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If S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 doesn't come out this year then I think we have shooter of the year folks, and just for fun, lets guess system requirements.

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I don't even want to think how mainstream they are going to make STALKER 2. I hope I am wrong, but it going multiplatform scares the **** out of me.

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[QUOTE="breakinglaws"]

If S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 doesn't come out this year then I think we have shooter of the year folks, and just for fun, lets guess system requirements.

millerlight89

I don't even want to think how mainstream they are going to make STALKER 2. I hope I am wrong, but it going multiplatform scares the **** out of me.

Ever played Metro on 360? I expect it to be even more in favor of the PC version with STALKER.

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#103 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"]

[QUOTE="breakinglaws"]

If S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 doesn't come out this year then I think we have shooter of the year folks, and just for fun, lets guess system requirements.

I don't even want to think how mainstream they are going to make STALKER 2. I hope I am wrong, but it going multiplatform scares the **** out of me.

Ever played Metro on 360? I expect it to be even more in favor of the PC version with STALKER.

Not on the 360 I haven't. I'm not really worried about the tech side of the game, but the core gameplay elements. I just don't see the old formula being popular with the console crowd.
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#104 sergemyster8
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OMG, Can't wait for this.
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#105 EliteM0nk3y
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As long as the console versions have jets, I'm good.

I don't care a whole lot about 64 players. Played Frontline with 50 players and just didn't "feel" right. Felt like I was some random guy who was just another face in the crowd.

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#106 psn8214
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Not on the 360 I haven't. I'm not really worried about the tech side of the game, but the core gameplay elements. I just don't see the old formula being popular with the console crowd. millerlight89

GSC has never been a compromising developer. What's to change? Nothing in STALKER was impossible on consoles gameplay-wise, so I have yet high hopes for 2.

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#107 The_Capitalist
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This game sounds like it's going to put my old rig through its paces.

I need to upgrade.

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#108 PSdual_wielder
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PC version for sure.

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#109 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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I hOpe they do a good job on consoles too, though. I know that bf is best on pc but the way they act it's like they forget they have battlefield fans on consoles anticipating the game too. It isn't fair when consoles have less features, an inferior version, all for a higher price than pc. It seems to me like consoles are an afterthought. I believed DICE wouldnt let the console version be bad but with all this info it seems pc will get an amazing version while consoles get the bad, poorly detailed version. Obviously I'm not asking for 64 players or pc graphics, I just want a sign from DICE that we aren't forgotten and that the console crowd aren't idiots who get everything stripped away from them for a higher cost. At least show us your supporting us too, cause ever since BF3 was announced, it's been all about pc and what isn't on consoles.
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#110 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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I just love that cover, it looks so stylish.

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#111 dkdk999
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] I don't even want to think how mainstream they are going to make STALKER 2. I hope I am wrong, but it going multiplatform scares the **** out of me.

Ever played Metro on 360? I expect it to be even more in favor of the PC version with STALKER.

Not on the 360 I haven't. I'm not really worried about the tech side of the game, but the core gameplay elements. I just don't see the old formula being popular with the console crowd.

what exactly is different about the "old formula". compared to bad company 2.
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Not on the 360 I haven't. I'm not really worried about the tech side of the game, but the core gameplay elements. I just don't see the old formula being popular with the console crowd. psn8214

GSC has never been a compromising developer. What's to change? Nothing in STALKER was impossible on consoles gameplay-wise, so I have yet high hopes for 2.

I just don't understand how they expect it to sell on consoles, they don't advertise.
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#113 mitu123
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This game sounds like it's going to put my old rig through its paces.

I need to upgrade.

The_Capitalist
A quad core and 4 GB would be great for a start, as well as a gpu that does DX11 if you're into that.
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I hOpe they do a good job on consoles too, though. I know that bf is best on pc but the way they act it's like they forget they have battlefield fans on consoles anticipating the game too. It isn't fair when consoles have less features, an inferior version, all for a higher price than pc. It seems to me like consoles are an afterthought. I believed DICE wouldnt let the console version be bad but with all this info it seems pc will get an amazing version while consoles get the bad, poorly detailed version. Obviously I'm not asking for 64 players or pc graphics, I just want a sign from DICE that we aren't forgotten and that the console crowd aren't idiots who get everything stripped away from them for a higher cost. At least show us your supporting us too, cause ever since BF3 was announced, it's been all about pc and what isn't on consoles.XVision84

Sounds like how pc gamers feel for most multiplats. That's doesn't mean the games are worse on the PC because it's the opposite, it's just that they don't feel like they are using the PC's advantages. It would be like if a game launched on the console without right analog stick support and the text is so small it's unreadable.

