Game Informer: "Suddenly the PS3 doesn't sound too overpriced"

Direct quote from Game Informer April 2007 Magazine:

"It's a shame we all bought the supposed 'premium' Xbox 360 already, but the extra space is very welcome for multimedia purposes. HDMI isn't too huge, but at least it'll give Sony one less PS3 stat to brag about. As far as the price tag for the 120GB goes, what a rip-off! In two minutes online, I found a 500GB PC har drive for around the same price. Plus, when you add the price of an HD-DVD drive to this black box, you're looking at $680. Suddenly the PS3 doesn't seem so overpriced."

DaddyDC650

Where in the magazine did you find this?  Game Infarcer?

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="famousking"][QUOTE="gamefreak5590"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidhyperboy152000

to be fair LIVE is the console online servce that is the standard....if it wasnt sony wouldnt have been pushing HOME....they wouldnt have any reason to

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"]+ $270 for online. Unless you want half the experience that PS3 users get. But, you are getting significantly less of an experience already, what with no HD movies and everything... So maybe you dont want a good experience with a console. Lets not forget buying extra controllers, AND the charger kids. But you dont want that do you? I mean, its OPTIONAL isnt it? You prefer a stripped down experience. Playing alone in a basement, noone there to enjoy a fullfilling experience with. But wait! On the plus side, you prefer to play 100% by yourself. So at least you wont need to see a long wire moving through your house, because you aint got no wifi.SpruceCaboose

    See, I have a gaming system for games. If I wanted a movie player, I'd buy one. As for the fee for Live, I gladly pay it in order to get a streamlined, unified experience that allows for more games to be played online. I don't see how cows can continue to bash paying for Live when Virtua Tennis just showed, convincingly, why paying a relatively small yearly fee is beneficial. 360 owners can play Virtua Tennis online, while PS3 owners cannot. 

 as a sub point for both online services AND consoles.....you really do get what you pay for

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"] Bluray isnt useless... Its being used for games. But will rarely get used to its full potential. Rarely, maybe. But it is being put to use in: Final Fantasy 13 Metal Gear Solid 4 Resistance (launch title) And like mark said, soon games will be well over 20GB. MS Flight simulator is 20 GB (Was it 20? I think it might have been 14...)bloodlust_101

Compression is great though. It makes data fit into smaller spaces.

    The PS3 is a great system, but you are making up absurd points to justify it.

    And the loads on PS3 games are minimal because of HDD caching, not the "superiority" of Blu-Ray or the compression.

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"]+ $270 for online. Unless you want half the experience that PS3 users get. But, you are getting significantly less of an experience already, what with no HD movies and everything... So maybe you dont want a good experience with a console. Lets not forget buying extra controllers, AND the charger kids. But you dont want that do you? I mean, its OPTIONAL isnt it? You prefer a stripped down experience. Playing alone in a basement, noone there to enjoy a fullfilling experience with. But wait! On the plus side, you prefer to play 100% by yourself. So at least you wont need to see a long wire moving through your house, because you aint got no wifi.SpruceCaboose

    See, I have a gaming system for games. If I wanted a movie player, I'd buy one. As for the fee for Live, I gladly pay it in order to get a streamlined, unified experience that allows for more games to be played online. I don't see how cows can continue to bash paying for Live when Virtua Tennis just showed, convincingly, why paying a relatively small yearly fee is beneficial. 360 owners can play Virtua Tennis online, while PS3 owners cannot. 

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="famousking"][QUOTE="gamefreak5590"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidbloodlust_101

to be fair LIVE is the console online servce that is the standard....if it wasnt sony wouldnt have been pushing HOME....they wouldnt have any reason to

 $50 a year is nothing. 

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"] Bluray isnt useless... Its being used for games. But will rarely get used to its full potential. Rarely, maybe. But it is being put to use in: Final Fantasy 13 Metal Gear Solid 4 Resistance (launch title) And like mark said, soon games will be well over 20GB. MS Flight simulator is 20 GB (Was it 20? I think it might have been 14...)bloodlust_101

Compression is great though. It makes data fit into smaller spaces.

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"]

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="famousking"][QUOTE="gamefreak5590"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidbloodlust_101

to be fair LIVE is the console online servce that is the standard....if it wasnt sony wouldnt have been pushing HOME....they wouldnt have any reason to

the whole two games that are pushing online gaming on ps3...sure there are a few more but they are not famed for the online aspect like res ant moto...whereas the 360 library is majority online enabled

[QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidbloodlust_101

You do know the 20 GB PS3 doesn't have Wi Fi either?

[QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="zidane345"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Said-KinGz-

Direct quote from Game Informer April 2007 Magazine:

"It's a shame we all bought the supposed 'premium' Xbox 360 already, but the extra space is very welcome for multimedia purposes. HDMI isn't too huge, but at least it'll give Sony one less PS3 stat to brag about. As far as the price tag for the 120GB goes, what a rip-off! In two minutes online, I found a 500GB PC har drive for around the same price. Plus, when you add the price of an HD-DVD drive to this black box, you're looking at $680. Suddenly the PS3 doesn't seem so overpriced."

DaddyDC650

Xbox 360 uses 2.5 inch laptop hard drives. The one the guy found was a 5.25 inch hard drive, which are cheaper than laptop hard drives. If you have an adapter , of course you can use the PC hard drive. But Im guessing most people dont, so its fruitless to look for PC hard drives for something that isnt compatible with them.nytrospawn

Do you still have to pay to play with other gamers online? Exactly.bloodlust_101

    Do people pay to play MMORPGs online? Yeah they do. Even EverQuest on PS2 if I remember correctly. Why? Because the cost is justified by what you get in return.

I can hook up an external HD to my PS3 for 100 dollars. Thats 200 extra gb ontop of my 60 which is twice as much as the xboxPaintballinDude

    And I already linked to where you can do the same thing with the 360. 

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"] Bluray isnt useless... Its being used for games. But will rarely get used to its full potential. Rarely, maybe. But it is being put to use in: Final Fantasy 13 Metal Gear Solid 4 Resistance (launch title) And like mark said, soon games will be well over 20GB. MS Flight simulator is 20 GB (Was it 20? I think it might have been 14...)SpruceCaboose

Compression is great though. It makes data fit into smaller spaces.

    The PS3 is a great system, but you are making up absurd points to justify it.

    And the loads on PS3 games are minimal because of HDD caching, not the "superiority" of Blu-Ray or the compression.

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"]+ $270 for online. Unless you want half the experience that PS3 users get. But, you are getting significantly less of an experience already, what with no HD movies and everything... So maybe you dont want a good experience with a console. Lets not forget buying extra controllers, AND the charger kids. But you dont want that do you? I mean, its OPTIONAL isnt it? You prefer a stripped down experience. Playing alone in a basement, noone there to enjoy a fullfilling experience with. But wait! On the plus side, you prefer to play 100% by yourself. So at least you wont need to see a long wire moving through your house, because you aint got no wifi.SpruceCaboose

    See, I have a gaming system for games. If I wanted a movie player, I'd buy one. As for the fee for Live, I gladly pay it in order to get a streamlined, unified experience that allows for more games to be played online. I don't see how cows can continue to bash paying for Live when Virtua Tennis just showed, convincingly, why paying a relatively small yearly fee is beneficial. 360 owners can play Virtua Tennis online, while PS3 owners cannot. 

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"] Do you still have to pay to play with other gamers online? Exactly.SpruceCaboose

Do people pay to play MMORPGs online? Yeah they do. Even EverQuest on PS2 if I remember correctly. Why? Because the cost is justified by what you get in return.

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"]You cant buy a 360 for $300 either (In Canada) Actually, its an extra $100 for Canadians. And a PS3 is an extra $50/$60 for a MORE EXPENSIVE product. Microsoft TRUELY cares about its customers :roll:.dimar19

Who cares about Canada? Put off your goverment and join US

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"] Do you still have to pay to play with other gamers online? Exactly.SpruceCaboose

    Do people pay to play MMORPGs online? Yeah they do. Even EverQuest on PS2 if I remember correctly. Why? Because the cost is justified by what you get in return.

you honestly cant compair PSN with LIVE....PSN IS and WILL be a generation behind until they completely unify their structure....hopefully HOME will encompass that though....

Lemmings would never do that! Silly! :Pasmallchild

    And yet, I still have supported the PS3 in many threads, as well as PC gaming, the Wii, and the 360, and I have posted negative things about each of them. But if you cannot create real, decent reasons that the PS3 is "the best", then I have every right to question the reasoning.

Could you buy PS3 for 300$?

/thread, PS 3 flopped

dimar19

Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidluckystar23

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough SaidThe_Game21x

You do know the 20 GB PS3 doesn't have Wi Fi either?

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"] Do you still have to pay to play with other gamers online? Exactly.SpruceCaboose

    Do people pay to play MMORPGs online? Yeah they do. Even EverQuest on PS2 if I remember correctly. Why? Because the cost is justified by what you get in return.

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"] Do you still have to pay to play with other gamers online? Exactly.hyperboy152000

Do people pay to play MMORPGs online? Yeah they do. Even EverQuest on PS2 if I remember correctly. Why? Because the cost is justified by what you get in return.

you honestly cant compair PSN with LIVE....PSN IS and WILL be a generation behind until they completely unify their structure....hopefully HOME will encompass that though....

    All I am saying is that $50 a year is not that much money for what you get in return. If PSN did everything that Live did, and was free, then MS should be kicked really hard, and if Home takes off and does that, MS better drop the fee, or offer something spectacular in return for the fee. 

[QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"]+ $270 for online. Unless you want half the experience that PS3 users get. But, you are getting significantly less of an experience already, what with no HD movies and everything... So maybe you dont want a good experience with a console. Lets not forget buying extra controllers, AND the charger kids. But you dont want that do you? I mean, its OPTIONAL isnt it? You prefer a stripped down experience. Playing alone in a basement, noone there to enjoy a fullfilling experience with. But wait! On the plus side, you prefer to play 100% by yourself. So at least you wont need to see a long wire moving through your house, because you aint got no wifi.xBALOx

    See, I have a gaming system for games. If I wanted a movie player, I'd buy one. As for the fee for Live, I gladly pay it in order to get a streamlined, unified experience that allows for more games to be played online. I don't see how cows can continue to bash paying for Live when Virtua Tennis just showed, convincingly, why paying a relatively small yearly fee is beneficial. 360 owners can play Virtua Tennis online, while PS3 owners cannot. 

honestly killzone on console still has to prove itself as a compitent shooter (i play the heck outa liberation though) and halo will have to be royally effed up to not be a great online FPS... and UT(III) is on both consoles

But if you can get Everquest for free. Why pay? You wouldnt. If you say to support the game. Why dont you donate $50 a year to your favorite video game company? NOT including buying their games. I mean litterally, donate $50 a year to them.bloodlust_101

    You can get anything for free if you really want to. You can use XB Connect to play online for free. Its not a great system, but it works. I would much rather pay $50 a year for the added benefits I get from Live.

[QUOTE="hyperboy152000"][QUOTE="SpruceCaboose"]

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"] Do you still have to pay to play with other gamers online? Exactly.SpruceCaboose

Do people pay to play MMORPGs online? Yeah they do. Even EverQuest on PS2 if I remember correctly. Why? Because the cost is justified by what you get in return.

you honestly cant compair PSN with LIVE....PSN IS and WILL be a generation behind until they completely unify their structure....hopefully HOME will encompass that though....

    All I am saying is that $50 a year is not that much money for what you get in return. If PSN did everything that Live did, and was free, then MS should be kicked really hard, and if Home takes off and does that, MS better drop the fee, or offer something spectacular in return for the fee. 

thats what i hope they will do....that is if HOME becomes the thing to beat on consoles interms of online services..but sharing user created atuff(movies mainly) with friends for free is almost a given success

The Elite's going to have an HD-DVD drive in it? ... I don't want to pay for that! Damn!SimpJee

    The Elite will not have the HD-DVD drive in it. 

Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidluckystar23

With the same HDMI, 1080p, and a hard drive that is 6 times larger. Life is good :)

[QUOTE="asmallchild"]Lemmings would never do that! Silly! :PSpruceCaboose

    And yet, I still have supported the PS3 in many threads, as well as PC gaming, the Wii, and the 360, and I have posted negative things about each of them. But if you cannot create real, decent reasons that the PS3 is "the best", then I have every right to question the reasoning.

[QUOTE="SimpJee"]The Elite's going to have an HD-DVD drive in it? ... I don't want to pay for that! Damn!SpruceCaboose

    The Elite will not have the HD-DVD drive in it. 

[QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough SaidCodename33

With the same HDMI, 1080p, and a hard drive that is 6 times larger. Life is good :)

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"]But if you can get Everquest for free. Why pay? You wouldnt. If you say to support the game. Why dont you donate $50 a year to your favorite video game company? NOT including buying their games. I mean litterally, donate $50 a year to them.SpruceCaboose

    You can get anything for free if you really want to. You can use XB Connect to play online for free. Its not a great system, but it works. I would much rather pay $50 a year for the added benefits I get from Live.

Is it COMPLETELY free?

Legal?

Has all the features of XBL?

Lag free? Same speed?

If even 1 of those isnt a 'no', then you are stripping down your experience.

thats what i hope they will do....that is if HOME becomes the thing to beat on consoles interms of online services..but sharing user created atuff(movies mainly) with friends for free is almost a given success

hyperboy152000

    Like I said. If Sony pulls it off, MS has some explaining to do.

    As for the PS3, it is a new console that has not hit its stride yet. It will be a great system with many great games, but using the same tired, lame, price excuse (going either way) as a reason a console is better or worse is not convincing.

    I will own a PS3, once its cheaper, because, while $500-$600 is a good deal for a system with Blu-Ray, it is still too expensive for me, and I don't care about either HD format right now. 

    And yes, something can be a good deal and still be too expensive. 

Explain XB Connect please. I havent researched into this. Is it COMPLETELY free? Legal? Has all the features of XBL? Lag free? Same speed? If even 1 of those isnt a 'no', then you are stripping down your experience. bloodlust_101

    It is not XBL, it is not endorsed by MS, and it is as lag free as the host. As for legal, yes, as far as I know.

