games are long enough. quit complaining

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]UC3 has an eight hour campaign. Latest game with a really short campaign. freedomfreak

And MW3 come tuesday xD

[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

Half Life 2 +Eps

Halo 1

Halo 3

Halo Reach

STALKER

all FPS games from recent memory with good pacing and fairly lengthy single players.

razgriz_101

gonna give you a complete mind blow here, why cant a "military" shooter not have a good lengthy campaign with good narrative, Rainbow Six games were lengthy 3 was good and modern and essentially military.

But why should a stigma be attatched to military FPS games because of a few in the genre, i for one would love to see a good lengthy thought out campaign from a military shooter longest so far for me has been BC2 clocking in at bout 7h long.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]UC3 has an eight hour campaign. Latest game with a really short campaign. freedomfreak

im sick of this attitude that every game needs to have a "fallout" length and the condescending attitude people have towards shorter action and adventure games.

even though a game may only have a 6 -8 hour campaign, that doesnt mean you will only play it for that long. for example, with the uncharted games, I always beat them once on normal, hard, and crushing (with uncharted 1 I went straight to hard). I also go through again to sweep up treasures and trophies. so overall that is around 20-25 hours. that is more than long enough for me to be satsified with my 60$ purchase.

thats not even taking into consideration multiplayer and co-op within these types of games and how they can extend replay value indefinitely depending on how much you enjoy it. so you could be looking at 50+ hours with these games.

regardless, lets say a game is only 6-10 hours long with no MP or co-op. will I begrudge a game for that or give it a weaker score? not if its a great 6-7 hours. i personally buy a lot of games. so, I dont need every single one of them to be a 30 hour investment of my time and i dont need a single game to last me a month.

arbitor365

You described hard reset, a game I absolutely love.

It was also 30$ (27 for pre-order) at launch, and I absolutely would not have bought it for 60.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]UC3 has an eight hour campaign. Latest game with a really short campaign. razgriz_101

And MW3 come tuesday xD

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]UC3 has an eight hour campaign. Latest game with a really short campaign. KC_Hokie

It was pretty good in the beta for me anyway it was no worse or better than most games coming out.It just isnt memorable.

games dont have to be long but short games shouldn't be worth $60. like uncharted 3 should not be a $60 game. not everyone is you, unless a campaign is interesting to me like a mass effect 2 or assassin's creed im not gonna play through it multiple timesmems_1224

by that logic GeoW3 shouldnt be a $60 title either really.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"] BF3's is shorter.razgriz_101

It was pretty good in the beta for me anyway it was no worse or better than most games coming out.It just isnt memorable.

I'm not going pay $60 for a 10 hour game, like most people. That's a ripoff. No excuses really.... Eponique

[QUOTE="AgentA-Mi6"]L.A Noire is surely taking me a long time to complete, that game is long. Action Adventure games like Uncharted, InFamous, Assassins Creed which take 8-12 hours to complete are fine by me.AmayaPapaya

How did you beat AC so fast? Can't remember how long the first one took me, but the second and BH were both evenly 24 hours.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]games dont have to be long but short games shouldn't be worth $60. like uncharted 3 should not be a $60 game. not everyone is you, unless a campaign is interesting to me like a mass effect 2 or assassin's creed im not gonna play through it multiple timesrazgriz_101

by that logic GeoW3 shouldnt be a $60 title either really.

[QUOTE="Eponique"]I'm not going pay $60 for a 10 hour game, like most people. That's a ripoff. No excuses really.... CajunShooter

Action games created 15+ years ago usually took the same or more amount of time to beat than the average 7-10 hour game these days. RPGs were just as long or longer, with games like Wizardry taking more than 100 hours to beat once.

[QUOTE="Eponique"]I'm not going pay $60 for a 10 hour game, like most people. That's a ripoff. No excuses really.... CajunShooter

Times are obviously different. Campaigns under 10 hours generally are considered too short these days.

[QUOTE="Eponique"]I'm not going pay $60 for a 10 hour game, like most people. That's a ripoff. No excuses really.... CajunShooter

It really depends on how compelling the experience is for you. If a game is really compelling, maybe a short time frame isn't going to be long enough. If a game isn't, then you'll probably want to finish it quickly.

[QUOTE="Eponique"]I'm not going pay $60 for a 10 hour game, like most people. That's a ripoff. No excuses really.... CajunShooter

We've moved on from expensive short games, so why should we go back?

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"][QUOTE="Eponique"]I'm not going pay $60 for a 10 hour game, like most people. That's a ripoff. No excuses really.... BuryMe

We've moved on from expensive short games, so why should we go back?

I thought that's what we were moving towards?

