Gamerankings: No Game on 360 can top Uncharted 2? Best library, really?

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

[QUOTE="HavocV3"] You go and look for it - it's hardly hard. And regardless of your opinion of Halo Wars, it still meets the criteria of being exclusive and a strategy game - you didn't say anything about 'quality' or ratings.Ravensmash

Uhh actually I said "quality and variety". Go look back. I dont play unquality games and I especially am not stupid enough to play a strategy game on a console. Very sad that the lemmings have to use such a medicore title to defend "variety" of games.

all those are either not exclusive (Viva Pinata) or medicore games. Crackdown is overshadowed by InFamous and upcoming Fable is no longer exclusive. Anyway I gtg.

GAMERANKINGS SCORE Uncharted 2: Among Thieves = 96,41% Highest rated game on 360: The Orange Box = 96,19% So even though 360 had 1 year ahead of PS3, they still can't find a game that had better quality than Uncharted 2? I feel pity for lemmings Still dare to say 360 has the best library? ihsanqueen

how old are you? :|

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

Its hyped exclusives are in so many genres and all look interesting. The 360's exclusives basically stick in the FPS genre with some breaking this rule (like Kameo and Crackdown), but are both matched by other PS3 exclusives. Not to mention their age.

argetlam00

Your not listing exclusives.

Keep in mind im just posting 360 A+ REAL exclusives:

Racing - sim:

Forza2
Forza3
Race Pro

Racing - Arcade:

PGR3
PGR4
MotoGP 06

FPS:

PDZ
Halo 3
Halo 3 ODST

TPS:

GRAW
Gears 2

Survival Horror/adventure:

Alan Wake

Fighting:

DOA4

Platformer/adventure:

Kameo
Banjo Kazooie
Naruto
Naruto The Broken Bond

WRPG:

Fable 2

JRPG:

Lost Odyssey

Strategy/party:

Viva Pinata 2

Flight:

Ace Combat 6

beat em up:

Dead Rising

Sandbox/open world:

Saints Row
Crackdown

snow board:

Amped 3
Stoked

action with mechs:

Chromehounds

Other:

Namco Museum
Scene it
Scene it?

I can only see variety here!!!

Well TC you're a Cow. So it's no wonder why this topic would make no sense....

By that logic, the Wii wins the system war.

Seabas989

But bad logic like TC's makes me sad.

Metacritic please.;)

HavocV3

gamespot uses gamerankings to choose the game of the generation...

I feel bad for "cows". Now that there are better Blu-ray players on the market inflated sales will be a thing of the past. Don't believe that? Look at the pathetic software sales on the PS3. Unchated 2 is such quality YET it can't sell as much as Gears of War 2 which has score lowered on this same site. Even more pathetic is when Halo 2 has more people playing online then Uncharted 2. So either people use their PS3s as Blu-ray players only or these games suck. It's probably both now that I think about it.

yeah, I'm seeing opinions.

my problem is that 'no match' is some sort of gross exaggeration. like I said, the 360 exclusive-wise is a match for the PS3. it's not the Xbox vs. PS2.

I don't have a problem with you liking the exclusives more based on variety in the AAA range, it's easy to respect an opinion and I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

is Alan Wake a disappointment just because it hadn't met hype?

To me its becoming like Xbox vs PS2. Especially when looking at upcoming titles for both systems. Microsoft needs to get it together at E3. Oh and Alan Wake was a dissapointment cause it didn't deliver. Looked forward for it quite a while and it ended up to be nothing special.

argetlam00

I'm playing devils advocate here, as Uncharted 2 is awesome, but seriously... one game doesn't equate to a library. You cannot use ONE game in a discussion of which has the better overall library. That makes no sense.Ninja-Hippo

True.

And you might not even like Uncharted 2 (I'm playing devils advocate now) but over all the 360 really dosen't have "BETTER" a library, it just has"MORE" games.

I own a 360 and I really wanted to feel the value in it but after asking on this board what are the 5 BEST games on 360, this is what I was told...

(from xbox fans to me)All suggesting for the BEST 5 games to be found on xbox360 from 360 fans own lists....

