Gabe Newell: PS3 "a waste of everybody's time"

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#101 StealthSting
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Someone edited his wikipedia page :lol:

During production on Half-Life 2, he spent several months focusing on the Steam project. Before his now famous Ps3 bashing,the Pig used his millions to purchase a wife and had disgusting pigletts.

Jandurin

:lol: ...

... Oxygen!

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#102 istreakforfood
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Seems the guys in Insomniac or Guerilla have more talent than him.

Hes just worthless,he doesnt even have the level to have a conversation with Ken Kutaragi.

SumerianDaemon

counter strike(pc version) > resistance, killzone

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#103 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="SumerianDaemon"]

Seems the guys in Insomniac or Guerilla have more talent than him.

Hes just worthless,he doesnt even have the level to have a conversation with Ken Kutaragi.

istreakforfood

counter strike(pc version) > resistance, killzone

Newell didn't make CS?
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#104 tango90101
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Someone edited his wikipedia page :lol:

During production on Half-Life 2, he spent several months focusing on the Steam project. Before his now famous Ps3 bashing,the Pig used his millions to purchase a wife and had disgusting pigletts.

Jandurin

i got a dollar that says it was another sony employee....

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#105 G10mgs4
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[QUOTE="G10mgs4"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

the guys is a loser, he cant even make a game on a system wit his team, he shifts the ps3 version to easports. how can a dev be a good dev, if they cant even make games for all systems. if he was so hatred of the ps3, why not make ob for the wii.

he has never mad a game for the ps1, ps2,psp,nor ps3.he used to deving for pc,and the 360.

how would it be so hard to dev fordevelop for, why the heck is konami, insomniac,naughty dog, and others devs, having such a good time on it.

f this loser

tango90101

i defy you to show me ANY quote from ANY of those developers saying they're having a "good time" with the ps3's architecture..

the BEST anyone's said was "it's not too hard"....

but STILL hard...

buy good time i mean making quility games that look really nextgen, then some 4 year old port of a game. new ip's and there not sitting crying about anything. the fool sits there and make pc games, and ounce a real system is put in his face, he cant even make a game on it, he hads it to ea....if that was the case dont even bring the game to the ps3.

you do realize the ps3 is a bluray player FIRST.... right? that's the problem...

even sony said this....

"We've never once called it a game machine" - Ken Kuturagi/Sony...

i have said it ounce and i have said it again, the ps3 is not just a gaimng machine, neither was the ps2, the ps3 has so many other things to it, that you cant just call it a gaming machine, even though thats its primary focus, its not just a gaming machine. look at pc's there not just gaming machines either.

the guy has no class what so ever, he comes from making pc games all his life, now that ps3 is here, he cant even sit his fat ugly self donw and make a game for it, nor even make a game for any ps brand product.hes a whimp. A coward. ONLY A COWARD WOULD SEND THERE GAME AND PROPERTIES TO BE MADE BUY EA. thats how lame he is. a true dev would never even think of doing sush a silly thing. but when ps3 takes over next year in 08, i bet you any money he will start making games for ps3 then. and i hop sony denies him and sticks a ps3 so far up his fat a, that his eyes would read triangle x and circle

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#106 ironcreed
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Amusing. I do not care what type of rep Gabe Newell of Valve has, his statements are nothing more than opinionated diatribes which show his slant towards where he knows that he will make the most money.

He is a PC boy that also happens to be in love with Bill Gate$ and Micro$oft because console wise, he can make games easier and cheaper for the 360, and make more money on a larger installed base. It has nothing to do with the PS3 being a "mistake", lol. It is just more expensive and more complex to develop on, in which case, it takes a bit more time and money. Therefore, he cannot stand it.

Afterall, there are plenty of other devs who seem to think that the PS3 will be just fine and has loads of growing room for the next few years, yet Gabe Newell says otherwise, lol. So what, he gave us Half Life, which is a great shooter. But don't you think that Half Life 3 should have been out by now, instead of Valve milking a nearly 3 year old game?

Money, cheap and easy development is all Gabe Newell obviously cares about, not embracing the challenge of new technology in order to try and push the limits of gaming. Too much money and effort involved for his liking when it comes to the PS3. Half Life 2 was/is good, but it is not God. Time to move on, Gabe ole' boy. Maybe you can cash in on the Wii as well, beings that ease of development and money are your blatantly obvious motivating factors here.