    It basically emulates having a LAN party. It was most popular for playing Halo: CE online. 

[QUOTE="Codename33"]

[QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidasmallchild

With the same HDMI, 1080p, and a hard drive that is 6 times larger. Life is good :)

    Why would you buy a second one? 

[QUOTE="-KinGz-"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="zidane345"][QUOTE="shungokustasu"][QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough Saidshungokustasu

You can choose whether or not you want a hamburger or cheeseburger. It might depend on what place you're at obviously, but most notably, at McDonald's, you can choose a hamburger or cheeseburger.

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"]Explain XB Connect please. I havent researched into this. Is it COMPLETELY free? Legal? Has all the features of XBL? Lag free? Same speed? If even 1 of those isnt a 'no', then you are stripping down your experience. SpruceCaboose

    It is not XBL, it is not endorsed by MS, and it is as lag free as the host. As for legal, yes, as far as I know.

    It basically emulates having a LAN party. It was most popular for playing Halo: CE online. 

Voice, video, text chat? Buddy list? Downloads and patches? Online game lobbies, where you can face other people that arent using XBC?bloodlust_101

    I don't know. I don't use the thing. I told you I pay for and use Live. I said its a free alternative. I never claimed to know everything about it. If you are that interested, Google the thing. 

    As for Voice, video, text, buddy lists, downloads, patches, you can get those for free on Live with Silver. 

[QUOTE="asmallchild"][QUOTE="Codename33"]

[QUOTE="luckystar23"]Even the Elite is cheaper than the 20GB PS3. Enough SaidSpruceCaboose

With the same HDMI, 1080p, and a hard drive that is 6 times larger. Life is good :)

Why would you buy a second one?

[QUOTE="bloodlust_101"] Voice, video, text chat? Buddy list? Downloads and patches? Online game lobbies, where you can face other people that arent using XBC?SpruceCaboose

    I don't know. I don't use the thing. I told you I pay for and use Live. I said its a free alternative. I never claimed to know everything about it. If you are that interested, Google the thing. 

    As for Voice, video, text, buddy lists, downloads, patches, you can get those for free on Live with Silver. 

Yesterday in 30 seconds I found a 120 gigabyte 2.5" SATA PS3 compatible hard drive for $115.Redfingers

I bought a Toshiba 120GB SATA for my 20GB PS3 on newegg.com for 89.00. Not bragging or making a comparison to yours, just further solidifying Game Informer's remarks about the 360 120GB being a "RIP-OFF."

    Like I said earlier, since everyone is ignoring it, I am not trying to bash the PS3. I will own one myself at some point. But quite simply, PSN does not yet compare with Live. If Home is everything Sony promises it to be, then MS needs to revise their strategy.

    However, you using some illogical pricing arguement by adding all these un-needed things into the costs of the systems is not working.

    You can clearly see through it everytime, and you can use it against any of the consoles. You want to add HD-DVD, someone could add on a headset. You want to add Live, someone adds cables.

    You could eventually just add one every game for the systems, plus any downloads, and everything else you could buy. And that works for any system.

[QUOTE="Redfingers"]Yesterday in 30 seconds I found a 120 gigabyte 2.5" SATA PS3 compatible hard drive for $115.ironcreed

I bought a Toshiba 120GB SATA for my 20GB PS3 on newegg.com for 89.00. Not bragging or making a comparison to yours, just further solidifying Game Informer's remarks about the 360 120GB being a "RIP-OFF."

But not play other people right? The biggest point. Your paying $270 to play other people. We pay nothing, and have less lag accompanied with it. THATS what Im saying. Understand? Playing other people online, increases the 360s price by $270 after 5 years. Playing other people online, increases the PS3s price by $0 after 5 years.bloodlust_101

    And anyone, on any network, claiming there is no lag is just bull. There is going to be lag as long as networks are different, instantaneous data transfers still don't exist,  and ISPs are different.

    And like I said, the unified online with Live supported in every game is worth the $50 a year to me. 

How much does the 360 one sell for?bloodlust_101

    There is no official word on pricing. 

    Like I said earlier, since everyone is ignoring it, I am not trying to bash the PS3. I will own one myself at some point. But quite simply, PSN does not yet compare with Live. If Home is everything Sony promises it to be, then MS needs to revise their strategy.

    However, you using some illogical pricing arguement by adding all these un-needed things into the costs of the systems is not working.

    You can clearly see through it everytime, and you can use it against any of the consoles. You want to add HD-DVD, someone could add on a headset. You want to add Live, someone adds cables.

    You could eventually just add one every game for the systems, plus any downloads, and everything else you could buy. And that works for any system.

SpruceCaboose