Halo 3? 9.5 from 2007(own it...it's well below my standards for a gameto own a system forand I'll leave it at that)

Halo ODST??? 9.0 from 2009

Gears 2. 9.0 from 2008

Lost Odyssey? 7.5 from 2008(remember I said 5 best games on the system, i dont' care about scores but THIS IS THE BEST? --WFT)

PGR4. good

Dead or Alive 4??? 8.8 from 2005...

Alan Wake. only 2010 game and 8.5 (same score as Heavy Rain)

Dead Rising. 8.4 from 2006...

Crackdown. 7.8 form 2007...

Forza 3. 9.5 from 2009

Banjo: nuts n bolts. 8.5 from 2008

Naruto Rise of a Ninja. 7.5 from 2007

THAT'S IT??? These are from the BEST TOP 5 games on xbox360 from xbox fans own lists? That build alot of faith in the quality of games people hypefor xbox360.

Link: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27331522

:| Would people seriously want to match that up game for game against the PS3's redicliuosly high qualtiy exclusive library (we're talking about really good games here)

I'm not saying all those games are bad, that old games don't count or that rating are the only determing factor for quality but seriously I was asking for the 5 best games on the syetem and those were my replys. People can talk all day about how many more games 360 has over PS3 but at this point in time both PS3 and wil library put 360's to shame game wise, if I could go back in time I would a wii instead of a 360.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I'm playing devils advocate here, as Uncharted 2 is awesome, but seriously... one game doesn't equate to a library. You cannot use ONE game in a discussion of which has the better overall library. That makes no sense.hard_body79

True.

And you might not even like Uncharted 2 (I'm playing devils advocate now) but over all the 360 really dosen't have "BETTER" a library, it just has"MORE" games.

I own a 360 and I really wanted to feel the value in it but after asking on this board what are the 5 BEST games on 360, this is what I was told...

(from xbox fans to me)All suggesting for the BEST 5 games to be found on xbox360 from 360 fans own lists....

Halo 3? 9.5 from 2007(own it...it's well below my standards for a gameto own a system forand I'll leave it at that)

Halo ODST??? 9.0 from 2009

Gears 2. 9.0 from 2008

Lost Odyssey? 7.5 from 2008(remember I said 5 best games on the system, i dont' care about scores but THIS IS THE BEST? --WFT)

PGR4. good

Dead or Alive 4??? 8.8 from 2005...

Alan Wake. only 2010 game and 8.5 (same score as Heavy Rain)

Dead Rising. 8.4 from 2006...

Crackdown. 7.8 form 2007...

Forza 3. 9.5 from 2009

Banjo: nuts n bolts. 8.5 from 2008

Naruto Rise of a Ninja. 7.5 from 2007

THAT'S IT??? These are from the BEST TOP 5 games on xbox360 from xbox fans own lists? That build alot of faith in thequality ofgames people hypefor xbox360.

Link: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27331522

:| Would people seriously want to match that up game for game against the PS3's redicliuosly high qualtiy exclusive library (we're talking about really good games here)

I'm not saying all those games are bad, that old games don't count or that rating are the only determing factor for quality but seriously I was asking for the 5 best games on the syetem and those were my replys. People can talk all day about how many more games 360 has over PS3 but at this point in time both PS3 and wil library put 360's to shame game wise, if I could go back in time I would a wii instead of a 360.

You should all smash your Xbox360 games! Obviously they are inferior to Uncharted 2!!! :roll:

You should all smash your Xbox360 games! Obviously they are inferior to Uncharted 2!!! :roll:

OneLazyAsian

[QUOTE="hard_body79"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I'm playing devils advocate here, as Uncharted 2 is awesome, but seriously... one game doesn't equate to a library. You cannot use ONE game in a discussion of which has the better overall library. That makes no sense.charizard1605

True.

And you might not even like Uncharted 2 (I'm playing devils advocate now) but over all the 360 really dosen't have "BETTER" a library, it just has"MORE" games.

I own a 360 and I really wanted to feel the value in it but after asking on this board what are the 5 BEST games on 360, this is what I was told...

(from xbox fans to me)All suggesting for the BEST 5 games to be found on xbox360 from 360 fans own lists....