It seems to me that if he needed EA to do a port of a 2 1/2 year old game because he did not want to mess with the PS3, that maybe he is the one with the problem....not the PS3 itself. Yet within the midst of his diatribe against Sony and the PS3, he still manages to find time to plug the PS3 version of The Orange Box, saying that "PS3 owners will still find a great experience with the Orange Box....but it will never be as good as the PC and 360 version."

Sorry, Gabe, money hungry, Microsoft boot licking, lazy devs FTL. You can keep your Orange Box, I no longer care to purchase it, despite my interest in Portal. However, if you ever find the time to finally release Half Life 3 after you are done milking Half Life 2 to death, I may just show a bit of interest. As of now though, you, as well as Valve have lost the respect of a now former fan.

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#107 Tnasty11
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[QUOTE="G10mgs4"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

the guys is a loser, he cant even make a game on a system wit his team, he shifts the ps3 version to easports. how can a dev be a good dev, if they cant even make games for all systems. if he was so hatred of the ps3, why not make ob for the wii.

he has never mad a game for the ps1, ps2,psp,nor ps3.he used to deving for pc,and the 360.

how would it be so hard to dev fordevelop for, why the heck is konami, insomniac,naughty dog, and others devs, having such a good time on it.

f this loser

tango90101

i defy you to show me ANY quote from ANY of those developers saying they're having a "good time" with the ps3's architecture..

the BEST anyone's said was "it's not too hard"....

but STILL hard...

buy good time i mean making quility games that look really nextgen, then some 4 year old port of a game. new ip's and there not sitting crying about anything. the fool sits there and make pc games, and ounce a real system is put in his face, he cant even make a game on it, he hads it to ea....if that was the case dont even bring the game to the ps3.

you do realize the ps3 is a bluray player FIRST.... right? that's the problem...

even sony said this....

"We've never once called it a game machine" - Ken Kuturagi/Sony...

Kaz Says: The PS3 Is a Game Machine. Period/ Sony http://kotaku.com/gaming/giant-kaz-face-says/the-ps3-is-a-game-machine-period-297344.php
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#108 Darth_DuMas
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[QUOTE="LEGEND_C4A"][QUOTE="Ontain"]

[QUOTE="Ragashahs"]they guy loves PC's and hates consoles not surprsing. epic seems to like PS3.Ontain

epic likes the ps3 because they get to license their engine for it. that's were they are going to make a lot of money.

aren't they in court because epics engine doesn't work properly on the PS3? or is it another engine? all I know is there is a problem with some engine, which could explain delays for some games. someone help me here!

yes. allegedly they took the money from the license to make there own games without providing the service and updates that were required.

I think they are also in court with Too Human developer Silicon Knights, because the Engine is causing delays, or am I talking about something else? I might be wrong here.

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#109 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="SumerianDaemon"]

Seems the guys in Insomniac or Guerilla have more talent than him.

Hes just worthless,he doesnt even have the level to have a conversation with Ken Kutaragi.

Vandalvideo

counter strike(pc version) > resistance, killzone

Newell didn't make CS?

Minh Le aka Gooseman developed CS on his own then sold it to Valve/Sierra.

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#110 istreakforfood
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[QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="SumerianDaemon"]

Seems the guys in Insomniac or Guerilla have more talent than him.

Hes just worthless,he doesnt even have the level to have a conversation with Ken Kutaragi.

Vandalvideo

counter strike(pc version) > resistance, killzone

Newell didn't make CS?

no but its a valve game

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#111 Vandalvideo
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no but its a valve gameistreakforfood
Only after they bought it out. They didn't develop it and it doesn't show their talents.
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#112 G10mgs4
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="SumerianDaemon"]

Seems the guys in Insomniac or Guerilla have more talent than him.

Hes just worthless,he doesnt even have the level to have a conversation with Ken Kutaragi.

istreakforfood

counter strike(pc version) > resistance, killzone

Newell didn't make CS?

no but its a valve game

gabe had nothing to do with that game. he was too busy delaying hl2 to be doing anything eles

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#113 kulmiye
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Wow how uninteresting.... I shall buy a PS3 thank you very much Mr Newell.
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#114 rarsi123
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Newell recently announced he was a di**
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#115 SecretPolice
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He seems to be verbalizing what many devs are thinking these days.

To try and deny the shortcomings the PS3 has is to ignore the obvious low demand, lower scoring games the system has to offer along with delayed high profile games! - atm.

