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#51 DarkyC
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[QUOTE="nervmeister"][QUOTE="TheAnnihilation"]

Dude, I'd accept it if I were you - even your biggest first-person shooter (strong genre) can be outsold by a RTS (weak genre)...

TheAnnihilation

Dont you mean out-rented.

No, I mean outsold because I do believe Halo Wars can outsell the big shooter Killzone 2.

It wouldn't be a good sign; a game in a weak genre outsells the exceedingly hyped and critically acclaimed important shooter in the very popular genre. I wouldn't like it, either...

Long shot. Gamefly is US only (where the 360 to PS3 ratio is far higher). If even then it barely edges out K2, worldwide it's probably going to sell less.

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#52 quicksilverXP24
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I suspect a lot of surprised and disappointed Halo buyers though...
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#53 xsubtownerx
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[QUOTE="thetruespin"]Fact is - Metacritic Halo Wars: 80 Killzone 2: 92 End

There's only been two reviews for Halo Wars.. lulz.
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#54 ski11buzz
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I suspect a lot of surprised and disappointed Halo buyers though...quicksilverXP24
exactly.
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#55 xsubtownerx
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[QUOTE="quicksilverXP24"]I suspect a lot of surprised and disappointed Halo buyers though...ski11buzz
exactly.

Right because all those people haven't seen videos, or screenshots of the game. They also haven't read about it or tried the Demo. :roll:
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#56 black_tempest
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[QUOTE="thetruespin"]Fact is - Metacritic Halo Wars: 80 Killzone 2: 92 Endxsubtownerx
There's only been two reviews for Halo Wars.. lulz.

But I thought all early reviews were overhyped, or is that just the case for killzone 2 :roll:
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#57 one_on_one
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Do people actually believe that people will go to the store, look at the Halo Wars box, look at the back of the box and read the info, buy the game, take it home, put in it in their 360s, and be surprised that it's not a first person shooter?Or for those who say people will be surprised, can any of them elaborate what the surprise would be? :|:lol: Maybe it'll be surprisingly good.
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#58 Nike_Air
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Do people actually believe that people will go to the store, look at the Halo Wars box, look at the back of the box and read the info, buy the game, take it home, put in it in their 360s, and be surprised that it's not a first person shooter?Or for those who say people will be surprised, can any of them elaborate what the surprise would be? :|:lol: Maybe it'll be surprisingly good.
one_on_one
I think that some people won't read the back of the box or know that it is a rts game (or even know what an rts is).

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#59 istreakforfood
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Halo Wars is an overrated game.

Its a mediocre shooter and doesnt even do anything special, just like halo3.

Its obvious Killzone is a better game

LunchBox-

What? It's not even a shooter.

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#60 damedash122
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These are the FACTS! both games are surprisingly good! a lot of 360 owners i know will be renting killzone 2! as well as halo wars! i think halo wars toppled killzone for the top spot because people were amazed at how good it was for a real time strategy! i thought it was amazing and i never play RTS! but this demo had me hooked. FACT Killzone was at the top of the charts because a lot of people are skeptical about the hype and would like to test it out b4 they buy it! as the demo didnt do anything for people except say...graphics r awesome and controls are weird.! FACT the NPD charts will speak for themselves when both games are released! In my opinion though Killzone will be more of a rental than a buy same goes for Halo Wars! although i will be buying Halo wars

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#61 -DrRobotnik-
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[QUOTE="one_on_one"]Do people actually believe that people will go to the store, look at the Halo Wars box, look at the back of the box and read the info, buy the game, take it home, put in it in their 360s, and be surprised that it's not a first person shooter?Or for those who say people will be surprised, can any of them elaborate what the surprise would be? :|:lol: Maybe it'll be surprisingly good.
Nike_Air

I think that some people won't read the back of the box or know that it is a rts game (or even know what an rts is).

And?....i keep hearing people saying that there will be many disappointed buyers expecting a FPS....but who cares? Does this effect the quality of the game? If someone buys this game without even at least looking at the pictures on the back of the cover, then they deserve to be disappointed.
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#62 Nike_Air
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[QUOTE="Nike_Air"]

[QUOTE="one_on_one"]Do people actually believe that people will go to the store, look at the Halo Wars box, look at the back of the box and read the info, buy the game, take it home, put in it in their 360s, and be surprised that it's not a first person shooter?Or for those who say people will be surprised, can any of them elaborate what the surprise would be? :|:lol: Maybe it'll be surprisingly good.
-DrRobotnik-

I think that some people won't read the back of the box or know that it is a rts game (or even know what an rts is).

And?....i keep hearing people saying that there will be many disappointed buyers expecting a FPS....but who cares? Does this effect the quality of the game? If someone buys this game without even at least looking at the pictures on the back of the cover, then they deserve to be disappointed.