Halo 3? 9.5 from 2007(own it...it's well below my standards for a gameto own a system forand I'll leave it at that)

Halo ODST??? 9.0 from 2009

Gears 2. 9.0 from 2008

Lost Odyssey? 7.5 from 2008(remember I said 5 best games on the system, i dont' care about scores but THIS IS THE BEST? --WFT)

PGR4. good

Dead or Alive 4??? 8.8 from 2005...

Alan Wake. only 2010 game and 8.5 (same score as Heavy Rain)

Dead Rising. 8.4 from 2006...

Crackdown. 7.8 form 2007...

Forza 3. 9.5 from 2009

Banjo: nuts n bolts. 8.5 from 2008

Naruto Rise of a Ninja. 7.5 from 2007

THAT'S IT??? These are from the BEST TOP 5 games on xbox360 from xbox fans own lists? That build alot of faith in thequality ofgames people hypefor xbox360.

Link: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27331522

:| Would people seriously want to match that up game for game against the PS3's redicliuosly high qualtiy exclusive library (we're talking about really good games here)

I'm not saying all those games are bad, that old games don't count or that rating are the only determing factor for quality but seriously I was asking for the 5 best games on the syetem and those were my replys. People can talk all day about how many more games 360 has over PS3 but at this point in time both PS3 and wil library put 360's to shame game wise, if I could go back in time I would a wii instead of a 360.

as you can see at the end of my post I think the wii is whothy of a purchase, I don't know what you mean by win (hope you're not trying to play the numbers game like many who argue for the 360 have done) but nothing can replce the PS3 this gen, but I think has proven itself more valuable as a game macheine than my PC and 360 seem to have for great gaming. Xenogears looks too awsome.

*edit*

on a side note, I don't hate the 360 but I only really get excited for those *special* games that come out on a system that demand ownership because they are an expeirnce to play, this is how I determine value in any consoles a library even if it's just one game. With PS3 there's Demon's Souls, UC2, GOW3, HR (some say MGS4) LBP and a few more. With Wii there's SMG2, TvC, xemogears. With 360???

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="hard_body79"]

True.

And you might not even like Uncharted 2 (I'm playing devils advocate now) but over all the 360 really dosen't have "BETTER" a library, it just has"MORE" games.

I own a 360 and I really wanted to feel the value in it but after asking on this board what are the 5 BEST games on 360, this is what I was told...

(from xbox fans to me)All suggesting for the BEST 5 games to be found on xbox360 from 360 fans own lists....

Halo 3? 9.5 from 2007(own it...it's well below my standards for a gameto own a system forand I'll leave it at that)

Halo ODST??? 9.0 from 2009

Gears 2. 9.0 from 2008

Lost Odyssey? 7.5 from 2008(remember I said 5 best games on the system, i dont' care about scores but THIS IS THE BEST? --WFT)

PGR4. good

Dead or Alive 4??? 8.8 from 2005...

Alan Wake. only 2010 game and 8.5 (same score as Heavy Rain)

Dead Rising. 8.4 from 2006...

Crackdown. 7.8 form 2007...

Forza 3. 9.5 from 2009

Banjo: nuts n bolts. 8.5 from 2008

Naruto Rise of a Ninja. 7.5 from 2007

THAT'S IT??? These are from the BEST TOP 5 games on xbox360 from xbox fans own lists? That build alot of faith in thequality ofgames people hypefor xbox360.

Link: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27331522

:| Would people seriously want to match that up game for game against the PS3's redicliuosly high qualtiy exclusive library (we're talking about really good games here)

I'm not saying all those games are bad, that old games don't count or that rating are the only determing factor for quality but seriously I was asking for the 5 best games on the syetem and those were my replys. People can talk all day about how many more games 360 has over PS3 but at this point in time both PS3 and wil library put 360's to shame game wise, if I could go back in time I would a wii instead of a 360.

as you can see at the end of my post I think the wii is whothy of a purchase, I don't know what you mean by win (hope you're not trying to play the numbers game like many who argue for the 360 have done) but nothing can replce the PS3 this gen, but I think has proven itself more valuable as a game macheine than my PC and 360 seem to have for great gaming. Xenogears looks too awsome.