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#116 Nathan_Drake
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EA and now Valve have both insulted the PS3. They both do nothing but develop multiplatform titles to share with the 360 and PC for the PS3. Neither one of them to this point in time have done anything exclusive for the PS3. Their opinions are based only on their experience trying to port titles to the console.

Maybe if they started from scratch it wouldn't be such a big deal?

Tecmo, Ubisoft, Square-Enix....these are just a few of the names developing PS3 exclusives that have enjoyed the console. Didn't Ubisoft and Free Radical give EA a good slap to the face not too long after EA's Madden 08 PS3 issues. Didn't Square-Enix call the PS3 the "key to their dreams" earlier in the year and praised the console's capabilities?

Just cause a lazy developer doesn't take the time or invest the money to actually figure out the differences between PS3 development and 360/PC development doesn't mean they should have the right to just come out and thrash the console for their own inability to get the job done.

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#117 Darth_DuMas
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Newell recently announced he was a di**rarsi123

TEH LINK???

Jokes :D

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EA and now Valve have both insulted the PS3. They both do nothing but develop multiplatform titles to share with the 360 and PC for the PS3. Neither one of them to this point in time have done anything exclusive for the PS3. Their opinions are based only on their experience trying to port titles to the console.

Maybe if they started from scratch it wouldn't be such a big deal?

Tecmo, Ubisoft, Square-Enix....these are just a few of the names developing PS3 exclusives that have enjoyed the console. Didn't Ubisoft and Free Radical give EA a good slap to the face not too long after EA's Madden 08 PS3 issues. Didn't Square-Enix call the PS3 the "key to their dreams" earlier in the year and praised the console's capabilities?

Just cause a lazy developer doesn't take the time or invest the money to actually figure out the differences between PS3 development and 360/PC development doesn't mean they should have the right to just come out and thrash the console for their own inability to get the job done.

Nathan_Drake

Well, it's not much of a compliment to be lumping Valve with EA. EA can't even be bothered to pay their own employees for their work. SO it's no surprise EA would complain if a console was a little harder to cost more money to develop for.

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#119 rarsi123
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Forget the ps3 being a waste of time, gabe is a waste of space, and a whole lot of it.

In the year i have been roaming around here, i can genuinely say that today is the first time i have acted like such a fanboy troll

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#120 Nathan_Drake
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[QUOTE="Nathan_Drake"]

EA and now Valve have both insulted the PS3. They both do nothing but develop multiplatform titles to share with the 360 and PC for the PS3. Neither one of them to this point in time have done anything exclusive for the PS3. Their opinions are based only on their experience trying to port titles to the console.

Maybe if they started from scratch it wouldn't be such a big deal?

Tecmo, Ubisoft, Square-Enix....these are just a few of the names developing PS3 exclusives that have enjoyed the console. Didn't Ubisoft and Free Radical give EA a good slap to the face not too long after EA's Madden 08 PS3 issues. Didn't Square-Enix call the PS3 the "key to their dreams" earlier in the year and praised the console's capabilities?

Just cause a lazy developer doesn't take the time or invest the money to actually figure out the differences between PS3 development and 360/PC development doesn't mean they should have the right to just come out and thrash the console for their own inability to get the job done.

ZIMdoom

Well, it's not much of a compliment to be lumping Valve with EA. EA can't even be bothered to pay their own employees for their work. SO it's no surprise EA would complain if a console was a little harder to cost more money to develop for.

Trust me when I say that was no compliment. :evil:

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#121 istreakforfood
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[QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="istreakforfood"][QUOTE="SumerianDaemon"]

Seems the guys in Insomniac or Guerilla have more talent than him.

Hes just worthless,he doesnt even have the level to have a conversation with Ken Kutaragi.

G10mgs4

counter strike(pc version) > resistance, killzone

Newell didn't make CS?

no but its a valve game

gabe had nothing to do with that game. he was too busy delaying hl2 to be doing anything eles

why would you care? arent you use to the waiting?

at least hl2 was an AAA game unlike the ps3 exclusive games out right now. hl2 was a good game.

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#122 rarsi123
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He seems to be verbalizing what many devs are thinking these days.

To try and deny the shortcomings the PS3 has is to ignore the obvious low demand, lower scoring games the system has to offer along with delayed high profile games! - atm.