And nothing ...... I just think there will be people that won't realise what they are buying and he obviously doesn't. I'm not knocking the game itself.

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#63 DrinkDuff
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[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="Nike_Air"]I think that some people won't read the back of the box or know that it is a rts game (or even know what an rts is).

Nike_Air

And?....i keep hearing people saying that there will be many disappointed buyers expecting a FPS....but who cares? Does this effect the quality of the game? If someone buys this game without even at least looking at the pictures on the back of the cover, then they deserve to be disappointed.

And nothing ...... I just think there will be people that won't realise what they are buying and he obviously doesn't. I'm not knocking the game itself.

Yeah, that says more about the fans than it does about the game. :P But while we are belittling fanbases, how about those internet predators on Home? :P
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#64 xsubtownerx
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[QUOTE="LunchBox-"]

Halo Wars is an overrated game.

Its a mediocre shooter and doesnt even do anything special, just like halo3.

Its obvious Killzone is a better game

istreakforfood

What? It's not even a shooter.

I really hope that guy was joking.. seriously. Wow. :lol:
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#65 finalfantasy94
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The Halo name plain and simple. Halo is like the mario of the xbox world.
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#66 rybe1025
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Halo vs New IP. Yeah, I'm surprised. :PLionheart08
You do know there is a reason why there is a 2 behind Killzone right? It is not a new IP.

On topic- Good news for Halo Wars. I do not think HW will get Halo sales numbers but it will probably sell well compared to RTS games.

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#67 patriots7672
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Halo Wars outselling KZ 2 just means 2 things; 1. there's more 360 owners. And 2. Even though it isn't as good as KZ 2 it will outsell it because it's the best that 360 owners have to look forward to this year.
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#68 xsubtownerx
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Halo Wars outselling KZ 2 just means 2 things; 1. there's more 360 owners. And 2. Even though it isn't as good as KZ 2 it will outsell it because it's the best that 360 owners have to look forward to this year.patriots7672
That's is full of fail. If anything it's the other way around, seeing as how sad it is that the PS3's most anticipated game is a generic shooter. You guys giving up on Resistance 2 already? ;)
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#69 Stiggsx
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[QUOTE="patriots7672"]Halo Wars outselling KZ 2 just means 2 things; 1. there's more 360 owners. And 2. Even though it isn't as good as KZ 2 it will outsell it because it's the best that 360 owners have to look forward to this year.xsubtownerx
That's is full of fail. If anything it's the other way around, seeing as how sad it is that the PS3's most anticipated game is a generic shooter. You guys giving up on Resistance 2 already? ;)

lol pwned...beside this guy gave haze a 7 lol
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#70 dragonpuppy
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[QUOTE="patriots7672"]Halo Wars outselling KZ 2 just means 2 things; 1. there's more 360 owners. And 2. Even though it isn't as good as KZ 2 it will outsell it because it's the best that 360 owners have to look forward to this year.xsubtownerx
That's is full of fail. If anything it's the other way around, seeing as how sad it is that the PS3's most anticipated game is a generic shooter. You guys giving up on Resistance 2 already? ;)

Since when did God of War 3 become a shooter? :|

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#71 nervmeister
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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="patriots7672"]Halo Wars outselling KZ 2 just means 2 things; 1. there's more 360 owners. And 2. Even though it isn't as good as KZ 2 it will outsell it because it's the best that 360 owners have to look forward to this year.dragonpuppy

That's is full of fail. If anything it's the other way around, seeing as how sad it is that the PS3's most anticipated game is a generic shooter. You guys giving up on Resistance 2 already? ;)

Since when did God of War 3 become a shooter? :|

Better brace yourself for all the "generic button masher" comments for that one.
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#72 teh_VU
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[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="patriots7672"]Halo Wars outselling KZ 2 just means 2 things; 1. there's more 360 owners. And 2. Even though it isn't as good as KZ 2 it will outsell it because it's the best that 360 owners have to look forward to this year.dragonpuppy

That's is full of fail. If anything it's the other way around, seeing as how sad it is that the PS3's most anticipated game is a generic shooter. You guys giving up on Resistance 2 already? ;)

Since when did God of War 3 become a shooter? :|

I think KZ2 is more hyped than GoW3. So KZ2 would still be the most anticipated game of the year on the PS3.
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#73 Inger1
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Alrite I'll be the first to "spin" this

Its obvious that Halo Wars tops gamefly because people only want to rent this game, they don't want to purchase it. KZ2 on the other hand people don't need to waste time renting; they are just going to buy it right away.

- Sarcasm ends here -

I fully expect Halo Wars to outsell KZ2, Sony has failed to market this game so far and if they don't they can expect standard sales for a sony blockbuster. You know, 1 million in NA 2.5-3million world wide. Halo Wars on the other hand will sell huge simply because of the name halo, sure its a console RTS but I bet loads of people will buy it that don't even know its an rts.