So the Wii and N64 > PS3 then?Stevo_the_gamer

So the Wii and N64 > PS3 then?Stevo_the_gamer

yes according to the TC's flawed logic. But I think his intention was to bash the 360 so I don't know if bringing up other comsoles helps. Anyways 1 game doesn't = library so I don't know where he was going with this argument to begin with.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I'm playing devils advocate here, as Uncharted 2 is awesome, but seriously... one game doesn't equate to a library. You cannot use ONE game in a discussion of which has the better overall library. That makes no sense.hard_body79

True.

And you might not even like Uncharted 2 (I'm playing devils advocate now) but over all the 360 really dosen't have "BETTER" a library, it just has"MORE" games.

Yeah, it does have more games. But what does it mean when it has more 7.0+ (what we regard as "good" and above) games than the PS3? Surely if it has more games rated this high, then it has the better library going by reviewers standards, no?

[QUOTE="argetlam00"]

In terms of exclusives the 360 is no match for the PS3. The 360 library has the edge as a result of all those non exclusive 360/PC games.

Ravensmash

lol TC what an absolutely ridiculous conclusion you came to.

So the Wii and N64 > PS3 then?Stevo_the_gamer

You forgot the Dreamcast for SoulCaliber. :P

In terms of exclusives the 360 is no match for the PS3. The 360 library has the edge as a result of all those non exclusive 360/PC games.

argetlam00

[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="argetlam00"]

In terms of exclusives the 360 is no match for the PS3. The 360 library has the edge as a result of all those non exclusive 360/PC games.

Aboogie5

Deadly Premonition > Uncharted 2

at leastyou can import it ;)

The Wii though does have 2 Mario games that top it.

Because one game can beat a console's entire library.

GAMERANKINGS SCORE Uncharted 2: Among Thieves = 96,41% Highest rated game on 360: The Orange Box = 96,19% So even though 360 had 1 year ahead of PS3, they still can't find a game that had better quality than Uncharted 2? I feel pity for lemmings Still dare to say 360 has the best library? ihsanqueen

[QUOTE="hard_body79"]

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"]I'm playing devils advocate here, as Uncharted 2 is awesome, but seriously... one game doesn't equate to a library. You cannot use ONE game in a discussion of which has the better overall library. That makes no sense.Anjunaddict

True.

And you might not even like Uncharted 2 (I'm playing devils advocate now) but over all the 360 really dosen't have "BETTER" a library, it just has"MORE" games.

Yeah, it does have more games. But what does it mean when it has more 7.0+ (what we regard as "good" and above) games than the PS3? Surely if it has more games rated this high, then it has the better library going by reviewers standards, no?

It means it has more medoicore games.

lol,and no, it dosen't have a better library going by reviews. If you're trying to go by one of those silly console fanboy System wars ownage arguments you can just stop.

Again when I asked xbox360 fans what were the TOP 5 BEST games on the system in their opinion, these were the responces:

the BEST 5 games to be found on xbox360 from 360 fans own lists....

Halo 3? 9.5 from 2007 (own it...it's well below my standards for a game to own a system forand I'll leave it at that)

Halo ODST??? 9.0 from 2009

Gears 2. 9.0 from 2008

Lost Odyssey? 7.5 from 2008 (remember I said 5 best games on the system, i dont' care about scores but THIS IS THE BEST? --WFT)

PGR4. good

Dead or Alive 4??? 8.8 from 2005...

Alan Wake. only 2010 game and 8.5 (same score as Heavy Rain)

Dead Rising. 8.4 from 2006...

Crackdown. 7.8 form 2007...

Forza 3. 9.5 from 2009

Banjo: nuts n bolts. 8.5 from 2008

Naruto Rise of a Ninja. 7.5 from 2007

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27331522

What xbox360 fans listed as5 BEST games on the system...100 Crackdowns will never equal a Red Dead Redimption this is why your argument fails. Do you seriously want me to do a compairson with PS3 fans Top 5 best games and see who they stack up?

Since you are of this illogical belief that adding mediocoty together somehow will evantually = greatness, tell me, how many incarnations of Enchanted Arms will it take to eventually equal the greatness of 1 Demon's Souls? 2? 10? 20? 100? lol :wink: just give me a nice solid number, I'm sure you've got all the calcualtions figured out.

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

[QUOTE="hard_body79"]

True.