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#115 dream431ca
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My biggest release of the year!! BF3 is gonna own so hard! DO WANT!

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[QUOTE="psn8214"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Not on the 360 I haven't. I'm not really worried about the tech side of the game, but the core gameplay elements. I just don't see the old formula being popular with the console crowd. SAGE_OF_FIRE

GSC has never been a compromising developer. What's to change? Nothing in STALKER was impossible on consoles gameplay-wise, so I have yet high hopes for 2.

I just don't understand how they expect it to sell on consoles, they don't advertise.

It won't sell at all. In fact, if they do release it on consoles, they are going to regret it I'm guessing.

Mainstream gamers(the ones that don't do any research) will just look at the game as a Haze game basically.

They've never heard of it and no commercials for the game. Unless they have a front page demo like Crysis 2 did, it won't sell.

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#117 walkingdream
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AWESOMEEEE
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#118 The_Capitalist
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[QUOTE="The_Capitalist"]

This game sounds like it's going to put my old rig through its paces.

I need to upgrade.

mitu123

A quad core and 4 GB would be great for a start, as well as a gpu that does DX11 if you're into that.

Yeah, I've been thinking about getting a Q8400 and a GTX 560 Ti as an upgrade for a while now. Still on LGA775, unfortunately. And a new monitor too!

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#119 JVII
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Was it stated whether or not the magazine screens are from a console version? I def want to see the PC version if that is correct(which I really hope it is).

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#120 FGMPR
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I hOpe they do a good job on consoles too, though. I know that bf is best on pc but the way they act it's like they forget they have battlefield fans on consoles anticipating the game too. It isn't fair when consoles have less features, an inferior version, all for a higher price than pc. It seems to me like consoles are an afterthought. I believed DICE wouldnt let the console version be bad but with all this info it seems pc will get an amazing version while consoles get the bad, poorly detailed version. Obviously I'm not asking for 64 players or pc graphics, I just want a sign from DICE that we aren't forgotten and that the console crowd aren't idiots who get everything stripped away from them for a higher cost. At least show us your supporting us too, cause ever since BF3 was announced, it's been all about pc and what isn't on consoles.XVision84

Why isn't it fair that the PC version is the vastly superior one? That's like complaining that the Wii version of Black Ops should have achieved parity with the HD console versions in player count and features...

It didn't, and very few Wii owners complained about it because they knew the fact that they were running vastly inferior hardware on a much more limited network. If you don't want to play on PC, then that's fine. Don't expect a modern PC experience on your console though, and don't complain about unfairness when it's a sequel to a best selling PC game. The console BF's have all been spin-off's. BF3 is just continuing that, even if they aren't changing the name this time for console release.

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"No mod tools at release. Maybe none down the line either. Frosbite 2.0 is complex and mods tools would have to be dumbed down, so does Dice really want to put their time to that or would it be better spent elsewhere?" Damn it! :( BF2 had an amazing mod community.
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#122 mitu123
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Was it stated whether or not the magazine screens are from a console version? I def want to see the PC version if that is correct(which I really hope it is).

JVII
That looks like the PC version to me, impressive if it was consoles, that honestly looks better than most console games.
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#123 cobrax55
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[QUOTE="JVII"]

Was it stated whether or not the magazine screens are from a console version? I def want to see the PC version if that is correct(which I really hope it is).

mitu123

That looks like the PC version to me, impressive if it was consoles, that honestly looks better than most console games.

Just count the amount of people you see on screen 8)

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#124 AdrianWerner
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"No mod tools at release. Maybe none down the line either. Frosbite 2.0 is complex and mods tools would have to be dumbed down, so does Dice really want to put their time to that or would it be better spent elsewhere?" Damn it! :( BF2 had an amazing mod community. Juggernaut140
it did, but even with mods I doubt the community would be anywhere near as big. Modders seems to have switched to other engines and I doubt they would come back for BF3

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#125 cobrax55
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[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]"No mod tools at release. Maybe none down the line either. Frosbite 2.0 is complex and mods tools would have to be dumbed down, so does Dice really want to put their time to that or would it be better spent elsewhere?" Damn it! :( BF2 had an amazing mod community. AdrianWerner

it did, but even with mods I doubt the community would be anywhere near as big. Modders seems to have switched to other engines and I doubt they would come back for BF3

The potential to do large scale warfare on very large maps has always drawn modders, even if Mod support for BF games has always been crap.