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#74 Trigger_Hppy
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Halo Wars outselling KZ 2 just means 2 things; 1. there's more 360 owners. And 2. Even though it isn't as good as KZ 2 it will outsell it because it's the best that 360 owners have to look forward to this year.patriots7672

And we have a winner! Gosh, I love fanboys. Think of how dull it would be without them.

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#75 Foxhound_spy
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Lol............ Even when Bungie decide to make Halo Racing or Halo music it still sold like hotcakes. Because those game have a HALO title in it...........
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#76 Lionheart08
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]Halo vs New IP. Yeah, I'm surprised. :Prybe1025

You do know there is a reason why there is a 2 behind Killzone right? It is not a new IP.

Okay, I have my dummy moments. For some reason I always forget about the first Killzone (maybe cause I never played). :oops:

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#77 Keep-the-Faith
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rentals is a good indicator of sales.
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#78 user_nat
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I actually think KZ2 will outsell Halo Wars. Don't know why everyone thinks Halo Wars will sell like Halo 3, it won't.
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#79 PSGamerforlife
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I have a slight feeling that most people dont accually know what sort of genre halo wars accually is.

I think the Halo part is going to be making sell like crazy.

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#80 Keep-the-Faith
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I actually think KZ2 will outsell Halo Wars. Don't know why everyone thinks Halo Wars will sell like Halo 3, it won't.user_nat

nobody said it will sell 9 million copies.

HW might do 3-4 million lifetime which is pretty amazing.

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#81 AdmiralBison
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="LunchBox-"] :lol: and ur hyping god of war 3, oihhh god the irony GTR_FX
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Halo vs New IP. Yeah, I'm surprised. :PLionheart08
killzone is not a new ip, KZ1 and KZ liberation say hi

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#82 LightReflection
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Name recognition FTW.nervmeister
Yeah, the Halo moniker is huge among gamers.
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#83 tek91
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[QUOTE="user_nat"]I actually think KZ2 will outsell Halo Wars. Don't know why everyone thinks Halo Wars will sell like Halo 3, it won't.Keep-the-Faith

nobody said it will sell 9 million copies.

HW might do 3-4 million lifetime which is pretty amazing.

we just have to wait and see it's possible that it could flop like Banjo yet Killzone 2 is certain not to flop it's already got before the demo around 1.3 mil pre order and that's just in euro countries.

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#84 Nike_Air
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[QUOTE="Keep-the-Faith"]

[QUOTE="user_nat"]I actually think KZ2 will outsell Halo Wars. Don't know why everyone thinks Halo Wars will sell like Halo 3, it won't.tek91

nobody said it will sell 9 million copies.

HW might do 3-4 million lifetime which is pretty amazing.

we just have to wait and see it could flop like Banjo it's possible Killzone 2 is certain not to flop it's already got before the demo around 1.3 mil pre order and that's just in euro countries

Those "pre-order" numbers aren't customer pre-orders. Just letting you know.

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#85 tek91
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Those "pre-order" numbers aren't customer pre-orders. Just letting you know.

so who's pre-ordering Killzone 2 if not customers ? cats

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[QUOTE="thetruespin"]Fact is - Metacritic Halo Wars: 80 Killzone 2: 92 End

Halo war is 80 only because most sites havent reviewed it.Its good and nothing more.I mean WHY would someone want a console for rts.I really dont like M$ for this one reason.They try to copy pc's too much.Yes it has jrpg's but if they didnt want to target japan it wouldnt even have those probably.There are no exclusives on 360 which truly DEFINE consoles.Games like ratchet,little big planet,
[QUOTE="thetruespin"]Fact is - Metacritic Halo Wars: 80 Killzone 2: 92 Endtoo_much_eslim
fact 4 reveiws for halo wars 40+ for KZ2. While I don't expect HW to become a AAA game. More reviews are needed for this games.

When halo wars has more than 20 reviews it wont even be AA.Quote me on this
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#87 Nike_Air
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Those "pre-order" numbers aren't customer pre-orders. Just letting you know.

then what pre order if their not customers are they from cats ?

tek91

The number was supplied by Sony , and it's their way of saying how many they sold to retailers so far - they are just orders in their minds. They did the same thing with Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. Believe me , if they actually knew they had that many customer "pre-orders" already (which they don't) , then they would be bragging that they have 3 million plus "pre-orders" to retailers already.

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#88 PSdual_wielder
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Is it just me or is it that both games aren't out yet?
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#89 tek91
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[QUOTE="tek91"]

Those "pre-order" numbers aren't customer pre-orders. Just letting you know.

then what pre order if their not customers are they from cats ?