And you might not even like Uncharted 2 (I'm playing devils advocate now) but over all the 360 really dosen't have "BETTER" a library, it just has"MORE" games.

hard_body79

Yeah, it does have more games. But what does it mean when it has more 7.0+ (what we regard as "good" and above) games than the PS3? Surely if it has more games rated this high, then it has the better library going by reviewers standards, no?

It means it has more medoicore games.

lol, and not it dosen't have a better library going by reviews. If you're trying to go by one of those silly fanboy console for System wars ownage arguments you can just stop.

Again when I asked xbox360 fans what were the TOP 5 BEST games on the system in their opinion, these were the responces:

the BEST 5 games to be found on xbox360 from 360 fans own lists....

Halo 3? 9.5 from 2007 (own it...it's well below my standards for a game to own a system forand I'll leave it at that)

Halo ODST??? 9.0 from 2009

Gears 2. 9.0 from 2008

Lost Odyssey? 7.5 from 2008 (remember I said 5 best games on the system, i dont' care about scores but THIS IS THE BEST? --WFT)

PGR4. good

Dead or Alive 4??? 8.8 from 2005...

Alan Wake. only 2010 game and 8.5 (same score as Heavy Rain)

Dead Rising. 8.4 from 2006...

Crackdown. 7.8 form 2007...

Forza 3. 9.5 from 2009

Banjo: nuts n bolts. 8.5 from 2008

Naruto Rise of a Ninja. 7.5 from 2007

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27331522

What xbox360 fans listed as5 BEST games on the system...100 Crackdowns will never equal a Red Dead Redimption this is why your argument fails.

Since you are of this illogical belief that adding mediocoty together somehow will evantually = greatness, tell me, how many incarnations of Enchanted Arms will it take to eventually equal the greatness of 1 Demon's Souls? 2? 10? 20? 100? lol :wink: just give me a nice solid number, I'm sure you've got all the calcualtions figured out.

By that logic, the Wii wins the system war.

Uncharted 1 + 2

Metal Gear

Killzone

Valkyria Chronicles

God of War

and the Rockstar and Bethesda multiplats

....yeah it provides superior gaming IMO, without a subscription fee, and that's without going through the other exclusives e.g Ratchet, LBP, etc. Still prefer the PC mind.

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

[QUOTE="hard_body79"]

True.

And you might not even like Uncharted 2 (I'm playing devils advocate now) but over all the 360 really dosen't have "BETTER" a library, it just has"MORE" games.

hard_body79

Yeah, it does have more games. But what does it mean when it has more 7.0+ (what we regard as "good" and above) games than the PS3? Surely if it has more games rated this high, then it has the better library going by reviewers standards, no?

It means it has more medoicore games.

lol,and no, it dosen't have a better library going by reviews. If you're trying to go by one of those silly console fanboy System wars ownage arguments you can just stop.

Again when I asked xbox360 fans what were the TOP 5 BEST games on the system in their opinion, these were the responces:

the BEST 5 games to be found on xbox360 from 360 fans own lists....

Halo 3? 9.5 from 2007 (own it...it's well below my standards for a game to own a system forand I'll leave it at that)

Halo ODST??? 9.0 from 2009

Gears 2. 9.0 from 2008

Lost Odyssey? 7.5 from 2008 (remember I said 5 best games on the system, i dont' care about scores but THIS IS THE BEST? --WFT)

PGR4. good

Dead or Alive 4??? 8.8 from 2005...

Alan Wake. only 2010 game and 8.5 (same score as Heavy Rain)

Dead Rising. 8.4 from 2006...

Crackdown. 7.8 form 2007...

Forza 3. 9.5 from 2009

Banjo: nuts n bolts. 8.5 from 2008

Naruto Rise of a Ninja. 7.5 from 2007

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27331522

What xbox360 fans listed as5 BEST games on the system...100 Crackdowns will never equal a Red Dead Redimption this is why your argument fails.

Since you are of this illogical belief that adding mediocoty together somehow will evantually = greatness, tell me, how many incarnations of Enchanted Arms will it take to eventually equal the greatness of 1 Demon's Souls? 2? 10? 20? 100? lol :wink: just give me a nice solid number, I'm sure you've got all the calcualtions figured out.

[QUOTE="hard_body79"]

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

Yeah, it does have more games. But what does it mean when it has more 7.0+ (what we regard as "good" and above) games than the PS3? Surely if it has more games rated this high, then it has the better library going by reviewers standards, no?

