games really change on a HD tv?

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

my hdtv has no problems, my eyesight is great like I said, and seriously why would I lie dude? my jaw dropped when I played uncharted on sdtv, on hdtv it was the same except now there was a massive amount of jaggies visible now. But the jaggies are only in uncharted though, other games look awesome on hdtv but seriously they arent "game changing". I think sdtv owners arent really missing much. HDTV has better picture ok but is it big enough like you guys say it is? hell no...are SDTV owners really missing much? no way. I guess you are trying to make yourself happy coz you payed so much for the tv :roll:.

Malta_1980

so you just noticed that only uncharted had jaggies on an HDTV??? seriously come on...is uncharted the only game you played on an HDTV??

its not just about jaggies, ok lets just say uncharted on hdtv had no jaggies too, the overall difference is still not huge or game changing. Its just same with just a bit more clear picture seriously why do people act like higher resolution = super mega huge difference which totally changes the games :roll:

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

my hdtv has no problems, my eyesight is great like I said, and seriously why would I lie dude? my jaw dropped when I played uncharted on sdtv, on hdtv it was the same except now there was a massive amount of jaggies visible now. But the jaggies are only in uncharted though, other games look awesome on hdtv but seriously they arent "game changing". I think sdtv owners arent really missing much. HDTV has better picture ok but is it big enough like you guys say it is? hell no...are SDTV owners really missing much? no way. I guess you are trying to make yourself happy coz you payed so much for the tv :roll:.

sikanderahmed

so you just noticed that only uncharted had jaggies on an HDTV??? seriously come on...is uncharted the only game you played on an HDTV??

its not just about jaggies, ok lets just say uncharted on hdtv had no jaggies too, the overall difference is still not huge or game changing. Its just same with just a bit more clear picture seriously why do people act like higher resolution = super mega huge difference which totally changes the games :roll:

personally it does a huge difference, because on LCD you get a much sharper image making it clear and easier to distinguish small stuff in the environment.. also on SDTV its more difficult to read through menus, subtitles etc, words are not clear..

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

so you just noticed that only uncharted had jaggies on an HDTV??? seriously come on...is uncharted the only game you played on an HDTV??

Malta_1980

its not just about jaggies, ok lets just say uncharted on hdtv had no jaggies too, the overall difference is still not huge or game changing. Its just same with just a bit more clear picture seriously why do people act like higher resolution = super mega huge difference which totally changes the games :roll:

personally it does a huge difference, because on LCD you get a much sharper image making it clear and easier to distinguish small stuff in the environment.. also on SDTV its more difficult to read through menus, subtitles etc, words are not clear..

only in some games it is harder to read text on sdtv coz they appear too small, majority of games have clear text on sdtv

hd tv of 42" samsung or sonys bravia.what brand is the best in hd tvs?

darkscorpion08

[QUOTE="darkscorpion08"]

hd tv of 42" samsung or sonys bravia.what brand is the best in hd tvs?

doobie1975

They look sharper and crisper. The biggest jump is from the 4:3 to 16:9 aspect.

I think PS3 and 360 both look great on a SDTV. If you don't have the money to get an HDTV and are holding off till you can get one with your console of choice... You really shouldn't wait.

HDTV is for the weak, SDTV is at the peakEmotronicWiiner

[QUOTE="EmotronicWiiner"]HDTV is for the weak, SDTV is at the peakdoobie1975

The difference is a big one. Play something on the PS3 or the X360 on a HDTV and then go play something on the Wii. Your eyes will bleed.

hd tv of 42" samsung or sonys bravia.what brand is the best in hd tvs?

darkscorpion08

i may be wrong, but i think only plasma's are available at the 42" size (closest lcd's to that size are 40" and 46").

samsung and sony make the best lcd's, but apparently not the best plasmas. i think pioneer and panasonic make the best plasmas, but not sure

it just looks alot sharper there's no difference in graphics. gamerdude970

In response to claims thatbrand is just a "brand tax",that's partially because retail salespeople have near-zero education on proper A/V, and partially because most stores don't carry high enough end products that it actually matters. The stuff that is on sale at your typical Best Buy, Target, or Walmart makes my eyes bleed.