Nike_Air

The number was supplied by Sony , and it's their way of saying how many they sold to retailers so far - they are just orders in their minds. They did the same thing with Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. Believe me , if they actually knew they had that many customer "pre-orders" already (which they don't) , then they would be bragging that they have 3 million plus "pre-orders" to retailers already.

can you show me a link to this or is this just your speculation ?

and they have been bragging David Reeves is the one telling everyone how Killzone 2 got 1.1 mil pre-orders in EU

KillZone 2 Pre-Order Millionareness

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe president David Reeves says that pre-orders Killzone 2 reached 1.1 million as of last week, according to a report from British newspaper The Guardian. As it's one of the higher-profile PlayStation 3 exclusives in some time, Killzone 2 enjoys a little extra anticipation from industry-watchers keeping close tabs on the first-person shooter's critical reception and sales performance.

http://ve3d.ign.com/articles/news/44545/KillZone-2-Pre-Order-Millionareness

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#90 Nike_Air
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You're just going to have to trust me on this one , unless you really want to believe Mr. Reeves.

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#91 tek91
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You're just going to have to trust me on this one , unless you really want to believe Mr. Reeves.

Nike_Air

I believe the one that offers links so far it's mr Reeves I don't go by speculation.

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#92 deactivated-5d25ae64ef918
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Is it just me or is it that both games aren't out yet?PSdual_wielder
Haha this is what I'm thinkin' right here.
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#93 SpinoRaptor24
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Heh. I wouldn't be surprised if Halo Wars outsold KZ2.
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#94 stricky55
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I just looked on metacritic at the halo wars scores and at the bottom it say:

The average user rating for this game is 0.8 (out of 10) based on 115 User Votes
Note: User votes are NOT included in the Metascore calculation.

0.8 jeez it must be a bad game, gotta love those user review of people who have not even played it :D

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#95 TheAnnihilation
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Those "pre-order" numbers aren't customer pre-orders. Just letting you know.

so who's pre-ordering Killzone 2 if not customers ? cats

tek91

You're one sad person if you truly believe that weeks before release, 1.1 million individuals have pre-ordered Killzone 2 in Europe, ready to purchase it very rapidly.

As usual, this means that retailers in Europe have pre-ordered these numbers.

Sony -----------> (1.1M copies) ----------->retailers ------------> (?M copies) ------------>costumers.

Sony does not know how many consumers have pre-ordered, merely retailers. Once Killzone 2 is released, we'll have knowledge of the amount of people that actually purchased Killzone 2 from these retailers in Europe.

Nevertheless, Killzone 2 won't flop in sales.

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#96 tek91
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[QUOTE="tek91"]

Those "pre-order" numbers aren't customer pre-orders. Just letting you know.

so who's pre-ordering Killzone 2 if not customers ? cats

TheAnnihilation

You're one sad person if you truly believe that weeks before release, 1.1 million individuals have pre-ordered Killzone 2 in Europe, ready to purchase it very rapidly.

As usual, this means that retailers in Europe have pre-ordered these numbers.

Sony -----------> (1.1M copies) ----------->retailers ------------> (?M copies) ------------>costumers.

Sony does not know how many consumers have pre-ordered, merely retailers. Once Killzone 2 is released, we'll have knowledge of the amount of people that actually purchased Killzone 2 from these retailers in Europe.

Nevertheless, Killzone 2 won't flop in sales.

sorry it's actual preorder people who put a down payment to buy it later on just like halo wars is on the list and resident evil 5, streetfighter Iv etc.

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#97 Syferonik
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evrything that has a HALO name in will sell and they are all great games except Halo Wars
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#98 xsubtownerx
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evrything that has a HALO name in will sell and they are all great games except Halo WarsSyferonik
Cool, man. I wish my OPINIONS were FACTS as well. :roll:
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#99 TheAnnihilation
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[QUOTE="TheAnnihilation"][QUOTE="tek91"]

Those "pre-order" numbers aren't customer pre-orders. Just letting you know.

so who's pre-ordering Killzone 2 if not customers ? cats

tek91

You're one sad person if you truly believe that weeks before release, 1.1 million individuals have pre-ordered Killzone 2 in Europe, ready to purchase it very rapidly.

As usual, this means that retailers in Europe have pre-ordered these numbers.

Sony -----------> (1.1M copies) ----------->retailers ------------> (?M copies) ------------>costumers.

Sony does not know how many consumers have pre-ordered, merely retailers. Once Killzone 2 is released, we'll have knowledge of the amount of people that actually purchased Killzone 2 from these retailers in Europe.

Nevertheless, Killzone 2 won't flop in sales.

sorry it's actual preorder people who put a down payment to buy it later on just like halo wars is on the list and resident evil 5, streetfighter Iv etc.

Sorry, dude. It's pre-orders from retailers, not from consumers.

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#100 tek91
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Sorry, dude. It's pre-orders from retailers, not from consumers.

link or it's just speculation