SecretPolice

i) The 'low demand' is a result of Sony pricing it out of their fanbase - pretty stupid, but in no way indicative of any shortcomings of the hardware.

ii) Not all games scored lower than their 360 counterpart, or were delayed, eg the darkness, upcoming cod4, conan, and a whole bunch of new games coming out. This indicates that the problems with the ps3 are being solved, and inferior ports will soon be a thing of the past.

iii) The fact that some games are absolutely identical on both platforms indicates that inferior ports are due to less time and experience with the hardware aswell as it being harder to develop for in the first place, combined with developers not willing/having the time to learn the hardware properly

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#123 MadExponent
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EA and now Valve have both insulted the PS3. They both do nothing but develop multiplatform titles to share with the 360 and PC for the PS3. Neither one of them to this point in time have done anything exclusive for the PS3. Their opinions are based only on their experience trying to port titles to the console.

Maybe if they started from scratch it wouldn't be such a big deal?

Tecmo, Ubisoft, Square-Enix....these are just a few of the names developing PS3 exclusives that have enjoyed the console. Didn't Ubisoft and Free Radical give EA a good slap to the face not too long after EA's Madden 08 PS3 issues. Didn't Square-Enix call the PS3 the "key to their dreams" earlier in the year and praised the console's capabilities?

Just cause a lazy developer doesn't take the time or invest the money to actually figure out the differences between PS3 development and 360/PC development doesn't mean they should have the right to just come out and thrash the console for their own inability to get the job done.

Nathan_Drake

All said companies have a vested interest in Sony and the PS3. They will praise the sinking ship until Leonardo DiCaprio freezes to death.

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#124 rarsi123
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[QUOTE="rarsi123"]Newell recently announced he was a di**Darth_DuMas

TEH LINK???

Jokes :D

Just google it, lol!!

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#125 espoac
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I think this has more to do with Valve's inabililty to develop anything good on any platform that isn't a PC or a console with PC-like architecture(XBOX360). Infinity Ward, by the way shows that they can make not only good games in their comfort zone but are versatile enough to bring that same experience to PS3, a platform who's architecture they aren't familiar with. Valve needs to just stop making excuses.
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#126 Ontain
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Someone edited his wikipedia page :lol:

During production on Half-Life 2, he spent several months focusing on the Steam project. Before his now famous Ps3 bashing,the Pig used his millions to purchase a wife and had disgusting pigletts.

Jandurin

it's already gone. wiki corrects pretty fast.

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#127 excelR83
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HAHAHA! I love how he slams the PS3, then makes a sales pitch for the PS3 version of the Orange Box. F*** YOU GABE, you've just convinced me to steal your game, and play it on the PC.

This guy hates consoles, I don't see what the surprise is here. It's not like he has any choice but to put all of his games on MS platforms, there's no way he would badmouth them. Estimates of a 30% failure rate must mean good things to him.
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#128 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

f gabe newel he has never made any ps brand games in his life. he makes games for geeky nerds you have pc and 360. stop crying about how hard somthing is to make, jus make it. his a whimp a slob, a failure at life.

i bet any money i make more money then he does.

G10mgs4

a legend in the industry is a "failure at life"...?

just. wow... :roll:

pardon me, sir...your fanboy is showing....

a legend at what...this guy is no kojima, no miyamoto

he is a guy who delayed a first person shooter game, the easiest gener of games to make, for 3 f'n years. he is a fat ahole. how the heck can you come out and say stuff about a system you havent even devd one game on, yet people like naughty dog, have done a waaaaaaay more superior game on the ps3. all his team did was go back and port a ghold reharshed game from the ps2 era, and put on the next gen system. f him hes no legend hes a loser

jesus christ! he must have really hurt your feelings man. calm down. I don't agree with all this bashing going on this generation, but he knows what he is doing and knows a lot more than you and I. so I just take it for what it is and move on, why get so mad about it?

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#129 MadExponent
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I think this has more to do with Valve's inabililty to develop anything good on any platform that isn't a PC or a console with PC-like architecture(XBOX360). Infinity Ward, by the way shows that they can make not only good games in their comfort zone but are versatile enough to bring that same experience to PS3, a platform who's architecture they aren't familiar with. Valve needs to just stop making excuses.espoac

LOL if only that was the reality. The reality is that Sony released a "super computer game console" that is really inefficient and full of programming obstacles. You can't make the PS3 something it's not. Valve are the kings of optimization. Half-Life 2 is not a very demanding game. If PS3 can't run HL2 well without sacrificing visuals then there is something wrong with the PS3 not the developer. Sony made ENORMOUS mistakes in preparing developers and giving devs the tools they need to write code for the cell. Perhaps once Sony gets on the ball with the right developers they will be able to work some magic, but in all honesty there should not have to be any "magic" for a game to play great on a new console.