Ravensmash

It means it has more medoicore games.

lol,and no, it dosen't have a better library going by reviews. If you're trying to go by one of those silly console fanboy System wars ownage arguments you can just stop.

Again when I asked xbox360 fans what were the TOP 5 BEST games on the system in their opinion, these were the responces:

the BEST 5 games to be found on xbox360 from 360 fans own lists....

Halo 3? 9.5 from 2007 (own it...it's well below my standards for a game to own a system forand I'll leave it at that)

Halo ODST??? 9.0 from 2009

Gears 2. 9.0 from 2008

Lost Odyssey? 7.5 from 2008 (remember I said 5 best games on the system, i dont' care about scores but THIS IS THE BEST? --WFT)

PGR4. good

Dead or Alive 4??? 8.8 from 2005...

Alan Wake. only 2010 game and 8.5 (same score as Heavy Rain)

Dead Rising. 8.4 from 2006...

Crackdown. 7.8 form 2007...

Forza 3. 9.5 from 2009

Banjo: nuts n bolts. 8.5 from 2008

Naruto Rise of a Ninja. 7.5 from 2007

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27331522

What xbox360 fans listed as5 BEST games on the system...100 Crackdowns will never equal a Red Dead Redimption this is why your argument fails.

Since you are of this illogical belief that adding mediocoty together somehow will evantually = greatness, tell me, how many incarnations of Enchanted Arms will it take to eventually equal the greatness of 1 Demon's Souls? 2? 10? 20? 100? lol :wink: just give me a nice solid number, I'm sure you've got all the calcualtions figured out.

"I" don't need to spin anything. I owned a gaming PC before I ever bought an xbox360. I've never bought a system for a multiplatform game.

You don't have to spin ****, I played those on my PC - they were great. :|

[QUOTE="Anjunaddict"]

[QUOTE="hard_body79"]

True.

And you might not even like Uncharted 2 (I'm playing devils advocate now) but over all the 360 really dosen't have "BETTER" a library, it just has"MORE" games.

hard_body79

Yeah, it does have more games. But what does it mean when it has more 7.0+ (what we regard as "good" and above) games than the PS3? Surely if it has more games rated this high, then it has the better library going by reviewers standards, no?

It means it has more medoicore games.

lol,and no, it dosen't have a better library going by reviews. If you're trying to go by one of those silly console fanboy System wars ownage arguments you can just stop.

Again when I asked xbox360 fans what were the TOP 5 BEST games on the system in their opinion, these were the responces:

the BEST 5 games to be found on xbox360 from 360 fans own lists....

Halo 3? 9.5 from 2007 (own it...it's well below my standards for a game to own a system forand I'll leave it at that)

Halo ODST??? 9.0 from 2009

Gears 2. 9.0 from 2008

Lost Odyssey? 7.5 from 2008 (remember I said 5 best games on the system, i dont' care about scores but THIS IS THE BEST? --WFT)

PGR4. good

Dead or Alive 4??? 8.8 from 2005...

Alan Wake. only 2010 game and 8.5 (same score as Heavy Rain)

Dead Rising. 8.4 from 2006...

Crackdown. 7.8 form 2007...

Forza 3. 9.5 from 2009

Banjo: nuts n bolts. 8.5 from 2008

Naruto Rise of a Ninja. 7.5 from 2007

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=27331522

What xbox360 fans listed as5 BEST games on the system...100 Crackdowns will never equal a Red Dead Redimption this is why your argument fails. Do you seriously want me to do a compairson with PS3 fans Top 5 best games and see who they stack up?

Since you are of this illogical belief that adding mediocoty together somehow will evantually = greatness, tell me, how many incarnations of Enchanted Arms will it take to eventually equal the greatness of 1 Demon's Souls? 2? 10? 20? 100? lol :wink: just give me a nice solid number, I'm sure you've got all the calcualtions figured out.

your survey is based off of a thread with 32 posts.

Kan0nF0dder

You don't have to spin ****, I played those on my PC - they were great. :|

well to be fair, uncharted 2 is pretty awesome. should've gotten a 10 instead of mgs4 or gta 4. (those two should've had the 9.5's)