Nah. But people need to justify their 1k+ purchases.loco145

[QUOTE="darkscorpion08"]

hd tv of 42" samsung or sonys bravia.what brand is the best in hd tvs?

ogvampire

i may be wrong, but i think only plasma's are available at the 42" size (closest lcd's to that size are 40" and 46").

samsung and sony make the best lcd's, but apparently not the best plasmas. i think pioneer and panasonic make the best plasmas, but not sure

Nah. But people need to justify their 1k+ purchases.loco145

What an ignorant comment. I had halo 3 on my SDTV, dismounted my SDTV when I got my HDTV and put it on that. The difference is so noticeable it's not funny.

what is the BEST HDTV right now?

what is the BEST HDTV right now?

darkscorpion08

for lcd's, its pretty much a tie between sony and samsung

for plasma's, i believe its the pioneer kuro

Why all the animosity to HDTV? How long are you guys going to hold on to your crappy standard tube tv's? Its not that expensive to upgrade to a decent hdtv these days. $500 to $800 can get you a decent set. Get with the times.

Videodogg

Nah. But people need to justify their 1k+ purchases.loco145

[QUOTE="darkscorpion08"]

what is the BEST HDTV right now?

ogvampire

for lcd's, its pretty much a tie between sony and samsung

for plasma's, i believe its the pioneer kuro

My dad just got a 42 inch plasma, Iv been playing my 360 on a 20 year old 26 inch tube TV. It was amazing how much of a difference there was between the two.

[QUOTE="loco145"]Nah. But people need to justify their 1k+ purchases.Espada12

What an ignorant comment. I had halo 3 on my SDTV, dismounted my SDTV when I got my HDTV and put it on that. The difference is so noticeable it's not funny.

It's a night and day difference.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="darkscorpion08"]

what is the BEST HDTV right now?

tmacscores91

for lcd's, its pretty much a tie between sony and samsung

for plasma's, i believe its the pioneer kuro

i wish i could afford one of those beauties. i only have a 60hz samsung 32".... its a good tv, but it aint no xbr or 9 series

[QUOTE="OhReally15"]

There will be a HUGE change. Anyone that says otherwise, is either blind, or has very, no, make that EXTREMELY poor sight. and I'm pretty sure people with that kind of vision could tell the difference.

Sd Tvs are at 640x480, HDTV is 1920x1080.

Juggernaut140

Even going from 480P to 720P will be a huge difference.

[QUOTE="darkscorpion08"]

what is the BEST HDTV right now?

ogvampire

for lcd's, its pretty much a tie between sony and samsung

for plasma's, i believe its the pioneer kuro

I like the styling better on the Samsungs. Sony has visible speakers in the front and they are ugly silver color. The Samsung TOC isn't for everyone either. Fortunately not all models have the red color.

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="darkscorpion08"]

what is the BEST HDTV right now?

tmacscores91

for lcd's, its pretty much a tie between sony and samsung

for plasma's, i believe its the pioneer kuro

I was close to buying a Samsung LED 40" but looking at it side by side to a regular Samsung LCD (a high end one LN40B650) I didn't see a difference in picture quality. The only difference was that the LED had deeper blacks but its definitely not worth the extra $700 more (mine was $1199 that one was $1899).

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="darkscorpion08"]

what is the BEST HDTV right now?

nVidiaGaMer

for lcd's, its pretty much a tie between sony and samsung

for plasma's, i believe its the pioneer kuro

I like the styling better on the Samsungs. Sony has visible speakers in the front and they are ugly silver color. The Samsung TOC isn't for everyone either. Fortunately not all models have the red color.

i prefer the samsung toc style as well. i dont mind the sony style either, but the samsung just looks more classy to me

[QUOTE="tmacscores91"][QUOTE="ogvampire"]

for lcd's, its pretty much a tie between sony and samsung

for plasma's, i believe its the pioneer kuro

nVidiaGaMer

I was close to buying a Samsung LED 40" but looking at it side by side to a regular Samsung LCD (a high end one LN40B650) I didn't see a difference in picture quality. The only difference was that the LED had deeper blacks but its definitely not worth the extra $700 more (mine was $1199 that one was $1899).

i saw a side-by-side comparison of the samsung LED to its LCD counterpart as well, but i thought that the LCD looked better. maybe its just me...