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#130 Kahuna_1
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Did this guy ever actually make a game for a Playstation platform? I am just wondering because like Bioware, if you never try it, dont insult it..

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#131 espoac
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I think all the KFC's gone to his head. That or he just wants attention, seeing that it's been 3 years since HL2 came out.
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#132 LEGEND_C4A
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Gabe Newell is an obese d**k. To the best of my knowledge, he has never developed for any playstation brand, and has no intention of doing so either, so he should just keep his fanboy comments to himself and f*** **f.

PS3 version of orange box will inevitably be messed up, probably more than usual. Hopefully, now that most developers have some experience with the ps3, future multiplats will look the same on both platforms. Hell, if the darkness was able to manage it months ago, it shouldn't be much of a problem next year.

I was probably going to get orange box on 360, but gabe being such a d**k has put me off. Nevertheless i realize missing out on a great game because the developer is a d**k is a bit stupid, so i probably will get it someday, but i really dont want any of my money ending up in his already fat pockets

rarsi123

come on dude, be the bigger man and get the damn game. christ don't let some guy hurt your feelings and then not buy something because of it. if it was like that, all the bullshi** that Microsoft, Nintendo and Sony feed us sometimes we shouldn't buy any system.

just let it go man, its not worth it.

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#133 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

...

G10mgs4

i have said it ounce and i have said it again, the ps3 is not just a gaimng machine, neither was the ps2, the ps3 has so many other things to it, that you cant just call it a gaming machine, even though thats its primary focus, its not just a gaming machine. look at pc's there not just gaming machines either.

the guy has no class what so ever, he comes from making pc games all his life, now that ps3 is here, he cant even sit his fat ugly self donw and make a game for it, nor even make a game for any ps brand product.hes a whimp. A coward. ONLY A COWARD WOULD SEND THERE GAME AND PROPERTIES TO BE MADE BUY EA. thats how lame he is. a true dev would never even think of doing sush a silly thing. but when ps3 takes over next year in 08, i bet you any money he will start making games for ps3 then. and i hop sony denies him and sticks a ps3 so far up his fat a, that his eyes would read triangle x and circle

I think it's pretty telling that your only rebuttal is personal insults directed at Gabe....

you have nothing of substance to discount his statements

the ps2 as marketted as a gaming machine FIRST...whereas the ps3 isn't....

until you have the same experience in creating games that he has, i'm certain the industry will take his word over your anyday.

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#134 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="G10mgs4"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

the guys is a loser, he cant even make a game on a system wit his team, he shifts the ps3 version to easports. how can a dev be a good dev, if they cant even make games for all systems. if he was so hatred of the ps3, why not make ob for the wii.

he has never mad a game for the ps1, ps2,psp,nor ps3.he used to deving for pc,and the 360.

how would it be so hard to dev fordevelop for, why the heck is konami, insomniac,naughty dog, and others devs, having such a good time on it.

f this loser

tango90101

i defy you to show me ANY quote from ANY of those developers saying they're having a "good time" with the ps3's architecture..

the BEST anyone's said was "it's not too hard"....

but STILL hard...

buy good time i mean making quility games that look really nextgen, then some 4 year old port of a game. new ip's and there not sitting crying about anything. the fool sits there and make pc games, and ounce a real system is put in his face, he cant even make a game on it, he hads it to ea....if that was the case dont even bring the game to the ps3.

you do realize the ps3 is a bluray player FIRST.... right? that's the problem...

even sony said this....

"We've never once called it a game machine" - Ken Kuturagi/Sony...

didn't they call it a super-computer or something silly like that?

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#135 tango90101
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

the guys is a loser, he cant even make a game on a system wit his team, he shifts the ps3 version to easports. how can a dev be a good dev, if they cant even make games for all systems. if he was so hatred of the ps3, why not make ob for the wii.

he has never mad a game for the ps1, ps2,psp,nor ps3.he used to deving for pc,and the 360.

how would it be so hard to dev fordevelop for, why the heck is konami, insomniac,naughty dog, and others devs, having such a good time on it.

f this loser

LEGEND_C4A

i defy you to show me ANY quote from ANY of those developers saying they're having a "good time" with the ps3's architecture..

the BEST anyone's said was "it's not too hard"....

but STILL hard...

buy good time i mean making quility games that look really nextgen, then some 4 year old port of a game. new ip's and there not sitting crying about anything. the fool sits there and make pc games, and ounce a real system is put in his face, he cant even make a game on it, he hads it to ea....if that was the case dont even bring the game to the ps3.

you do realize the ps3 is a bluray player FIRST.... right? that's the problem...

even sony said this....