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#126 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="breakinglaws"]

If S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 doesn't come out this year then I think we have shooter of the year folks, and just for fun, lets guess system requirements.

millerlight89

I don't even want to think how mainstream they are going to make STALKER 2. I hope I am wrong, but it going multiplatform scares the **** out of me.

STALKER series is one of my favorites this gen, but the moment I've heard the sequel going multiplat was the moment I lost all hype for it. If it's good I will buy it and enjoy the hell out of it, but any hype and hopes I had went out of the window.

Same thing happened with Mafia II.

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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="Juggernaut140"]"No mod tools at release. Maybe none down the line either. Frosbite 2.0 is complex and mods tools would have to be dumbed down, so does Dice really want to put their time to that or would it be better spent elsewhere?" Damn it! :( BF2 had an amazing mod community. cobrax55

it did, but even with mods I doubt the community would be anywhere near as big. Modders seems to have switched to other engines and I doubt they would come back for BF3

The potential to do large scale warfare on very large maps has always drawn modders, even if Mod support for BF games has always been crap.

I just don't see it. I mean..what's the best BF2 mod team? Project Reality team most likely. You see them moving to BF3 if it had mod support when they're already making PR for ARMA2? I don't.

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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="psn8214"]

GSC has never been a compromising developer. What's to change? Nothing in STALKER was impossible on consoles gameplay-wise, so I have yet high hopes for 2.

DragonfireXZ95

I just don't understand how they expect it to sell on consoles, they don't advertise.

It won't sell at all. In fact, if they do release it on consoles, they are going to regret it I'm guessing.

Mainstream gamers(the ones that don't do any research) will just look at the game as a Haze game basically.

They've never heard of it and no commercials for the game. Unless they have a front page demo like Crysis 2 did, it won't sell.

Funnily enough Crysis 2's designer are from Haze (well some of em)

Anyway BF3 will be epic

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#129 cobrax55
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[QUOTE="cobrax55"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]it did, but even with mods I doubt the community would be anywhere near as big. Modders seems to have switched to other engines and I doubt they would come back for BF3

AdrianWerner

The potential to do large scale warfare on very large maps has always drawn modders, even if Mod support for BF games has always been crap.

I just don't see it. I mean..what's the best BF2 mod team? Project Reality team most likely. You see them moving to BF3 if it had mod support when they're already making PR for ARMA2? I don't.

The PR team is likely moving on to making thier own game.

PR for Arma2 isnt even the same team.

But thats not the point. The point is that both BF1942 and BF2 had very good mods (granted also very few).

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#130 AAllxxjjnn
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All of the scans are online now. They look amazing.
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#131 AdrianWerner
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But thats not the point. The point is that both BF1942 and BF2 had very good mods (granted also very few).

cobrax55

No, the point is whether BF3 would have the same if it included mod support. IMO it wouldn't.

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#132 Solid_Tango
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Pc version is the lead version? DAY ONE Seriously i might even buy a new GPU if needed
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#133 MIYAMOTOnext007
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BF3 and Red Orchestra 2 in 2011??? man its good to be a PC gamer :D

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#134 JVII
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[QUOTE="JVII"]

Was it stated whether or not the magazine screens are from a console version? I def want to see the PC version if that is correct(which I really hope it is).

mitu123

That looks like the PC version to me, impressive if it was consoles, that honestly looks better than most console games.

Yeah, the few low quality photos had me a little skeptical on if it was for sure or not, but after seeing the full scans I can see that it's def the lead version.

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#135 Sandvichman
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Yep, I'm upgrading now to get those graphics, my new cpu should come in tomorrow, now I need more than 4 GB RAM.

mitu123
4 gigs will be good enoug, but you should wait until after the summer before upgrading, even Repi, a dice employee said so.
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#136 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Yep, I'm upgrading now to get those graphics, my new cpu should come in tomorrow, now I need more than 4 GB RAM.

Sandvichman
4 gigs will be good enoug, but you should wait until after the summer before upgrading, even Repi, a dice employee said so.

Yeah, I should be prepared by then, thanks for the info.
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#137 hypoty
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I'm glad it's actually taking advantage of today's PC hardware, the player count difference is immense. The future of large scale multiplayer shooters are definitely looking bright with RO2 and BF3 on the way, I'll just have to find the time to play both.