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]games dont have to be long but short games shouldn't be worth $60. like uncharted 3 should not be a $60 game. not everyone is you, unless a campaign is interesting to me like a mass effect 2 or assassin's creed im not gonna play through it multiple timesmems_1224

by that logic GeoW3 shouldnt be a $60 title either really.

yeah and UC3 has multiplayer aswell :S

And its not entirely the point either considering theres a lot of thought put into the SP campaign for a solo player like me who doesnt dabble in MP that much.

Wow isnt this whack, defending games for the lack of content now? Neato.

I mean can you imagine paying $40 ps1 games back in the day and have 40 hours of content and thats without replaying!

Now we are content with 5hours and 12 hours top for $60 games. I guess standards have changed and I do not know how to justify that.

Games that could have been beaten in 20 hours were considered short last gen.;)

Not every game has to be long, but it better be a good 7-8 hours, and have replay value afterwards (at least something that I find fun doing).

Some games are not meant to be long at all... on the top of my head the SSBB campaign was the worst nightmare I had to put up with. Thank god there was little kids that liked to play the Wii they played the campaign from time to time and beat it lol..

[QUOTE="Eponique"]I'm not going pay $60 for a 10 hour game, like most people. That's a ripoff. No excuses really.... CajunShooter

Various games this gen can be beaten in a day, lol.

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Various games this gen can be beaten in a day, lol.

tomarlyn

people are tight and want more more more. They could always just replay the game again. If they liked it so much it shouldnt be an issue. Better to have a game that doesnt drag on.campzor

its like watching that movie a 2nd time the week after your first..it just doesnt hit the spot as much.Same goes for games single player campaigns nowadays.

lul. i automatically knew this would be some sort of uncharted damage control. sure, bro. 60 bucks for a 6 hour game is totally worth it CasualMike

if that 6h is entertaining and keeps me going for a weekend it sure as hell is cheaper than a friday night out i cant remember ;P

well, tc sure is easily satisfied.

Game are not long enough. This is why I don't buy games like God of War, Uncharted, or Heavy Rain.

I've played all of those, but I haven't bought them... Why? Because there's less then 10 hours each. They are very good games, but not worth me owning because I cannot play them for what I think is worth 60 dollars.

If they're on sale, great. If a company wants me to buy new, make the games very replayable or a lot longer.

Sure you can play Uncharted 3 times, but I'm only play it once for story, and once to get all the items. I don't complain that games are too short. I just don't buy them. CoD is the only game that I buy that's short just for multiplayer.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

Various games this gen can be beaten in a day, lol.

mitu123

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"] I've rarely if ever beat any game in a week let alone a day. tomarlyn

If a publisher wants me to pay 60$ than they need to offer me an incentive, not just having a 5 hour campaign of mediocre quality that you only play through once and then they tack on some bad multiplayer. I'm sorry but that's not worth it. For 60$ I want something alon the lines that Skyrim is going to give you, hundred upon hundreds of gameplay plus endless replay value all based around amazing gameplay! That is worth 60$!

But not every game needs to be of Skyrim lenght to worth 60$, for instance take the Uncharted games or Batman games, both of those series only last about 10-12 hourson average. BUT thosecampaigns are of such high quality and are so fun and great that you'llkeep playing through them again and again, I beatBatman AA like 5 or 6 times, so if each playthrough took me about 10-12 hours than you do the math! That'sALOT ofgameplay I got out ot it! Same goes for Uncharted games, suchhigh quality that you'll play through countless times....

That's what devs need to do, either give us longer games or make the gamesso great that you'll want to replay them over and over again.

I just won't generally pay for a game that is only 6 hours long and doesn't have a lot of other substance to keep me playing it. It had better have a damn good multiplayer component to it or something. While there are exceptions I'll generally just avoid the game altogether or wait till it's dirt cheap.

The problem isn't just length, but also replayability.

But... I want 1 hour long game like in the past, where I die hundreds of times to make it 30 hours long.SaltyMeatballs

Exactly this. A 5 hour modern game has a ton more content than those old games that were just memorization tests.

Yup. Games are long enough.

I love spending 60 money units on a game that I can play through in a single day.

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] You need more time to beat games faster.

mitu123

There are several factors why I see 6-8 hours as a negative.

• A movie is about 2 hours, and the cinema costs like 15 dollars. But here is the thing, 2 hours in the movies would give me more enjoyment and a more enjoyable experience than a lot of these games.

Maroxad

Then how is length an issue for you? The obvious solution for your problem would be to make even shorter, better games, not longer ones. The entire reason why some action-oriented games 'are becoming shorter' is because of all the bells and whistles that has to come along with them, their cinematic nature influenced in no small part by -- wait for it -- cinema!

[QUOTE="CajunShooter"][QUOTE="Eponique"]I'm not going pay $60 for a 10 hour game, like most people. That's a ripoff. No excuses really.... BuryMe

We've moved on from expensive short games, so why should we go back?