"We've never once called it a game machine" - Ken Kuturagi/Sony...

didn't they call it a super-computer or something silly like that?

yep... EXTREMELY silly, if you ask me...

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#136 Pimpshigity21
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=173540Pablo_Aimar

LMFAO

Owned again, Cows. :lol:

Just stop wasting your time and buy a 360 already.

Pretty soon, owning a PS3 will be a reason to be picked on by your peers in school. You don't want that, do you? :o

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#137 G10mgs4
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why anyone would take a guy like this.......

serious is beyond me

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#138 espoac
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[QUOTE="espoac"]I think this has more to do with Valve's inabililty to develop anything good on any platform that isn't a PC or a console with PC-like architecture(XBOX360). Infinity Ward, by the way shows that they can make not only good games in their comfort zone but are versatile enough to bring that same experience to PS3, a platform who's architecture they aren't familiar with. Valve needs to just stop making excuses.MadExponent

LOL if only that was the reality. The reality is that Sony released a "super computer game console" that is really inefficient and full of programming obstacles. You can't make the PS3 something it's not. Valve are the kings of optimization. Half-Life 2 is not a very demanding game. If PS3 can't run HL2 well without sacrificing visuals then there is something wrong with the PS3 not the developer. Sony made ENORMOUS mistakes in preparing developers and giving devs the tools they need to write code for the cell. Perhaps once Sony gets on the ball with the right developers they will be able to work some magic, but in all honesty there should not have to be any "magic" for a game to play great on a new console.

Valve are the kings of optimization, without a doubt, ON PCs. You're right HL2 isn't a demanding game, so why should it run badly on PS3?. Especially when you see Uncharted, R&C:FTOD, COD4 or UT3, all games which graphically blow anything in the Orange Box out of the water. Why is it that the developers of those games can get amazing results out of the PS3 but not Valve?
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#139 LEGEND_C4A
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

the guys is a loser, he cant even make a game on a system wit his team, he shifts the ps3 version to easports. how can a dev be a good dev, if they cant even make games for all systems. if he was so hatred of the ps3, why not make ob for the wii.

he has never mad a game for the ps1, ps2,psp,nor ps3.he used to deving for pc,and the 360.

how would it be so hard to dev fordevelop for, why the heck is konami, insomniac,naughty dog, and others devs, having such a good time on it.

f this loser

G10mgs4

i defy you to show me ANY quote from ANY of those developers saying they're having a "good time" with the ps3's architecture..

the BEST anyone's said was "it's not too hard"....

but STILL hard...

buy good time i mean making quility games that look really nextgen, then some 4 year old port of a game. new ip's and there not sitting crying about anything. the fool sits there and make pc games, and ounce a real system is put in his face, he cant even make a game on it, he hads it to ea....if that was the case dont even bring the game to the ps3.

you do realize the ps3 is a bluray player FIRST.... right? that's the problem...

even sony said this....

"We've never once called it a game machine" - Ken Kuturagi/Sony...

i have said it ounce and i have said it again, the ps3 is not just a gaimng machine, neither was the ps2, the ps3 has so many other things to it, that you cant just call it a gaming machine, even though thats its primary focus, its not just a gaming machine. look at pc's there not just gaming machines either.

the guy has no class what so ever, he comes from making pc games all his life, now that ps3 is here, he cant even sit his fat ugly self donw and make a game for it, nor even make a game for any ps brand product.hes a whimp. A coward. ONLY A COWARD WOULD SEND THERE GAME AND PROPERTIES TO BE MADE BUY EA. thats how lame he is. a true dev would never even think of doing sush a silly thing. but when ps3 takes over next year in 08, i bet you any money he will start making games for ps3 then. and i hop sony denies him and sticks a ps3 so far up his fat a, that his eyes would read triangle x and circle

not for nothing dude, but you can't say someone has no class when you are speaking like a 11 year old in a school playground calling him names and such.