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#138 dustinbarnes
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[QUOTE="enterawesome"]"PC is the lead version" I've expressed this before, but once again this annoys me. Why do people like myself pay extra for games like this and still get less features? "Why 64 players for PC? No complains from console gamers" That REALLY bothers me. Console gamers aren't stupid by default, nobody who might be planning on purchasing the game for a console would be pleased at hearing they get less features. In my opinion, Dice should just quit wasting their time porting an overpriced, stripped-down version and add more features to PC with the extra manpower. AAllxxjjnn
The problem lies with bandwidth. They can't do 64 players with hella destruction and vehicles within the limitations set on them by MS and Sony.

Lmao, even if it's only 50 players that 25 other people waiting inside a map to kill your ass. I don't see the major problem here, it's still going to be an amazing game and honestely I don't care about a couple more campers and snipers posting up waiting for me to try and run them down because with FPS nowdays there's alot of little kids that love to camp and especially in a massive map that holds that many players. If people expect gaming to be more like real war don't expect to run **** because your gonna get killed by someone that isn't as good as you most the time.

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#139 Luxen90
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Wonder if they'll support that Razor hydra motion controller.
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I want to be able to choose what I want to unlock. Not a fan of the CoD system..
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]I hOpe they do a good job on consoles too, though. I know that bf is best on pc but the way they act it's like they forget they have battlefield fans on consoles anticipating the game too. It isn't fair when consoles have less features, an inferior version, all for a higher price than pc. It seems to me like consoles are an afterthought. I believed DICE wouldnt let the console version be bad but with all this info it seems pc will get an amazing version while consoles get the bad, poorly detailed version. Obviously I'm not asking for 64 players or pc graphics, I just want a sign from DICE that we aren't forgotten and that the console crowd aren't idiots who get everything stripped away from them for a higher cost. At least show us your supporting us too, cause ever since BF3 was announced, it's been all about pc and what isn't on consoles.FGMPR

Why isn't it fair that the PC version is the vastly superior one? That's like complaining that the Wii version of Black Ops should have achieved parity with the HD console versions in player count and features...

It didn't, and very few Wii owners complained about it because they knew the fact that they were running vastly inferior hardware on a much more limited network. If you don't want to play on PC, then that's fine. Don't expect a modern PC experience on your console though, and don't complain about unfairness when it's a sequel to a best selling PC game. The console BF's have all been spin-off's. BF3 is just continuing that, even if they aren't changing the name this time for console release.

Well said. With any luck, maybe you console guys can get a proper BF3 experience next gen. :)

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#142 arto1223
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Been waiting quite a few years for this game. BF2 is still in my top 3 list for shooters of all time. BFBC2 had a great run, but it is time for the true king of shooters to return.

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Battlefield 1943: Why The 24-Player Limit?

Simple answer: because of consoles. Long answer, courtesy of 1943 programmer Gustav Halling: because of consoles' bandwidth limits, and inability to process network data in a speedy manner

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The short answer is they didn't want to spend the money for dedicated servers.

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Crap.

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#145 Malta_1980
Member since 2008 • 11890 Posts

I will get BF3 for PC, hoping my PC setup will be enough to handle the game... :)

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#146 mattuk69
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The problem lies with bandwidth. They can't do 64 players with hella destruction and vehicles within the limitations set on them by MS and Sony.

I'm calling BS on that one.

lol its not just battelfield that has low player count on console. I think TF2 only had 16 players on console when you can have 64 now on PC.
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#147 DragonfireXZ95
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I want to be able to choose what I want to unlock. Not a fan of the CoD system..Litchie
Actually, in Black Ops you can choose what to unlock. Of course, a lot of the stuff still has level restrictions even if you have enough money. I would never want to play CoD really, but at least it's a step in the right direction.
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#148 deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
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damn i hope my Phonem X4 9850 is up for this... if not, i'm gonna have to build a whole new rig.

anything coming after BF3 this year just got wiped out of my shopping list. propably even Skyrim.

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#149 DragonfireXZ95
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damn i hope my Phonem X4 9850 is up for this... if not, i'm gonna have to build a whole new rig.

anything coming after BF3 this year just got wiped out of my shopping list. propably even Skyrim.

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What is the 9850?
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#150 deactivated-5bda06edf37ee
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[QUOTE="groowagon"]

damn i hope my Phonem X4 9850 is up for this... if not, i'm gonna have to build a whole new rig.

anything coming after BF3 this year just got wiped out of my shopping list. propably even Skyrim.

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What is the 9850?

first models of the AMD Phenom-series. 4 x 2,5Ghz @ AM2 socket mobo. can't even overclock it with this piece of s***, even if it's the Black Edition (unlocked multiplier)...