[QUOTE="ogvampire"]

[QUOTE="darkscorpion08"]

what is the BEST HDTV right now?

tmacscores91

for lcd's, its pretty much a tie between sony and samsung

for plasma's, i believe its the pioneer kuro

agree, thanks bro

Heh. Everyone's going on about HDTV utterly changing their gaming experience. Perhaps for the rest of you it does, but it wouldn't for me. Graphics are not important, as far as I'm concerned. Shiny graphics are nice, but hardly essential, I still play timesplitters 2 on my gamecube more than Gears of War for example. I like CRT sets with curvy screens in SDTV, and honestly they fit my needs just fine (Dead Rising aside, and I'm not going to buy a new TV so I can read some text, I'll print a transcript off the internet far more cheaply). Gameplay's the important thing, in my book, and I'm skeptical that better resolution is going to have much of an impact there.

I'll be a technophobic luddite for as long as I damn well please :P

Heh. Everyone's going on about HDTV utterly changing their gaming experience. Perhaps for the rest of you it does, but it wouldn't for me. Graphics are not important, as far as I'm concerned. Shiny graphics are nice, but hardly essential, I still play timesplitters 2 on my gamecube more than Gears of War for example. I like CRT sets with curvy screens in SDTV, and honestly they fit my needs just fine (Dead Rising aside, and I'm not going to buy a new TV so I can read some text, I'll print a transcript off the internet far more cheaply). Gameplay's the important thing, in my book, and I'm skeptical that better resolution is going to have much of an impact there.

I'll be a technophobic luddite for as long as I damn well please :P

_glatisant_

Thats fine for you I guess, but I can't go back to SDTV. Heck, I can't watch sports in anything other than HD anymore. The first time I could see the net behind the goal posts in perfect lifelike detail, I was sold.

Some of these people saying they can't see the difference are flat out lying though. If you can't afford one, just say that.

now im thinking that the jump from sd to hds are the same as the technological advance from dvd to blu ray

games really change graphically on HDtvs? (i have a SD tv)

darkscorpion08

[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]

[QUOTE="tmacscores91"] Agreed, most techies will tell you, the new XBR's and the new Samsung LED TV's are the top of the lineogvampire

I was close to buying a Samsung LED 40" but looking at it side by side to a regular Samsung LCD (a high end one LN40B650) I didn't see a difference in picture quality. The only difference was that the LED had deeper blacks but its definitely not worth the extra $700 more (mine was $1199 that one was $1899).

i saw a side-by-side comparison of the samsung LED to its LCD counterpart as well, but i thought that the LCD looked better. maybe its just me...

LCD? or LED? Which one did you think looks better? I think you made a typo. :P But the LED does have some flaws still like bluish blacks sometimes and a less uniform screen then the regular LCDs.

It depends on the size of the HDTV. On a smaller HDTV, the difference is definitely noticable, but not massive. On a large HDTV, the different is pretty damn large. I personally have a smaller HDTV and I've noticed that colors do seem more vivid and there's more overall clarity, so in-game text is easier to read, etc. The only downside is that many games (even games that are seen as being very strong visually) become jaggy fests.

Yeah, its way sharper that SDenterawesome

now i saw my grand theft auto 4 ps3 game in an SD tv an i cant see the icons there, but ive played now in a HDTV and i can see the icons now, bro its look really sharper

that's ghetto fab. why buy an HD console if you don't have an HD set? you're a moron if you buy a 400$ console to use on a 100$ tv from the 1990s. but it doesn't surprise me. that's like the dudes that buy 10,000$ rims to put on a 2,000$ car.

primitive013

Thats not entirely true. What if you get a HD console just to play the games and don't care about the graphics. If you sit far enough away from a SD tv it still looks good (nothing compared to HD though).

Hence why I said Dead Rising for an example. ArisShadows

Nah. But people need to justify their 1k+ purchases.loco145

I used to wonder the same thing, having played my 360 on a 32" SDTV for the past 2 years. Then I picked up a 21.5" Widescreen LCD for my PC, which has 1080p resolution (1920x1080). As a nivce bonus it has an HDMI input allowing me to share it with my 360. And let me tell you, the difference is startling. The picture quality gets this substantial jump in clarity and fidelity, making the overall visuals so much easier on the eyes. Everything just POPs, it's all sharper and cleaner.

I guess you really have to see it with your own eyes to understand. I know my 21.5" display is so much better than the bigger standard screen, I'll never go back :)

Oh and in line with Fox's post above, my LCD only cost me $200 CDN, which is doubled the value for it's dual usage with my PC and console. No extra cables needed as my 360 already had the HDMI.