I'm sorry my friend, but you have no class, cause you should be the bigger man and move on and not cry about a guy speaking about a videogame system.

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#140 G10mgs4
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[QUOTE="G10mgs4"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

...

tango90101

i have said it ounce and i have said it again, the ps3 is not just a gaimng machine, neither was the ps2, the ps3 has so many other things to it, that you cant just call it a gaming machine, even though thats its primary focus, its not just a gaming machine. look at pc's there not just gaming machines either.

the guy has no class what so ever, he comes from making pc games all his life, now that ps3 is here, he cant even sit his fat ugly self donw and make a game for it, nor even make a game for any ps brand product.hes a whimp. A coward. ONLY A COWARD WOULD SEND THERE GAME AND PROPERTIES TO BE MADE BUY EA. thats how lame he is. a true dev would never even think of doing sush a silly thing. but when ps3 takes over next year in 08, i bet you any money he will start making games for ps3 then. and i hop sony denies him and sticks a ps3 so far up his fat a, that his eyes would read triangle x and circle

I think it's pretty telling that your only rebuttal is personal insults directed at Gabe....

you have nothing of substance to discount his statements

the ps2 as marketted as a gaming machine FIRST...whereas the ps3 isn't....

until you have the same experience in creating games that he has, i'm certain the industry will take his word over your anyday.

ps2 was marked as a computer entertainment system, it was not jus a video gamwe system

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#141 tango90101
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why anyone would take a guy like this.......

serious is beyond me

G10mgs4

post a pic of yourself...

let's see if we can take YOU seriously by your pic...

btw; when you're reduced to personal insults, you've lost the debate... move on...;)

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#142 Nugtoka
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It sounds like PS3 is getting a GIMPED Orange Box. That's such a shame, first a two month delay, then after their long wait, they get a crappy port. Such a shame. SecretNuAccount

Games that are Late and Gimped this is what PS3 owners have to look forward to. Oh and about 20 hours of worthless MGS Japudrama cutscenes :lol:

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#143 LEGEND_C4A
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HAHAHA! I love how he slams the PS3, then makes a sales pitch for the PS3 version of the Orange Box. F*** YOU GABE, you've just convinced me to steal your game, and play it on the PC.

This guy hates consoles, I don't see what the surprise is here. It's not like he has any choice but to put all of his games on MS platforms, there's no way he would badmouth them. Estimates of a 30% failure rate must mean good things to him. excelR83

he might hate the system, but he's not stupid enough not to try and make money from it.

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#144 Pimpshigity21
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Then if it is such a waste why bother releasing games for it? @_@PelekotansDream

Because they know Cows are so bored that they will buy anything. Heck, they even bought Lair. Talk about being bored to death.:P

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#145 marklarmer
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[QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

why anyone would take a guy like this.......

serious is beyond me

tango90101

post a pic of yourself...

let's see if we can take YOU seriously by your pic...

btw; when you're reduced to personal insults, you've lost the debate... move on...;)

i almost made this exact same post, but pathetic attacks dont even deserve a response unless its to make an example of them.

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#146 Xeratule
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To the cows hating on this dev:

Orange Box = 9.5

Therefore, this guy's opinion matters.

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#147 Eltroz
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WoW look how mad and upset some of the PS3 users are getting because a developer said something about a console they own. I swear some people need to take a break from games because they are getting to attached to it.
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#148 Viviath
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[QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="G10mgs4"]

why anyone would take a guy like this.......

serious is beyond me

marklarmer

post a pic of yourself...

let's see if we can take YOU seriously by your pic...

btw; when you're reduced to personal insults, you've lost the debate... move on...;)

i almost made this exact same post, but pathetic attacks dont even deserve a response unless its to make an example of them.

i agree with u guys, but he doesnt kind of look like a joke :p

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#149 LEGEND_C4A
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WoW look how mad and upset some of the PS3 users are getting because a developer said something about a console they own. I swear some people need to take a break from games because they are getting to attached to it. Eltroz

if he would have insulted the 360 or Wii, these same guys insulting him would have been wet with glee!

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#150 mingo123
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they guy loves PC's and hates consoles not surprsing. epic seems to like PS3.Ragashahs

1. Epic is paid by Sony for UE3 to run better on ps3(and the exclusivity stuff)
2. Mark Rein keeps changing his opinions every second, talk about gears of war and he'll say 360 is the best, talk about UT3 and he'll say there is nothing like Ps3, he just changes his opinions to whatever he likes