playing habits of men is equally wrong.

It's just hypocrisy, and this ad is trivial non sense that no one here should get outraged over. There are demographics in all parts of capitalism where a certain sex or age group is interested with a certain thing.. Fifty Shades of Grey, was heavily marketed towards women because they were main demographic.. I don't think this ad stereotypes any one, its a baseless suggestive ad that means absolutely nothing.. If anything I view it as some one who isn't sure what to get some one to get them based upon demographics..

Demographics don't lie.. What are the likelihood your going to buy a male family member of yours a purse compared to a female family member? Hence marketing for said products are going to be predominately if not all female based. In no way does this ad say that a man can't have a purse, same goes for this one.

Not to mention that the fact that the rhetoric in criticism comes off as far more sexist than any kind of suspicions of this ad.. Your basically ignoring an entire sex here.. Which either suggests that you do not care about men, or you think women are too weak minded to some how defend themselves to being supposedly pigeonholed into this stereotype.

Well, I guess I lost the arguments then since I have nothing of value to add. Sometimes we have to admit defeat and this is one of these moments. But it was fun talking to you.

It takes a lot of guts to say that in a argument. Sorry if things got heated, and I hope you have a good day.

@indzman: its no generaluzation. Its target audience. Barbie and cinderella target audience are girls. Similarly guys are target audience of FPS games.

When it comes down to video games gamer girls enjoy GTA, COD, RPG's as much as any guy. Playing co op action games with b.f's/Hubbies.You posting on forums a long time now, you would understand by now.

I never said they cannot enjoy but they are not target audience for developers. different stock for different folks.

entire JRPG genres are for girls. JRPGs carter to both.

I'm sorry i don't understand what are you really trying to Imply Here.Devs makes games , even FPS games with female audience as well as male audience in mind. As i said games are for anyone to enjoy, more sales for publishers.

Same to you, thanks for being so polite.

Im pretty sure id Software didnot made Doom with female audience in mind. Valve didnot made Half life with female audience in mind. GSC didnot made Stalker with female audience in mind. hack Stalker doesnot even have a single female minor character in game.

what Im trying to say is different stock for different folks

what if some AAA developer decide to make game based on Cinderella? would it be to target male audience? or both? of course not. it would be exclusively for female audience.

Many guys enjoy girl protagonist games you know, Lollipop Chainsaw, Alice in Wonderland, Bayonetta, Remember Me,Resident Evil,Blood Rayne,Tomb Raider ETC.

I think they are overstating the behavioral differences of men and women slightly.

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